Bangkok Reports

[FruitNinja]

I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow..

I have had one problem in BKK and that was my fault. I think if you approach this like buying a car you will be ok. You have to be very forthright with what options you are looking for. Know what your buying before you hand over your money and you will avoid lemons. Never pay upfront. It's all in the forum. We need a "Rules of The Road" forum. Another thing that goes a long way in getting good service is being reasonable in what you're offering. Find out what the going rate is at the place you're at. Only haggle if she's asking more than the going rate. Don't try and get her to discount the service too much or you'll get discounted service. Common sense. If she's asking 50% more than the going rate then more than likely she doesn't want to go. Don't push it, it won't turn out well.

Paul, I've spent quite a bit of time in Columbia, Cuba, and a few others south of the border. It's been a while but I periodically read those forums just to keep current as it's a heck of a lot closer than BKK. I'm still infatuated with Asia so it won't be for a while. Email me if you want to discuss. I think I have a lot of pics of what's available and I'll give you my take on it. I think you and I are similar mongers.

I think you would like some of the Philippine scene.

In AC right now. Had a good time last night.

[Utd1980]

Thank you so much for replying to all my queries. Really appreciate the time you have taken to write back.

Yes, I agree, I will cherish the NURU with one and then probably opt for 3 sum at Eden. Cherry website does say they give NURU. Planning to take one with Bell.

I had a good time with freelancers in Jakarta, but may its something different in BKK. Will check out the place, but not sure about the chick.

The only fear I have of gogo is that, I have seen some jerks holding videos of the place and then posting them on youtube and everyones face is visible. Have to say, being a family man, that is kind of risky, albeit the chances may be less than 1% though and I could be exaggerating.

So, thanks again for your time and advice.

Regards.

A.

[Wolvenvacht]

Hi everyone.

I would be traveling to BKK in a couple of weeks for two nights onlyThis would be my first solo business trip and would like to take full advantage of it. However, probably time is definitely going to be a crunch as will be accompanied by my hosts until 8. 30 or even 9 pm.

9 PM is still early day for most of the agogo clubs. Suzi Wong in Soi Cowboy only starts with their shows around 9:30 PM.

I will be staying for 2 nights, either Novotel, Siam or the other one down sukhumvit road. Is this a GF hotel or do I have to show an ID.

Always be prepared that the girl has to show ID in your hotel, so make sure she has her ID with her when you take her with you. That has absolutely nothing to do with the hotel being guestfriendly or not. It is just a security measure.

I have got pointers from senior members like AO, Mumbaiguy, HSH, TonyIndian, iamramesh of how to have a good time. I will be having one afternoon post 3 pm and that evening free to myself. I then have only one night to myself. So this is what I plan to do.

1. First afternoon. Cherry Massage, would like to try the famous 3 sum combinations Bell, Focus and Game. Planning to try the Nuru massage here.

Nuru plus 3 girls is too much. Enjoy the Nuru massage with one girl. It is a wonderful experience on its own with a dedicated massage girl. You have to savor the delights, not overdose yourself.

2. Evening. Would like to experience a soapy, may be Eden or Annie's. Seniors would kindly request your suggestions.

Eden is not a soapy. It is the place to be for threesomes with somewhat older, but very experienced ladies with guaranteed A+ if you so choose.

3. Night. Plan to visit NEP. Not sure if I will take someone back to my hotel, may be go to ST hotel near by. Plan to check out angel witch, rainbow.

Unless you are superman, you will be exhausted by now and happy to crawl to your bed. Anyhow, no reason to go to an ST hotel when your own hotel is close by. Also, one of fhe things I like so much in Bangkok (or Thailand in general) is the option for LT. What could be nicer to have good sex in the evening, fall asleep in the arms of a SYT and in the morning have her take good care of your morning wood? All in the comfort of your hotel room.

Next night. BierGarten to try and pick up a free lancer back to the hotel. Guys many websites talk that there is a risk of these freelancers as we do not know if they have any diseases.

Risk of disease is everywhere. I don't think the risk is too big if you take the usual precautions (never go bareback; don't go with junkies or drunks). However as a newbie in Bangkok Biergarten is perhaps not the best place to be. Stick with the agogo or well known oilies and soapies. Why not visit Soi Cowboy for your second night?

I have had my share of 3 sums in India (hope I am not racially discriminated, have to say I am not stinky and absolutely hopeless in bargaining. Zero skills) but what I am looking out for here is total PSE, where I direct the whole scene.

In Eden Club you can be the Director of your own porn movie. Eden girls will do exactly what you ask them to do and you can watch yourself in the mirrors on the walls and ceiling.

Have fun in Bangkok, but don't stress it! Go with the flow and take it easy.

[Goodle]

I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow..

You are a well mannered old man. Please check your vision though -your Miami's prostitute is just OK looking.

[Utd1980]

Hi everyone.

I would be traveling to BKK in a couple of weeks for two nights onlyThis would be my first solo business trip and would like to take full advantage of it. However, probably time is definitely going to be a crunch as will be accompanied by my hosts until 8. 30 or even 9 pm.

I will be staying for 2 nights, either Novotel, Siam or the other one down sukhumvit road. Is this a GF hotel or do I have to show an I'd.

I have got pointers from senior members like AO, Mumbaiguy, HSH, TonyIndian, iamramesh of how to have a good time. I will be having one afternoon post 3 pm and that evening free to myself. I then have only one night to myself. So this is what I plan to do.

1. First afternoon. Cherry Massage, would like to try the famous 3 sum combinations Bell, Focus and Game. Planning to try the Nuru massage here.

2. Evening. Would like to experience a soapy, may be Eden or Annie's. Seniors would kindly request your suggestions.

3. Night. Plan to visit NEP. Not sure if I will take someone back to my hotel, may be go to ST hotel near by. Plan to check out angel witch, rainbow.

Next night. BierGarten to try and pick up a free lancer back to the hotel. Guys many websites talk that there is a risk of these freelancers as we do not know if they have any diseases.

I have had my share of 3 sums in India (hope I am not racially discriminated, have to say I am not stinky and absolutely hopeless in bargaining. Zero skills) but what I am looking out for here is total PSE, where I direct the whole scene.

[Uwillu]

I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow..

A hooker in Miami is $200 per hour. Have no idea where you spend a few thousand, but you are being taken. Check out Backpage or Craigslist.

As far as Bangkok, I don't spend 6,000 from escort agencies like you. I also don't spend money on photo-shopped MP girls, photo-shopped agency girls, or overpriced bar girls.

I hit the streets. Plain and simple. 1,000 short time is my offer. On soi 4 if you pay more than that for a freelancer you are being taken. You can find great girls this way, but my point is, there are a lot of scammers working this Soi. Your budget compared to most of us isn't the same. I don't fly 22 hours to spend 6,000 on a short time girl. I knock out overtime at work for 6 months to fly 22 hours to be with as many 1,000 baht girls as possible in my vacation.

In the end, I'd rather have 6 - 1,000 baht freelancers over a photo-shopped escort model anytime. Even the scammers. But they are all disappearing in Bangkok. Every freelancer thinks her pussy is worth 2,500, pregnancy scars in all.

[The Cane]

In an earlier post I asked about good mongering destinations other than Bangkok. Places in Latin America were suggested. These have been suggested by others. I mentioned a Cuban friend who loves Medellin. However, my Cuban friend has an older retired friend who rents his rather nice house in Miami and lives most of the year in Medellin. The guy says its because he can live lavishly there and the young ladies are much nicer than they are in Miami. However, about two years ago this guy visited Bangkok and told my friend he believed as a mongering destination it beats Medellin hands down. That is one opinion and who knows, maybe he met Aor while she was still at Annie's. His opinion has not dissuaded me from visiting Medellin at the first opportunity. Still, I feel compared to other destination when you consider the girls, the food, the exotic nature of the country and the cost, Bangkok is tough to beat.

I already know that although for me Bangkok will most definitely be better than Tijuana, it will never be able to supplant my number 1 (Brazil) or my number 2 (Germany). That's because my favorite kind of women for sexing are the Latinas and the white girls over most Asian girls. And, I love fucking my favorite types in the ass! My friend, I can go to Brazil or Germany and butt fuck my life away LOL! I haven't found any other places yet that compare when it comes to anal, and I doubt I ever will. But, spot number 3 is potentially available to be filled by Thailand. We shall see, we shall see. Right now Costa Rica sits at number 3 on my list of "permanent monger member nations". We shall see!

[Paul Kausch]

This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you.

I believe you misunderstood me. I was talking specifically about the call girl or escort scene in particular. I don't partake in that scene anywhere in the world because of the "bait and switch". You think one girl is going to show up, but somebody else shows up. Or, it's the same girl but 10 years older or something. And you have no good way to judge chemistry before a call girl shows up at your door. That's what I was talking about, and that can happen in Thailand just like anywhere else. Of course, you can run into a scam anywhere right? But, I don't get scammed or disappointed by arranging for "escorts" via telephone or the internet. Because I just don't do that. Anywhere. And speaking now to Phordphan, I have never had unrealistic expectations for any place I have ever visited before. That's because I do my research and know exactly what to expect. I'm going to love Bangkok far, far more than Tijuana! I'm going for both the mongering and more. And Bangkok (plus Phuket and Pattaya) are both going to offer a lot more that interests me as a tourist than Tijuana ever will! At least in my lifetime LOL!

I have never had experiences in Thailand like Uwillu describes. It has been a couple of years since I picked up an FL, but the last one I did she was great. I have booked numerous MP girls, mostly on outcall, escorts at several agencies and a number of bar girls at several bars on Soi Cowboy and in Nana Plaza. I don't recall a lady doing less than what she said she was willing to do and on a few occasions girls have volunteered to stay longer and offered more, Moojie in particular comes to mind. Many of the girls I now see know me. These girls often say I am jai dee and take very good care of me. I have no problems with the new girls; and when I run into them on subsequent trips many lobby me to take them out again. I'm an average looking man approaching 65. I don't haggle with the girls over money. I don't accept any "up to you" nonsense. I tell them to tell me how much they want. Sometimes they ask for too much and I say no; then they often come down. Usually they quote about what I'm prepared to pay. I tip the girl extra if the sex is good, generously if it's exceptional. Otherwise I don't tip, other than a hundred baht or two for a taxi. I've been known to give a few thousand bahts to ladies who I know from a reliable source are in serious need of money; and I ask for nothing in return. I swore to never forget there were times in my past when I was rescued by the generosity of friends. Simply put, I believe you reap what you sow.

In an earlier post I asked about good mongering destinations other than Bangkok. Places in Latin America were suggested. These have been suggested by others. I mentioned a Cuban friend who loves Medellin. However, my Cuban friend has an older retired friend who rents his rather nice house in Miami and lives most of the year in Medellin. The guy says its because he can live lavishly there and the young ladies are much nicer than they are in Miami. However, about two years ago this guy visited Bangkok and told my friend he believed as a mongering destination it beats Medellin hands down. That is one opinion and who knows, maybe he met Aor while she was still at Annie's. His opinion has not dissuaded me from visiting Medellin at the first opportunity. Still, I feel compared to other destination when you consider the girls, the food, the exotic nature of the country and the cost, Bangkok is tough to beat.

Finally, I posted the photo of the girl at the club in Miami to give an idea of how very hot the girls are here. Still, given a choice of fucking her or any of a dozen or so ladies I know in Bangkok, I'd take the Bangkok ladies hands down. Even though that lady's attitude improved the second time around it still didn't compare to the attitudes of the Bangkok ladies; and the sex with them is much better. Then, when you consider cost the comparison is ridiculous. A few hours with a high quality hooker in Miami will set you back a few thousand US dollars. We all know how far that will go in Bangkok.

[Goatscrot]

DF certainly has strip clubs and clubs where ladies are available to dance with, chat up, etc. , etc. As you've not been yet, I think you may have unrealistic expectations of what the BKK go-go scene has become. There is no "dancing" in any meaningful sense (with some exceptions), there is very little nudity (again, there are exceptions but these days it's not the norm), and, as many others have pointed out, the pricing schemes, "sick friend" scams, etc. , make the scene far less enjoyable than it once was and, far too often, you don't get what you pay for. This is no longer the pre-Purachai era, when a go-go bar was a wild den of debauchery, with naked women everywhere.

As a long-time Thailand uber-fan, I must say that the level of service in Tijuana now tends to surpass that of BKK. And that's a sorry state of affairs, indeed.

But more to the point, the OP asked for a similar place to BKK. DF's scene is certainly not identical to BKK. No place is. Latins roll differently than Asians or Gringos. But the scene is certainly robust, overall the pricing structure is cheaper, DF has all the modern conveniences of a big city, as does BKK. So, the point is that there are "equivalents" to BKK. One may prefer Asia over Mexico, certainly. But the days of BKK being a premier sex tourist destination (I. E. Loads of pretty girls, good value for money, lots of fun, etc.) are coming to a close. You may not like it, but the freelancer / call girl scene seems to be taking over BKK, too.

An excellent post. Yes, the "social-order" crackdown that started under Purachai in 02 was the beginning of the end. Early closing times, [CodeWord140] tests, less nudity changed the BKK GoGo scene for many different reasons, the most important being it was less fun for the gals.

Combined with an improving economy, police harassing street workers, and more recently various social media platforms and you have created the perfect storm. The "smart" gals are not dancing in GoGos or sitting in FL venues. They are working on LINE, We Chat, etc. From home.

I certainly prefer Asia. I love the food, the lack of machismo, and the attitude of the people. However, the P4 P scene in BKK is simply a shadow of its former self and I firmly believe this trend will continue. I foresee a day when GoGos are a thing of the past and not long after the soapies and oilies closing as well. It is inevitable with economic and social development. How long? 5 years, 10 years, certainly less than 20. My guess would put it somewhere between 5 and 15 years from now.

[Intransit]

They can but not all will. I could have easily squeezed her tits during the act but that's not my thing.

You may be able to do CIM in 69 if the girl's willing, but they may charge you for sex (1,200) instead of just a blow. The appeal of the blow work for women is that they believe they are exposing themselves to less disease / risk, and also that it's less intimate (See the film "Clerks" for a discussion of this.), so they may or may not do it.

So women don't get naked in BJ bars and we are not allowed to grope?

Also do you have any idea if CIM in 69 position is a possibility?

Thanks

[Rjsss212]

As a long-time Thailand uber-fan, I must say that the level of service in Tijuana now tends to surpass that of BKK. And that's a sorry state of affairs, indeed.

Really? Where are you finding girls for long time P4P in Tijuana? And where are you taking them?

[The Cane]

I agree with your statement about Mexico, but not your "baiting and switching" in Thailand. I lost count of the girls in Bangkok that agreed to my terms but only reveal they are on their period after we get to the hotel. Or their phone rings when they get back to my room because their girlfriend is sick and they can only do a blowjob and go. Or they get to the hotel, have stomach pain from food they ate earlier so they have to go, but ask for 300 baht for taxi. This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you. For bars, fewer customers mean raising the drink prices and barfines. For girls, fewer customers mean raising the price.

I believe you misunderstood me. I was talking specifically about the call girl or escort scene in particular. I don't partake in that scene anywhere in the world because of the "bait and switch". You think one girl is going to show up, but somebody else shows up. Or, it's the same girl but 10 years older or something. And you have no good way to judge chemistry before a call girl shows up at your door. That's what I was talking about, and that can happen in Thailand just like anywhere else. Of course, you can run into a scam anywhere right? But, I don't get scammed or disappointed by arranging for "escorts" via telephone or the internet. Because I just don't do that. Anywhere. And speaking now to Phordphan, I have never had unrealistic expectations for any place I have ever visited before. That's because I do my research and know exactly what to expect. I'm going to love Bangkok far, far more than Tijuana! I'm going for both the mongering and more. And Bangkok (plus Phuket and Pattaya) are both going to offer a lot more that interests me as a tourist than Tijuana ever will! At least in my lifetime LOL!

[Phordphan]

The problem with Mexico City is that there is no equivalent to the Thai go-go's, the German FKKs, or the Brazilian termas. I'm also not aware of any internationally well-known bars, clubs, or hotels in DF where working girls go to ply their trade. There could be a good MP scene, but I haven't investigated that yet. Of course, there is Tijuana, but Tijuana is no where on par with places like Bangkok, Rio de Janeiro, or Berlin (or even Frankfurt). Sure, for an American you don't have to travel half way around the world to get there. But, you get what you pay for. And with Tijuana, that's a city with a tiny P4P scene in comparison that's far, far removed from being anywhere near a world-class vacation destination. Yeah, if you live where it's convenient to get to it cool. But, nobody is going to convince me that Tijuana is just as good as Bangkok! Just looking at sheer choice and options alone, especially when you add in Pattaya and Phuket, Tijuana is a big loser on that count! I enjoyed Tijuana for what it is, but it can't compete favorably overall with with top-tier mongering destinations like Thailand, Brazil, and Germany! The one area where it seems to me that Mexico can compete is in the call girl scene. This is not what I prefer though. I want to go out to music, naked dancing, dining, drinking, and selecting my choices "live". I enjoy the social, in-your-face aspect of mongering in certain places, and I like to see what I'm getting before she shows up at my door. That puts a stop to "baiting and switching", and it allows you to see if you have any chemistry with the girl at all.

DF certainly has strip clubs and clubs where ladies are available to dance with, chat up, etc. , etc. As you've not been yet, I think you may have unrealistic expectations of what the BKK go-go scene has become. There is no "dancing" in any meaningful sense (with some exceptions), there is very little nudity (again, there are exceptions but these days it's not the norm), and, as many others have pointed out, the pricing schemes, "sick friend" scams, etc. , make the scene far less enjoyable than it once was and, far too often, you don't get what you pay for. This is no longer the pre-Purachai era, when a go-go bar was a wild den of debauchery, with naked women everywhere.

As a long-time Thailand uber-fan, I must say that the level of service in Tijuana now tends to surpass that of BKK. And that's a sorry state of affairs, indeed.

But more to the point, the OP asked for a similar place to BKK. DF's scene is certainly not identical to BKK. No place is. Latins roll differently than Asians or Gringos. But the scene is certainly robust, overall the pricing structure is cheaper, DF has all the modern conveniences of a big city, as does BKK. So, the point is that there are "equivalents" to BKK. One may prefer Asia over Mexico, certainly. But the days of BKK being a premier sex tourist destination (I. E. Loads of pretty girls, good value for money, lots of fun, etc.) are coming to a close. You may not like it, but the freelancer / call girl scene seems to be taking over BKK, too.

[Bart1]

I agree with your statement about Mexico, but not your "baiting and switching" in Thailand. I lost count of the girls in Bangkok that agreed to my terms but only reveal they are on their period after we get to the hotel. Or their phone rings when they get back to my room because their girlfriend is sick and they can only do a blowjob and go. Or they get to the hotel, have stomach pain from food they ate earlier so they have to go, but ask for 300 baht for taxi.

This is Thailand, everyone wants to scam you. For bars, fewer customers mean raising the drink prices and barfines. For girls, fewer customers mean raising the price.

Just returned from BKK, in agreement with your writings. My recent trip to BKK had the same negatives with the FL, s. I find works best for me to avoid the problems you mention, is to stick with the oilys and the soapies. Especially the soapies because talking with the chicas, I do not think the chicas are as free to move around as the oily girls. Possibly the chicas are under contract with the soapies whereas not so much with the oilys. I have deducted this with conversations with chicas working in both types of places. My point being the soapy chicas are more prone to wanting to have you leave happy and satisfied so you would not complain to the mamasan. Highly recommend the soapy Colonze 2 , but only after 3. 30 pm for lots of chicas. When you find a diamond then you can book for 1 pm or 2 pm appointment a fresh rose.

[Omigawd]

So women don't get naked in BJ bars and we are not allowed to grope?

Also do you have any idea if CIM in 69 position is a possibility?

Thanks

Pants off, get a cleaning. She started the blow without taking her top off, then I took my shirt off (didn't want to risk getting wayward cum on it), and she took hers off. Nice tits, a good handful. Good technique. Let her tits brush against my palms as she sucked me. Didn't last too long, shot it all in her mouth, she took every drop. Was in and out probably in 20 minutes. 800 fee, gave her 200 as a tip. A good value (US $25), and they open at 8 am! Imagine stopping in for a blow on the way to work.

Will try Dr. BJ's tomorrow to compare.