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03-02-15 14:51 #23672Nice report.
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Sounds like you have had the kind of good times that can continue without major incidents. I hope to hear more from your experiences.
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03-02-15 14:25 #23671
Haven123's report and learning bachata
Here is a guy who has his own system and it works for him. He seems to live in the real world and is not trying to impress anyone else with bullshit or philosophical generalizing. Incidentally, I don't remember ever helping him, but am glad if I did in some small way.
As for learning bachata, I suggest he spends time at Rio Verde, recently discussed on this board (post #23434 and subsequent). It has the double advantage of being a local dance-hall for family groups and couples and at the same time incorporating a brothel so there are always putas available to spend time with him and teach him to dance. I don't know how good his Spanish is, but he would need to make it clear he is not paying hourly rates for sex just for dance practice. The girls rarely get customers for sex during opening hours and work for small tips to dance with customers or sit at their tables, so I am sure Haven123 could offer them more without breaking the bank. Most of the chicas are not very attractive, but all he needs is one who is patient and pleasant.
The only possible place I can think of within Sosua (please chip in if you have other suggestions) is Rancho Tipico which has recently expanded its dancing area but the chicas there are more used to sponging off gringos and would be more demanding. Some very attractive haitianas there, but they are not the best bachata teachers.
Either place he should avoid the weekends, as the quieter the better. More room on the dance-floor and less competition for the chicas' attention.
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03-02-15 08:17 #23670
Have not logged in or posted in about a year. Sorry. But 5th trip in 15 months soon
Hello all. Particular thanks to Charles Poota (haha) and all those who helped me on my first trip to DR last year.
I have now spent about 4 1/2 months in total in the Puerto Plata area over the last 14 months. About 1. 5 -2 months in Costambar and the rest in Sos.
I used to love the D Latins and was very disappointed it shut down after my second trip. For now, I like Classicos and After 1 as I am a late night guy and love music, dance and ambiance of the sexy looking pro chicas!
Finally, I decided I want to learn Bachata and hope to take lessons this upcoming trip and also practice with some Cupid Chicas. I love the ambiance of all the chicas at Classicos, After 1 (Thur. , Fri. And sat after about 245 am until 5 am) and the Latins I loved while it was open. I only interact with the pros on the dance floor and buy drinks etc. But limit myself to the Cupid chicas for companionship. Yeah, I am a bit different, perhaps even strange and maybe a dud! Who knows? I can only do what works for me. FWIW.
I enjoy the true dominican culture, the food like rice and beans and just observing the families on the beaches. I've also spent some time at the all inclusive resorts on many occasions with Cupid chicas and did BB for 5 days on my first trip (did not care for it). The pros don't work for me at all, and other than on my first trip while at BB's and 2 at the DLatins, the rest have ALL been the semi or ocassional pros. I've kind of got this Cupid thingy working for me. I never mention money and discretely put it in their purse when they leave. I do bring gifts like 100 ML brand name perfumes, earrings and so far 3 cell phones, shirts / blouses / Brazilian bikinis and a for / with a few some shopping locally. However, in the end, they all do better with me than the 2000 they might get in a day and I treat them well to fish at the beach at top resturante or at a Baileys etc for good meals and quality drinks. And I have only stayed at Casa Cayena or apartments in Costambar, within 3 minute walk to the beach and the chicas all get breakfast and meals while with me.
I see some chicas on follow up trips and it is usually 1/3 from previous trips and 2/3 new chicas. I don't care at all (zero for the 1-2 hour thing) and prefer 1-3 days at a time. So, the total number of chicas I have been with are probably a fraction of most guys here. But that's what I like and what works for me.
The intent of this post is to share. Since I hadn't in some time. And also to suggest (like some others here) that staying away from the hard core pros, venturing into the quiet and low key Dominicanas (I stick to between 4-8 on the top 1-10 scale, and stay away from the 9's and 10's. Because I like the personality of the 6's and 7 's the best) and perhaps trying to show some of them a good time (the non hard core pros) , not mentioning pesos upfront, and always making it pesos Płus gifts worth at least 1000 pesos each per Chica for each 1-2 days and still ensuring they leave happy and exceed their expectations (by discreetly giving them about 2000 per day of cash, so they leave with at least 5000- 7000 or more for each 2-3 days, besides meals and good entertaining times).
In my solo and subjective opinion, the hard core chica situation in SOS is pretty sad and I strongly believe that visitors who are coming now are reaping what the visitors who came before them have sowed. Meaning many, if not most, treated them poorly, the chicas live in their Echo chamber of the other chicas, ricocheting stories off each other while at Rumbas, or on the phone and via texts.
Guys come and guys go...back to their regular non DR lives....but these chicas have to live it day in and day out....there are no jobs and the education system in the DR in school is shit! They have no skils and no opportunities. These chicas cannot survive anywhere other than in the DR, even the non pros. But, if we collectively keep up, not at least trying in some small way, to give them some little thing to hang their mental hat on....something that says we did not treat them poorly....then things will only get more and more trashy in SOS 1-3-5 years down the road. If you don't care, then they don't care. Of course, please nobody end up trying to marry these pros or semi pros, or trying to change them, or take them out of the DR or whatever....in 98 % of the cases it simply will NOT work. But, perhaps trying to bring some temporary brightness and lift up the spirits of the non hard core chicas is worth doing? This is just my opinion, from my observations, and interactions while there with both chicas and amigos. And of course, reading the posts here. Sorry state of affairs I must say....the playing field is soggy, quite a bit muddied up and the pro chicas are learners .....and they have learned the hard way with what many have been shoved with.
I am sure many will not like what I say and will disagree strongly. And that's fine...and I happy to be slapped around here....but guys please think about changling the approach some ?? Please.....
May be another way to approach the Non pro DR chicas. If Cupid chicas bring up pesos or ask me to wire them dineros or ask me to bring them an iPhone I just delete that one and focus on the others. I never ask them to send me pics (because Cupid has pics and in 2/3 of the instances I also get to see their Facebook pages. I review everything carefully to form a composite view (subjective, of course) of each chica by seeing the FB posts, the ones by their friends etc and also branch out by contacting their FB friends and friends of friends.
Anyway, in closing, one request, if anyone has any suggestions for me or where, with whom, when and how to really learn Bachata well, when I am Sos in the coming weeks (for 2-3 weeks) I would really appreciate it. Of course, I am happy to pay chicas for helping me learn Bachata. My interest in this is longer term, because I think I am really liking this dance form / expression and it gives me different ways to experience and live the culture and enjoy life in a more diverse and interactive way. And of course it has greater staying power for pleasure and enjoyment, versus say a 30 minutes quickie.
I have taken a lot of time to observe, gather feedback, look at facts and reflect on all of this for more than a year. So, I am not just posting without having thought about all of this for quite some time and critiqued myself, as well as my observations. And, these are just my observations and suggestions. Take it for FWIW or just delete, say pass, or chuck it mentally into a mental trash can. Irrespective, it is worth some reflection on the part of all and maybe some small slight adjustment in approach. The chicas will not do this...they are incapable of doing anything, because they have no options, and find themselves at the receiving end of an experience.
Sure, yeah, there are bad chicas, who will take an amigo for all they've got, rip them off, steal whatever....but IMO 75 pc of the chicas are not crooks, thieves or bad apples. They are just trying to survive and many probably do enjoy a lifestyle of fun and excitement...clothes, dance, music, booze and whatever. After all, they are all pretty much in the 18-28 range.
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03-01-15 17:36 #23669
OPs
Sorry, I put the hotel list in the wrong thread.
Short Time:
Dulce Secreto, cabanas over just short of Voramar and across from the kids school, about 500RD for a real nice room.
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03-01-15 08:04 #23668
It is good that somebody took the time to resurrect that list. Hell it has been 4 years!
Have a look at this old post: http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...401&viewfull=1#post1111401.
If you take the time to follow the instructions in the first paragraph, you will get a numbered map that corresponds to the text in the list. I am sure many here will get quite a chuckle out of it.
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03-01-15 06:03 #23667
Outstanding Work
This should be on the wall of fame. Just excellent and accurate information.
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03-01-15 05:39 #23666When I flew into Santo Domingo, I took a cab from the airport to the caribe tours bus station. And from the bus station in Sosua I got into a motorcycle. I can't remember the prices but it wasnt much. Originally Posted by MCampbel98
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In sosua I stayed at Casa Cayana. If you want to be close to the action stay at new garden. Casa Cayana is isolated from the action. Girls don't hang out there. If you are looking for a quiet place then try casa Cayana. At new garden there are plenty of girls who stop at the bar or just walk up and down the street. IF you see one that you like you can call her. At casa Cayana you will have to walk to rumba or the main street to get girls. Its only 5 min walk thought. Both can work for you depending on what's important to you.
Next time I may try casa Valeria and new garden.
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03-01-15 01:04 #23665
Hotels
I put together a few hotels. I am sure there are a few more.
1. Sosua by the Sea, Calle Bruno Philips, El Batey. Rates: $80-110. Tel: (809) 571-3222. http://www.sosuabythesea.com/.
2. *Europa Plaza Hotel, Danny's Bar, Pedro Clisante #14. Rates: $40. Tel: +1 809-571-3335. http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/.
3. Plaza Europa. Calle Pedro Clisante #16, El Batey. Rates: $35-. Tel: 1-809-571-3335,1-809-571-3479 http://www.hotelplazaeuropa.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hotel...30782653678731.
4. Hotel D'Piero. Rates: $40-55. http://www.hotelpierososua.com/english.html https://www.facebook.com/hotelsosuapiero.
5. Hotel El Colibri. Calle Pedro Clisante #141 El Batey. Rates: $33-58. Tel: 809.571. 1847. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Hotel...11665282218542.
6. Hotel Las Palmeras de Don Antonio, Calle Dr. Rosen #3, El Batey. Rates: $36-38. Tel: +1 (809) 571-2662. http://hotel-las-palmeras.com/country-guide/sosua-en/.
7. Hotel Orchidee. Calle Dr. Rosen #24, El Batey. Rates: $27-38. Tel: +1 829-380-0715. http://www.hotelorchidee.ch/.
8. Rocky's, Calle Dr. Rosen #24, El Batey, El Batey, Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic. Telephone (Spanish): (809) 571-2951 Cellular (English): (809) 481-2951. Rates: $27. http://www.rockysbar.com/.
9. Sosua Suites Condos, Calle Dr. Rosen #24, El Batey. Rates: $60-70. Tel: 809.771. 5777, Cell: 809.481. 2951. http://sosua-suites.com/.
10. *Casa Cayena, Calle Dr. Rosen #25, El Batey. Rates: $65-105. Tel: +1 (809) 571-2662. http://www.casacayenahotel.com/ Gives ISG discounts.
11. *Terra Linda Resort, Calle Dr. Rosen #26 - El Batey, Sosa. Rates: $85-115. Tel: US and Canada: +1-866-332-3590. http://www.terralindaresortsosua.com....htm?lbl=yh-en.
12. Casa Valeria, Calle Dr. Rosen #28, Sosa, El Batey. Rates: $50-60. Tel: +809 571 3565. http://hotelcasavaleria.net/.
13. *New Garden Hotel, Calle Dr. Rosen #32. Rates: +1 (809) 571-2662. http://www.newgardenhotel.net/ X Gives ISG discounts.
14. Apart-Hotel Romanoff, Calle Ayuntamiento, El Batey. Rates: $30. Tel: 809-885-2337. Fax: 809-907-4503. http://www.hotel-dominican-republic....off-sosua.html.
15. Hotel Sea Breeze, Alejo Martinez # 10, El Batey. Rates: $40-60. Tel: 809-571-4712. http://hotelseabreezesosua.net/.
16. Mary Rose, Dr Alejo Martinez #33, El Batey. Rates: $45-64. Tel: 809 882 8221. http://www.maryrosedr.com/.
17. Coco Hotel. Calle Alejo Martinez #131. Rates: $30-40. Tel: 1-809-571-3217. http://www.cocohotelcoco.com/.
18. Hotel Ana Celia, Calle Prolongacion Pedro Clisante #35, El Batey. Rates: $40. Tel: 1-809-5711332, Toll Free from Canada and United States 1-800-753-6198. http://www.hotelanaceliasosua.com/.
19. Playa Chiquita, Avenida Martinez Casino Playa Chiquita, Cabarete. Rates: $40. Tel: 809 571-3416. http://www.playa-chiquita.com/.
20. Hotel Voramar Sosua, Alejo Martinez Playa Chiquita. Rates: $40- 45. Tel: Phone (001) 809-571-3910. http://hotelvoramar-sosua.com/home/home.php.
21. Coral Blanco Hotel, Calle Argentina, Playa Chiquita. Rates: $50. Tel: 1 829 9247900, (USA):
1 609 9100444. http://coralblanco.com/?page_id=60.
22. Tropix Hotel, Camino del Libre #7. Rates: $56. Tel: +1-809-571-2291. http://www.tropixhotel.com/.
23. Hotel Don Andres, Calle Alejo Martinez #6, Cabarete. Rates: $32-52. Tel: Dicky Voorburg +1-809-8757890, Henri van der Aa +1-809-8562005. http://www.hoteldonandres.com/.
24. *BlackBeards Adult Resort.
Costambar Beach, Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic.
Reservations: 1-809-970-3268.
E-mail: Info@BlackBeardsadultresort.com.
http://www.blackbeardsadultresort.com/
* Chicas in the hotel bar.
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02-28-15 20:08 #23664
If you really want quiet, try Casa Valeria. IMO it's almost too quiet. Casa Cayena is great, but it can be a bit noisy, depending on who your neighbors are.
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02-28-15 18:09 #23663
Sosua Suites isn't exactly quiet, but it's not loud either. It's right across from Rocky's, and the apartments are spacious and clean. During the night you can hear a little bit of music from the bars nearby, Rumba's is right around the corner. But it's a convenient location, if you are on the second floor it's a good view of Calle Dr Rosen and some talent that walks by at all hours of the day. There is a security guard on site at night.
If you want quietness, I'd suggest Casa Cayena. Well priced, the rooms are clean and comfortable and you have breakfast and dinner included in the price (if Wilfried still has that special which I believe he does). It's about a 4 minute walk from Rocky's and it's still a convenient location. Actually a good number of hotels in Sosua are within walking distance of all the action, I don't think I've stayed anywhere that isn't more than a 5 minute walk. And it's pretty safe to walk around (as long as you're being sensible. Don't wear a noticeable watch or pull out your smartphone where it's visible to everyone.) There are lots of punters walking around at all times during the day, during the night I'd advise some caution. The less people you see on the street and the later it gets, the more vulnerable you become. Common sense stuff.
If you're able to fly into POP, the action is just 15 minutes (maybe not even 15 minutes) away. I'll fly into STI because POP is a more expensive airport to fly into, or sometimes I'll fly into POP and leave out of STI.
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02-28-15 17:12 #23662
Is Sousa Sites quiet? Is there another place close to Rocky's comparable price that is quiet? Thanks
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02-28-15 14:40 #23661Or you can stay at Sosua Siites which Rick also manage. Its right across from Rocky. Mary Rose is to far from the strip in my opinion. Originally Posted by WorldTraveler3
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02-28-15 08:02 #23660Casa Cayena. Originally Posted by MCampbel98
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http://www.casacayenahotel.com/
Autobus.
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02-28-15 03:59 #23659
Rockys
Unless your on a very tight budget I wouldn't say a Rockys because it's right next to the strip so its not quiet and now from understanding its just a very basic room. To not take money from Rick's pocket I suggest Mary Rose was there not long ago, but water off and on so I say just go with Casa Cayenna. Originally Posted by WorldTravel69
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02-28-15 03:36 #23658
Fly
Or like me I screwed up. I should have flown into POP.
It is a $40 dollar taxi to the bus station.
How fucking dumb that they do not have the bus at the airport.
So, like me on Monday I will try to share a taxi to SD and take the bus.
I getting in too late for 11 am Metro bus, so I have Caribe Tours.
Caribe Tours (809-221-4422; www.caribetours.com.do; corner of Av 27 de Febrero & Av Leopoldo Navarro; and Latest departure for Caribe Tours is 7 pm. Travel time to is 3 hours and 30 minutes, and the fare is 320 pesos.
Metro (809-227-0101; www.metroserviciosturisticos.com; Calle Francisco Prats Ramrez) have individual depots west of the Zona Colonial. Caribe Tours has the most departures, and covers more of the smaller towns than Metro does. http://www.caribetours.com.do/viajes.
In Santo Domingo, the Metro bus station is located at Av. Churchill and Calle Francisco Prats Ramirez. Metro departures for Sosa are at 7 am, 11 am and 4 pm.
Metro Tours is located at Calle Principal (main highway) and Dr. Rosen in El Batey.
As for staying, I have not been in Sosua for 13 years, so I am going to try Rocky’s. I asked for a quiet room in the back. I sure that will not happen, but it is cheap.
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