Pattaya Reports

[Wonderer]

I went to Walking Street the other day. Did a few go-go bars, tried Insomnia, and for whatever reason ended up at Rhino. It's very close to the Bali Hai pier end, and normally I don't go down that far, just orbiting around the middle section of WS, so this was my first time at Rhino.

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Anyway, I was rock hard but I took a long time to come due to all the beers I had drunk. She was very patient, understanding and helpful, and in the end satisfaction was reached! She gave me her phone number, so maybe next time I can set something up with her directly.

Now that the Army is in charge, it looks like the 2 am cutoff is not really operational. WS was pretty lively until at least 4 am. That's a great thing!

That's an interesting coincidence. I just wanted to write about my experience at Rhino. I visited the place several times in the past and found a few great gals there. However, then it deteriorated and for a while even became an open bar. They must have noticed their mistake. It is a normal go go bar again.

When I was there on Saturday, a quite nice girl came to me. She was not perfectly my type. But what she told me made sense. She said that I should not buy her drinks, but she prefers a tip. She needs money to pay for her room. She would give me a great service and do a great BJ. Since this sounded credible, I agreed. She also said that she would stay LT, which normally would be 4000. But she would do it for 3000 (which used to be the normal rate just a couple of months ago). ST would be 2500, by the way. Bar fine was 1000, which I reluctantly accepted.

However, when we left, she told me that she made a mistake. She had been in the bar for only a few days and had not been taken out since. Therefore, she did not know that the bar fine for ST is 1500. What the f! Such bar fine is definitely beyond my limit, and I told her no way.

Well, at my hotel, we really had a great time. She gave me a good BBBJ and I gave her a DATY until she almost came. Then we did the deed for quite a while, and she came at least once. Finally, I also shot my load. Then, however, she was nervous. She said that either she has to pay the 500 additional bar fine, or she has to go back to the bar. Since I had my relief already and since I was hungry, I told her to go back to Rhino. I accompanied her, and while she went back to the bar, I had a nice after-midnight dinner.

Now, she keeps texting and calling me (we exchanged numbers). Perhaps, I will do her once again during day time, without any bar fine and with a discount rate.

Wonderer.

[Mr Enternational]

I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000. Basically I now pin point where I visit and when? In my experience I noticed more of the top ones from Soi 6, and Go Go's from LK Metro at the disco than from W.S. just my opinion.

Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one. Really nothing special about this chick to me. Just like all of the other ones. I gave her 1000 LT. Just goes to show once again: same girl, different venue, different price.

[Uncle Volodya]

IYou should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.

Wise words, as always, my friend.

I find the mistake that I have made is getting fixated on a girl and ignoring the tell tale signs that I should abort mission. You start thinking that you can make her like you. This may be true, but it really is not worth the hassle and it is more likely end badly when the chemistry is not there from the get go.

Like you said, its a buyers market -- best to move on when you start feeling you are not clicking with the girl. When I have followed this strategy its always turned out really well for me. One time I was with an absolute stunner at Crystals but the vibe was just not right. So I bailed on her and moved on to Destiny and had a gorgeous bar girl literally jump off stage into my arms to make out with me. Went back to my pad for one of my most memorable shags ever.

[LittleBigMan]

Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.

However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.

I too am from the City as they call it? So I do know a thing about Massage parlors. I do not disagree with you but as you know if you know massage parlor they are not what they were in the 90's, after the raid on human traffic it has not been the same. Pretty much gone OnLine? But there are still some good places as you noted.

But I was just as they say stretching to make a point! Even at the prices you refer take that amount and you can get much more than a hour! And that is why you come as you noted!

[TellAll]

Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.

However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.

I love it there also. Always have a blast. I don't really go anywhere mongering to save money. I go to have fun.

I just have my limit on what I am willing to spend on a woman in a particular market, including the USA.

I assume everyone does it just varies from monger to monger.

[TellAll]

NB,

You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!

DG8787.

I am one of those guys that like to drink. That's why I do my mongering before my cocktail hour hits.

When I meet a girl that interest me after my drinking starts, I'll talk and buy a drink or two to check the chemistry and for warning signs. Even if all seems well I don't take her that night. I return another day when I'm not boozing as much.

It works in my favor when I tell them I came back just to see them.

[Lefeu]

I disagree. All I have to go on are my personal experiences, Lefeu, and all I am saying is these personal experiences should not be that much different from anyone else's in the Pattaya Go Go environment...My only assumption here is that I am pretty much like everybody else

NB, I should know better than to criticize you. IMO, you are a treasure to ISG. Really, what I meant to say is that your experience applies to a certain segment of the mongering population, namely Caucasians and Asian ethnicity. It does not apply to all other ethnicity. BTW, I tried to send you this message via a PM but your inbox is apparently full.

[Member #4698]

NB, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.

I disagree. All I have to go on are my personal experiences, Lefeu, and all I am saying is these personal experiences should not be that much different from anyone else's in the Pattaya Go Go environment. I have no inside information or special relationships going on in the Pattaya bars although a few girls always remember me from previous trips and it is always nice to get back together with them. I admit that in Baccara BKK where I am very well known, I do receive special attention and treatment because I am considered a loyal regular customer. LOL. I never abuse my special privileges and just like to blend into the scene. I am looking forward to my next trip real bad.

My only assumption here is that I am pretty much like everybody else i.e. I am a slightly above average American punter in looks and spending capacity with a fair amount of experience who walks into popular Walking Street Go Go's cold turkey with a good attitude and a sharp eye. I know the price structure before I walk through the door. I also know Thai Go Go girls and their body language and facial gestures. That is one of the ways I can usually tell when something is not right. I truly believe that if punters spent a little time with a girl getting to know her, having some fun, and trying to create a little chemistry the percentage of quality barfines will dramatically increase and certain bad signs or tells would emerge that will warn a discerning punter off the girl if he is paying any attention. My methods are not fool proof and anybody including myself can have a bad Go Go girl experience once in a long while. I would say 1 bad experience in 10 is acceptable although these stats can definitely be improved upon. If a punter is getting less favorable experiences on Walking Street then I am saying something is wrong. And RTFF. There are certain bars that are no good and foster really bad attitudes in their girls. One should avoid those bars at all cost. But following my methods which are just based on just good common sense, the odds of barfining a bad girl should really decrease markedly. All I am saying is it works for me plus I have a real good time hunting in the bars and Go Go's. This is what I call entertainment. Oh yeah, I love Thai Bar Girls. I think that helps a lot although at the same time I never play the fool.

NB,

You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!

DG8787.

Two or three Tequilas don't make me or most bar girls drunk. I find that all a couple shots do is loosen things up and creates a warm party vibe between me and the girl (s) that is very conducive for having great sex later. If a couple of shots of Tequila has a negative effect on you then by all means cut that step out. You should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.

[Lefeu]

Now TellAll you are really blowing smoke up the ass? 5000 baht in the USA Would get you parking outside a massage sneaking around so your friends and family do not spot you. Once inside you get a drop of oil on your balls and your finished?

Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.

However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.

[Dg8787]

NB, You write excellent reports, among the best, and you provide quite a bit of intel. I, and probably many other mongers, are thankful for that.

But, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.

NB,

You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!

DG8787.

[Lefeu]

I can only assume that guys not getting good service either don't know how to have a good time with a bar girl, or have lousy personalities and are probably cheap bastards and like to negotiate hard with the girls, or they have really bad personal hygiene.

NB, You write excellent reports, among the best, and you provide quite a bit of intel. I, and probably many other mongers, are thankful for that.

But, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.

[Uncle Volodya]

Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".

Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.

Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.

Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.

JohnTheScot.

You don't really need a wingman. Check my posts from my May and August trips to see how its done. Dress nice -like you would to go to a club back home, approach with a big smile, and be confident (not cocky) and its like shooting fish in a barrel.

Stay horny my friend...
Uncle-V

[Member #4698]

I'm been to nearly every Go-Go bar on Walking St, and when you speak of 2500/4500 the leader in pricing has to be Bacarra, which now has extended to the other Happy Group, Happy, Peppermit, not sure of Beach? I've had debates about this that Bacarra has no influence but twice now I have been at Happy, and the girls I spoke to wanted 2500/5000 baht. I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000.

Pattaya is like Hell to me, it is the wild west free to do whatever you want so many choices why would anyone want not to get on a airplane or go to Heaven unless it is Heaven Above.

This is my experience as well. My Happy girl wanted 2500 bt for ST and the barfine was 700 bt for a grand total of 3200. I thought the 2500 bt was a tad high considering that the previous night my hot Sensations agency girl only wanted 2000 bt for ST although the Sensations barfine was 1000 bt /1500 bt before and after midnight for a grand total of 3500 (it was 9:30 pm when I wanted to take her and I did not feel like waiting 2. 5 hours to save 500 bt.) I did not negotiate with either girl and I bought a couple of rounds to Tequila both nights to warm us up before I got around to asking them out. Both girls gave me excellent service and we spent a few hours together. ST was 1 shot and they did not spend the night although both girls were more than wiling to stay longer and have more sex. In fact the Happy girl was very interested in hooking up again the next night and she called me around 9:30 pm to see what I was up to. I was at Lisa Bar at the time and I told her to come join me there for a drink. 15 minutes later she arrived on a motorcycle taxi. She ended up staying the night and we had multiple shags. I gave her 4000 bt in the morning and she was very happy with that amount. There was no barfine.

The point of my post is that I look upon quoted Go Go prices as a beginning framework and I consider these prices as more or less non negotiable for the first time I take a girl. I never negotiate! If the price is too high I withdraw my invitation because an outrageous price quote is usually an indication the girl does not want to go with me. This is never a big deal because there are hundreds of girls waiting in the wings that are just dying for me to show some interest in them. PATTAYA IS STILL A BUYERS MARKET! My modus operandi is to spend a little time with the girls I am attracted to and to size her up before we even start talking about barfines to make sure she is ok. Besides, I am on holiday and I like to have a good time in the bar and elsewhere before taking my girl to my hotel room. I usually buy a couple rounds of Tequila shots to loosen everybody up including myself. The result is I am nearly always given a great response from my Pattaya and BKK Go Go girls. I can't even remember when my the last disappointing session was. It had to be a couple of years ago. I can only assume that guys not getting good service either don't know how to have a good time with a bar girl, or have lousy personalities and are probably cheap bastards and like to negotiate hard with the girls, or they have really bad personal hygiene.

One more tip for relating to Go Go girls: for 1st time takeouts I recommend only go ST. If everything is good chances are she will be more than willing to stay longer or want to see you again and this 4500-5000 bt LT thing won't even come up. But if it does you can just say that is a little too high and so you prefer to keep it ST. I personally consider 4000bt my ceiling for Walking Street Go Go quality LT although if the girl is truly sensational and I already had sex with her and know how good she is, I would probably pay up and not let 500bt get in my way. But this is not a negotiation. I find my girls are much more friendly and willing to go LT at more reasonable rates (we don't even talk money) after they have had my dick inside them at least once and the ice between us has been broken. These are good girls. I treat them right and more times than not, I receive a lot more from them in return. It is called the GFE.

[LittleBigMan]

Actually I never fly coach to Asia it's to long a flight for me in coach, but you are correct I go for the variety and the fun of hanging out with like minded friends in a place like that and the all around fun of it. Also my stays there are long. Two to three months at a time.

Don't know about massage parlors here, never been. I do have a couple Asian honeys here that charge me $120 an hour for service, but I have known them a long time. Funny thing is they fuck me for money but don't believe their Ho's cause they also have regular jobs.

I wasn't hating, if someone wants to pay 5000 for a lady in A go go, I say go for it. But if you are wondering why the prices keep going up. It's because guys keep paying it.

The only guys that chap my ass and I hear it a lot from guys over there, is the guys who claim they are getting fucked all the time for free. In Pattaya? Yeah right.

Will be back in January, can't wait.

Not sure where the hating come in? Did I say that? I never worry about what people are paying what is the point! A few months back I was sitting next to this guy in a go go, I over heard when the Mamasan came to him with a tab for the Barfine 5700 baht, 700 was included the BF, it was for LT. He had the biggest smile on his face. Who the hell was I to tell him he was over paying. The guy was young good looking most likely haven't had it in a year but tonight he was the man? When the girl he pay for came dress and ready to leave I couldn't believe she had the nerve to ask for 5,000 baht. But more power to her she got it!

I not one of those guys who think they are getting it for free, if I did, I would run for the hills because there is got to be a motive for it. I'm old and for sure not handsome! I rather pay for it and when I do I just expect to get the best bang for my baht?

[Feelz Good]

To the quiet man who gets more ass in Pattaya than a toilet seat on Walking Street, major thanks to that Pipe Layer. Being a somewhat of a newbie I will never catch up to your female encounters, but I can dream. Just keep it up (in many ways), proud to party with you and have known you. Your guidance and tips paid major dividends in my travels this last trip. You truly are a journeyman of all erotic venues in Pattaya. Thanks again, hope to be back soon!