Moscow

[Bruno750]

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[Stravinsky]

Yummy,

Love the foto of Kori and Sveta smoking on the balkon, это очень типичный (it's very typical).

When you send your SMS messages, are you writing in Cyrillic? English? How do the girls respond?

It must be quite a treat for a young Russian woman to have the run-of-the-house in a nice apartment in the center of Moscow, I imagine Kori couldn't wait to get rid of Nadya so that she could invite her friend over. Too bad Nadya stayed so long???

I took advantage of it and my hands were roaming freely (but not overtly sexually) and I had a raging hard on but things didn't develop in that direction. I guess I should be more sexually assertive.

So, you're lying in bed with 2 naked women and a raging hard-on. Can't help but be curious, just exactly what part of "Yes" did you not understand?

[YummyPL]

I had set my alarm for 11:00 and I tapped on the snooze button when it went off. It was nice being snuggled up to Nadya. Before my alarm went off a second time Kori entered the room and jumped on the bed with us. She was jumping on the bed rather actively and disrupting any rest so I grabbed her and pulled her under the blankets. She snuggled up with me on the opposite side as Nadya. They both had their leg across me and their arms wrapped around me. It was really the first sign of competition since Kori arrived. I took advantage of it and my hands were roaming freely (but not overtly sexually) and I had a raging hard on but things didn't develop in that direction. I guess I should be more sexually assertive.

After lounging a bit we crawl out of bed. Nadya's flight is at 16:30 so we really don't have much time. We eat and shower and Nadya and I head for the metro. I escort Nadya to the Aeroexpress and she gives me a nice hug and kiss goodbye and is on her way. I send a SMS to a new girl Svetlana confirming our dinner at 19:00. I return to the apartment to rest, get some computer time, and get ready for the evening. Kori wrote me that she is out with friends and would be home late.

I meet Svetlana at the same restaurant that I met Anna at on Tuesday evening. I will take this opportunity to note that I had both sent SMS messages and an email to that Anna who was very fun, but so far she has not responded to me at all when she had always responded quickly before. In any case, Svetlana is quite attractive but very cool toward me. We had great email conversations and we share many interests but I guess I am losing my touch with the older girls. In any case, we have dinner and talk for about 2 hours and then she says she should be going soon. We talk a bit more then I walk her out to her car. It was pleasant to spend this time with her but it ended in a simple hug and kiss on the cheek.

Perhaps I knew going in that things would not be great because I had sent an SMS to Jake that I would be eating in his neighborhood and didn't expect to be late if he would be around. I sent him a text saying dinner was done and we met at his local hangout. We talked and swapped stories. A big shout out to Jake—he is a great guy. During my time with Jake, my girl Olga who I broke it off with sent me 4 SMS messages asking how I was and wanting to see me. I really didn't want to see her this trip as I didn't want to get caught up in her clinginess so I ignored her messages.

Jake had to work in the morning so we finished up maybe around midnight. I sent a SMS to Kori asking what she was doing. Her immediate response was 'I got a present for you) ' and told me she would give it to me when I got to the apartment. She then said 'I am sorry I didn't ask but I am in the apartment drinking with a friend. ' I told her that it wasn't a problem and her friend was welcome. Inside I was a bit concerned that it was going to be a guy and even a little concerned that this being our last night and I was alone that she might even rob me. This was not a big concern, but the thought crossed my mind for sure.

When I got to the apartment I entered cautiously and then I heard the sounds of quick movement. Then I see Kori come around the corner quickly and she ran to me and gave me a big hug and light kiss. She was wearing one of my tshirts with panties underneath. She was obviously a bit drunk. This was a good sign but I remained cautious. I walk into the living room and there sat her friend—a very attractive young lady wearing a little tshit and leggings. Very nice. Kori grabbed something off the counter and brought it to me. It was a tshirt of a Russian rock band—pretty cool actually. She started to apologize profusely for bringing a friend over without asking. I thought to myself ' I like the shirt a lot but if things turn out well, I think your friend is a much better present. ' In any case I assured her it was not problem and I was happy to have her friend there. She introduces me to her friend Sveta that was her best friend in high school but that was now attending university in Moscow. She was attractive and had a great little athletic body. It turns out she is a runner on her school running team. Very yummy.)

For the next 4-5 hours we sit and listen to music and drink. Sveta's English is worse than Kori's is but we manage to be OK. Throughout the night Kori is very close to me but Sveta is pretty friendly too. The girls often sit on both sides of me on the couch very close when there are many places to sit and plenty of room on the couch so that closeness wasn't necessary. It was very good and so far my best night in Moscow. The most overtly sexual I got with Sveta was when she put her bare feet on my lap and I gave her a foot rub and then started sucking on her toes. I can't confirm this, but I had done something very similar with both Nadya and Kori on previous nights so I almost think it was a setup by Kori. In any case, Sveta reacted first by pulling away but then reversed her actions and seemed to enjoy the attention I was giving her feet. About a week ago in VK I mentioned the situation and Sveta told me that she thought it was a little weird but Kori had said I liked feet and it felt good.)

In any case, again I probably should have been more sexually aggressive and I might have gotten a threesome but I played it cool and we ended the night with me making the bed for Sveta in the living room and Kori going to bed with me. It was a good night. Sex was very good and I am sure it was somewhat fueled by the sexual tension of the night. Kori was a good kisser and quite loud. There is no doubt that Sveta would have heard her (and the neighbors, and maybe the people on the street for their morning commute.) I think we probably passed out around 06:00.

The picture is me with Kori and Sveta in the apartment and both girls on the balcony. The other picture is of Sveta that I did not take.

End of Day 6

[YummyPL]

Yummy,

Of the women you met on your trip, how many of them, do you think, actually believed your cover as a "businessman"?

Of the 20 or so women I have been with long enough to share a meal with in all my trips to Russia, only two asked me too many questions on our first date. I did not make any attempt to contact those two again.

I believe all the other ones believe me completely. My story is basically seamless and consistent across every woman I meet. The only slight difference really is where I am on any given day and arrival dates and departure dates. I keep it simple and take notes for myself. This is almost as much science as it is art for me. I would like to make the trips to Moscow simply tourism trips but who goes to Moscow 5-6 times a year just for tourism? So my frequency also adds to the illusion.

I'd feel bad except I know all girls are blood sucking vampires.))) I am giving them enough by treating them well. Maybe someday I will actually fall in love. I have the perfect out for that, as well.

I really think my biggest risk of exposure is remembering the girl's name. Too many girls and many of them have similar or the same name. It can be challenging. I try to adopt pet names as early as they are feasible. I also worry about VK a bit. I have most of the girls hidden but I can't hide them "liking" my posts.

[Stravinsky]

Yummy,

Of the women you met on your trip, how many of them, do you think, actually believed your cover as a "businessman"?

[YummyPL]

I lost my notes on Day 5. I know not much happened but I am not sure why I did not have a lunch date planned. I know I wanted to have the evening at home with the girls because this was Nadya's last night with me.

Around 14:00 I contacted my new girl Maria (Masha) and asked if she could meet me for an early dinner. I had told her I had arrived in Moscow on Monday, two days earlier. She agreed and we met near her metro station at around 18:00 and went to a place called El Basco Tapas Bar. It was quiet, and had good food for the price. It was a good place to sit and talk. She seemed thrilled to be there with me and liked the single rose I got her. This girl was easy to please. I've not had such a positive initial reaction since I first met my girl Olga.

We had a nice conversation and after dinner we went for a short walk around the neighborhood. We held hands and she held my arm. At about 20:30 I told her I had to go (I had told her when we set up the date). We had a brief but nice kiss goodnight and I departed on the metro. A few minutes after I left she texted me and thanked me for the evening and the rose. Good start although it was obvious this girl was a husband hunter.

I get back to the apartment at about 21:30 to join Nadya and Kori. We drank together and I was showing Nadya some attention. She was friendlier than she had been. At around midnight we all decided to go on a walk. We walk all the way from Arbat to Pushkinskaya and then to Red Square before returning home around 4. It was fun. The three of us drank a little more and then we went to bed. This night Nadya spent the night with me but with no sex. We just slept holding each other like close friends. I guess we will keep our relationship there. Probably for the best anyway.

Picture of Masha I did not take but gives you a good idea. Really very nice for a 28 year old.

End of Day 5

[YummyPL]

but the same night around 1 am I am rudely denied at che by a bodyguard.

But Che is very popular and very tiny. I've not tried to enter there at 01:00 on a weekend night. I suspect some handsome oligarchs might be denied without passing some cash to the manager or doorman...

I am curious if anybody has experience reserving a table at Che?

[Iceberg27]

I agree using the Web for first meeting is good. I can't pretend to give advice to someone that is there much more than I am, but it seems socializing outside of nightclubs can be effective.

May I ask your ethnicity? What clothes you wear? I am an American white guy and have never been denied by face control anywhere, but Iceburg is Turkish and he also got into Old School Pub and had a great time.

He is right about the time. I was let in because it was 10:30 pm when I try to enter O. S. P. There was only one young bodyguard in front of the door and he didn't even notice that I enter but the same night around 1 am I am rudely denied at che by a bodyguard. If you have time it s of course better to use web to meet girls but personally I don't have time and patience for this. So people like me must find another way to meet with them.

[Member #2096]

I agree using the Web for first meeting is good. I can't pretend to give advice to someone that is there much more than I am, but it seems socializing outside of nightclubs can be effective. Also, at nightclubs, how far are you going? Are you drinking, dancing, touching, kissing? It seems to me that you have to go beyond the simple talking phase to get their return commitment. I assure you it is not impossible.

May I ask your ethnicity? What clothes you wear? I am an American white guy and have never been denied by face control anywhere, but Iceburg is Turkish and he also got into Old School Pub and had a great time.

Well I am European from Holland and have blond hair and blue eyes and I am as white as the Russians. I wear normal casual clothes, like Gant, Tommy, Mc Gregor but not a suit. But I am 47 and maybe they only let young people in. I do drink in bars, kiss, touch, in general you can be bolder in Russia than in Europe since they will kick you out easily. I have picked up some gals from La Kantina before for one night stand so it is not impossible. Just my experience is that if a girl is with 2 friend or something they want to go back together. No matter how much she enjoyed that night with you, the moment she is sober the next morning all is forgotten and that includes you then. I think it also depends on the time of the night, at 9:00 they will probably let you in but at prime time in a popular club in the centre you can forget to get in alone. So the nightlife in Moscow pretty much sucks for me, that's why I mostly focus on internet dating and not on meeting gals in bars since it is almost impossible in Russia. I have travelled to many countries and if you ever come in Asia (Shanghai, Taipei, Seoul, Singapore, Bangkok) the nightlife is so much better, cheaper and the girls nicer and easyer.

I think that speaking Russian makes life a lot easyer and my Rusian level is close to zero which makes it also very difficult to get taxis. But to learn Russian I probably had to quit my job for one or two years to full time study Russian which is not possible.

[YummyPL]

Well I did not need to pay but never found a girl in a bar. They all give their telephone number but next day they never answer or are busy or other excuses not to see you. So if you can not score on the first evening forget about it.

But I did very easy find girls on the RussianCupid site. Just take them for a meal one or two times and they go with you to the hotel. Then of course it becomes a long term relationship until the girls want to get married (usually after 3-6 months) and the story starts again.

I agree using the Web for first meeting is good. I can't pretend to give advice to someone that is there much more than I am, but it seems socializing outside of nightclubs can be effective. Also, at nightclubs, how far are you going? Are you drinking, dancing, touching, kissing? It seems to me that you have to go beyond the simple talking phase to get their return commitment. I assure you it is not impossible.

May I ask your ethnicity? What clothes you wear? I am an American white guy and have never been denied by face control anywhere, but Iceburg is Turkish and he also got into Old School Pub and had a great time.

[Member #2096]

Well I did not need to pay but never found a girl in a bar. They all give their telephone number but next day they never answer or are busy or other excuses not to see you. So if you can not score on the first evening forget about it.

But I did very easy find girls on the RussianCupid site. Just take them for a meal one or two times and they go with you to the hotel. Then of course it becomes a long term relationship until the girls want to get married (usually after 3-6 months) and the story starts again.

[YummyPL]

Well following the advise from this site I went to old school pub around 23:00 this night and I did not get in. In Che I also did not get in. Like I said before the nightlife in Moscow sucks and you better off in Munich or another German City. I found my girlfriend through Russiancupid and this is much better than going to bars. Finally I just went to La Kantina which is always nice. However the drink here also getting more expensive (Rum-cola now 280 Rub which was 180 Rub one year ago.

I have to be here for business but even then it it not that great. I recommend not going to Moscow unless absolutely nessecary for business. For mongering any German city is much better than Moscow. I work 50% of my time in Moscow and the other 50% in Germany so I know what I talk about.

Tiffany

I agree 100%. Germany cannot beat for mongering. Moscow has a different appeal. If you live there 50% of the time there is absolutely no reason for you to ever pay a hooker unless you want to. As Jake said to me when we were having a drink together,"Moscow is filled with under-appreciated 7s." You just need to find them (or have them find you!) and appreciate them.

[Member #2096]

Well following the advise from this site I went to old school pub around 23:00 this night and I did not get in. In Che I also did not get in. Like I said before the nightlife in Moscow sucks and you better off in Munich or another German City. I found my girlfriend through Russiancupid and this is much better than going to bars. Finally I just went to La Kantina which is always nice. However the drink here also getting more expensive (Rum-cola now 280 Rub which was 180 Rub one year ago.

I have to be here for business but even then it it not that great. I recommend not going to Moscow unless absolutely nessecary for business. For mongering any German city is much better than Moscow. I work 50% of my time in Moscow and the other 50% in Germany so I know what I talk about.

Tiffany

[YummyPL]

Yummy,

Can't help but be curious. When you leave the apartment in the morning to go to your "business meeting", how are you dressed?

Depending on my audience but pretty much like a business man.

[Stravinsky]

Yummy,

Can't help but be curious... When you leave the apartment in the morning to go to your "business meeting", how are you dressed?