South China - Shenzhen

[LondonOwl]

Hi everybody,

Hope all is well on your side.

I've been reading this long with some interest.

I've been living in China for many years mostly in the North but just moved to Shenzhen.

Anyway, straight to the point I am looking for Russian and / or Europeans girls in Shenzhen to pickup in a bar and preferably GFE kind of meetings.

I know its like 1000+ RMB depending on the time they spend for outcalls.

Any advice on where is the best way to find this in Shenzhen?

I'm staying in Futian CBD in a 5 start hotel.

[Fifty Shades]

When you search nearby, you also make yourself visible, I never approach, just search and wait, the girls who approach me are usually quite interesting.

Further, there is no need to use google translate, simply long press the Chinese text, it will automatically translate to the language in your phone. Reply in English, the recipient can do the same.

QQ has a similar facility.

Fz.

This advice is exactly right. In my limited experience with wechat in a couple of cities, you can post that you are from a foreign country and interested girls will contact you in "looking around". Most will be looking for a business transaction, but a few might be looking for a BF. The business types will quickly get to asking if you want service at the hotel. Happened to me last week. I have found that, if needed, a message like "do you want to meet in my hotel tonight? $" will separate the wheat from the chaff. Wechat translate and short, simple sentences work the best. If you are lucky and someone on her end speaks english, you may be able to finish the transaction on the phone.

No matter where you find the girl, I know that most people will refuse upfront payment, for good reasons, but I have made a few exceptions. Payment at the end may motivate better service, but I have found that telling the girl you will be in town for quite a while can also be effective. I am almost always asked after they arrive how long I will be in town, and I ask if they are available evenings for the rest of the week. As far as I can tell, they get to keep all the money on a private "date", that is not through their service. At the end of the first evening, they will give you their private phone number, wechat account, etc. I have never been asked for upfront money after the first evening. The worst thing is to tell them you are in town for just one night. YMMV.

[Rogue5]

Found a very good massage place in Longhua. This is without a doubt the best massage experience I have found in all of China.

Now, I say that and the regulars on this thread are going to think, "who is this guy? I have a few posts from years ago, but have just been lurking since.

Anyway, this find was quite by chance. I flew into Hong Kong late and wanted a good nights sleep before getting on a high speed train up into Hunan. I picked a hotel in Longhua to be relatively near the high speed train station. That hotel is the Vienna International Hotel. It is a large chain, I know, but this is the one with the Greco-Roman front façade. Around the corner from this hotel (out the front door, go down the steps turn left, then left again into the food court / market area). Not more than 100 meters on the left you'll see a sign for KTV and massage. There is usually a rep out front. It's up the elevator on the 4th or 5th floor (forget). Price is very reasonable and the girls I've seen in there are all young and pretty. I've gone twice. One hour massage at around Y248. The girls are super friendly and offer happy ending, possible more. I haven't tried for more, but on both visits got the girls Wechat info. Tips wasn't even discussed on either visit, but was given. Very secure with showers and lockers. It is a very large facility.

Rogue5

[Fuzimiao]

I decided to give it try.

The wechat app can search all chicks around you so you can approach them or wait for them to hit you.

It's difficult to know who is in the business and who is a decent gal.

Tried some 10 hits and got one "real" reply.

The main issue is the English barrier-these gals can't speak English.

So you can use google translate but it takes time.

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When you search nearby, you also make yourself visible, I never approach, just search and wait, the girls who approach me are usually quite interesting.

Further, there is no need to use google translate, simply long press the Chinese text, it will automatically translate to the language in your phone. Reply in English, the recipient can do the same.

QQ has a similar facility.

Fz.

[Zamziv]

I decided to give it try.

The wechat app can search all chicks around you so you can approach them or wait for them to hit you.

It's difficult to know who is in the business and who is a decent gal.

Tried some 10 hits and got one "real" reply.

The main issue is the English barrier-these gals can't speak English.

So you can use google translate but it takes time.

Started around 10 pm and the chick arrived around 1 am.

And she is not the one in the pic-she explained that this the way they use not to exposed.

At the room she insisted on "money up front" I refused and she called the pimp.

To make a long story short I kicked her away, was too tired, she was too costly (2000 for short time) and not so attractive as the pic.

[Ikksman]

你说不赢他，他很油条. Nǐ shuō bu yng tā, tā hěn yutio.

Oops, Sorry about that. Bloody UScentric software.

你说不赢他，他很油条. Nǐ shuō bu yng tā, tā hěn yutio.

Ikksman

[Ikksman]

Deep fried breadstick is a colloquialism. Pinyin is yutio (not yuzh guǐ).
Ikksman
^{"No need to expose fools. They expose themselves!"}

Sorry, I was being a bit too vague.

In discussing the person in question, Mr. Yng H , one might advise:
你说不赢他，他很油条. Nǐ shuō bu yng tā, tā hěn yutio.

Ikksman

[Fast Eddie 48]

The previously 'safe' haven of Shenzhen is now subject to a CP-like crackdown.

Apparently, 8 members of a 30 member Taiwanese tourist group visited the 金海蓝湾夜总会 (Golden Sea Blue Gulf Nightclub) and took 8 girls back to their hotel. The hotel was the LVGM Hotel in Futian. Police subsequently raided the hotel and the guys and WGs were arrested.

Interestingly, this is the first instance (of which I am aware) of foreigners being targeted in a raid on a 5 (?) star hotel in SZ. But, of course there may be more to the story!

Be careful, and as many suggest, if you do take a girl back to your hotel, it is safer to register her. Personally, I would have booked the hotel room for 2 guests.

Ikksman.

To Ikksman.

There are so many Nave tourist think they cannot get caught a big group of monger get too much attention in a big hotel in SZ, maybe someone in the hotel report this to police for the crack down, I know the police in CP in offering reward up to 2000 rmb so a bell boy that only get 2000 rmb a month salary is good money not sure this is happening in SZ too, so you guy should becareful keep a low profile time is change in China you will get caught.

Fast eddie 48.

[Fifty Shades]

I tend to be agree that it is not a big issue, although others may disagree. However, we need to be aware that the Telco companies and Weixin store messages, so deleting from your own phone is not really a security measure. And of course the Chinese security organisations are also able to intrude on your private conversations if they want to.

A wechat text message could be followed up with a phone call to discuss price, before any visit to a hotel. Without text about price (agree that these are stored by telco and easily retrieved), there is not such clear evidence. In some other countries, WGs will not discuss price by text or email. WGs have been cleaning up their wechat profiles for the same reason. When the spotlight is on in a crackdown, a sensible response is to move out of the light, to the extent that is possible. For the same reason, it seems sensible to convey certain specific details of establishments and people by PM rather than in a public post on ISG. Of course, everyone will decide on their own what is an acceptable risk.

[OzBuild]

I tend to be agree that it is not a big issue, although others may disagree. However, we need to be aware that the Telco companies and Weixin store messages, so deleting from your own phone is not really a security measure. And of course the Chinese security organisations are also able to intrude on your private conversations if they want to.

I just can't imagine them going to that much trouble to go after a foreigner for banging a hooker. In DG about 6 weeks ago I went back to my hotel with a girl in tow. When we arrived there were police everywhere. Apparently there was a kidnapping a few hours earlier. By the time we got there most of them were milling around the lobby. Initially my heart was racing thinking how much shit I could be in, but we didn't even get a 2nd glance.

[Kitsune9]

Once you have agreed on pricing it is not difficult to delete that message off the conversation anyway, can't see a big deal tbh...

I tend to be agree that it is not a big issue, although others may disagree. However, we need to be aware that the Telco companies and Weixin store messages, so deleting from your own phone is not really a security measure. And of course the Chinese security organisations are also able to intrude on your private conversations if they want to.

[Ikksman]

Hasn't anybody got any intel on the SZ yanda? Come on guys! It is happening right now!

Ikksman

[OzBuild]

There have been repeated posts about the dangers of WeChat recently. Some posters highlight that one should never talk about pricing in a Wechat conversation.

My experience is that the pimp will never send a girl to your door unless pricing is agreed via Wechat.

What is the experience of others here? Have pimps ever sent a girl to your hotel / apartment without mentioning pricing? This seems like an invitation for conflict to me!

And does anyone have actual knowledge of LE Wechat stings in SZ (and not just hearsay)?

Kit.

P.S. I am really sick of posters posting some "information" about the current situation, but never answer subsequent questions seeking clarification. The only conclusion can be is that their post is hearsay or just plain BS.

P. P.S. Puki, I agree to your request. But it was fun. So easy to reel him in! I guess that it could have been boring to others! Sorry.

Once you have agreed on pricing it is not difficult to delete that message off the conversation anyway, can't see a big deal tbh. I gave wechat a run in April in Dongguan. About 9.00 pm I just sat out the front of my hotel (Nancheng area) checking the profiles of people near me. It was mostly a sausage fest, but a few lookers within a few hundred meters. It turns out they were all fronts for providers, but still gets the job done. Within 10 minutes a tout worked out who we were & approached us at the front of the hotel. He had pics on his phone we could select from. Initially he wanted us to go with him, but we were not interested in doing that. He claimed the girls would be scared of coming to the hotel. It didn't take long once he realised we weren't going anywhere that the girls would be happy to come to the hotel.

[Kitsune9]

There have been repeated posts about the dangers of WeChat recently. Some posters highlight that one should never talk about pricing in a Wechat conversation.

My experience is that the pimp will never send a girl to your door unless pricing is agreed via Wechat.

What is the experience of others here? Have pimps ever sent a girl to your hotel / apartment without mentioning pricing? This seems like an invitation for conflict to me!

And does anyone have actual knowledge of LE Wechat stings in SZ (and not just hearsay)?

Kit.

P.S. I am really sick of posters posting some "information" about the current situation, but never answer subsequent questions seeking clarification. The only conclusion can be is that their post is hearsay or just plain BS.

P. P.S. Puki, I agree to your request. But it was fun. So easy to reel him in! I guess that it could have been boring to others! Sorry.

[TomSf]

Kit,

I know it is entertaining, but please stop. He is like a dog with a bone. So I request you to cease, as otherwise this will continue forever.

I agree Puki. I would love if people stop wanting to talk about useless things and actually post a trip report in Shen Zhen. But, I won't hold my breath.