FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Frozty]

Thanks Kimino! I plan to return to Artemis regardless of what the others say. My only knock on Artemis is the amount of smoke that fills the main bar area. Sometimes, I need to retreat to the downstairs bar for some fresh air, or outside to the new rooms. They need to build a new heated waiting area during the cold months. Non-smoking of course.
FiddyCent.

The FKK model suits me the best, and Artemis remains my favourite of the four clubs that I have visited. I like to take a full day, and relax between sessions, so it works well for me. The smoke, and the music, would be my only significant complaints, but I visit during the day when neither is a problem. I'm not tempted by the Bordellos and I'm not much of a drinker, so the FKK environment works well for me.

I suspect that if I ever start to tire of Artemis, it will be me that's the problem, not the club. I can't see that happening anytime soon.

[Member #4347]

In the end it is all a matter of taste. About other FKK clubs some of you may actually have more experience than I have. I have had both bad and great experiences with Romanians, Germans, Russians, Latina women etc. And for me the whole nationality talk is just a a lack of experience and sometimes just a matter of personal tastes again. Also we as men and mongers are all of different nations, ethnicities, sizes and we know we have different tastes and wishes. Despite all that our highly subjective reports may be beneficial to read for others. I have been with hundreds of women and what I have learned may help me to advise other men but I would never be arrogant and judge both women or other guys to the extent that I really know who is good for whom. What I have learned is mostly understanding my own tastes and my own approach and how to understand in the early stages of an interaction what I like and what I don't like.

I believe there are some points we can establish as facts such as that Artemis is one of the biggest FKK clubs in Germany and there is no competition in Berlin until now and the entrance fee is quite expensive compared to other German FKKs and that the quality of the food is below standard and that in Artemis you will find more girls with silicone boobs than elsewhere and that most if not all of the girls are professionals who have worked in other clubs, brothels or as escorts before starting to work at Artemis. Also the mix of different nationalities is more diverse than at other clubs this size in Germany while both Germans and Romanians seem to be forming the biggest groups. I am quite sure that most of the regular and frequent Artemis mongers would agree with me about what I have just said.

However comparing Artemis to the more expensive Berlin brothels like Kamilla Dee, Van Kampen, Royal, Liberty etc. Is more difficult because the concept, the price structure and the facilities are different. I have know all of the mentioned brothels and more for years and since they are all have in a similar price range and they are all among the higher class brothels we have in Berlin it makes sense to compare them. I will not go into details because I don't think we should do that in the Artemis thread however Van Kampen has declined a lot concerning the quality of the women concerning both looks and service. Liberty too is a big and beautiful place but I wasn't very enthusiastic about the lineup recently. Royal has at least a few stunners but still seems a little overpriced for the kind of standard service you get. Kamilla is among the brothels who have an excellent reputation concerning the atmosphere and the women being relaxed and the administration being both fair to the customer and to the girls.

But with all the experiences I have for me there is nothing better than Artemis right now. I understand if you are a first time visitor or if you can only be there once a year and then you get frustrated because you paid a lot of cash without finding your type of girl I really sympathize. But as a man who knows his own tastes I am happy to say I have had mostly good and sometimes unforgettable experiences at this place.

Happy anniversary for everyone who will be attending tomorrow.

Diplomat

[Kimino]

Thanks Kimino! I plan to return to Artemis regardless of what the others say. My only knock on Artemis is the amount of smoke that fills the main bar area. Sometimes, I need to retreat to the downstairs bar for some fresh air, or outside to the new rooms. They need to build a new heated waiting area during the cold months. Non-smoking of course.

The only brothel I was wanting to try was Liberty, since they had the gyno chair and the swing. I have always wanted to try that. Do you recommend any of the girls there? I wonder if Artemis can setup a room like that for a small premium fee?

FiddyCent.

I like Liberty quite a lot. Don't know a thing about the chair, though.

I had great sessions with a german girl called Chris. Late twenties, tatoos, kind of pornstar look, a pro. Also had a threesome with a friend of her. Search the Berlin thread I must have filed a report.

Cheers.

Kimino.

[FiddyCent]

Same here, and I don't feel Artemis has declined.

Been visiting VK, Royal, Liberty, KD, Prestige, Tiffany, Monrouge, Odette and all the rest of the bunch ad nauseam. "Higher standards" girls working there? Not in my records. Better service happening there? Not in my records. It's hit and miss exactly like in Artemis or anywhere else.

It's a taste thing, period. Some like to relax and hang around for hours grabbing a girl now and then, Artemis is their choice. Some don't give a fuck about hanging around and prefer cruising a few clubs looking for the right girl, bothels are the choice. And this preferences change over time, at least for me.

Regarding the other FKK clubs, same story. Never liked Oase, still so many people reporting the place to be heaven (at least in the past). Always had fun and never went through hard upselling in Palace, while keeping reading horror stories about the place. Mainhattan, Paradise, Cola, all clubs in Koln area, same story. Still missing NRW for laziness and lack of enthusiasm. LOL.

What I learned is to take other's opinions for what they are and go see the places for myself, then decide.

My 2 cents.

Kimino.

Thanks Kimino! I plan to return to Artemis regardless of what the others say. My only knock on Artemis is the amount of smoke that fills the main bar area. Sometimes, I need to retreat to the downstairs bar for some fresh air, or outside to the new rooms. They need to build a new heated waiting area during the cold months. Non-smoking of course.

The only brothel I was wanting to try was Liberty, since they had the gyno chair and the swing. I have always wanted to try that. Do you recommend any of the girls there? I wonder if Artemis can setup a room like that for a small premium fee?

FiddyCent.

[Kimino]

Hey PussyLiccker.

Personally, I never considered brothels like Royal, KD, and Van Kampen to be in the same league, although the girls may be of higher standards. It is the entire package that makes FKK experience complete. For the record, I have tried Royal and it was OK, but the selection there at the time I visited was not that impressive. Service levels were about the same. The only thing I enjoyed was the mutual shower after sex.

FiddyCent.

Same here, and I don't feel Artemis has declined.

Been visiting VK, Royal, Liberty, KD, Prestige, Tiffany, Monrouge, Odette and all the rest of the bunch ad nauseam. "Higher standards" girls working there? Not in my records. Better service happening there? Not in my records. It's hit and miss exactly like in Artemis or anywhere else.

It's a taste thing, period. Some like to relax and hang around for hours grabbing a girl now and then, Artemis is their choice. Some don't give a fuck about hanging around and prefer cruising a few clubs looking for the right girl, bothels are the choice. And this preferences change over time, at least for me.

Regarding the other FKK clubs, same story. Never liked Oase, still so many people reporting the place to be heaven (at least in the past). Always had fun and never went through hard upselling in Palace, while keeping reading horror stories about the place. Mainhattan, Paradise, Cola, all clubs in Koln area, same story. Still missing NRW for laziness and lack of enthusiasm. LOL.

What I learned is to take other's opinions for what they are and go see the places for myself, then decide.

My 2 cents.

Kimino.

[FiddyCent]

My visits there lately has been pretty average. I remember when it was better two years ago. It's more similar to a Frankfurt clubs with higher session fee. Maybe attracts some Germans and upsellers compared to other clubs I've attended. If in Berlin, definately worth it. If no reason to be there, couple other areas of Germany comes to mind that have more options with number of clubs in the area.

Hey PussyLiccker.

It is sad to hear that Artemis has declined. I thought the place was OK, especially after the expansion. The new rooms and the number of beautiful girls there made the club a good place to visit. Of course, it does not compare to the clubs in the Hessen area, but it is the only gig in town and with little competition with this type setup. There is supposed to be another club opening up soon. Maybe that will create some worthy competition. Personally, I never considered brothels like Royal, KD, and Van Kampen to be in the same league, although the girls may be of higher standards. It is the entire package that makes FKK experience complete. For the record, I have tried Royal and it was OK, but the selection there at the time I visited was not that impressive. Service levels were about the same. The only thing I enjoyed was the mutual shower after sex.

FiddyCent.

[PussyLiccker]

There are plenty of nice Romanians. Don't know if the clubs you have been atttending has the thugish ones. Try NRW if you looking for the new young not thugish ones. I've met some nice Romanians even at Oase my last trip, but that was during Messe when it attacts girls from other clubs. I noticed newer younger girls though. Franfurt and Art is more business like when it comes to girl's approaches. Lots more upselling because of the price structure.

[Pistons]

Ha! I didn't know that the Moldova thing was a line. So I guess that the Romanian girls have figured out that they are getting a reputation.

Oh yes, haha!

They are probably reading everything we write in here. Although most of the wg's only reads the German forum.

I have to say though that some of the nicest girls I know are Romanians. It only really gets bad when they start forming gangs. Then some of them always start telling the other girls in the same gang what not to do. Normally it is the uglier girls who start it out so that the lookers will get a bad sharky reputation. Because the ugly ones are just lying to the pretty ones. Or something along those lines. There are basically no friends for them at the FKK's, and a lot of the younger Romanians gets dragged into those gangs and brought up the same way. When they realise the bad service thingy is a scam by their 'friends', they improve, yet they still tell their friends how stringent they still are.

It is all ONLY due to the reputation among the rest of the girls. And they lie and lie and lie to each other. The smart ones have fortunately figured this out though, because they all know they will make more money if they give a good service. The scam they tell their 'friends' about is so that they will get the customers who normally would pick their friends. But because of that it can sometimes be wise not to write anywhere or tell anyone that a girl gives good service. Sad but true.

[PussyLiccker]

My visits there lately has been pretty average. I remember when it was better two years ago. It's more similar to a Frankfurt clubs with higher session fee. Maybe attracts some Germans and upsellers compared to other clubs I've attended. If in Berlin, definately worth it. If no reason to be there, couple other areas of Germany comes to mind that have more options with number of clubs in the area.

[Manny51]

Hehe, its funny how this needs to be said again and again. But I have yet to meet a Moldovan girl in an FKK. They are however all from Moldavia, a big region in Romania next to Moldova. In my mind the prettiest Romanians are from that region, so it is understandable that they point it out perhaps.

Ha! I didn't know that the Moldova thing was a line. So I guess that the Romanian girls have figured out that they are getting a reputation.

[Manny51]

Hey Manny.

Perhaps King George suits you better. 79 Euro entry and all the booze you can drink. You buy KG dollars and give to the strippers before taking them to the back rooms. Other than Artemis, what other clubs do you suggest?

FiddyCent.

On this forum, Bobo has been a big proponent of the bordellos, and I agree. Royal, Kamilla Dee, and Van Kampen are all in the same part area, SE part of Zone A. Bobo has tried to start a separate section of the Germany forums, but it hasn't taken off. That's too bad. If you have not read about them on the forums, google them. They come up right away.

Its not that I don't like FKKs. I think highly of Oase and Globe, and even liked Sakura in Stuttgart recently. But Artemis is very average, especially given the prices. Read this forum back just a few pages. You'll see others who think the same. You may like it, and that's fine.

[PussyLiccker]

Hey Manny.

Perhaps King George suits you better. 79 Euro entry and all the booze you can drink. You buy KG dollars and give to the strippers before taking them to the back rooms. Other than Artemis, what other clubs do you suggest?

FiddyCent.

Fook no. Stay away. Was there 2 years ago. Like 4 girls(not really, 1 girl, and 3 mams) there and only 1 young decent looking one that wanted to give me bad 2 sessions. Others, I just could not get myself to do with only 2 beers. Needed hard liquor for them. Probably not even after hard booze.

[FiddyCent]

I visited Artemis on a Thursday recently, and I have to say, I was very underwhelmed.

Others have accurately pointed out that there were relatively less Romanians there compared to other FKKs. There are more Germans, and for some reason, a good number of Moldovans. But unfortunately, that doesn't change the attitude. It felt like a lame USA strip club, where women come up to you and ask, "Do you want a lap dance?" If you say no, they walk away, with the smile they first showed you disappearing like a fart in the wind. And that was just the attitude. In terms of looks, the women were nothing special. I didn't find a single woman charming. I did not session once the whole evening.

On top of that, the facilities are unimpressive. The food was terrible. And most importantly, the booze was WAY overpriced. 10 euro for a beer? Thats $13 us dollars for ONE beer. That's insane. If you like a little buzz while hanging in an FKK, drink BEFORE you get there. Have a few beers before you leave the hotel, because Artemis is in a freeway zone. There is NOTHING around it.

It reminded me of FKK Goldentime in Vienna. Extremely forgettable, but overpriced and overhyped because there is no other good FKK in the area.

Just my two cents. Maybe you may go and like it, but it was definitely not my cup of tea. There are better options in Berlin.

Hey Manny.

Perhaps King George suits you better. 79 Euro entry and all the booze you can drink. You buy KG dollars and give to the strippers before taking them to the back rooms. Other than Artemis, what other clubs do you suggest?

FiddyCent.

[KaveMan]

I visited Artemis on a Thursday recently, and I have to say, I was very underwhelmed.

Others have accurately pointed out that there were relatively less Romanians there compared to other FKKs. There are more Germans, and for some reason, a good number of Moldovans. But unfortunately, that doesn't change the attitude. It felt like a lame USA strip club, where women come up to you and ask, "Do you want a lap dance?" If you say no, they walk away, with the smile they first showed you disappearing like a fart in the wind. And that was just the attitude. In terms of looks, the women were nothing special. I didn't find a single woman charming. I did not session once the whole evening.

On top of that, the facilities are unimpressive. The food was terrible. And most importantly, the booze was WAY overpriced. 10 euro for a beer? Thats $13 us dollars for ONE beer. That's insane. If you like a little buzz while hanging in an FKK, drink BEFORE you get there. Have a few beers before you leave the hotel, because Artemis is in a freeway zone. There is NOTHING around it.

It reminded me of FKK Goldentime in Vienna. Extremely forgettable, but overpriced and overhyped because there is no other good FKK in the area.

Just my two cents. Maybe you may go and like it, but it was definitely not my cup of tea. There are better options in Berlin.

Stunning. People rave about how FKKs are chock full of stunners, spinners and 9-10's and then you have a post like this.

I realize it can be an off day. But if you read the FKK reviews (even in Frankfurt) you will often see this type of post.

I can't see how a Club can be like the Playboy Mansion or Met-Art quality babes (18-20's) then a lame USA strip club in same month?

Something is definitely lost in translation German / English.

[Pistons]

Hehe, its funny how this needs to be said again and again. But I have yet to meet a Moldovan girl in an FKK. They are however all from Moldavia, a big region in Romania next to Moldova. In my mind the prettiest Romanians are from that region, so it is understandable that they point it out perhaps.