Davao

[Sam 14]

I frequently use a slightly different tactic than I've read about on the Chat Room thread. Rather than making it clear that sex is expected if she comes to my place, I tell them I don't expect anything, and I promise I'm not going to try to sex them. Sounds corny but it builds their trust enough to get them in the door, then it's usually pretty easy after that. Because after all, she's a good gurl, and she's not like the others. And a generous gift of P1,000 is even more appreciated, because it just kinda happened.

Latest scene just finished tonight. Been working on a gwapa 18 year old virgin on and off for a while now. I've had her over a few times and finally today she's ready. But the wish list has gotten way too heavy, and is now more like the expected list. Christmas is coming, she's going to be traveling, a new phone has been mentioned, breeze of teeth (braces), etc. So as of today, that hot stuff is going to be for her lucky husband.

Anyhow, her 21 year old cousin text me tonight checkin in. I told her it was over, and I was lonely and needed attention. I said just come by, and don't worry, I'm not going to bang you. We're just going to hang out for a while. And maybe I'll just kiss you all over. She liked the sound of that, so I got into a little more detail, and it must have turned her on. "Pero you promise no sex?" Yes, Sweetheart, I promise. So she arrives, we get her on her back, and it gets under way. Well, within less than 5 minutes of pussy licking she was fired up and we were shaggin like rats. Oops, I broke my promise, sorry. . "It's ukie".

[Member #4491]

And just a side note, at GMall they're required to cut that pretty black hair short, what a shame.

I was fucking one cute GMall cutie a couple of times, and she told me that there had been an occasion where a girl stole money rolled up in her hair, hence everyone now has to wear it short. Radical solution.

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[Sam 14]

<SNIP> back in 2005, and traveled to Davao to meet her. <SNIP> she didn't have a swimsuit, so we stopped at Gaisano Mall to buy one for her. We were in the department store there, and she took three swimsuits into the dressing rooms to try on. In the 5-10 minutes she was in there, three cute dept store employees approached me and asked if she was my GF. I said no, we just met in person, she has been my penpal. All three girls then gave me their cp numbers. I love the Philippines! LOL

Ya, love that!! How blessed we are to be young and gwapo!

Haha, whatever. . More towards reality. (Not at you RT). There was a time when hitting up sales ladies was my number one occupation. But nowadays I feel more like a kid in a candy store, but the cheap Cloud 9's on the lower shelf is all I can reach. I still love flirting with them, but not so much as a poon getting strategy anymore. It's easy pickin on them because they're sitting targets. It's great for the ego at first, and it's fun because they're cute and playful. Sometimes I get em going with "I'm searching for something brown." It's funny watching them offer up all the "available" ones, clear across other departments sometimes.

But the sobering reality of it is, when it comes right down to it, few actually want to be the available one. Now I think of it like this. Getting them to text you is about like getting them to add you on Wastebook. (Thanks Hut). No risk there, they love texting anyway. So you're allot more likely to get a million group messages and time-to-eat reminders than you are to get your two pops in on her next rest day.

I've rooted three that I can think of, and the bodies didn't look like the mannequins. One happened when her contract expired and wanted to barrow money. And the other 2 were just horny. Obviously if you search in the older and chubbier department, your odds improve. I got stopped by two sales ladies in the hallway outside the CR in a Gmall way outside of Davao. I could have shagged them both that evening, but they were rather hideous.

Even though most are on 6 month contracts, at least their future is stable for the next little while. So they take their job seriously. It's amazing how many are "focusing on their work" and are too "bzy" when you could loose more than they make in a day and not even notice it. And just a side note, at GMall they're required to cut that pretty black hair short, what a shame.

The general junk stores work sometimes, those sales ladies generally aren't as tall or cute, and they make even less. But usually their shifts are for the duration of whenever the store is open. So you can get their number and just wait till they loose their job, or otherwise decide they like you.

So there's my story, shopping for live merchandise in Davao malls gets old, far from the shooting fish in a barrel feeling you get after grabbing a bunch of numbers.

Better luck finding ones that are still "finding" work.

[Redman69]

I do not see why talking about understanding something is racist or being judgmental. I am from the US. I can tell you I wonder why 2195 people were killed in Chicago in 2013 alone. Just as many lining up for 2014. I wonder why it is mostly blacks shooting blacks. I wonder why my president was a senator from there and a community organizer from there but has not had 1 public idea on how to address this issue. I wonder what the world thinks about this. It is like Bagdad on a daily basses. And I watch TV and check the internet and look for answers.

My niece told me and she is in Cebu that at school they taught her 1/2 Philippine's is Bi-polar. That is what they told her in physch. Class. Being married to a pinay, Divorced from a pinay. Having 3 kids who are 1/2 pinay. And dealing with family counceling and other family issues here and looking for answers on my X and current wifes. I am glad people here talk about this stuff. The Bi-;or has something to do with bonding between conception and 3 years old. So many women in RP have babys and send them home. They get passed around and never get the firm bonding exp. Needed In those years. It was studied with all the orphans from Romania. I am an electrician so am not an expert. But can see some truths in this.

I started mongering at 12 years old. Got married and was faithfull for 5 years. Lost our 3rd baby and spent 7 more years watching it all end. I am 59 and married to a 22 year old. She knows all my past. She tells me when the family hussle is coming. She knows it is 50/50 I would get knocked off by her family if I lived there. Why because she would get stuff and they would take it. She was born in Gen. Santos and grew up in Carcar. I do not think her telling me these things makes her a uncle Tom as we say here. I think it is her caring enough about us to tell me the truth.

I still come to this board because it is full of men like me trying to figure life out. And I share a lot of the same past as they. I am glad all share even the ones I do not agree with. As I do learn new things daily.

[FreebieFan]

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1641247. We all have a very limited experience and encounters with ALL the Filipino people. Certainly not enough to form absolute oppinions. / QUOTE.

We all have opinions that we have formed based on one day, one week, one month, one year or 30 plus years on and in country. Where's the problem in sharing those opinions.

The only way one would have an absolute opinion would be to be Filipino, and as you might know, a Filipino from Luzon may have an absolutely different absolute opinion from a Filipino in Mindanao.

By sharing we all learn that we sometimes have similar or differing opinions about the country and the fine people who live there.

Its an interesting board, made more interesting by such discussions, and yes, occasionally the subject matter veers off tangent, but it invariably returns to sex.

Sit back, relax and ignore the parts of the discuss and the diverse opinions to which you can't relate.

[Roll Aides]

To tell the truth I find the posts that foreigners comparing the Philippines and / or Filippinos to their first world country with some superiority quite offensive. Why are you using your country as the benchmark? It seems like after one poster post then the others want to show how brilliant they each are with their posts. I am waiting for someone to start using graphs and pie charts. One big mental circle jerk off. We all have a very limited experience and encounters with ALL the Filipino people. Certainly not enough to form absolute oppinions.

Actually if you will read a bit more carefully, I think that you easily see 1) that, if anything, I was comparing the Philippines with Thailand, another newly industrialized county; 2) that my observations are mostly made from an absolute perspective (easy to form if you use logic and facts as a criteria rather than opinions and emotions,) not really with regard to anything else; and 3) that, if anything, I regard American culture, my home country by the way, as by far a detriment to most of the other cultures that it comes in contact with, rather than as an ideal against which to hold or compare other parts of the world. But again, thanks for playing, you have added a truly unique perspective, although I will omit to investigate it, for reasons precisely similar to those mentioned below.

[Dg8787]

Sorry my analysis didn't please you, Dg8787. One of the things that I value about the out-of-the-way Davao subforum. Is that sometimes topics are discussed that do not directly relate to sex. I realize that is not for everyone here, but then again you have a quite a huge variety of posts to choose from. Perhaps you could visit the photo thread for example, Westcoast has some nice new pics up as usual. But thank you for participating, you have definitely shed some unexpected illumination on this subject. Way to go!

To tell the truth I find the posts that foreigners comparing the Philippines and / or Filippinos to their first world country with some superiority quite offensive. Why are you using your country as the benchmark? It seems like after one poster post then the others want to show how brilliant they each are with their posts. I am waiting for someone to start using graphs and pie charts. One big mental circle jerk off. We all have a very limited experience and encounters with ALL the Filipino people. Certainly not enough to form absolute oppinions.

[Roll Aides]

I was lost for a while thinking this thread was for sex. Now I see it serves as a thread for some foreigners to mentally circle jerk off.

Sorry my analysis didn't please you, Dg8787. One of the things that I value about the out-of-the-way Davao subforum. Is that sometimes topics are discussed that do not directly relate to sex. I realize that is not for everyone here, but then again you have a quite a huge variety of posts to choose from. Perhaps you could visit the photo thread for example, Westcoast has some nice new pics up as usual. But thank you for participating, you have definitely shed some unexpected illumination on this subject. Way to go!

[Dg8787]

I was lost for a while thinking this thread was for sex. Now I see it serves as a thread for some foreigners to mentally circle jerk off.

[Roll Aides]

It's quite easy I think, to fall into the trap of concluding that because Filipinos speak at least some English, because they're largely Christian and of course, because they play basketball, the country is a sort of slightly out of focus version of the West. But as many of us know, these characteristics, to say nothing of a fervid but flawed imitation of Western culture are but a microns thin patina, and the truth is that this country is as culturally opaque and inaccessible as Thai or Vietnamese culture. Some never achieve this epiphany, while others realize it fairly quickly.

GE.

I found Thais pretty straightforward. I mean, their culture is incredibly alien to a westerner, but it's not attempting to hide that at all. Although totally different, it has its own internal logic, to at least the degree that any western civilization does. It's been around for about 4000 years. It works for them. It might not be what we grew up with, but it's a culture and if anything there are actually fewer internal inconsistencies, after all is said and done, than in ours. In fact, from what I've observed, their worst problems come from trying to adopt western attitudes and political systems, like foul weeds sprouting in a once-lovely garden. Or perhaps more accurately, like any non-native life form transplanted into a foreign ecology, there is a danger of it ruining the ecosystem that it is not adapted for nor the system to it. But I digress. . .

The realization you refer to took me almost three years, and it's still dawning on me. At this point, I'm trying to shine a light on what actually are the defining characteristics of the Filipino mindset. That is to say, what is under the patina. I don't believe it's actually that opaque, it's just really hard to get to because of the, as you say, fervid portrayal of what is going on on the surface. But once you learn to put those glasses on, it can be seen through pretty easily. I admit that I have limited incentive because it's not particularly pretty. But, one of the things that is for certain a national characteristic is the proclivity to pretend. It's the land of make-believe. Or as Barba put it, "as if". That's why it's so hard to come to the realization that it's a truly foreign culture. Sort of like you are trying to classify alien lifeforms, and you come across a mimic, a metamorph. What is it? It's whatever it pretends to be. It can be hard to get to what's underneath.

As for what is underneath, the only other definite properties that I have detected so far, are a tendency to thievishness, a complete disregard for any sort of moral truth, except as pretended to, and a hard-to-describe but very specific flavor of tribal me-first, me-last, me-deserve-anything mentality that I have yet to put a name to. Perhaps there is not an English name for this, although the results of it are sometimes described by Pinoys themselves as a "crab mentality. " That doesn't quite get to the core of it though, it's more like an outcome. An overly emotional nature that includes in the female populace a degree of clinginess that has to be experienced to be believed. Poor impulse control. Love of cliches and commercial memes. As we've discussed before, a mental and developmental arrestation at the age of approximately a highschool sophomore. Not for all, but that's where the middle of the bell curve is, and there's a very small standard deviation. The list goes on.

As I said, I've found that I have little motivation to investigate further, given the subject matter. At this point, I'm pretty much satisfied to leave it at the old line, "how do you know an X is lying? Because their lips are moving. " You can get on the ground with that assumption and be almost 100% prepared for anything that will happen here. That and keep your wallet in a pocket that buttons, and keep anything you value in a safe. There's a reason every nice house here has a high wall around it, and every convenience store has a guy outside with a shotgun. Don't ignore the clues. That wasn't directed at you GE, I know you know how to live here, and thank you again to you and all the other guys on the forum who have taught me how to see through the shit.

[GoodEnough]

I think the key thing here is "acted. " The longer you are here, the more you realize that EVERYTHING a Pinay does is an act. It's pretty much the core of their culture.

It's quite easy I think, to fall into the trap of concluding that because Filipinos speak at least some English, because they're largely Christian and of course, because they play basketball, the country is a sort of slightly out of focus version of the West. But as many of us know, these characteristics, to say nothing of a fervid but flawed imitation of Western culture are but a microns thin patina, and the truth is that this country is as culturally opaque and inaccessible as Thai or Vietnamese culture. Some never achieve this epiphany, while others realize it fairly quickly.

GE.

[Roll Aides]

I think there is much to that. The group's opinion of a girl is very important to her. For those who live in smaller communities there's always in one's mind one is being observed and gossiped about constantly. I think this holds true even for the big city. A fubu who I met on CL expressed it this way: "Manila is really a small town. " Though it's 12 million+ inhabitants, people inhabit tight social circles. Hooking up with a foreigner is "safer" when she avoids the places where her social groups gather. For girls who move away and taste freedom the external regulators are gone, and for some perhaps the internal inhibitors aren't well developed. Then she post photos on wastebook of herself wearing a bikini and someone informs her mother. Oh the scandal!

Nice observation Hut. One more good reason to meet girls off their home turf.

[Roll Aides]

When I worked in Manila, I had to fire / release / let go a good few Europeans and Americans, who got themselves into big trouble on the job. Invariably, their excuse reasoning was, " hey, they spoke English, they looked at me directly, they liked the same songs I liked, they acted the same as me ". They just hadn't realized that speaking English and acting Western, wasn't necessarily the same as being Western. Far from it indeed.

I think the key thing here is "acted. " The longer you are here, the more you realize that EVERYTHING a Pinay does is an act. It's pretty much the core of their culture.

[FreebieFan]

Thanks Roll Aides for the kind words. I'm glad you find my halting attempt to understand this culture somewhat helpful. I has a discussion yesterday with a friend, and we focused on the same general topic. We agreed that the mistake made by many Westerners is to make the assumption that since many Filipinos speak English, and since this is a nominally Catholic country, that it resembles the West. The truth is however that the "Westernization" is a very thin patina, and that this place is just as culturally opaque as its neighbors.

GE.

When I worked in Manila, I had to fire / release / let go a good few Europeans and Americans, who got themselves into big trouble on the job. Invariably, their excuse reasoning was, " hey, they spoke English, they looked at me directly, they liked the same songs I liked, they acted the same as me ". They just hadn't realised that speaking English and acting Western, wasnt necessarily the same as being Western. Far from it indeed.

[Hutsori]

I hypothesize that it's the constant bombardment by family, church and school (also church) that they need to ignore boys and / or save themselves for marriage, that produces a mentality devoid of effective inter-gender yearnings. A sufficient amount of cultural conditioning has the capability to crush human instincts. Sadly.

I think there is much to that. The group's opinion of a girl is very important to her. For those who live in smaller communities there's always in one's mind one is being observed and gossiped about constantly. I think this holds true even for the big city. A fubu who I met on CL expressed it this way: "Manila is really a small town. " Though it's 12 million+ inhabitants, people inhabit tight social circles. Hooking up with a foreigner is "safer" when she avoids the places where her social groups gather. For girls who move away and taste freedom the external regulators are gone, and for some perhaps the internal inhibitors aren't well developed. Then she post photos on wastebook of herself wearing a bikini and someone informs her mother. Oh the scandal!