St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Mel365]

There are 3 very nice VIP rooms above Seamans.

They used to be $125- a night. You can rent them at the back desk in Carolinas.

If you take a chica up there there is no Multa.

Hey lucky strike, how much are the VIP rooms?

[GoodTimer]

Wow, thank you for all the replies, I'm blown away by the attention!

Mind if I ask a few follow up questions:

1. On the VIP room, I haven't read about this before. Is this a room that's separate from the main bar where me and my friends can book and hang out for a private party? Sounds like fun if so! How many can this room accommodate?

2. On renting cars, we'll all be pounding back the beers, and so am nervous about driving. I think we'll be sticking to taxis unless it interferes with the Chica transfers.

3. DavisLucJr: Thank you for the kind offer to help with the villas. Don't have PM privileges here yet. Any chance you could post it here? Even a general what to look for in a villa, location etc. I'm worried we'll book a fancy villa and then won't be able to get the chicas there. Cost isn't much of an issue, we've been saving a while for this trip and want to splurge for a once in a lifetime experience.

Thanks also for the advice on picking up from the same place, makes so much sense, we'll definitely be doing that!

[BobX99]

Hey lucky strike, how much are the VIP rooms?

One suggestion: rent a VIP room at Carolina (I think El Capitan also has one), buy a couple of bottles of JW Black and "interview" the chicas there. Have them do a quick pole dance, ask them to take off clothes, find out what they're willing to do so to prevent future disappointments. You may also want to weed out the crazies, stoners, cokeheads, etc unless, of course, you want to participate. In a word, see if you "feel the vibe. " If it's 4 of you, the cost of VIP room will be immaterial relative to the cost of the entire trip.

Have Fun!

L. S.

[Mel365]

Just to add my two cents- I have had great luck with chicas picking other chicas to take out with them.

If you are lucky you might run into a bisexual chica and her friend might even be in another club.

For example Defiance, ElCapitan, and Petite same owner.

Seamans and Carolinas same owner- so many of these chicas.

Know each other from other clubs. You just have to specify what you are looking for with the first chica.

I also second the idea of taking a chica for a test drive in the club before you invest in a dud.

Mel.

GoodTimer, you're about to wade in to my personal idea of the ultimate vacation. My travel mates and I have been renting villas for years now. Aside from the odd insignificant complaint with the villas themselves, we have never encountered an issue with safety. There's not much I can add that hasn't already been said.

A decent 4 BR villa will run you guys anywhere from $500-$800/ night. If you're coming from the USA, then rent one on the Dutch side (no need for adapters). And trust me, if you're planning on the 4 of you each brining someone back, you'll each want your own bedroom.

Definitely rent two cars, especially if you'll be transporting chicas back and forth.

Your TLD or TLN will most likely be $370 per chica. Most will be uncomfortable with the idea of "switching things up" back at the villa. Some will agree for a nominal charge per "extra" session with one of your roomies. The important thing is to talk about it beforehand.

I will also second (or third) the sentiments about trying to have the chicas you bring back know eachother beforehand. It really does make for a more comfortable and fun environment.

Two more pieces of advice:

1. Don't hesitate to test drive a chica at the club. Find someone you're comfortable with, build up a relationship, and then negotiate for the following day.

2. If this is truly a "once-in-a-lifetime" trip for you, then don't hold back. Leave no regrets on the island. Have fun, stay safe, and enjoy all that SXM has to offer. Most of all, don't forget to come back on the boards and tell us all about it!

Feel free to PM me for villa recommendations.

[DavisLucJr]

GoodTimer, you're about to wade in to my personal idea of the ultimate vacation. My travel mates and I have been renting villas for years now. Aside from the odd insignificant complaint with the villas themselves, we have never encountered an issue with safety. There's not much I can add that hasn't already been said.

A decent 4 BR villa will run you guys anywhere from $500-$800/ night. If you're coming from the USA, then rent one on the Dutch side (no need for adapters). And trust me, if you're planning on the 4 of you each brining someone back, you'll each want your own bedroom.

Definitely rent two cars, especially if you'll be transporting chicas back and forth.

Your TLD or TLN will most likely be $370 per chica. Most will be uncomfortable with the idea of "switching things up" back at the villa. Some will agree for a nominal charge per "extra" session with one of your roomies. The important thing is to talk about it beforehand.

I will also second (or third) the sentiments about trying to have the chicas you bring back know eachother beforehand. It really does make for a more comfortable and fun environment.

Two more pieces of advice:

1. Don't hesitate to test drive a chica at the club. Find someone you're comfortable with, build up a relationship, and then negotiate for the following day.

2. If this is truly a "once-in-a-lifetime" trip for you, then don't hold back. Leave no regrets on the island. Have fun, stay safe, and enjoy all that SXM has to offer. Most of all, don't forget to come back on the boards and tell us all about it!

Feel free to PM me for villa recommendations.

[Lucky Strike]

1. Should we rent a car or take a taxi?
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2. How safe / advisable is it to rent a nice villa with a pool.
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3. Is it better to try to pick up all 4 from one place, or will they be fine if we pick up from different places and have them come to our house by themselves at an appointed time? I got the impression they would come by themselves for TLD / TLN, is that not the case?

#1 I'd rent 2 cars 'cause there's 4 of you and rents are very inexpensive. Unless you'll be "impaired" to drive. That's not because of cops, that's for your own safety because, imo, it's not the easiest place to drive at night, especially if its raining. Also, there's a ton of other impaired drivers on the road. Taxi would be the safer.

#2 Definitely rent a villa if you're ok with cost / benefit. A ton of people rent villas, mostly near Orient bay (French side) but also in other places. There have been instances of burglaries / robberies / violent robberies, but stuff like that takes place on the island. 4 males in a villa would less likely be a target than most villas anyway.

#3 Chicas from the same bar will most likely be familiar with each other. If you think you may want 3-some,4-some, etc, let one chica that YOU like to pick or suggest the other chica for the 3-some. Chemistry between the 2 is the key. Chicas will not be able to leave the bars by themselves. You'll have to pick them up and I'd drop them off to ensure they get back and there are no issues. Maybe I'm paranoid but I don't want to be responsible for a chica on a work visa who disappears in a foreign country.

One suggestion: rent a VIP room at Carolina (I think El Capitan also has one), buy a couple of bottles of JW Black and "interview" the chicas there. Have them do a quick pole dance, ask them to take off clothes, find out what they're willing to do so to prevent future disappointments. You may also want to weed out the crazies, stoners, cokeheads, etc unless, of course, you want to participate. In a word, see if you "feel the vibe. " If it's 4 of you, the cost of VIP room will be immaterial relative to the cost of the entire trip.

Have Fun!

L. S.

[ClubTed]

Car rentals are very inexpensive in SXM. Go on Alamo, Hertz, National, any major rental site. Compacts are real cheap. If I were part of your group I'd rent 2 compact cars. This will allow you to split up if you so desire and give greater mobility. Always tough to please everyone when numbers grow.

Villas with pools are very safe to rent. Especially if there is private (gated) parking involved. Owners will have no problem with your fiesta. That's what the pool and grill are for! Plus if it accomodates 4+ people, they expect a crowd. Just be careful not to break anything or trash the place!

If you can pick 4 up in one club, all the more power to you! Tastes are different though, so 2 of you may be happy, but 2 of you may not. That's why I'd go with the 2 car setup. And for only 4 days, the added cost of another car is nothing. If 2 of you find 2 chicas. You don't want to be driving around taking them to another club or having them wait in the car. You want to make a quick run back to the villa and have the games begin!

The chica needs a ride to get to your place. I haven't read where any club delivers. You either catch the chica when her day shift ends and take her back during her free time, or negotiate a full day with an early morning pick-up, or a full night, with again you picking her up. You leave with the package, if you want to ensure it's going to get delivered to your address!

Wow thanks for the quick detailed replies guys, much appreciated!

We're going to be there for 4 days. Will definitely do some recon on day 1. We aren't planning on 4 on 1 We do plan on picking up 4 chicas, couple of questions on that:

1. Should we rent a car or take a taxi? I was thinking we'd just catch a cab over and then when it's time to head back to the villa, catch a couple of cabs and head over. Maybe even split up if some of us like chicas from Carolinas and some want to go scope out another place.

2. How safe / advisable is it to rent a nice villa with a pool. I'm not too worried about the cost of it, as I said. Bucket list items deserve the spend, but I haven't see any reports of a group doing that which worries me that I'm missing something. I have this picture of the 8 of us lounging by a villa pool, bbq in the background, music, beer, culminating in retiring to our rooms with our chicas (4 bedroom villa, no crazy stuff LOL) . Man I can't wait.

3. Is it better to try to pick up all 4 from one place, or will they be fine if we pick up from different places and have them come to our house by themselves at an appointed time? I got the impression they would come by themselves for TLD / TLN, is that not the case?

[BobX99]

To answer your questions.

1. Rent a car for sure. When you meet 4 girls to take back, you will need to also get a taxi (they very easy to find, there are always a bunch of them outside of Carolinas), unless you are able to get a van as Ted suggested.

2. Villas should be safe, and would probably be preferable to the girls.

3. I would highly recommend trying to get them all from the same place. They will feel more comfortable, as they will be with their friends, (or at least other girls they already know) which in turn will give you a more fun, happy, party type atmosphere around the pool for you.

You "could" get different girls from different places, but think of it from their prospective, how one girl with 3 other girls she has never met before and 4 guys she has also never met before, would feel. She is more than likely going to be much more reserved (and shy), than a girl with 3 of her girlfriends splashing around the pool playfully. If you are going to do a split, at least try to take 2 girls from the same two places, that way each girl as a friend to make them feel a bit more comfortable with being with 6 other people that they don't know. But taking 4 from the same place is by far the better option IMO.

Wow thanks for the quick detailed replies guys, much appreciated!

We're going to be there for 4 days. Will definitely do some recon on day 1. We aren't planning on 4 on 1 We do plan on picking up 4 chicas, couple of questions on that:

1. Should we rent a car or take a taxi? I was thinking we'd just catch a cab over and then when it's time to head back to the villa, catch a couple of cabs and head over. Maybe even split up if some of us like chicas from Carolinas and some want to go scope out another place.

2. How safe / advisable is it to rent a nice villa with a pool. I'm not too worried about the cost of it, as I said. Bucket list items deserve the spend, but I haven't see any reports of a group doing that which worries me that I'm missing something. I have this picture of the 8 of us lounging by a villa pool, bbq in the background, music, beer, culminating in retiring to our rooms with our chicas (4 bedroom villa, no crazy stuff LOL) . Man I can't wait.

3. Is it better to try to pick up all 4 from one place, or will they be fine if we pick up from different places and have them come to our house by themselves at an appointed time? I got the impression they would come by themselves for TLD / TLN, is that not the case?

[GoodTimer]

Wow thanks for the quick detailed replies guys, much appreciated!

We're going to be there for 4 days. Will definitely do some recon on day 1. We aren't planning on 4 on 1 We do plan on picking up 4 chicas, couple of questions on that:

1. Should we rent a car or take a taxi? I was thinking we'd just catch a cab over and then when it's time to head back to the villa, catch a couple of cabs and head over. Maybe even split up if some of us like chicas from Carolinas and some want to go scope out another place.

2. How safe / advisable is it to rent a nice villa with a pool. I'm not too worried about the cost of it, as I said. Bucket list items deserve the spend, but I haven't see any reports of a group doing that which worries me that I'm missing something. I have this picture of the 8 of us lounging by a villa pool, bbq in the background, music, beer, culminating in retiring to our rooms with our chicas (4 bedroom villa, no crazy stuff LOL) . Man I can't wait.

3. Is it better to try to pick up all 4 from one place, or will they be fine if we pick up from different places and have them come to our house by themselves at an appointed time? I got the impression they would come by themselves for TLD / TLN, is that not the case?

[ClubTed]

Nothing wrong with having fun in your early 60's! I hope I can keep the mojo going well beyond that! I'm sure you've read all the safety posts on this thread. But you're traveling in a group of 4 and numbers have power. Only thing you need to be careful of is to not get scammed by chicas who think they can have their way with you. For the most part, most of the girls are on the up and up, but you will run into an occasional shark that wants you to just buy her six dollar drinks and she'll sit on your lap. But that's about it, if you aren't going to take her back to her room. Remember, they are all economics majors. Supply vs. Demand! If you go to Carolinas in the afternoon and the place is packed, you'll get a brief intro from a chica and if you don't take the bait, she will move on. Plus, until the middle of April, it's high season.

Not sure how long you plan of staying on the island, but recon to gather intel is key. In other words, make some visits, get some names, take some notes for a day or two. Buy the chicas you are getting a good vibe with a drink, get some dialogue going. Then pull the trigger. Working hour takeout will involve a multa (bar fine) and make sure you get a clear understanding of the money she wants vs. What your expectation is. Anything is possible in St. Maarten and the price is negotiable. You won't have to worry about the vice squad breaking down your door for engaging in "illegal activities"!

The only potential problem I see is how you sell the 4 guy angle, since most Latin woman are into just one man. Not to say group things can't happen, but most of the posts on here, including my own experience, have been more focused on single encounters.

Hopefully you're renting a minivan if you plan on picking up 4 chicas for the 4 of you! One more and you can field a baseball team! Anyways, have fun, and anything is possible, you just have to ask!

Hey folks,

Been reading this thread with much gratitude for the work you guys have put it, got to start with saying thank you!

A friend of mine is retiring and moving out of state, and before he leaves we want to go for a trip of a lifetime. Someone suggested St. Martin, and reading the forum it looks like a good choice! Since we probably will never be able to do this again, we want to make it a trip to remember, and I'm hoping you guys would have the patience to answer questions of a newbie:

There are 4 of us going, all early 60's and for some of us the first time out of the country (US). We were thinking of renting a nice villa with a pool and getting chicas to our villa for a couple of 8 hour sessions. I haven't seen any posts in this forum about this option, everyone seems to do the quickie at the bar, or take them back to the hotel room. Despite my magic blue pill, once a day is all I manage so the bar quickie doesn't appeal, and it would be fun to lounge with my friends and 4 chicas at our villa pool, or get a tan going at the beach with the girls by our side.

Do you guys have any opinion on this, is this a good option? Anything to be careful of? I was thinking it would be $400-500 per chica per 8 hours (TLD or TLN), is that about right?

[Mel365]

You can take a chica out from her work from 12-4 then 4-8 is their free time so there is no bar fine for that and many times the chicas will not charge for the 4-8.

Had you looked into Campo Allegre (Curacao) --free admission for senior citizens. -Disneyland!!

Mel.

Hey folks,

Been reading this thread with much gratitude for the work you guys have put it, got to start with saying thank you!

A friend of mine is retiring and moving out of state, and before he leaves we want to go for a trip of a lifetime. Someone suggested St. Martin, and reading the forum it looks like a good choice! Since we probably will never be able to do this again, we want to make it a trip to remember, and I'm hoping you guys would have the patience to answer questions of a newbie:

There are 4 of us going, all early 60's and for some of us the first time out of the country (US). We were thinking of renting a nice villa with a pool and getting chicas to our villa for a couple of 8 hour sessions. I haven't seen any posts in this forum about this option, everyone seems to do the quickie at the bar, or take them back to the hotel room. Despite my magic blue pill, once a day is all I manage so the bar quickie doesn't appeal, and it would be fun to lounge with my friends and 4 chicas at our villa pool, or get a tan going at the beach with the girls by our side.

Do you guys have any opinion on this, is this a good option? Anything to be careful of? I was thinking it would be $400-500 per chica per 8 hours (TLD or TLN), is that about right?

[GoodTimer]

Hey folks,

Been reading this thread with much gratitude for the work you guys have put it, got to start with saying thank you!

A friend of mine is retiring and moving out of state, and before he leaves we want to go for a trip of a lifetime. Someone suggested St. Martin, and reading the forum it looks like a good choice! Since we probably will never be able to do this again, we want to make it a trip to remember, and I'm hoping you guys would have the patience to answer questions of a newbie:

There are 4 of us going, all early 60's and for some of us the first time out of the country (US). We were thinking of renting a nice villa with a pool and getting chicas to our villa for a couple of 8 hour sessions. I haven't seen any posts in this forum about this option, everyone seems to do the quickie at the bar, or take them back to the hotel room. Despite my magic blue pill, once a day is all I manage so the bar quickie doesn't appeal, and it would be fun to lounge with my friends and 4 chicas at our villa pool, or get a tan going at the beach with the girls by our side.

Do you guys have any opinion on this, is this a good option? Anything to be careful of? I was thinking it would be $400-500 per chica per 8 hours (TLD or TLN), is that about right?

[ClubTed]

Decided to bite the bullet and pay a bit more in airfare than I normally do and visit the island for 6 days. My usual place that I stay in Oyster Pond is booked. My fault for bad planning. I found another place in Oyster Pond and I should be good to go. Although again paying more due to it's a nicer property and the high season. Actually I'll be able to walk to Casablanca, that's how close the place is to the club. I may actually do that during the afternoon. Tie one on at the bar with the chicas. And make the short walk back to my place. (it's right next to the Pizza joint on Rue de Lagon, for those familiar with Oyster Pond.).

I had a chance to get a better deal at a place in Mount Vernon which is the north part of Orient Beach. The old Mt. Vernon Hotel has been converted to timeshares or apartments I guess. Thanks to someone on this board that enlightened me about the airbnb.com website. I was about to pull the trigger and get the Mount Vernon Place. But it's pretty far away from the clubs. Oyster Pond is about a 10 minute drive to Carolina's and even closer to Casablanca, Sunset, and Defiance.

I've read they've got some chicas at Defiance. Last time I was on island in Dec. I just missed the arrival of 10 or so. Curious to see what talent, if any is there right now. Hoping to reconnect with the lovely I met at Hypnotic last visit. Since this is high season, I'm guessing Carolina's will be packed with cruise ship passengers in the 11 to 3:30 pm Window. I'll make the obligatory rounds, but finally settle in at one or two clubs to work on a chica I want to develop something with.

I'm all set with my girl at Hypnotic, and plan on having a barbecue Sunday during her free time (4-7) at my place. Been talking with her via email and she's on board! Needless to say my visits to Hypnotic will be purely dedicated to her, even though I spied another beauty last visit that I would have loved to spent time with.

There's also a pretty cute Domincana at LE Petite Chateau, that goes by the name Paola I believe. I spoke at length with her last visit, but never took the plunger. Plan on doing so this time. While at the bar in the afternoon she did the usual groping and come on with me. Then pulled her top down and revealed some of the biggest nipples I've ever seen in my life! Anyone that might have been with her knows what I'm talking about. And if you have been with her. Was it worthwhile? LE Petite is sometimes skiddish in the afternoon. Again the dam cell phones. The chicas don't put the full court press effort in like they used to. Guess they save it for at night and sit and text during the afternoon at will.

If anyone is on island from the 19th to the 25th, pm me and we can meet up for some cold Presidentes and enjoy the scenery!

[Party Boy]

I found a really cheap flight and I decided to do a last minute 4 day trip to SXM leaving on Christmas Day. I was there at the beginning of November and many of the same girls were still there. I ended up going with the same girls from last time, Johanna, Vanessa, and Dolly, (see my reviews on post 5404). Any of these three girls give great service and I would highly recommend any of them.

For those who want to know for next year, apparently Carolina's was open during the day on Christmas but was closed at night. Seamans / Hypnotic bar was also closed but many of the girls were hanging out in the lobby area and they were all open for business. I ended up having another nice session with Dolly. As I drove off, I also noticed that El Captain was closed.

After, I went over to Carolina's to see if I could find Johanna. As I mentioned, the bar was closed so I went to the backdoor and gave it a knock. A girl let me in and I was able to meet up with Johanna. She agreed to come back to my hotel with me. So in the end, I got my TLN with Johanna that I was unable to do from my last trip. An added bonus was this TLN had no multa.

On this trip I had to split my accommodations up due to the lack of vacancies. I stayed at Baker's Suites in Simpson Bay which I would recommend given the fair price and large suites with full kitchen and good cable TV. I also had to stay one night at Joshua Guesthouse, which was basically a step up from a hostel. The place is super old but you cannot beat the location which is located on Back Street in Philipsburg, a 5 minute drive to Carolina's. If you want the bare minimum, this is the place for you at $75 a night. Just don't plan on doing a TLN here!

[Mel365]

Great work,

Do you have any names or room numbers? That is what everyone is looking for.

I always carry a pen and a piece of paper. After the session I ask them for their phone number as I always forget their name. They almost always print their name, room number, and phone.

Mel.

Hi Mel,

I understand what you say. Ultimately they are not there to chit chat but only to "chichar" (to f. In Spanish slang).

With time and by chit chatting, I learnt some Spanish. Some chicas say I am good at it.

I found a new game, I ask each girl to give me a few romantic sentences that I use for the next one.

I give you 2:

- Tu eres una mujer encantadora (you are a wonderful woman).

- Contigo perdere mi control. (with you I loose control).

Also after a few vodka orange, I find myself talking Spanish much better.

Seriously, I would say that the places here are fun because the ratio man / chicas is good. I don't like to fight for a chica but I like to see them fight for me. Ah ah ah.

EL Capitan: may be 15-20 chicas actually. It is the one I hit the most recently. One session is $50 for 20 min and $10 for the room. When you know the chica, she will give you more time and you will only pay an extra $10 for the room for each extra 20 mins but it is only if you are a returning customer and don't abuse it!

Casa Blanca: I like the amount of girls available and the place is spacious.

Defiance: Usually I avoid it because the quality and quantity of chicas is not top and the place looks empty most of the time but I don't know why I decided to try again and. Oh gosh. This mixed mulatto light skin girl with green eyes was wonderful. We first had a one hour session and she looked like if she enjoyed it. After she was singing in the shower, what a nice sensual voice. I was lucky that day. I took her also for 24 H for $300 (high season in SXM).