Angeles City

[Capt Munch]

I just came back from Walking Street. There were about half a dozen police men standing near Kokomo's. I've seen them quite a lot recently, since about 1 or 2 weeks ago, can't recall that exactly. They are not doing anything. They are just standing there and keeping an eye on everything I guess. They are not chasing away or arresting street walkers or anything like that. Although I wouldn't recommend to negotiate with a SW right under their eyes.
I've also seen a couple of tourist police officers. I cannot recall that I've ever seen so much police in Walking Street before.

Nemesis is open again. I've not been inside so I don't know how many girls are back. About a year ago they were also raided when I was here (no, there's no correlation LOL!). Back then the number of girls was drastically reduced when they reopened.

Yes. . . . depending on when your last visit was to Angeles. . . There has been additional Station 4 police assigned to Walking Street. I would guess that it has been easily going on for the past 6 months, maybe longer.

They seemed to have started the extra police support around the time that they made a bigger effort to make it into Walking Street not what it was before.

Except for the "ACMETMO" police that are tasked with getting rid of any cars / motorcycles / food carts sometime after 4 or 5 PM, the Station 4 guys do wander up and down the street and also seem to be stationed on the corner at Kokomos. You should be able to recognize the ACETMO officers as usually they are the only ones that ARE allowed to ride their motor scooters up and down the Walking Street and wear orange shirts with the logo on the back.

I have never seen the Station 4 police actually do anything or interfere with anyone but then I am never down there between midnight and 5 am when all hell could be breaking loose for all I know.

I feel safer (LOL) now that they are there.

Munch.

[Mogwai]

There were police everywhere and at least for a short while, things seemed almost like the real world. I would imagine that petty crime was down.

Now. . . Things are right back to where they were before the conference.

With little (mostly NO) enforcement, we are back to every Filipino ignoring ALL the rules.

It would be a good guess that there will be more raids, the city must have tallied quite a bill supporting the APEC conference and trying to put their best show on.

Munch.

I just came back from Walking Street. There were about half a dozen police men standing near Kokomo's. I've seen them quite a lot recently, since about 1 or 2 weeks ago, can't recall that exactly. They are not doing anything. They are just standing there and keeping an eye on everything I guess. They are not chasing away or arresting street walkers or anything like that. Although I wouldn't recommend to negotiate with a SW right under their eyes.
I've also seen a couple of tourist police officers. I cannot recall that I've ever seen so much police in Walking Street before.

Nemesis is open again. I've not been inside so I don't know how many girls are back. About a year ago they were also raided when I was here (no, there's no correlation LOL!). Back then the number of girls was drastically reduced when they reopened.

[Sonjai]

I'm thinking of visiting Angeles and will appreciate if the members who have been there over the last 12 months could tell me if the type of girls I'm interested in are available in the town's bars and agogos. I'm after relatively tall gals (at least 165 cm /5'5") of slim built and with fair skin. From my last experience, 5 why old now, in the country I know that most girls available to Western sex tourists are dark and rather midgets like. It used to be different of course and in the early 90's when I started frequenting the Philippines I often encountered truly model type girls. I'm talking about sweet old times when Ermita was still a bustling center of adult nightlife. Last time I was in Angels I was appalled by the quality of working girls there. It was such a contrast with what I remembered about it. Anyway, perhaps things have changed now and the quality has improved. So the question again is how much luck I'm likely to have in Angeles if I only look for tall fair-skinned chicks? I fully appreciate that if there are such ladies available they are likely to be more expensive than the average bar hostess.

Thanks in advance for any relevant information.

[Smoothy]

Its seems all girls like mirrors.

Which hotel is that with the mirrors?

[Capt Munch]

It is important that forum members keep all up to date on the raids that are happening.

With APEC out the way, expect more raids, endemic corruption, filthy streets and gangs of beggars / worse.

The usual nonsense is back. . . .

While the APEC conference was going on, they had lots of extra police from other areas of the Philippines here (probably quite a few from Manila region) and things operated pretty smoothly.

With increased traffic enforcement and re-routing of the Perimeter Road traffic, traffic was light. Perhaps after the first few days, all the Filipinos that like to drive cars / motorcycles without current registrations and motorcyclists without helmets etc. All stayed home rather than risk fines.

The Department of Social Welfare had rounded up all the street children and parked them somewhere. They were absent for almost the whole conference.

The gypsy ladies with the babies were absent.

There was not really any noticeable reduction in Vitamin salesmen (LOL).

There were police everywhere and at least for a short while, things seemed almost like the real world. I would imagine that petty crime was down.

Now. . . Things are right back to where they were before the conference.

With little (mostly NO) enforcement, we are back to every Filipino ignoring ALL the rules.

It would be a good guess that there will be more raids, the city must have tallied quite a bill supporting the APEC conference and trying to put their best show on.

Munch.

[ThatGuy865]

The raid was about the usual. Getting payment from the bar. No customers were taken. Although customers are not allowed to leave until the entire process completed.

The customer had to pay their bill and sit until they finished clearing the bar. That took 3 1/2 hrs.

Raids are about the Bars and the girls. Not the customers. They want to catch BM / BO for H / T and any one involved in the transaction. Waitress, mamasans.

The BGs are taken as a means to extort money from the owners. They place a "fine" on each girl knowing the girls can't pay. Rumors are about 15 to 20,000 p per girl.

So the only way the girls get out is for the owner or "lawyer / representative" to pay. If he don't have girls, he can't open the bar. Simple as that. So they pay.

[ConquerorVal]

Her: They actually get our phones and money. But for sure they do it about money. They might ask for our company to pay them to let us go out.

Wow. That is really fucked up!! Have not got my shit together enough to post my reports on AC and Pattaya, but I have to say I have met some great mongers during this trip, including you Mr. E. Master Monger lives up to his name-above and beyond mongering, and Captain Munch provided me with some wisdom and good company. Can't wait to return. Will post soon.
Sorry, about the blurred second photo, but this girl loved mirrors. Its seems all girls like mirrors.

[Wolvenvacht]

What is APEC? Do you really think there will be more raids?

Google is your friend: Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation - www.apec.org/.

[RumBuddy]

It is important that forum members keep all up to date on the raids that are happening.

With APEC out the way, expect more raids, endemic corruption, filthy streets and gangs of beggars / worse.

What is APEC? Do you really think there will be more raids?

[Mr Enternational]

I received a text from a friend that was on Fields / Walking Street last night that around 10:30 last night that Nemesis was being raided.

I hit a friend up who works at Nemesis as soon as Capt Munch made the original post. I did not hear from her until an hour ago.

Her: Hi. Just got home. Our bar. Police raid us. I was at the police station for almost 3 night.

Me: Why.

Her: Police raid us.

Me: Why raid?

Her: I dnt know.

Me: They take customers too?

Her: Se says humtkg. And some says mark money from barfine. I dnt know about costumer.

Me: That is fucked up.

Her: Hell yeah your right. Dnt have sleep for 2 days. No food too. No everything. Police is shit in our country.

Me: You have to pay something?

Her: They actually get our phones and money. But for sure they do it about money. They might ask for our company to pay them to let us go out.

Me: But they do not make you pay anything?

Her: I think the owner of bar already pay them. But the sad thing is they also take our money.

Me: Damn.

Her: This is really suck. Well I thank god I'm home now. But I heard the others still inside. Only waitresses they let go home first.

Me: Wow. I have to go to the dentist now. Talk later.

Her: Ok.

[Fastpiston]

Probably not since the Sisters Bar raid last year in May has there been any rumors of patrons being taken as part of a raid. That was reportedly because some of those patrons did NOT have "I_D".

So. . . . it is always a good idea to make a copy of your passport page and carry that with you. I presume that would be adequate as a means of establishing your identification while explaining to the officer that the real passport is safely tucked away in the hotel safe.

I was NOT present for the Nemesis raid (just got the text messages from my friend) so I can't say whether the CIDG just cleared the bar of the patrons or if they tried to establish who they were.

Remember that there are still pickpockets working Fields / Walking Street and don't carry anything that you can't afford to lose including "I_D".

Be safe.

Munch.

It is important that forum members keep all up to date on the raids that are happening.

With APEC out the way, expect more raids, endemic corruption, filthy streets and gangs of beggars / worse.

[Capt Munch]

So, haven't seen a lot about raids in the forum, do they only take away the girls or do the patrons get taken away as well? Is this something to watch out for?

Probably not since the Sisters Bar raid last year in May has there been any rumors of patrons being taken as part of a raid. That was reportedly because some of those patrons did NOT have "I_D".

So. . . . it is always a good idea to make a copy of your passport page and carry that with you. I presume that would be adequate as a means of establishing your identification while explaining to the officer that the real passport is safely tucked away in the hotel safe.

I was NOT present for the Nemesis raid (just got the text messages from my friend) so I can't say whether the CIDG just cleared the bar of the patrons or if they tried to establish who they were.

Remember that there are still pickpockets working Fields / Walking Street and don't carry anything that you can't afford to lose including "I_D".

Be safe.

Munch.

[KiwiBoy]

So, haven't seen a lot about raids in the forum, do they only take away the girls or do the patrons get taken away as well? Is this something to watch out for?

Nemesis and Equis bars where both raided last night, but it was business as usual tonight.

[WestCoast1]

Sued Ost Asien sorry language confusion.

Is that germanic? Please don't make us google, the board language is english. South East Asia?

[Red Kilt]

English cricket fan = eternal optimist.

I was hoping Phillies might be showing something, but nothing obvious on their web site.

All the Sports Bars in Manila are showing the World Cup (no use though if you're in AC).

Howzat!

H & J.

Amazonia have it running non-stop. I guess there are others too.