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09-13-14 22:01 #40
Posts: 734Yeah, I had one guy cry when I helped him out. Tells you how tough he was in.
It is shitty to be old in Cuba. Pension of $6 per month does not go far. At least the ones selling shit are trying and you got to help out those who are at least trying.
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08-25-14 23:29 #39
Posts: 77Originally Posted by BeersTerry [View Original Post]
I never buy drinks for anyone. Occasionally I may buy a beer or one of those 1 CUC boxed rums for a Cuban "fren" but that's extremely rare. The only Cubans that I routinely help a little are the old men and women I see selling popcorn, candies, etc now and then. I see the same ones year after year as I'm sure you do as well Terry.
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08-25-14 17:08 #38
Posts: 734You have no friends in Cuba. You have some "frens'.
You lose your frens when the money runs out.
There is always a gringo price and there is always a cut being made off you from your frens be it that you are buying them Cuba libres (what non jinetero Cuban do you know that drinks Cuba Libre). They are getting a $1 cut from the bartender.
As a tourist, you are a walking ATM for them.
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08-25-14 15:18 #37
Posts: 3700Guard up
Taboc and Vedadofun make excellent points. I posted a few months ago about where I met the casa owners niece and she became a regular. I arrived in Cuba last week and decided to stay at a new casa in a new area because I like to experience new things and keep the old things for later. Plus I don't like being predictable. The old casa owner asked for a blood pressure monitor so I purchased one in the States to take to him. Well I went to the older casa and the owner wasn't there but his wife was and it wasn't his wife from the last trip. I asked about the niece but the new wife wasn't helpful at all so I left.
I happened to see a girl from my first trip and we hit the new casa and had sex. I gave her 30 cuc and said come back later and we will hangout and she could spend the night and I would have more money for her. She completely fucked that up by asking for money to buy clothes to wear that evening. She gave me an ultimatum to either give her clothes money or she wasn't coming back. Needless to say I never called or saw her for the rest of my trip. I went to the other casa hoping to locate the niece but the wife wasn't helping me. As I left the first wife walked up and gave me a hug. She went in the casa and made three phone calls and the niece was on the way. The two wives didn't like each other and argued over the 15 cuc I left for the nieces private car. I would later find out from the niece the she caught the bus for 1 cuc.
When I went to meet the niece she was at a restaurant with the first wife and some new dude. We had drinks and they grabbed a menu and lights went off in my head. My 40 cuc drinking bill was about to become 80 cuc if I don't put the brakes on, which I did. I paid the 40 cuc drinking bill but I was pissed that the niece was willing to let them milk me dry. At the casa I explained to the niece that I have money for her not her friends. We spent the next two days having sex and I gave her 70 cuc and sent her home. I really wanted to give her more but I was still pissed.
Later that night I'm sitting alone at an outdoor bar drinking mojitoes when the first wife and the guy walk up. They sit and talk but I never offer them anything. They would run inside to the bar every few minutes. I'm ready to pay 9 cuc for my three mojitoes when the waiter hands me a bill for 21 cuc. I said WTF. I explained to him I had 3 mojitoes and not the four Cuba libres added to the bill. He calls the wife over and she agrees to pay. I smiled a fake smile hugged the wife and left. I understand times are hard in Cuba but they go over board with some of the bullshit.
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08-25-14 01:03 #36
Posts: 142See the things are not straight forward in Cuba and I do get upset when someone there whom I consider a friend is not honest, but do not hate that person for simple reason, I would do the same if I were in their place. We are visitors, even if we go there 3-4 times a year we are still visitors and the Cuban friends have to deal with reality when we are not there.
Once I was yapping with a chica after a good session, the door was knocked and the casa owner called out the chica, and they spoke hush hush, the chica came back and said that there is someone selling chicken for a good price and she wondered whether I could help her. I said ok, and after a while she got a box of chicken and she asked me 25 cuc, I thought that some chicken for her would cost 3-5 cuc. This is in addition to whatever I paid her as a reward to be with me plus the small gifts. That night, my casa owner had invited her extended clan and they all had chicken dinner too. So I did not only paid for the chica. Here is the bad part, chica is a friend I thought and the casa owner used to call me that I am her son. She was the happiest I have seen her in a long time that night serving everyone in her family dinner at my cost. I did not say a word, it was the last time I every stayed there. I stay one block from her place now and I do tell her hola as I pass by and she must know now that what she did was wrong. As far as the chica, we made a deal to forget this, only her culo knows what it was.
One more thing. You should see sometimes the way most cubans talk about a tourist friend when that person leaves. Till the visitor is around they are all after him in the nicest possible way, once he leaves they make fun of the way he speaks, they tell how silly he was etc etc. I sit there thinking that is what they will say about me once I leave.
Originally Posted by VedadoFun [View Original Post]
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08-24-14 18:53 #35
Posts: 77Originally Posted by Taboc [View Original Post]
Havana is a great place to visit but you must be very careful there just like in many other major cities of the world. Be careful following the advice of those who have only been there 2 or 3 times or less.
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08-24-14 05:35 #34
Posts: 142I think once I spoke to this guy you are mentioning, long while back, may be a year or even more. He is tall and chubby and goes by the name George, and runs a rusty old car. He always repeats the words, 'my friend, my friend'. Is he the one? He sounded like he knows it all, and called a cop who happened to start next to Taramar and spoke to him like a friend, gave the cop a CD also.
Back in the club, another bro asked me to stay away from him, so it looks like he has a great reputation of screwing people.
Originally Posted by MrSoulo [View Original Post]
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07-15-14 10:38 #33
Posts: 228Originally Posted by Taboc [View Original Post]
The conversation we overheard made me want to puke. This vile creten was promising to bring the old Greek the freshest 14 year old girls he's ever had. My friend got so irate he wanted to go over and punch this multiple times in the mouth. I mean he really wanted to beat this piece of shit bloody. I just grabbed my friend and told him to let it go because if he touched him he could end up in a Cuban jail. So instead we went to the front desk and reported him which did absolutely nothing because after a few days of laying low he resurfaced in full swing.
Which goes to my point that all you guys already know.these Cubans stick together like glue with an attitude of "us against them". They really don't give a flying fuck as long as they're getting their kick backs at our expense.
Anyway, keep far away from this guy because he's constantly "schooling" the locals on how to fuck us Yumas. He's not to be trusted.
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01-22-14 04:52 #32
Posts: 3700Jinetero
On my first trip I was sitting in one of my spots people watching. This dark skinned Cuban dude seen that I was a brother and zeroed in on me. He said"Where are you from, NY, DC? LA?" I just gave him a hard look and a fake smile like I wasn't interested and he eventually got the message (I'm sure he was thinking"you arrogant black American fucker"). My second day of my first trip I was in the same spot and the brother just gave me a "Whats up". I gave him a "whats up" and told him"no disrespect but I'm just chilling alone". My third day we were in the same spot again and now that I had established that I don't need him, I decided to hear his pitch just to see how he would play it. The guy sat at my table and I brought him a beer. The guy was amazing. He told me which girls could fuck, which girls had deep pussies and which girls to avoid. He was able to get girls to our table that wouldn't even give me a "hola". I soon realized that most girls were available if you had the right approach.
I asked the guy about "his story", and he spent an hour telling me about hustling on the streets of NY, Interesting shit. After two hours of talking to this guy and buying him two beers, he called over a girl who I tried to get a couple days ago but she just ignored me, but now she was interested. She was cool and we left. As me and the girl left he asked for money to get something to eat. So I gave him 5 CUC. At the room the girl said she didn't like the guy and don't tell him anything we did. My fourth night I was at the spot when he came up talking that brother shit. I was back in my mood and told him"I'm just chilling alone". I had learned everything I needed to know from him to get started in Cuba hunting girls. The info he gave me was worth more than the two beers and 5 CUC I gave him. He gave the game up for nothing because he saw I wasn't easy prey and decided to stick with anything I gave him. The guy had remembered that I told him I like Rumba Cuban music so he gave me a cd of Rumba music. But really, I liked the dude and his style but I never let him take the lead because I let him know that I could get pussy in Cuba without him.
As someone said recently, get a streetwise girl who will take time to show you the ropes and pay her to show you how things work. She will give you pussy, she will be your tour guide, but say "no" when she tries some bullshit so she will develop respect for you also.
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01-22-14 03:43 #31
Posts: 345Those of us that are veterans of Cuba have seen many stories play out like this. Sometimes from the front row. We've all seen the hapless yuma strolling around with his jinatero pal thinking he's the most connected yuma on the island. Telling us how his 'fren' can grant him access to places we could only dream of. And if at the end of the day, he feels like he got what he paid for, good for him. Many of us know different. I usually don't tell them any different unless my opinion is asked for.
What has become more common over the last few years, is the expectation of compliance from the extranjero. Which is something I don't excuse. When I go to a restaurant with a friend and order dishes we know are 6cuc, an a coke each, the bill should come out as 14cuc, not 22cuc written on a blank piece of paper. I shouldn't have to argue with 3 different people before it's corrected. I shouldn't have to almost come to blows for paying 4cuc for a 3cuc taxi ride (la rampa to prado) when the driver insists I owe him 10cuc.
While I love to see the innovative little guy triumph against unfair odds, I don't feel it's my sole responsibility to right the wrongs of a million bad decisions. I also don't believe poverty is an acceptable excuse for robbery.
Yes, Havana is a great place to visit and get laid. But the hustle just doesn't quit.
Originally Posted by Taboc [View Original Post]
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01-21-14 04:05 #30
Posts: 142Originally Posted by Sammytheman [View Original Post]
They reinforce it by getting a taxi at a lower rate, introduce nice chicas, take the monger to their home and say things like this is your home, and be a shadow where ever the monger goes and act like a body guard. While this is happening, the monger starts to wonder the great luck he is riding, and become very happy with their company.
The Cuban guys know exactly when the monger starts trusting them, and then start their own game. They tempt the monger for something that he never had, it could be an orgy, it could be drugs, it could be a hosted fiesta where the promise is numerous chicas, or it could be as simple as lobsters for dinner. The monger gladly accepts what is offered, and pay what the Cuban jinetero wants and as a result the jinetero makes a killing. The jinetero would do this in a heartbeat if he thinks the monger is not going to come back, or the monger has no other friends to compare the rates.
Around Christmas, I was sitting in Taramar bar near Tropicoco in Playa Del Este. As usual, I am by myself having a drink and burning a good stick of Cohiba. I see this jinetero walking in with three girls, they all take a seat in a table next to me, and the jinetero tells them I do not know Spanish and coaches them what to do and how much to ask when he brings in mongers.
After a while I walk out to make a pay phone call, and I see this jinetero hustling in two mongers in his dead beat car. One guy says hello to me and I greet him too. Back in the club, this monger starts talking to me, and askes me to come to their table. I go there and he tells me that the jinetero is his best friend. He knows him for a number of years and has been helping him to have a great time and I should engage him too. I say thank you, and that I am good on my own. After a while everything plays out as planned by the jinetero, the chicas ask 60cuc each, and the jinetero walks in and tells the mongers they only have to pay 50cuc. The monger turns to me and says his jinetero friend saved him 30cuc right away, and that he will take them to a casa for 20cuc each for 3-4 hours of fun. The fact is the chicas are worth max 30cuc, the casa for 3-4 hours is worth 10cuc, may be 15cuc per person. So on the bargain they lost some 50cuc.
The unfortuate thing is that they do not even know the chicas were planted there for them before he brought them in. In their mind, they went to a bar, three chicas from the university were sitting and having a good time and their jinetero friend helped to score them at cheap rates.
It is not what is gained and what is lost is important. We go there for fun, what 50cuc mean, one tank of gas back home. But the important thing is that the trust is exploited by the jinetero, I feel bad about that.
At the same time, I am also thinking what I would have done if I was a jinetero. I see a monger come to my country, spend a lot on flight ticket, and then spend in one day what my hardworking brothers and sisters make in six months. What would I do. Would I feel bad cheating them. Of course not. I would only feel bad that I did not cheat them more.
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01-20-14 08:18 #29
Posts: 3700Originally Posted by Sammytheman [View Original Post]
You are pissed and I understand that, but you have to present the whole story if you want the boards support. It appears one-sided. I guess the true lesson here is that you don't need other dudes to help you get pussy in Cuba.
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01-20-14 06:23 #28
Posts: 210Beware of this MOFO
Hello fellas. Hope you guys re having fun in Cuba but I thought I make you guys be aware of this former friend whom I knew for over 3 years fucked with me. My buddy went to Holguin by himself and because he is new, this mofo by the name of Raymundo took advantage of him. Examples are, he brought a couple of girls over but because my buddy was drunk, he took out money from his pocket and paid the bitches for their services. Then when his phone was out of funds, he texted me pretending he is my friend and asked me top-up his phone so he can call his mother in Canada. Meanwhile he was telling my friend how loves screwing tourists over for their money. He did this after I paid for his meals, for his bitches etc. Not cool. If you see this douchebag, lowball him. Take advantage of him and if you can, report him to the police for pimping girls to tourists. Enjoy your vacation and trust nobody in there. Lesson learned.
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07-02-09 21:33 #27
Posts: 136Thanks 4 the pics Bonker 04. Very nice chica!
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09-03-08 01:44 #26
Posts: 96This video is a riot.
http://www.veoh.com/fullscreen_singl...305108FyKBtYJ3
How little the Anti-Fidel crowd knows, it's the chulos and jineteras who are taking the viejos for a ride.