Sauna Club Golden Time - Bruggen

[Wanderer1000]

I'm posting in the GT thread, and I'm being intolerent, but I visited Babylon for the first time this week. There were 20 to 25 girls, and it was a doghouse. "Service Clubs" mean doghouses for the most part in my experience. They have to perform better, because who else would go with them? Go ahead, rip me a new one, but somebody has to say it.

[Maxime]

Opinions
Everybody has their own preferences and opinions. Respect that. Lets not get into a pissing contest over it.

Maxine is offering you his honest opinion about his experiences and is clear about his preferences. If his preferences don't align with yours, it might help someone else (like me). If you prefer to sacrifice or be more challenged to get good service at a club with top level, model-like women. Great. You prefer very good looks even if you have to sacrifice a little in service quality. Great.

As for myself, next week I am going to experience a little of both, not because I want to make the comparison, but because I like both service and good looks but may not get both in one place.

Lets get back to identifying who to seek and who to avoid, as well as how to have the best possible time at the club for the individual threads.

+1.

It indeed has to do with personal preferences, and since some people find looks more important, and some are more keen on service (and some more on facilities, and some more on the catering, etc, etc) it would be nice if we respect each other's preferences, and don't only "defend" our own favorite club without a more balanced detailed description in what you like about it (and what you dislike about it and stop with hollow preaching!).

There is no one single truth. And THE perfect club does not exist!

[PussyLiccker]

I like to think my opinions are honest too. LOL. Everybody has honest opinions, but they don't go around preaching like he does. Read his recent posts, it's pretty excessive. He's going around posting everywhere the Babylon is service, bla bla bla. Anyway, we share difference in taste so if he has opinions, honest or not, it's better not to derail the GT thread with "honest" opinions as we all have them about clubs we like and dislike for personal reasons.

His honest opiniion is that the reports here are hyped. Reports of people having a good time with some nice girls at GT. YMMV.

[Mambomike]

Everybody has their own preferences and opinions. Respect that. Lets not get into a pissing contest over it.

Maxine is offering you his honest opinion about his experiences and is clear about his preferences. If his preferences don't align with yours, it might help someone else (like me). If you prefer to sacrifice or be more challenged to get good service at a club with top level, model-like women. Great. You prefer very good looks even if you have to sacrifice a little in service quality. Great.

As for myself, next week I am going to experience a little of both, not because I want to make the comparison, but because I like both service and good looks but may not get both in one place.

Lets get back to identifying who to seek and who to avoid, as well as how to have the best possible time at the club for the individual threads.

Same here. Just noticed every one of Maxime's post is go to Babylon... service clubs.. bla bla. LOL. I guess he doesn't get that we don't have his fine tastes in services. LOL. Somebody listen to the poor guy and go there so he don't keep pestering us. I'm not going.

[PussyLiccker]

The problem with the service clubs is that I'm afraid I will not like any of the girls as I'm so picky on appearance. Also it is more challenging to go to these clubs like GT and Oasis and get what I want. It makes me feel more special as I know in the service clubs all guys get what they want. Anyway I will try out a service club next time if someone can assure me that the line up is better than YY or LR.

Same here. Just noticed every one of Maxime's post is go to Babylon... service clubs.. bla bla. LOL. I guess he doesn't get that we don't have his fine tastes in services. LOL. Somebody listen to the poor guy and go there so he don't keep pestering us. I'm not going.

[PussyLiccker]

I've seen group of caucasian being denied entry. There are certain criterias to their door policy, and they enforce it since they don't seem to be hurting for business as the place is pretty packed. I've seen "other" races there from time to time, so it's not what we think of as racially motivated, but business. When the place is more packed, they get more selective, and it's not just filtering out only the dark skinned races.

YY seems to have girls that migrated from other clubs such as Magnum and PHG, but I wouldn't say the Line-up is better than GT. I go back to GT because from time to time, I find some stunning girls there as optics is high on my list of what I'm looking for, and I find lots of girls with optics there do provide great services. I'm looking for optics and good services and GT is one of the top places I can find the top optics that has potential to provide good services as I've run into many girls there that does so. Although last couple visits, the line-up wasn't all that great. Usually, there are new stunners that show up that I pick out that provide exceptional services, but it was hard pickings last visit.

Used to go to Frankfurt as a newbie, not so much as I always find better girls at the NRW. Which is the why I keep going back.

In the end, YMMV, and choose wisely or go to one of the service clubs if don't know how to deal with a prostitute. LOL. If you can't find what you are looking for in a club, it's better to go somewhere else than complain about the club that is pretty packed.

[Nille Copenhagen]

Really? That's amazing: First they reject you, but then add, as you beat a hasty retreat back to your car: "Oh, but don't hesitate to visit our sister club, Living Room in Kaarst, an industrial area outside D-dorf. We highly recommend it!" LOL: Do they give you a discount voucher on the LR Eintritt?

O.

If you came from the Dutch side, they would recommend VV or Happy Garden or at least I do when I see people getting reject when I enter GT.

No they don't give a LR discount voucher to people that got rejected, because they never pay the GT entrance fee, Money saved on GT and the girls LOL.

[Ortos]

The door policy is to attract some girls or clients group, because in Living Room which is a sisterclub, they let everybody in.

GT also recommend LR to people they rejected.

Really? That's amazing: First they reject you, but then add, as you beat a hasty retreat back to your car: "Oh, but don't hesitate to visit our sister club, Living Room in Kaarst, an industrial area outside D-dorf. We highly recommend it!" LOL: Do they give you a discount voucher on the LR Eintritt?

O.

[Nille Copenhagen]

I don't believe in the gang-bang theory either.

The door policy is to attract some girls or clients group, because in Living Room which is a sisterclub, they let everybody in.

GT also recommend LR to people they rejected.

[Dutedrac]

The gang (bang?) theory don't sound very realistic. GT door policy is known (no turks / arabs, no black, no large groups, very few exceptions) and is a fact, some like it (many of the girls) and some not. What's behind it is pure speculation and of very little interest to me.

YY is a premium club, facilities (indoor + outdoor) much better than GT, and has a decent lineup, but not really comparable to GT, don't matter if day or night.

Unfortunately YY lineup is nowadays clearly rom dominated ( 50% and it's become hard to get a 75 per hour session due to weak enforcement by management.

I still hit some great sessions there every now and then, but don't expect to find stunners (very rare and not regulars).

In GT girls can shower after sessions in the men dressing room or in the jacuzzi area, and 99% of my girls do (well, they really need to).

Waiting times have recently become less of a problem in my experience, and not because of new rooms but because the numbers are slightly downing, like everywhere else.

Food also getting worse on average (YY much yummier food).

[Levitraboner]

Seems to me that if they own a private club they should do as they please of course if the state owned the club it would be different. If someone objects. Go somewhere else.

I did not know about the no showers for the girls. I find that and no Romanians under 21 much more offensive. Think next time I will go to YY instead.

[UltraHappy]

I'm surprised that noone has brought this up yet, but its rumoured widely that the "racist" door policy has not so much to do with racism but much more with rival gangs operating in the territory and this is their way (or one of their ways) to keep the competition out (that consists predominantly of gangs with a lot of immigrants / south east european / turkish / north african types).

This rival gangs theory is much less offensive than a true racist door policy. I suppose this means that they don't turn away any 60 year olds then? If racism isn't the root of the door policy and it is indeed motivated by gang-control, then it would make sense that 60 year olds from the same usually-prohibited ethnic backgrounds are admitted, given that 60 year olds are not likely to engage in violence and tend no longer be active in any gangs (other than the weekly guys poker "gang" or whatever).

As I don't frequent GT anymore, I haven't witnessed this door policy in action myself. I would definitely return to GT if they (1) provided shower facilities to the girls, (2) eliminated the no under 21 rule for Romanians, and (3) eliminated "Gaytime" (also long room waits during those times). It would also be a big bonus if they got the girls to stick to the 50/25 pricing and didn't allow the girls to set their own prices.

[TonyCarioca11]

Tony, it's reported on other boards YY has a good lineup. Your mistake was going to YY before GT. YY is much better at night and GT doesn't differentiate much talent wise between night and day.

Well I heard from some experts on the rhineforum that the line-up at YY cannot compare with GT and there must be a reason GT is full of Dutch people. Well I went to see for myself and if you read the LR forum you will also not hear much complaint about the line-up. I only saw 2nd class Romanians in both places (LR and YY). For most people these ladies maybe good enough but anything below face and body 8/10 is not my type. As stated before the girls at YY have too many imperfections. I don't think the line-up would have been much better in the evening but you can go for yourself to find out. I saw the girls coming in slowly but none of them were my type. You also saw the comments from another person that after YY, GT will look like the best and so it did.

I'm always open to give it another try due to Sanja moving there (review in ACA section as I met her there).

[Banana Boi]

Tony, it's reported on other boards YY has a good lineup. Your mistake was going to YY before GT. YY is much better at night and GT doesn't differentiate much talent wise between night and day.

Don't tip for DFK whether it be 1 euro or 20 euro. It should be part of the session. I'm one of the few who will tip for exceptional service AFTER a session but the girl doesn't know that beforehand. No DFK = No tip.

[TonyCarioca11]

I'm surprised that noone has brought this up yet, but its rumoured widely that the "racist" door policy has not so much to do with racism but much more with rival gangs operating in the territory and this is their way (or one of their ways) to keep the competition out (that consists predominantly of gangs with a lot of immigrants / south east european / turkish / north african types). Hence also why its reported that south east asians do not have any trouble getting in they just keep all guys out that remotely look like they could belong to one of those groups. Ofc I do not have any proof for that either, its just hearsay, but I heard it multiple times independently and was also discussed on various boards. It also sounds more believable than the former theory.

I had written about my perception of the GT door policy before. It's not racism but discrimination based on how you look.

If you look like a vulgar peasant (could be from any ethnic background) or you look like a potential gang member they don't let you in. You could be Turkish, SE European and whatever and still make it in and I always see Turks inside but they look more refined.

At YY for example they admitted a group of guys who looked like gang members one had a bandage on his eye, others with tatoos and they would have never made it into GT.

Similarly some vulgar and peasant looking Turks who make it into ACA would never get in at GT. So I would call it a face control. I'm so tanned now that I was one of the darkest people at GT this time and they always let me in with no problem. Every club has the right not to admit people who they feel will cause issues inside.