Tokyo

[Taratata]

If I may share my experience in relation to us, foreign lot, being provided with service; I have never been turned away from any places, I have visited. I know where my limitations are, so I stick to what I know or I read this forum over and over before trying a new place. My Japanese level is very low but I get around and get things done. I consider the experience to be educational. Go somewhere, learn a bit, graduate and then try somewhere else. The funny thing is that I have learnt more Japanese by going to some service places than I have learnt during my office hours! However, I know that the young 22 years old Japanese superbabe is still out of my league. I accept that.

Enough said about that. Now a little report about some new-ish ladies at New-york New-york. I had a "japanese lesson with benefit" with Sayaka a few weeks ago. She is very friendly and enthusiastic. The usual service was provided. Also, she seemed to enjoy me playing with her. I received a lengthy praise at the end of it all (was it customer service? Who cares? It put a smile on my face). Several weeks before enjoying some time with Sayaka, I was given Rumi. I was hoping to get her for a while. She looks playfully naughty on her profile. I can only say that the session was ok. She kept on going away from the playground at crucial moments. However, she was unbelievably wet down under.

Always be nice to the ladies and happy hunting.

[El Kapitan]

In town for just 2 days. I had a year of Japanese in high school so have the language skills of a local 2 yr old. I love the culture but after reading thru the most recent exchanges this sounds like the difficulty level far exceeds my abilities.

I am looking for a good massage from a cute Japanese girl with a happy ending. Outcall to my hotel would be perfect.

Please PM if you can help.

Staying at the Hilton Tokyo.

Cheers!

[Homer69]

I agree regarding language and culture. From my perspective, if you've taken the trouble to learn the language you most likely know the cultural nuances and will not have any "surprises" because you already know the rules. Some of the rules are very different, especially in the legal health places where FS is just not tolerated. Those legal licenses are very precious and they don't want to lose them. Even the protocol in soaps, where FS is part of the deal, the protocols are sometimes difficult to communicate. A lot of tencho just figure it is not worth the trouble, because they have had bad experiences.

Mr. Fruit, one occasionally hears "Nihongo dake" but "Nihonjin dake", while it does occur, is a much rarer phenomenon and generally disappears after a minor display of language skills and civilized demeanor.

I think that most longtime Tokyo mongerers realize there are 3 types of players.

1. Fluent / High Level Japanese Speakers: There are very few establishments that don't want your business and for you, Tokyo is truly paradise on earth. It's not cheap but neither is filet mignon.

2. Limited (or No) Japanese / Positive Attitude: Your choices are limited. Essentially to pink salons, Chinese shops and the few Japanese places (reviewed extensively on these pages) that speak enough English to get the deal done. Not so bad, really.

3. No Japanese / Lousy Attitude / Entitlement Mentality: Everything here is too expensive, everyone is a racist and your failure to launch is everyone's problem but your own.

For the type 3s, I'm sure things are way better where you come from and you can't wait to get back. Please don't let me keep you.

[FruitNinja]

Indeed.

The good news is that our "friend" has now left, so this thread can now reverse to what it has always been, I. E a nice place to share info.

I'm gone but there in spirit. In a much more friendly mongering destination. Thanks for all the help.

[Evan Stoner]

Name was Misaki. However when I went back tonight the lift no longer stopped at the third floor. Was around 7. 30pm so should have been open, no phone number so couldn't call.

I'd like to hear about better options around Kanda if you have a few?

Thanks. Regarding the closed floor, that happens sometimes when there has been a recent police raid or there is the expectation of one. The cops make it an annual habit to hit sketchy massage places in the Spring and that is happening now. Crescent 2F also seems to not be doing business: home page is not working although it was a couple days ago, and there was no answer when I tried calling.

http://www.kanda-fei.com/

As for recommendations in Kanda, there is no easy answer. Some swear by Mugen, and while the girls there are above average attractive their "kanyoudo" ("lenience level") tends to be low. You might give them a try if that sounds like your scene.

By the way the Vivian phone number is on their home page.

ES

[Japanguy]

I do know of some people who managed to use Happy Berry just fine with no Japanese language abilities at all.

That's interesting.

On my first visit I was grilled quite extensively on my knowledge of the industry, time in Japan and asked to read aloud the card shown to me. On some subsequent visits I've been given the batsu sign before pulling out my members card then I've been treated quite warmly.

[Johnnyboy84]

Ultimately, you need Japanese street smarts to get in a good number of businesses and thankfully I got that.

If a guy starts trouble, the police do get involved and the person gets blacklisted and pays a heavy fine. The shop takes a picture of you and you have to write an apology essay they keep on record as well as other personal information. I saw this in a documentary and never had to experience it myself. These practices is also why some businesses refrain from serving foreigners.

As for his experience at Happy Berry, it must have been bad timing. Like it has been noted, if you look at the profiles in the homepage, it indicates with a globe mark who is foreigner friendly and he must have been there on a time when there were no girls present. But like I said, private businesses and ultimately their employees have the right to refuse service for whatever reason. And soaplands also have the right to "tax" us. It's their store.

Of course communication and lack of understanding the laws are one thing. And diseases is also a factor though it could happen to anyone.

[Gaijin Otoko]

Maybe FruitNinja visited during a time when the limited amount of women available weren't free to foreigners. Keep in mind that not every girl is free to do so. I do know of some people who managed to use Happy Berry just fine with no Japanese language abilities at all. If in the event Happy Berry tells me their services for Japanese nationals only, I will show them my membership card.

It's not just business policy but the choice of the girl to not do business with foreigners. Money may not always talk but people need to understand Japan is a free market and regardless, businesses and their employees have a choice in who they conduct business with.

But yes, communication is a majority of the reason and also understanding the culture. Another reason is that foreigners may think they may get FS when in fact it is illegal.

That's a logical explanation that I had not considered. Good point. In the end, it is probably best for everyone that Mr. Fruit Ninja did not get accepted. He likely would have screwed it up for the rest of us.

[Johnnyboy84]

Um, I've been to Happy Berry many times and been accepted without hesitation, and I'm so white I'm translucent. Sorry to burst your self-righteous indignation, but I'm 99% certain that "Japanese Only" means only people who can speak the language of the nation you happen to be in. I mean, not all people can be evolved enough to speak English, now can they?

Maybe FruitNinja visited during a time when the limited amount of women available weren't free to foreigners. Keep in mind that not every girl is free to do so. I do know of some people who managed to use Happy Berry just fine with no Japanese language abilities at all. If in the event Happy Berry tells me their services for Japanese nationals only, I will show them my membership card.

It's not just business policy but the choice of the girl to not do business with foreigners. Money may not always talk but people need to understand Japan is a free market and regardless, businesses and their employees have a choice in who they conduct business with.

But yes, communication is a majority of the reason and also understanding the culture. Another reason is that foreigners may think they may get FS when in fact it is illegal.

[Shibuya]

Yes, Vivian is in the Crescent bldg.

http://kanda-aroma.net/top.php

I haven't been to Crescent in a while, as there are better options in the region. The girl sounds fun if expensive. Do you remember her name?

ES

Name was Misaki. However when I went back tonight the lift no longer stopped at the third floor. Was around 7.30pm so should have been open, no phone number so couldn't call.

I'd like to hear about better options around Kanda if you have a few?

[Dreams]

Much better than all the nonsense talk on here today.

ES

Indeed.

The good news is that our "friend" has now left, so this thread can now reverse to what it has always been, I. E a nice place to share info.

[Dreams]

Both have names that promote Japan.

Hmmm

I don't.

Have a good flight back, and don't think you have to come back.

[Evan Stoner]

The recommended spot of spring of Tokyo?

Tokyo Bay "water-bus" (Waterbus Stations car stop)

http://www.suijobus.co.jp/index.html

The water-bus which slices through a wind and runs is pleasant. Since every place in the city of Tokyo is revolved, a scene can be enjoyed at a stretch.

Kasai Rinkai Park.

http://www.tokyo-zoo.net/zoo/kasai/

The spot which can enjoy both an aquarium and the extensive park.

Showa commemoration park.

http://www.showakinenpark.go.jp/

A walk date will be made dimly, looking at spring flower arrangement.

Chidorigafuchi.

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/

%E5%8D%83%E9%B3%A5%E3%83%B6%E6%B7%B5.

It is one of the pronouns of spring of Tokyo.

The beauty of a cherry tree can be enjoyed fully gently.

Harumi triton.

http://www.harumi-triton.jp/

It is a spot of direction in spring which also has a green terrace and a terrace of a flower something.

Much better than all the nonsense talk on here today.

ES

[Evan Stoner]

3rd floor, I think this is the Crescent building. About 7 floors of massage places.

&12306; 101-0041 T&333; ky&333; . To, Chiyoda-ku, Kanda Sudach&333; .1 Chome &65316; &65313; &65321; &65321; &65315; &65320; &65321; &12499; &12523;

http://goo.gl/maps/jaj11

Massage place with unassisted shower before and after. 8K for 60 mins inc HJ. Cleaner than most, tencho is gaijin friendly and speaks some English. Language no barrier.

First time I got a decent massage and OK ending from a 35ish Chinese woman, nice enough but nothing special.

Second time was a younger Chinese girl (mid 20s) , very fit, very sexy and pretty horny (or a decent enough impression which will do for me).

Lots of touching during the massage, lying on my back breathing heavily in my ear which drives me nuts. Paid an extra 5K for her to strip, DATY for a long time, no BJ but a lot of fun. First time I've met her so could be more on the menu but I'll definitely be back to see her.

Recommended but depends on the girl so YMMV.

Yes, Vivian is in the Crescent bldg.

http://kanda-aroma.net/top.php

I haven't been to Crescent in a while, as there are better options in the region. The girl sounds fun if expensive. Do you remember her name?

ES

[FruitNinja]

Both have names that promote Japan.

Things that make you go. Hmmm