FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Member #4581]

I made a comment about this song with lyrics that go "John Doe. Once you put your drinks on hold. John doe".

It had a moderately catchy tune I admit, but man, they kept playing that song repeatedly. In my 6 hours or so in Artemis on that night, they played it at least 20 times, may be more.

Ok, so I probably jumped in something that started in the past.

Anyways, don't know what the music argument was about, but IMHO the music right know is shit. At the time they would put some mainstream EDM at least in the night, at decent volumes. Nothing fantastic but at least club music that would keep you awake. In the last months the music has begun to be be really boring and tasteless.

I'm probably alone in this.

Kimino.

[Marine One]

I saw a few girls I recognise from the past including Gabizca (HUN), Mary (BUL), Martina (BUL), NINA (CZE) & Sophie (GRE / BUL), but the vast majority of the girls were new to me.

Ella (RUS), well known to almost everybody here I imagine.

Suzanna (HUN), late 20's, 5'8', slim, small natural titties, angular Slavic features

Interesting report! Does this mean that most of the girls in Artemis are EE (but not many Romanians)? Years ago around 2008 I went there and was blown away by the number of beautiful blondes, I thought I was in heaven! But later around 2010 there were hardly any EE girls and a lot of darker ones, with some Romanians thrown in. Are things swinging back to the 2008 type crowd?

[AltimaTravels]

Many thanks Kimino and indeed everybody else who have posted on the subject. I think that it does this Forum credit that we can exchange views, agree and disagree without it becoming a war of words.

My final word on the weekend. Can any anybody remind of the name of the Thai girl I saw? Prettiest of the current Thai bunch, great figure, quite a wide face with very slanted eyes, she could be Korea, was wearing a little black dress at the party. Cammy? Catty?

[Kimino]

If I was concerned about my privacy, I would probably not work in an FKK in the first place. LOL.

This said, I'm generally not interested in the sexual details and very rarely give them in my reports. I also won't report things that I talk about with girls in the room if it's even vaguely private, obviously. Whatever happens in the public areas of the club, can't be seen as private in any way so if someone feels like it's somethng that could be of general interest and reports it, there's nothing wrong and might be usefull.

I personally skip through very long and detailed reports, let alone when they are filled up with psicological stuff. YMMV rulez, so I'm really not interested in that kind of stuff. But again, that's personal.

I know some people like to write details and some like to read them, so as long as it's done with good taste it doesn't diturb. If it does, I simply skip it. Not a big deal.

Regarding Altima's report (that I didn't read before and wish I did), I find it absolutely ok and the kind of report I'm interested in and that I would read. Gave the feeling of what was going on, short enough, good taste, a nice report. I don't understand how all this fuss started.

Kimino.

[Manny51]

Hi AltimaTravels.

But reporting about who was drunk and who cried and naming NAMES so that the whole world knows is something we really should not do. I know the women you mentioned and I do like and respect them a lot. But even if I didn't know them I would never want to put their feelings or their grief on public display. They are professionals but they are still human beings. I am sure you are an educated and respectful man so please grant those women the respect they deserve.

Diplomat.

No one is trying to be a jerk here, and reveal private information or embarass someone. But don't you think its a little ironic that you are defending the proposition of being chivalrous and not repeating that you saw a certain lady crying. But you ARE ok discussing whether she takes cocks up her ass, sucks dicks without a condom, or lets you cum on her face.

Have a little perspective. You, and everyone here is a punter. Unless someone is being a complete jerk, taking the moral high ground is a little hypocritical.

[Kimino]

Glad you have the sense of humor to take up cudgels on his behalf. Anyway, in my view, missile baby is happy to dish dirt to others but quick to cry foul when some one calls him on it. A few months ago, I wrote a lengthy report after visiting Artemis, and HE attacked me in a very personal way simply because I said something about the music being played in Artemis. I guess I must have offended his pompous, er pimp us sensibilities.

Ok, so I probably jumped in something that started in the past.

Anyways, don't know what the music argument was about, but IMHO the music right know is shit. At the time they would put some mainstream EDM at least in the night, at decent volumes. Nothing fantastic but at least club music that would keep you awake. In the last months the music has begun to be be really boring and tasteless.

I'm probably alone in this.

Kimino.

[Syzygies]

I have no problem admitting that in a way I stand alone with something that I really found important and I felt I had to point it out the way I did.

Nearly all of you argued in favor of reporting all of which Altima reported. Many of you argued along the line 'privacy is what I am told in private vs. What everyone can see in public can be reported without hesitation'.

I am not taking a side fully one way or the other, however I would point out the forum is full of non-diplomats, and little thought about the girl before posting. I will write that a girl was crap in the room, if she clearly did not try, and name her, or that she had bad smoker's breath. Some guys will even write stuff like the girl looked like she was a drug addict, which is grossly unfair to a girl who just looks a little unusual, was tired, or too slim. Then there is stuff about the "bullshit sob stories" told by girls, who never told me anything of the sort.

So worse than the non-diplomatic types, which are fairly normal, are the complete assholes on the forum. Not much can be done about it. I don't think they will get censored. However I can understand you want to put your point of view. I am not sure its so bad to write that girls are partying and like to get drunk, as long as its actually true. That a girl was crying and makeup smudged is not exactly assassinating her character. Many far worse things have been written about girls, that were far more unfair and unjustified.

If a 100 guys at the club saw a girl doing something, and reporting on the forum just makes a slightly larger audience aware, no great crime there, as along as the report is factually accurate and does not proceed to unfair assumptions.

[Member #4581]

Glad you have the sense of humor to take up cudgels on his behalf. Anyway, in my view, missile baby is happy to dish dirt to others but quick to cry foul when some one calls him on it. A few months ago, I wrote a lengthy report after visiting Artemis, and HE attacked me in a very personal way simply because I said something about the music being played in Artemis. I guess I must have offended his pompous, er pimp us sensibilities.

And is there anything more sad than a complete lack of sense of humour?

Come on guys, lets cut this crap and back to reports.

Kimino.

[Charlie 123]

No more for me to say on the subject.
Diplomat

P.S. I don't know why 'he' in my post always appears in captial letters. Its not intended and I tried to correct it.

Not much more for me to say either, other than I believe that most of us have as much empathy for the girls and their sensitivities as you, it's just a question of where one draws the line in the sand.

I also had a problem today in my earlier reports with the word HE. As a poker player, HE is an anacronym I write a lot in reference to 'Hold them', and I assumed that the auto-correct facility on my laptop had clicked in each time I wrote the word. I had to manually edit it 14 times to get it right. I guess that it must instead be some glitch in the software on this website.

C123.

[Member #4347]

Being still focused on starting with a pornstar look girl, grabbed Zoe. Easy to spot, long red hair, she just changed color a bit and it's now a bit more purple. Lots of tattoos (pistols around the pussy, "puta" on the back, a brand new one on the back). Walks around a lot or sits and hangs around in German Sofa Group 2.0 area, just after the sliding door, on the left. Last time I've been with her it was about one and half year ago. Zoe is a nice girl, if you like her look, gives solid service, a pro. Still, it's kind of difficult for me to get some real contact with german girls in general, and she is not different. Had a 30 min session + extra. I enjoyed it but probably won't repeat any soon.

Hi Kimino, I have always liked Zoe / Szoey and to me her body is among the hottest at Artemis. One of my favorites but still I know what you mean about that it might be hard getting a little closer, even for a German. Her tattoos are not really my taste but ofc they don't have to be and I sometimes overlook these things when I find a woman highly attractive. She is quite athletic and the experience can get better when someone is prepared to book her for 60 minutes. However booking her again it always depends on my mood and who is else is present among the girls.

Cheers.

Diplomat.

[Member #4347]

I have no problem admitting that in a way I stand alone with something that I really found important and I felt I had to point it out the way I did.

Nearly all of you argued in favor of reporting all of which Altima reported. Many of you argued along the line 'privacy is what I am told in private vs. What everyone can see in public can be reported without hesitation'.

It makes sense. In fact many of your points make sense. BTW, I am not altruistic myself and I know the forum is for exchanging information about the subject at hand. I am not Mother Theresa guys.

Many of you went at great length to get into some theoretical argument, nearly academic, as if a woman's tears were a matter of the law.

What most of you failed to do was at least to TRY to understand the perspective of the women involved. We are already exposing a lot about them and also about our encounters with them, myself included. You can be sure most of them don't like it. But then again I know we pay for it and we want to know who is good and who isn't and who we might have a great chemistry with and with whom we wouldn't.

The internet makes it easy for us to reduce all that to a few 'facts' and 'observations' and we don't have to think about how it feels for the women because while THEY can be identified we most of the time CAN NOT. We feel so secure because even though they may read it will be difficult to point the finger at us. It may be unlikely that they will have the opportunity to slap your face or to send their pimp to beat you up. Especially for those who are here once a year maybe there is no reason to think about such things.

About Altima's report it may sound surprising but I liked it a lot and I did not critizise his style of writing. On the contrary I found it quite interesting and I am also sure HE knows both the place and the people involved well. In fact if Altima had written about a drunken pro and one who had a weak moment and maybe there were tears even then I would never have mentioned it. I only felt the need to speak out because HE had to mention their NAMES. And Charlie I am sure someone with Kimino's experience and instincts knows who or what HE will do even if it this little situation had not been reported.

I respect Altima's response and I also see all the valid arguments that others made and I know everybody will either be annoyed by what I say or being ready to move on. I too want to move on.

But for me, if someone cries or is having a weak moment I will try to be a gentleman and I will surely not report it in a forum for anonymous punters among hundreds and thousands of people. No theoretical argument can take that away.

No more for me to say on the subject.
Diplomat

P.S. I don't know why 'he' in my post always appears in captial letters. Its not intended and I tried to correct it.

[Charlie 123]

Arrived around 1. 30 and met with Buck rogers, Kimino and Zimmerbaby from this forum. It's always good to have company at Artemis, especially when it comprises such genial and well-informed mongers. It seemed very busy to my eye, lots of girls around despite the early hour. Wednesday is Lingerie Day, a treat for those of us like Kimino and I who prefer to see the girls in an enticing outfit. More continued to flow in (or waddle in, in some cases) throughout the afternoon and early evening and so there was generous selection available all day. I saw a few girls I recognise from the past including Gabizca (HUN), Mary (BUL), Martina (BUL), NINA (CZE) & Sophie (GRE / BUL), but the vast majority of the girls were new to me.

First up, Grace (Cameroon), late 20's, black-skinned, long braided hair, medium build, speaks v good English, engaging personality, promised much in her pitch in the bar and delivered on pretty much all of it. Passionate girl, prolonged DFK, sloppy BJ, a really enjoyable GFE. 1 hour session, will probably repeat. Recommended.

Ella (RUS), well known to almost everybody here I imagine. My third or fourth session with Ella and the first for at least two years. When I took off my robe she said immediately 'Oh, you've got a new tattoo!' just another example of the astonishing memory that some of these girls have; god knows how many punters she's been with in the interim and it's not like I was a regular customer of hers anyway. The session itself was terrific, the best I've had with her. She is the consummate professional, does and says all the right things at the right time. She must have been something special 25 years ago, and she still looks pretty hot today from most angles.

Suzanna (HUN), late 20's, 5'8', slim, small natural titties, angular Slavic features, one script tattoo on the rear of her neck, medium blond hair, pretty girl, typical EE looks. She recognised me from years ago, I have to say that I didn't remember her, but I will next time. Fun, sexy girl with a cheeky disposition, perfect GFE. Stayed 1.5 hours. Wins the Session of The Day Award. Definite repeat for me.

Medezin (ROM), 23,5'4' perhaps, quite long dark hair, looks more Mediterranean than Gipsy and could pass for Spanish / Italian, pretty, medium breasts slightly drooping, good figure. Restricted service, no connection and I was shattered anyway, so a disappointing session which I terminated after 20 minutes. Perhaps somebody could do better with her, she's pretty enough and quite a sweet girl, but no repeat for me.

C123.

[Charlie 123]

Hi.

Without wishing to stir up any residual prevailing animosities, I have chosen to have my say on this topic because I think it covers some important ground. The consensus appears to be that there is some sort of arbitrary boundary of discretion that we as reporters should be mindful of in a public forum, and that surely must be correct.

But let's not fool ourselves. The prime function of this board is not an altruistic one. We are here to share info as mongers, with the purpose of getting more fun out of our FKK time and expenditure. 'More bang for our buck', in the most literal sense. Thus any fact-based info that doesn't severely impede upon a girl's private circumstances is admissible IMHO, and especially anything that occurs in the public areas, even if the value or relevance of the information can't be established at the time.

A good example arose this week and it flowed directly from the topic under discussion. I happened to read Altima's report the night before I went to Artemis, and happened also to notice what he had said about Vegas being in tears at the party. I was sitting next to Kimino in the lounge a day or two later. He's a big fan of Vegas; I don't know who she is. He mentioned that he had found her to be a bit off with him earlier that day. He asked her if there was something wrong or if he had upset her in some way, but she had shrugged him off. I mentioned what Altima had observed a couple of nights earlier, and we speculated that maybe there was a connection and she was in a bad phase, and thus perhaps today wasn't the best day to pick her for a session.

Imagine for instance that Altima's intel happened to lead or influence Kimino that day to make the successful choice, for example, of Viola over Vegas. Is that not precisely what we are here to achieve, helping each other with both direct and indirect information to make better choices in the heat of battle?

And whilst I respect and endorse Diplomat's general concern for the sensitivities of the girls, I think that the info Altima provided falls well short of the line as far as breaches of discretion are concerned.

[Pharisaer]

But, I travel this coming Monday for a two-day visit. If I can avoid rooming with Fatima and Nina I might actually have something new to say. I can't see it happening.

Fatima is back for some days actually. Good chance to bump into her next Monday or Tuesday. Good luck!

[Kimino]

Sadly, it's too long since I have had anything to report. But, I travel this coming Monday for a two-day visit. If I can avoid rooming with Fatima and Nina I might actually have something new to say. I can't see it happening.

Ciao. Nina was there yesterday but didn't see Fatima, maybe day off.

Kimino.