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  1. #8003
    Quote Originally Posted by cucumber  [View Original Post]
    . i found the girls in hotel travel and hotel classic very beautiful. .

    but that is as long as you don't require tall girls, which there not that many of. most have firm breasts, tight young bodies, pretty faces.

    the rooms are clean and well kept, but have no windows. each has a shower cubicle with a glass wall. it is a delight to watch a sexy young thing through the glass as she soaps her self in, sticks a couple of fingers up her pussy for a thorough wash, perhaps squats and [CodeWord133]. fine art as far as i am concerned.

    a nice thing i enjoyed both in the hotel classic and travel and stadium is that you pass by small crews of cleaners and managers going about their work in the maze of corridors. all in uniforms, some fat or old, but some young, plain but attractive. sometimes they would flirt, say you have a nice nose or something (seems indos have a thing about white noses, nothing special about mine). i tried to hit on a couple of them. no success, but it did not seem impossible. and after all i was on my way to fuck a very beautiful 20-year old, so leeway was limited.

    i used the services of jakartaafterdark. com. it was helpful to have him along, especially in hotel classic and and travel, which can be challenging to negotiate without bahasa.
    i enjoyed your excellent, well-written report and wanted to comment on some of your points:

    - yes, there are usually very few tall girls, as the average javanese girl appears to be 4' 10" to 5 feet tall. and while most have small to medium, sized breasts, their breasts are definitely nice and firm until they have a child.

    - loved the image of watching the girl take a shower, brings back great memories.

    - if you saw an attractive female cleaner / manager / employee in either place and wanted to hit on her, give her your cell phone number and its a guarantee that she'll call you later for a rendevous after her shift is over.

    - glad to read that you used jad (jakarata after dark). money well spent for any visitor on a tight schedule.

  2. #8002

    Best place in town?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion, that's a pretty good description of a standard experience at Hotel Travel.
    Just spent five hours in Hotel Classic, had four girls. It was better than last night in Hotel Travel. All girls were ok in bed, one gave great GFE and one was not so expert, but 18, a little shy and quite curious with a body that was so perfect it was surreal, in spite of tattoos (which are not my taste). All except one did BBBJ, all we happy or very happy about DATY. The mamasan's were not so pushy, some of them let me do a little interviewing. All the girls had listerine for mutual mouth rincing before action. Which I think is a good idea for someone with my (or their) turnover rate if you don't want to come down with the flu or something worse.

    But if Travel sucks, what is the best knock shop in town then?

  3. #8001
    Quote Originally Posted by Cucumber  [View Original Post]
    On one of the nights I choose a girl in Hotel Travel, she asked whether I wanted her friend to join, for a total of 475 000 rupiah (USD 40, not bad eh). I was very in doubt, I have hardly ever enjoyed a threesome. But in the end I let her invite her friend over so I could have a look. Man was she gorgeous. I almost wanted to exchange the first girl for the second, but in the end I gave in to the threesome proposition. I tried to clear all details in advance, cunnilingus, kissing, be loving, but it was difficult without much language. And Indos always say yes-yes with a smile no matter what. It was a big mistake. The girls were ice cold. They talked continuously among themselves. They checked their mobile phones. Blowjob was only covered. They wanted me to fuck only one of them (I ultimately managed to get the other one too, but both were starfish). I tried to get one to sandwich me while I fucked her friend, but she couldn't / wouldn't really understand what I wanted. They used disinfectant napkins to disinfect my nipples before sucking them (!). I tried many times to say, both before cutting the deal and as things spiralled downwards in the room that I would tip if they treated me nice, not tip if not."Yes-yes." Then in the end I cut it off after about 30 minutes, put on my clothes and got out. They were very upset. They half tried to hold back the bracelet with my number, which you need to get out of the complex again. I know from other girls that they only get 80 rupiah out of the 325 (when you have one girl) , so they are totally dependent on the tip. I would not have insisted on the BBBJ since it does have a medical rationale, but the total disrespect, lack of even a little massage or anything kind of friendliness etc. Was unreasonable.
    In my opinion, that's a pretty good description of a standard experience at Hotel Travel. The girls are young and good looking, but they are indifferent once they get in the room. Of all the knock shops in town, I think that place almost without fail has the girls who provide the worst service in Jakarta. It's an indication that management there does not train the girls well. And it's not because of the "language barrier", I speak Indonesian and still find the service there to be crap. Between the bad service from the girls and the local Indonesian guys there singing karaoke poorly at a loud volume in the main room, I find Hotel Travel to be a place to be avoided.

  4. #8000

    Seconding Juggernutt, plus report on Jakarta first time

    Quote Originally Posted by juggernutt  [View Original Post]
    just back frm my trip to jakarta. finally i am almost able to put everything together about the nightlife in jakarta.

    quite incredible all the different styles for getting pussy in jakarta. seems for each ethnic group there is something available. the girls, the places but also the atmosphere changes. incredible. |anyway i will try to update and string a few reports together. i truly enjoyed jakarta and would like to share it here. the good, the bad, but also the oh so beautifull.
    thanks for the detailed report juggernutt. i am totally new to jakarta, and just had my two first nights here. i had very similar experiences to you, with many of the same places, although i have not covered as much ground as you have in terms of different places. perhaps i went deeper in each location. i will try to give some added value to your report.

    on my choice and experience of hotel, see the relevant section.

    i found the girls in hotel travel and hotel classic very beautiful. a big selection of girls, perhaps 60-200 girls at each place. difficult to say exactly because it varies over time and some of the girls are busy servicing clients. it seems it is best to arrive early, by 24:00 there are few girls available and the those who are are either unattractive or tired. the whole setup is a bit strange and potentially frustrating for a non-bahasa speaker. you cannot talk to the girls to interview them. if you try walking up and down along the rows of couches to try to look at them, they will not communicate in any with with smiles or eyes. this must be some kind of rule, because it does not necessarily mean that they will be as cold in bed. some will be great, some very cold, but because there is no prior communication is is very difficult to predict. if you walk up and down too much, the pushy mamasans will order you to sit down. then they may bring you girls, but it may take a while and it is very hit and miss.

    1 hour costs 325 000 indonesian rupiah (ca 27 usd). so it is cheap, and their are many very pretty girls there. very many seem to be about 20-21 years old. i would say mostly in the 6-9 range, with 30-40 % 8s. but that is as long as you don't require tall girls, which there not that many of. most have firm breasts, tight young bodies, pretty faces.

    when you choose a girl, you first have to wait while they register the number on the bracelet that you got when you entered. then the girl takes you off into a maze of corridors with little hotel-like rooms. the rooms are clean and well kept, but have no windows. each has a shower cubicle with a glass wall. it is a delight to watch a sexy young thing through the glass as she soaps her self in, sticks a couple of fingers up her pussy for a thorough wash, perhaps squats and [CodeWord133]. fine art as far as i am concerned. a nice thing i enjoyed both in the hotel classic and travel and stadium is that you pass by small crews of cleaners and managers going about their work in the maze of corridors. all in uniforms, some fat or old, but some young, plain but attractive. sometimes they would flirt, say you have a nice nose or something (seems indos have a thing about white noses, nothing special about mine). i tried to hit on a couple of them. no success, but it did not seem impossible. and after all i was on my way to fuck a very beautiful 20-year old, so leeway was limited.

    on one of the nights i choose a girl in hotel travel, she asked whether i wanted her friend to join, for a total of 475 000 rupiah (usd 40, not bad eh). i was very in doubt, i have hardly ever enjoyed a threesome. but in the end i let her invite her friend over so i could have a look. man was she gorgeous. i almost wanted to exchange the first girl for the second, but in the end i gave in to the threesome proposition. i tried to clear all details in advance, cunnilingus, kissing, be loving, but it was difficult without much language. and indos always say yes-yes with a smile no matter what. it was a big mistake. the girls were ice cold. they talked continuously among themselves. they checked their mobile phones. blowjob was only covered. they wanted me to fuck only one of them (i ultimately managed to get the other one too, but both were starfish). i tried to get one to sandwich me while i fucked her friend, but she couldn't / wouldn't really understand what i wanted. they used disinfectant napkins to disinfect my nipples before sucking them (!). i tried many times to say, both before cutting the deal and as things spiralled downwards in the room that i would tip if they treated me nice, not tip if not."yes-yes." then in the end i cut it off after about 30 minutes, put on my clothes and got out. they were very upset. they half tried to hold back the bracelet with my number, which you need to get out of the complex again. i know from other girls that they only get 80 rupiah out of the 325 (when you have one girl) , so they are totally dependent on the tip. i would not have insisted on the bbbj since it does have a medical rationale, but the total disrespect, lack of even a little massage or anything kind of friendliness etc. was unreasonable.

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    to start off with, stadium is not the kind of place i like. it is a multi-floor disco, the music is loud hardcore house. when you walk into the biggest hall on the fourth floor, the male to female-ratio may be about 5-1 (?). there seem to be a lot of regular couples on a night out. you have to pay 100 000 rupiah to get in, at least some times of the night. however. i had two very, very pleasant experiences in there. when you enter the fourth floor, on each side there are two little nooks where pros sit. they have mamasans like in hotels classic and travel. the mamasans are also pushy, but because it is a freer setup up it is more pleasant to deal with. the girls sometime mill about a bit, and they may smile back or wave at you, so there is some communication. you can interview the girls a bit, though the loud music doesn't help. the girls on average seem to speak a little more english than in classic and travel, but not much. anyway, in this chaotic dark mess not to my liking i happened across to gems, one of whom just blew my mind last night. she calls her selv beibi, and she looks like it. i double-checked her i'd and she was 19, but she certainly didn't look it. although i would not know how to spot a fake i'd, in a fully controlled place like that the management would check that to avoid trouble, especially with someone with her looks. and her skills in bed were very impressive, real gfe.

    -

    both in classic, travel and stadium i found that an interesting strategy would be to hang out around the entrances to the mazes of rooms where the girls take customers for service. the prettiest girls get chosen most often, and this is very obvious if you hang out there and monitor them when they come and go. some of the customers are regulars, and they may repeat good girls, so perhaps the girls you see there tend towards better service too. so you get the creme de la creme (pun intended, i sometimes enjoy the sluttiness of fucking a girl who has just been fucked). so a strategy is to stand there, and catch the goldfish as they come out after finishing with another customer. in the centralized command economy of classic and travel this is almost the only place where you can also interview the girl freely: the mamasan is not there, so the girl can easily take 3 minutes to chat, there is no loud music and it is much easier to get a feel for how keen the girl is to go with you, how she will behave towards you, whether she will enjoy your award-wining daty and so on. some of them come over as positively friendly.

    -

    on blok m i totally concur with juggernutt's description of blok m bars, he renders the atmosphere well. these are grungy, rock'and roll joints. its a dingy street with low housing (not a mall or something as i expected). in d's place there are mostly expats. the girls are old, not attractive. i would only potentially disagree on the vip room. i thought it was kind of cool. a small, dark rough room with its own little bar. 10-15 people and great if you want to watch or be watched. some are drunk, you can see they are having fun, crossing boundaries. i have little experience of this kind of thing, but would have loved to try. only problem is i did not find the girls attractive enough. i do wonder whether one could find a girl across the street and bring her there.

    in the bar across the street i found (was found by?) a 21 year old who looked totally like a student (dress, hairdo). not that beautiful, but perfectly ok. she asked for a million, negotiated quickly down to 700 000. it was getting late and i was getting tired so i wanted to close the deal quickly and did not try to pull her price further down. she came back to my hotel a half hour drive up north and gave me a total gfe: groping in the car, clinging to me as we walked into the hotel room, dfk all the way, genuine orgasm on daty, bbbj, sopping wet, hugging and curling up. she was also open to, perhaps even keen on, fucking bareback, which is very frightening but also pleasing as a compliment. she wants you, for real. i gave her a long loving lecture on never to do that. please don't do it guys, for your own sake, their sake and our sake. people who fuck bareback destroy prostitution. and people's lives. sorry to lecture, but this is important.

    -

    in case it is of any help, i include the addresses of the establishments here. i found it could be hit and miss whether taxis knew the names of the joints (although always "yes-yes", and the most convenient thing was to have the addresses on a slip of paper or in your mobile phone.

    - hotel classic (terminal) , jalan smanhudi 43-45.

    - hotel travel, jalan mangga besar viii / 21.

    - blok m, jalan faletehan

    i used the services of jakartaafterdark. com. it was helpful to have him along, especially in hotel classic and and travel, which can be challenging to negotiate without bahasa.

  5. #7999
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77  [View Original Post]
    The other point about the safety of free-lance Blok girls versus indentured-slave girls in the meat markets up north worth bearing in mind is the health factor. The girls in the knocking shops are checked and condoms are mandatory, heck they're even using them for BJ's now. So you have a modicum of assurance that the performance, whilst perfunctory and mechanical, will be relatively bug-free (although of course all these things are relative).

    You'll have more fun with a Blok girl but given their predilection to go bareback the risk of nasty little surprises a few days later is so much higher.
    I notice that the girls from the knock shops up north go back to their kampungs for "istirihat" frequently these days. Supposedly they do that when they catch a dose of something and take antibiotics until they are ok. Without a doubt, those girls bareback 90% of their customers (at least the local customers) , so we shouldn't kid ourselves thinking they don't. They use condoms with the foreigners more often. But when a local comes in, that condom normally sits on the bedside table while they screw. They didn't used to get sick so frequently, but lately it seems like they are getting sick more and more often.

  6. #7998

    Only a misconception

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77  [View Original Post]
    The girls in the knocking shops are checked and condoms are mandatory, heck they're even using them for BJ's now. So you have a modicum of assurance that the performance, whilst perfunctory and mechanical, will be relatively bug-free (although of course all these things are relative).

    You'll have more fun with a Blok girl but given their predilection to go bareback the risk of nasty little surprises a few days later is so much higher.
    As with all things in Indonesia the outside is very different from the reality inside. The so-called health checks they do in Kota knockshops is basically a doctor coming in every week doing a practical vagina and pregnancy inspection. They give them a big oral dose of antibiotic anyway (as a supplement). No real actual blood tests and even if they are discovered to have something they keep her working to clear the debt.

    Next I would say 99% by default won't use a condom for BJ. For the FS the figure drops to 50% but then wave 2 pink notes and it is guaranteed to fuck without the condom. As for expensive imports make it 5 pink notes then it's a guarantee also.

    It's a buyers market and we can control the fuck. The only other SEA country with the same ease getting bareback is the Philippines.

  7. #7997
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I have a friend who hired a Blok M bar girl as his maid. He had sex with her on a regular basis and she also worked as his maid. So she had a key to his place. He said he made it clear to her that she was not his girlfriend, that their relationship was strictly business. According to him, it worked out well, until he found out that she was using his apartment as a brothel when he was away and shagging other guys from his apartment building in his bed for money while he was at work.
    Haha, brilliant you can't beat the Blok girls for their initiative can you?

    The other point about the safety of free-lance Blok girls versus indentured-slave girls in the meat markets up north worth bearing in mind is the health factor. The girls in the knocking shops are checked and condoms are mandatory, heck they're even using them for BJ's now. So you have a modicum of assurance that the performance, whilst perfunctory and mechanical, will be relatively bug-free (although of course all these things are relative).

    You'll have more fun with a Blok girl but given their predilection to go bareback the risk of nasty little surprises a few days later is so much higher.

  8. #7996
    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernutt  [View Original Post]
    About fucking maids. I hear it happens alot. Expat guys with maids / nannies. LMAO. To much smoke not to be a fire somewhere. Any expats here know these thing happening?
    Yup, I did it. A slim, cute 22-year-old house-keeper / nanny / fantastic cock sucker from a village in Central Java.

    Lousy idea.

    Lousy idea.

    Lousy idea.

    Did I mention it's a lousy idea?

  9. #7995
    Interesting posts.

    On hiring a fucktoy for the office. Why bother. Unless you just one to be cheap and use the company money to pay for your little toy. Interesting concept. I guess hiring a special secretary. But it would be known quite fast. Messing up your reputation. Best bet if you have the money. Get a grilfriend. Instead of slary. Take her out, buy her stuff. Shoudl be enough.

    About fucking maids. I hear it happens alot. Expat guys with maids / nannies or expat woman with the driver / gardener. LMAO. To much smoke not to be a fire somewhere. Any expats here know these thing happening?

    But hiring maids with the idea of fucking them too. TBH one of my dirty fantasies.

  10. #7994
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77  [View Original Post]
    Of all the dumb ideas that everyone in Jakarta always thinks about, the dumbest is screwing with your maid. Quite apart from the fact that a good maid is worth her weight in gold but cheap fcuks are a dime a dozen, why would you bother? You've just changed the entire relationship from a position of a nice, passive, friendly woman who cooks your food, cleans your toilet, washes your socks and clears up the mess you left behind the night before when you came home with three dolly-birds you picked up in Blok M and does this all with a smile and not a word of complaint, to a sullen, resentful, jealous, clingy, whining woman who reckons she is someone special and thinks being a maid is now beneath her.

    Absolutely insane idea in a town where there are available women willing to cater to your every sexual need and better yet they go home and leave you in peace when you've had enough.

    Crazy, crazy.
    I have a friend who hired a Blok M bar girl as his maid. He had sex with her on a regular basis and she also worked as his maid. So she had a key to his place. He said he made it clear to her that she was not his girlfriend, that their relationship was strictly business. According to him, it worked out well, until he found out that she was using his apartment as a brothel when he was away and shagging other guys from his apartment building in his bed for money while he was at work.

  11. #7993
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo Two  [View Original Post]
    Funny, but I haven't heard that many stories of guys being ripped off by FLs from Top Gun. God knows, some of them have had plenty of chances at my place over the years, but I don't think I've ever had one steal from my wallet, which is often just sitting there in the pocket of some carelessly strewn jeans. Maybe it's because most of them are regulars, or looking for regular clients, or want to keep on coming to Top Gun. In theory, I understand your concerns, but in practice, I don't think there's a lot to be worried about. Probably best to keep valuable stuff in a locked room or a room safe or something like that, just on general principles.
    I've never had any rip me off. However, I used to take a certain TG girl home a lot. She's one of the better looking girls at TG and has been there about 5 years now. I'd guess she's about 23 years old now. I never had any problem at all with her. But a forum member here said that he took her and one of her friends once and they ripped him off. It may be more dangerous taking them in pairs than one at a time. Just don't take a shower alone and leave the girls to rummage through your things!

    I remember a girl named Siti who ripped off a guy's handphone years ago. The guy reported her to TG and she was blacklisted from the blok after that. The security must be pretty good there because they did not allow her back in for years. I saw her at Hotel Aryaduta a couple of years later and she told me she still wasn't allowed on the Blok.

    So it does happen on occasion, but I agree that it's rare.

  12. #7992
    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernutt  [View Original Post]
    Downside is ofcourse that these girls aren't controlled. I am not sure how effective the socalled medical checkups are, but I am thinking more of the safety side. The kota girls are heavily controlled for the place where they work. As customer you don't have much to worry about with regard to safety.
    Funny, but I haven't heard that many stories of guys being ripped off by FLs from Top Gun. God knows, some of them have had plenty of chances at my place over the years, but I don't think I've ever had one steal from my wallet, which is often just sitting there in the pocket of some carelessly strewn jeans. Maybe it's because most of them are regulars, or looking for regular clients, or want to keep on coming to Top Gun. In theory, I understand your concerns, but in practice, I don't think there's a lot to be worried about. Probably best to keep valuable stuff in a locked room or a room safe or something like that, just on general principles.

  13. #7991
    as a local, i would say that it's a bad idea. i am agree with timtimguy opinion to separate between housekepeer and girlfriend.

    you don't want to deal with her family if something happened.

    well, if you can do that in sanghai, that's really good. but i think there would more problems here.

  14. #7990
    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyTheBest  [View Original Post]
    My question is, is it possible to get this in Jakarta? If so, how do I do this? In Shanghai, believe it or not, I just advertised online and hot girls emailed their photos and professional bios. I just held interviews at a GF friendly hotel. I paid the girls for the interviews and few of them got pretty raunchy. Ah, those interviews were a gentleman's delight.

    Look forward to your responses.

    Thanks,

    Ric
    Of all the dumb ideas that everyone in Jakarta always thinks about, the dumbest is screwing with your maid. Quite apart from the fact that a good maid is worth her weight in gold but cheap fcuks are a dime a dozen, why would you bother? You've just changed the entire relationship from a position of a nice, passive, friendly woman who cooks your food, cleans your toilet, washes your socks and clears up the mess you left behind the night before when you came home with three dolly-birds you picked up in Blok M and does this all with a smile and not a word of complaint, to a sullen, resentful, jealous, clingy, whining woman who reckons she is someone special and thinks being a maid is now beneath her.

    Absolutely insane idea in a town where there are available women willing to cater to your every sexual need and better yet they go home and leave you in peace when you've had enough.

    Crazy, crazy.

  15. #7989

    Report south jakarta

    Just back frm my trip to jakarta. Finally I am almost able to put everything together about the nightlife in Jakarta.

    Quite incredible all the different styles for getting pussy in Jakarta. Seems for each ethnic group there is something available. The girls, the places but also the atmosphere changes. Incredible. |Anyway I will try to update and string a few reports together. I truly enjoyed jakarta and would like to share it here. The good, the bad, but also the oh so beautifull.

    I will start with the south jakarta nightlife. For the first time I was able to enjoy the Blok M nightlife. Sadly no luck connecting with the chicks in blok M plaza like Pete described. But maybe more than a quick afternoon recon is needed.

    We tried enjoying little tokyo. Being asian with what people call a japanese look, got plenty of attention. It was definitely not like walking in tokyo. Anyway can't remember the many girls calling you to enter the establishment. Seems more Bangkok than Jakarta or tokyo. All in japanese by gorgeous girls. Quite an experience. You feel like a star. I guess we just do like the japanese there. Wak with a stone face. Heheh.

    All these places are karaokes. A few places we entered had a fishbowl. Surprising how some girls look so japanese. Was not my cup of tea. To much chemically whitened faces. Some quite cute. But I don't dare to try it out. I don't like Karaoke, girls not my taste and scared of the cost. Quite funny when they realise we can speak bahasa. And start to shout out that we can speak bahasa. LOL. Quite interesting.

    Suprisingly what I truly enjoyed was Jalan Faletehan. Possibly the street with the sleasiest reputation in Jakarta. It was absolutely not done to say that you go or have been there. Bit hypocrite because when you say you go to Kota it's ok. Seems this street is only known for being a RLD. But that's not true. I think it's bad reputation is due to it being a low level bule hunting ground. And NEVER EVER ask a "good" local girl to go there. It will blow any chance you have.

    Back to the street. 3 places comes to mind.

    1) Sportsman bar. What an awesome sportsbar. Really really nice. All the sports you want to see. They have everything recorde so you can ask to see a game. Nots ure how good the food is. But I really liked iit. No pro's inside. To be honest I won't think this place was situated in a RLD at all. The waitresses were nice, if a bit pushy. But definitely for take away looks wise. To Bad. This place is just begging for a hooters makeover. But I guess good girls don; t want to come here and semi pros are hard to get to work as waitresses. Great place to start the night.

    2) Along the side of sportsmans bar are a bunch of other bars. When I was there. These were all quite empty and sad. The only happening place is I think D's place. A want to be stripbar. Seems like a cross between a NYC stripjoint and a Soi cowboy joint. Somehow I forgot if the girls went topless. I don't think so. (titty overload. How can I forget). There was plent of freelancers. Not that great qualitywise. And the dancers were all bookable. It was suggested that they join you to VIP room. I was quaoted some prices that was simply crazy high. I guess 300k for HJ and it goes up from there.

    Dancers are all youngish girls and better looking than the freelancers here. The VIP room was a small dark bar. Breminds me to much of the NYC stripjoint where the chicks will suck you dry of money in these places. Thanks. But not for me.

    3) The last place has turned out to be my favourite spot. It's top Gun. I bet alot of people here were there too. The vibe here is totally different / All the girls seems to be / act like freelancers. But I think there is a mama san too. One night a girl didn't want to go. But was finally convinced toa gree. Didn't look like FL to me.

    Quality of girls are quite diverse. A couple of real lookers here. I believe a few has graced this website because they look so familiar to me. I fished here a real nice FLer. Seems a semi pro. 18 year old. Just doing her steps in this way of life. But as a favor I gave her away. Regrets. A bit. Could have been quite a gem.

    But this was the result if two nights hanging out here. Quite alot with my busy schedule. But I just love the atmosphere and the live music here. It was really really good. Alot of guest singers. But it was great fun and quite enjoyable. Starting a little after midnight. Once the music starts. The place really starts to rock. Real nice.

    I can understand why this place is so popular with the expats. It seems like a regular western bar, but becase it's indonesia. A big chance to score. If your wallet is thick enough. I like it. But to be honest the girls here are a bit lower level than the more upscale bars. But I still enjoyed the atmosphere and the life music alot.

    Sadly during the two nights here. Haven't talked prices with any of the girls. So hopefully more experienced people can explain what the damage would be. For it's quite sure I will be back. IF only to enjoy the life music.

    Also an observation from me. These girls have a very bad reputation. And like my local friends use to say. All the chicks are basically interchangeble. They are correct.

    But one positive to these freelancers compared with the girls in Kota. Usage rate. I think the girls here are not so heavily used as those in Kota. Tking one or maybe 2 customers a night. The ones in Kota do 5/6 a night. Something to consider.

    Downside is ofcourse that these girls aren't controlled. I am not sure how effective the socalled medical checkups are, but I am thinking more of the safety side. The kota girls are heavily controlled for the place where they work. As customer you don't have much to worry about with regard to safety.

    Anyway this was at the end of my stay in jakarta. But I was pleasantly suprised with Blok M. A lot of fun. Quite interesting.

    I went to Red Square in Plaza Senayan during the week. Famous for being full of chickens. But when we went there it was dead on a Wednesday night. So we went to the Domain at Senayan City. This place was packed. A favourite for the University students and well to do locals. Really happening. No real dance floor, but people just standing around drinking and dancing a bit. Plenty of drunk chicks. Quite awesome again for a Wednesday night. No bules and not many Chinese. X2 the famous nightclub is dead during weekdays. If you have succes with a crowd like this. Go for it.

    I haven't been to Kemang alot. Something for next year. Eastern promises was a cool dutch oriented sportsbar. Some chickens here. A bit of a cross between sportsman and topgun. But not so ranchy or seedy.

    At Grand wijaya right next to Darmawangsa Square there are located quite a few famous spa and massage places. Like Fortuner and Delta Spa. My plan to go there in early afternoon was blocked. I was only able to enjoy the wonderful facilities of the Fortune Spa Facilities. But had to cut short the visit before I can try the massages.

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