Bangkok Reports

[Rodwint2]

Has any body been to the Den in Soi 12. Supposed to be a freelancer bar. I saw the photo looks kind of fancy. Open just last month.

See the review of the facility prior to opening: http://tour.thegirlsofwow.com/bjsblog/?p=1470#more-1470.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Has any body been to the Den in Soi 12. Supposed to be a freelancer bar. I saw the photo looks kind of fancy. Open just last month.

To Love sex 22.

I don't think Den is a freelance bar just a tiny bar with girl sitting outside waiting for customer, I walk by there a few week ago didn't see any girl I want so I didn't go inside someone told me they own by the same guy that own Eden club.

Fast eddie 48.

[Koalie2001]

That should be the new name of NEP.

Over the past few months, my last few visits to Nana have been depressing, but tonight's visit was the most depressing by far.

I have already written off Soi Cowboy, because it is populated by far too many coyotes to make searching in Cowboy enjoyable. The coyotes add too much uncertainty, in terms of finding a girl to go with. No doubt, with time one can uncover who might be possible to pull, outside of the old style bars such as Suzi Wong or others of the type, but the occasional visitor to Bangkok does not have the time to build up that sort of knowledge even with the help of boards such as this one. Baccarra has possibilities, but one must fight against the natural inclination of the girls to prefer a particular type of clientele. And Shark has been good but it is looking a bit rundown as of late. Crazy House was my last stop tonight, it did have half the girls nude on stage, but more than half of those should have kept their clothes on. Cowboy was shut down by the unfriendly boys in brown before 1:30 am. It is now a poor caricature of itself, and like Nana it is surviving on a currently undeserved reputation.

Back to Nana. Looked in almost every bar, with the exclusion of the too common lady boy bars. Took a drink in about five bars, including Mandarin, Rainbow, the bar above Mandarin (never known its name, but it has the topless schoolgirl dancer style) and a couple of others. Needless to say, it was a whole lot of nothing. Visiting Nana even a few years ago used to be about choosing one from one hundred possibilities. Now, it is look at one hundred and maybe find one. Perhaps a bit of an exaggeration, but there is a tremendous number of late 20's and early 30's average women masquerading as sexy because they are dancing on the stage in various stages of undress. The all too rare truly attractive girl knows she is exactly that, which makes grabbing such a girl a much more complicated and time consuming exercise.

The premise of a collection of bars such as those in Nana is to have the number of the desirable girls outnumber the number of potential customers in a given night. In this type of dynamic, the motivations and incentives for creating liaisons clearly rest with the girls, leading to much better prices, and much better experiences both within the bar and outside of the bar. But now with the numbers of seekers outnumbering the number of desirable targets, the targets gain power in this system, and for the guy spending money in the bar, much of the fun (in my case, all of the fun) is sucked out of the system. The No Entertainment Plaza should drop Entertainment from its name, become a No Plaza, which I mean to imply is simply close NEP. It is a waste of time and money to visit the NEP now, unlike even a few years ago (similar to Cowboy) where great fun could be had, and a partner for the night or for an hour, could readily be found with little search cost.

This post might sound like much bitterness coming from one dreadful night, and if it does, this is true. But it also reflects a sum of experiences built up over a considerable number of visits to NEP and Cowboy over the past year. My hope was that each bad night was an exception, but it is not the case, the quality of the experience continues to go down. Thankfully Pattaya still has some life.

In the end, I can see why many frequent visitors to Bangkok or residents in Bangkok discuss having a favorite or a girl they continually rebook. With quality finds few and far between, one better hold onto the good girls once found. Yet, in a city as large as Bangkok, with historically as varied a sex scene as what it has, I find it surprising and disappointing that a very few places, and a select few girls, tend to dominate as destinations, again as reflected in the conversations on this board. The beauty of Bangkok to me, at least since I first visited the city in 1987, but then from 1998 when I started to regularly go there, was the great variety that could be found, and the really good time one could have in the gogos. A new good experience was always lurking just around the corner. As soon as you dispensed with one girl you could find another one who was better and more fun than the previous one.

Not anymore unfortunately. It is either going to take a great influx of new talent from a couple of neighboring countries, or a 1997 style meltdown, to stimulate entry into this industry and bring new life to an industry where old life dominates now.

[Love Sex 22]

Has any body been to the Den in Soi 12. Supposed to be a freelancer bar. I saw the photo looks kind of fancy. Open just last month.

[Paul Kausch]

Travelling to Thailand for 20 days planing to take USD! Can someone please help me with the best exchange rates both Pattaya and Bangkok thank you! Please PM me.

In Bangkok SuperRich 1965 has very good rates. They have convenient branches at the Asoke and Chidlom BTS stations. They have a slightly better rate at the head office near Central World. You can find rates and locations on their website.

[Gypsie King]

Hello,

There has been a report that bar fines in rainbow4 and angelwitch went up to 800 thb. Have other members noticed that too?

GK.

[IAmRamesh86]

Travelling to Thailand for 20 days planing to take USD! Can someone please help me with the best exchange rates both Pattaya and Bangkok thank you! Please PM me.

[Goatscrot]

As some one who lives down Soi 19/ Sukhumvit (and in Nongbulamphu) I have never been stopped. As for the cigarette police? If you smoke than do not litter.

I live in the Lower Suk area as well. My issue with the Tesakit "litter police" is that they are only targeting foreigners. I have not once seen them follow a Thai that is smoking a cigarette, but they will pursue a foreigner smoking many blocks. Also the "maximum" fine for littering is 2 k baht. I have never heard of them asking for less. I applaud trying to keep the streets clean, but targeting only foreigners is just not ok. Also it makes a very bad impression on tourists.

[ShivaInForty]

What the duck? If I had to give an answer it would be an educated type, with loads of cash, stunning in looks, and perhaps most importantly, craves her some farang dick.

Are there Indian women available for short time in Bangkok. If they are then which location and how to get in touch. Any leads will surely help as I will be visiting Bangkok shortly. Though Thai ladies are good I like big and taller women. Appreciate any help please.

Thanks in advance.

[DarkSmurf]

I've heard there are Russian freelancers to be found around Bangkok but not much mention of them on these forums. Are Russians (and other non-Thais) common and what sort of rates can I expect and where should one look for them? It's always nice to have some variety!

[Jgm005]

Is it as bad as reported in this article in Sukhumvit / Soi Cowboy area?

http://time.com/3674200/thailand-tou...own-extortion/

As some one who lives down Soi 19/ Sukhumvit (and in Nongbulamphu) I have never been stopped. As for the cigarette police? If you smoke than do not litter.

[Bart1]

Is it as bad as reported in this article in Sukhumvit / Soi Cowboy area?

http://time.com/3674200/thailand-tou...own-extortion/

I was in soi cowboy every night for a week last week. Always 2 cops at soi 23 entrance, asked one where a drug store was when nearby 2 were closed at 11 pm. Even pointed to closed door of nearby drugstore. Did not get the LOS look in return. It was more like ask me another question and you will wish you had not asked the first time. I did not see any farangs being questioned. I have now changed hotels and am near Nana. The cigarette police have a green patch on their shoulder, usually see them on Sukhumvit, even stopped to talk with one a few days ago and got the LOS look, friendly guy. I have not seen anyone stopped, but between my nearly every day visit to my fav soapy Colonze2, and to visit my fav go-go girls in Mandarin in NP, and beer drinking in Stumble Inn I do not get to everything happening on the street.

[Phordphan]

Curious as to how current that information is? Rumors of its death have been around for the past 2 years but it continues to limp along like a crippled dog with asthma. Six months ago one of the service guys told me that the owner. Son of the old guy who died last year. Had been looking to sell it but was holding on to it for a few more years. At this point it should be a museum piece with most of the women on exhibit as examples of what not to do with your life. Last night I was sitting out at a table down the street and saw a guy come out with a woman well into her 50's with a rack that stretched to Sukhumvit in a tight short black shirt. It was truly scary but she probably gave the guy a heck of a ride.

Speaking of landmarks closing down. Walked by the Rex Hotel on Sukhumvit and Soi 32 today and workmen were hauling out its contents and piling them into trucks. From what I gather this was a famous spot back in the 60's and 70's with a coffee shop full of girls. It closed on 12/31. I like the 60's exterior design. Quite cool in a small way. It's all disappearing.

Hey, experience makes the difference!

The Rex was the first hotel I stayed at, back in 1999 I think it was. It was a bit down at the heel, and in need of some paint and carpet. It was probably pretty ghastly by now. But I remember the staff being friendly and helpful, and the room was OK too. <Sigh! Another landmark bites the dust.

[Phordphan]

Is it as bad as reported in this article in Sukhumvit / Soi Cowboy area?

http://time.com/3674200/thailand-tou...own-extortion/

The information appears to be slightly out of date. According to Stickman's site, it was this bad until a few weeks ago. Probably the international scrutiny caused a few angry phone calls from some big shots. But supposedly it has all stopped.

I will say that the cigarette butt scam has been around a long time. But that's your own fault. If you're going to smoke, dispose of the butts in the proper receptacle (I know, hard to find in BKK). But tossing butts on the ground is technically illegal in a lot of places.

I do love the way so many articles bleat about deposing "a democratically elected government. " Hitler and Mussolini were "democratically elected" to their respective parliaments and became heads of state through "legitimate" means. But that's off topic.

[El Frances]

Is it as bad as reported in this article in Sukhumvit / Soi Cowboy area?

http://time.com/3674200/thailand-tou...own-extortion/