Hong Kong Club Reports

[BlkDave]

Mark, p. Greg. M.

They pretty much took a shit on my 2nd favorite club (playboy being 1st). Anyways I got a theory about this. Either they are gay and was forced to go the HK, or couldn't find the tranny streets that they so desired! Or they are chics with guy avatars. Any way it goes down we need to keep the hit counter hovering around 1-2 stars to throw off the misses / wives.

Agree or disagree?

Oh and I have had a HK VIP card since they started them and was $50 for 6 months! Greedy bastards, LOL.

[Golda Meir]

I was there yesterday (Saturday) and there was a girl dancing on both small stage and then the main stage. She has a great ass / legs, long natural hair (as opposed to.

Extentions). Her face isn't that attractive. I invited her for a drink and then possibly more but she gets to the table and has ZERO personality and orders water. WTF? I ask how much to go arriba and she says $100. I have to say I am a pretty good looking guy (at least I think and usually score at the most $70 for the hottest of the hot. I try to bargain to $80 but she was stuck on $100. She didn't even finish her water and I sent her away. What a waste!

I've seen her too. She's a waste of time.

[Hobbiest1]

I was there yesterday (Saturday) and there was a girl dancing on both small stage and then the main stage. She has a great ass / legs, long natural hair (as opposed to.

Extentions). Her face isn't that attractive. I invited her for a drink and then possibly more but she gets to the table and has ZERO personality and orders water. WTF? I ask how much to go arriba and she says $100. I have to say I am a pretty good looking guy (at least I think and usually score at the most $70 for the hottest of the hot. I try to bargain to $80 but she was stuck on $100. She didn't even finish her water and I sent her away. What a waste!

[HorseTrader]

Hi all,

I'm planning a couple of trips that may not involve overnight stays. I am interested in the VIP card but have not been able to find anyone on here that has it and uses it.

I think most of the HK regulars have it. For the way I use it, a 2 or 3 day stay is just about the break even point. The HK website should tell the specific benefits. For me, the key things are:

* Free first drink each day. Save about $4 per day.

* Longer time in short term rooms (I think non-VIPs get 30 minutes but VIPs get 45 minutes).

* Limo to border. Save about $5 per trip to USA. I tip the limo driver much better than I tip the cab driver, so, it really doesn't save me that whole $5.

* 20% discount in Cascadas rooms for overnight stay. Save about $10+ per day. Save more if you get something better than the standard room.

* In and out without buying a beer at the door (weekend evenings). This is important to me because I tend to wander from place to place.

The other VIP benefits are meaningless to me.

[Guitarrefreak]

Hi all,

I'm planning a couple of trips that may not involve overnight stays. I am interested in the VIP card but have not been able to find anyone on here that has it and uses it.

I am planning 2-3 nights between HK and Adelitas. So not sure if VIP for a Sunday-Wednesday time frame is needed or worth it.

Please share any benefits you can fill me in on!

Thanks,

Dan

HK vip card will do you no good for adelitas.

For hk, if you plan to be there on weekend and coming in / out, it will save you a lot of money / hassle for buying that entrance drink.

Another thing to attempt is to become a super high regular / rolla' but that's is going to cost you more than the card.

If you do plan on taking MANY chicas for short time, then using the card may be of benefit because of the extra 15 minutes each time you get.

But honestly, at one point you just stop keeping track.

Another benefit is the to / fro border limo ride. But not many people use it from border, and it doesn't sound like you are going to border during that period, so nothing worthwhile there.

In short. If you are only planning that one single visit, then the only benefit is the in / out privileges from the club without having to buy those fucking door drinks.

[AvailableForMe]

Hi all,

I'm planning a couple of trips that may not involve overnight stays. I am interested in the VIP card but have not been able to find anyone on here that has it and uses it.

I am planning 2-3 nights between HK and Adelitas. So not sure if VIP for a Sunday-Wednesday time frame is needed or worth it.

Please share any benefits you can fill me in on!

Thanks,

Dan

[Jackie888]

Very nice report, thanks for taking the time to write it.

I've noticed the same thing with the loud music at HK. My hypothesis is that it is just as loud as clubs that cause ear pain, but, the HK sound system is so good that it doesn't distort the music. Music can be much louder if it is distortion free. If the music volume bothers you, try going to a place where the ceiling above your seat is lower, that seems to help a little bit. On the north end of the building, that would be on the west side. Or, on the south end of the building, that would be on the east side.

I also don't have a problem with the meseros. Just a "no thank you" has always been enough to get them to move along. I don't understand why so many customers get upset with the meseros. It does feel a little odd to have one of them follow you around just after you enter.

They're fine if I sit alone. The moment I sit with a girl, they hover like vultures and constantly interrupt my privacy. It was so bad that a girl had to ask me whether the waiters were bothering me because they were bothering her. I won't even mention taking off running with my change or trying to drop off a bag of chips.

Anyways, I'm limiting my tips to 10 pesos a drink from now on.

[TomJackin]

I haven't been to HK for years but last time I was there a good place to find available and affordable girls after midnight was Shanghai Road in Kowloon. HK can be extremely expensive so if you wish some sex for a few hundred HK-dollars I recommend you this place. Most of the girls are Chinese from the mainland. I've had both good and bad experiences there. It all depends on the girl and the better looking the more attitude of course.

You are truly eating big ass in the wrong country!

[Guitarrefreak]

I haven't been to HK for years but last time I was there a good place to find available and affordable girls after midnight was Shanghai Road in Kowloon. HK can be extremely expensive so if you wish some sex for a few hundred HK-dollars I recommend you this place. Most of the girls are Chinese from the mainland. I've had both good and bad experiences there. It all depends on the girl and the better looking the more attitude of course.

You sir. Must be lost.

[Smuler]

No girls ever grabbed my arm in an attempt to physically stop me to force interaction with me and no girls ever jumped in front of me to block my path

A sure " Oase " move LOL.

Best Regards.

Smuler

[HorseTrader]

From reading the reports here, I thought the music would be so loud as to require ear plugs, the kind of loudness that would cause hearing damage, but this was not the case. Yes, the music was loud, but not intolerable or unbearable -- for me anyways.

The other thing I learned was that the Meseros weren't as annoying as I thought they would be from all the reports here. Completely ignoring them turned out to be an effective strategy for me.

Very nice report, thanks for taking the time to write it.

I've noticed the same thing with the loud music at HK. My hypothesis is that it is just as loud as clubs that cause ear pain, but, the HK sound system is so good that it doesn't distort the music. Music can be much louder if it is distortion free. If the music volume bothers you, try going to a place where the ceiling above your seat is lower, that seems to help a little bit. On the north end of the building, that would be on the west side. Or, on the south end of the building, that would be on the east side.

I also don't have a problem with the meseros. Just a "no thank you" has always been enough to get them to move along. I don't understand why so many customers get upset with the meseros. It does feel a little odd to have one of them follow you around just after you enter.

[D Cups]

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1630510. Most of my mongering has been in Europe. Recently, I decided to give Tijuana a try. Nice report, UH. I have been to Tijuana many times but usually not overnight. Now I know where to stay overnight.

[UltraHappy]

ABOUT ME.

Most of my mongering has been in Europe. Recently, I decided to give Tijuana a try. I was kind of hesitant since Latinas aren't really my thing. Instead, I tend to go more for the Eastern European chicks. They drive me crazy! In any case, given that Tijuana is a lot closer for me than Europe and the airfares there are a lot cheaper, I figured I'd head out to Mexico for an extended weekend and check out the scene. My favorite girls are the thin, petite, spinner types, usually 18-22.

CHICAS AND CHICA PRICING.

There were tons and tons of girls with great bodies but also lots of girls who were a little too heavy. My problem was finding the girls who had both a great body (for me, thin) and a great face that wasn't too Latina looking. I ended up finding girls I was happy with, but in the end, my selection was fairly limited.

I have to admit that I was a little unsure of what prices I would have to pay at Hong Kong, even after reading all the reports here in the forum. One thing I can positively report on is that I did not see evidence of a minimum $80 cartel in effect. It seems that the $80 price is just a starting asking point for many girls. In fact, I was sort of thrown off by the first girl I approached when she quoted me $60 for half an hour or $100 for an hour, as that was much less than what I was expecting from reading the reports here. And this girl was the hottest girl in the club when I arrived on Friday afternoon (Brenda, blond, 28 years old, half American). As it turns out, her service was pretty bad. She seemed like she didn't know what she was doing. In any case, you might not see her there when you visit the club since she is only working a few weekends (Friday, Saturday, and Sundays) to make a specific purchase goal. The great thing about her is that she speaks perfect English as she lives in San Diego where she grew up. Her husband travels a lot for his job, so we visitors to Mexico benefit from his frequent absences.

After awhile, I decided that I liked taking the girls to the room for an hour instead of just a half hour, so I decided to negotiate 1 hour prices and not even bother trying to negotiate half hour prices. This way, I would be assured a lower rate per half hour.

In my case, I simply offered 1500 pesos per hour to girls I approached. I suspect I overpaid because all of the girls I suggested this to immediately accepted my offer without hesitation. Before you castigate me for overpaying, know this. There's not a whole lot of info here on the board about typical 1 hour pricing. Also, I was in a different situation most other visitors to the Hong Kong club. Since Latina girls aren't really my type to begin with, there were only 2-4 girls in the entire club I was willing to go to the room with (for example, 3 girls acceptable to me on Friday and a total of maybe 4 on Saturday). So, my options were fairly limited, so if these few girls turned me down, I would have had no other alternatives available to me.

FIRST IMPRESSIONS.

From reading the reports here, I thought the music would be so loud as to require ear plugs, the kind of loudness that would cause hearing damage, but this was not the case. Yes, the music was loud, but not intolerable or unbearable -- for me anyways.

The other thing I learned was that the Meseros weren't as annoying as I thought they would be from all the reports here. Completely ignoring them turned out to be an effective strategy for me.

From reading the reports here, I also imagined the girls being more aggressive, but the girls were not aggressive in their approaches at all. Indeed, I've experienced much worse in German FKKs when business was slow and the girls were desperate. Here in Hong Kong, I only experienced girls smiling at me and very occasionally, a girl who brushed my arm as I walked past. No girls ever grabbed my arm in an attempt to physically stop me to force interaction with me and no girls ever jumped in front of me to block my path (as I've experienced in other P4 P locales). So, all in all, I have to say that the girls were all well behaved, at least in their approaches.

As reported many times, Saturday night about 10 pm got really packed -- the place was elbow to elbow guys. What really struck me though was the availability of girls there in the club even with all of those guys. There were still tons and tons of girls available to be picked up even with all of those guys. I suspect that many of the guys there just go to drink and look at the girls and don't go arriba with them. If there were that many guys in a German FKK, you can bet there wouldn't be a single girl left in the club -- they'd all be busy in the rooms!

I found the service levels at Hong Kong to be adequate but lower than what I tend to experience in the German FKKs I typically frequent. In Germany, BBBJ is standard. In Tijuana, CBJ is standard. Even taking away the covered aspect, the oral skills of the girls I went with in Tijuana simply didn't compare to the oral bliss I typically experience in Europe. Since my Spanish isn't that great, I really didn'thave the Spanish faculties to properly train these young girls. In the end, I would get frustrated with their lack of oral skills and just decided to simply enjoy fucking them over and over, again and again, which turned out to be quite enjoyable.

Another disadvantage of Tijuana compared to the FKKs is that it is easy to get surprised in the room with a girl whose body clearly shows the tolls of motherhood. In the FKKs, the girls are completely nude to start with, so there are generally no surprises in the room.

ACCOMMODATIONS.

I booked the Master Jacuzzi Suite at Hotel Cascadas. Ended up in room 429. The room was actually quiet and I couldn't hear any of the club music in my room at all, so that was good. But there was a band playing at times outside in front of the hotel and they were so loud that they were definitely audible in my room. Luckily, the band was gone late at night. All the girls who visited my suite seemed suitably impressed. They would all remark about the difference between my suite and the other rooms. The room itself was kind of cheesy. I don't think I would ever book it again. If I go again, I will simply book the Deluxe Single or Deluxe Double room. If you are considering staying at Hotel Cascadas, be sure to read my Hotel Cascadas SCAM report, available here: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...367&viewfull=1#post1627367.

I did not use my hotel Cascadas room for sleeping. Instead, I booked a room at Hotel Ticuan.

HOTEL TICUAN.

Very nice hotel, but when booking at this hotel, you absolutely MUST remember to request a QUIET room on the Constitution Road side of the hotel. Ticuan hotel is right next to an extremely loud nightclub that plays incredibly loud music all night long, every single night. Luckily, I always bring ear plugs with me. The ear plugs combined with a sleeping pill did the trick for me. But I would never stay at this hotel again if I had to be in one of their loud rooms. Apart from that part of my experience, I found the hotel to be quite nice and I was pleased with my accommodations and their customer service.

EATING.

My favorite eating place was across the street from Hong Kong, about 150 feet down the street, Sonoro's Grill and Subs. In fact, this is where I ate almost all my meals. Tasty and cheap. I particularly liked their Carne Asadas tacos (3). Good prices. I even liked their cheeseburger and fries.

OTHER CLUBS.

I walked through the neighboring clubs several times throughout both days of my visits (Tropical and Adelitas). In my quick walk throughs of both clubs, I never saw anyone in either club who really interested me.

THE STREET BEHIND Hong Kong.

I walked a few times up and down the street behind Hong Kong Club. Apparently, that's where all the independent street girls line up outside trying to entice folks. I never saw anyone truly compelling out there either. It was kind of funny that many of the girls would make a "shee-shee" sound as I passed, trying to get my attention. A couple brave ones tried to brush my arm as I walked by in a further attempt to get my attention.

THE VIP CARD.

The VIP card was well worth it to me, both for my room discount and also because I went in and out of the club dozens of time both days I visited. The VIP card also enabled me to skip the line where you get frisked. They never tried to frisk me, since they don't seem to frisk VIP card holders.

SAN DIEGO TO TIJUANA AND BACK.

I took the Blue Line Trolley, each way a whopping $2. 50 one-way ticket. Total time between the trolley stop closest to the airport down to the border only takes 46 minutes. When I returned to go to the airport, Google Maps told me which bus to take to get from the trolley station to the airport, so I didn't even have to bother with a taxi. Bus fare was a whopping $2. 25. In my cases, I found the trolleys and buses to show up on time according to the time table in Google Maps.

BORDER CROSSING.

I returned to the border on Sunday around 9:30 am. The general pedestrian public line was enormous and didn't seem to be moving at all. Who knows how many hours that line would have taken. As a Global Entry member, I have a border crossing card that they give you when you enter Global Entry that allows us to use the Sentri lanes. I recommend not going to Tijuana without having access to the Sentri lanes.

At the back of the pedestrian line, the general public line overflows into the expedited Sentri line. So, if you were to pay attention to the signs and get in the pedestrian lanes, you would actually be standing behind everyone in the general public lane. The mass of people there is so great that you can't really move past them to get to the Sentri lane. So what you have to do is walk against the flow of people walking the other way to get into Mexico like a salmon until you get to the front of the line and there, you will be able to actually get into the Sentri lane. At 9:30 am, there were only 2 people in front of me, but the lady handling our lane was MIA, probably on a break or something. So, we waited another 10 minutes until she returned.

The border officer was asking me lots of questions but as soon as she discovered that I was on my way to the San Diego International Airport, she suddenly seemed satisfied and immediately stopped questioning me and let me through. I suspect that they give you less scrutiny if they think you're on the way to the airport since the border officer presumes that you will be subjected to stringent airport security at the airport anyways, so it's less likely that you're trying to smuggle something back into the States. So, if you're traveling by air upon returning to the States, it might make sense to offer this information up first when the border officer is asking you all those questions about where you're going, etc.

Border Officer: Where are you going?

Me: To the United States -- isn't this obvious?

THE HOTEL CASCADAS SCAM!

But above all, don't forget to read my Hotel Cascadas SCAM report, available here: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...367&viewfull=1#post1627367.

[SushiLover69]

If you know the area, 5 Peso will get you from the border (lines) to Revolution or Consitution just three block south of Zona Norta (RLD). Stay to the left after crossing the border and look for the blue and white buses. Use only in the day time. Some time wait can be around 10 minutes than just take the white cab for $3 to Downtown or $5 to HK area.

The yellow and white buses will take you to First and Constitution for 5 pesos, 2 blocks closer. They are right next to the blue and white ones.

[Cool]

Years ago, Adelitas started to use the "early knock," kicking us out in 20 minutes thereby ripping us off because we paid for 30 minutes. Because I refuse to be treated like a Monkey, I refused to use Adelitas ever since.

It's been about 5 years. Are they still knocking at the 20 minute mark?

Depends on the chica and how brisk business is and whether it's the weekend. Some chica are in cahoots with hotel lobby staff.