Puerto Vallarta

[Old Parr]

Dude, good to hear. Hope to hook up. I will send you a PM.

V

If I am not here I am probably in Cartagena or Santa Marta, Colombia.

[Vitrea]

There you go V. I will more than likely be in Vallarta when you are here, as I am here most weekends, arriving on Thursday or Friday, and leaving on Sunday or Monday.

Dude, good to hear. Hope to hook up. I will send you a PM.

-V.

[Vitrea]

Everything else in Mexico is much less expensive than back home. It baffles me why pooning is often more expensive.

I agree and often wonder about that myself. My brilliant conclusion is that it because we are willing to pay for it. Ha ha.

Most clients that pay these prices (including most of us) are gringo tourists and they are in vacation mode. Same in Cabo and Cancun.

[John Dough]

OK. I am glad this is popping along. Conversationally. Admittedly as massage hound. Love the slow build up and would like to find a FS massage place closer to home. Bucerias. Very hard to find attractive talent.

I don't know about that, but here is something I found posted somewhere:

There is a Video Wood (DVD place) just to the east of HWY#200 in centro Bucerias. The cat house is two blocks south of that. It's right beside the underpass of the bridge beside the chicken restaurant. You just walk to the right of the restaurant and it's right there. That's how you get in from the back. The restaurant is right beside the underpass of the bridge about 2 blocks south of the Bucerias centro intersection on HWY#200. The cat house is to the right of the restaurant. Walking north toward pollo place. Turn right in front of pollo place and immediately left as to pass the front. You go thru another entryway and the place is there in the back. You can come in from the other side (north) as well.

There is supposed to be a strip club in Bucerias, just south of the Decameron on HWY#200. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Osiri...73235756066843

If you can't find what you're looking for, ask a taxi driver. They usually know where men want to go.

Recently tried Knich. Not sure about the spelling. Across from Wings Army on BB. Sweet freckle faced Angie (Ang) was there. A smile that you can't resist. Session was $700 with he and she undressed for $500. So $1200 for the he with titty play. Need to find better than that. I can get a Asian massage back in Canada with everything (FS) for that price.

Kinich Spa https://plus.google.com/100593272492...85/about?hl=en.

Everything else in Mexico is much less expensive than back home. It baffles me why pooning is often more expensive.

Does anyone have thoughts or ideas. I have read about Nirvana. But need to find the place! Can we post better descriptions on locations besides, 'behind the Pemex' - there are a few and driving around and around. Dammit can't find it! LOL.

Nirvana is diagonally across from Pemex, one block south of Buenaventura Grand Hotel. See map at the link:

https://www.google.com/maps/@20.6191...mcOg!2e0?hl=en

Massage Damely used to be popular a few years ago. Aquiles Serdan #254 south side, 2nd floor.

https://www.google.com/maps/@20.6046...roYQ!2e0?hl=en

[Bucerias Boy]

OK. I am glad this is popping along. Conversationally. Admittedly as massage hound. Love the slow build up and would like to find a FS massage place closer to home. Bucerias. Very hard to find attractive talent.

Recently tried Knich. Not sure about the spelling. Across from Wings Army on BB. Sweet freckle faced Angie (Ang) was there. A smile that you can't resist. Session was $700 with he and she undressed for $500. So $1200 for the he with titty play. Need to find better than that. I can get a Asian massage back in Canada with everything (FS) for that price.

Does anyone have thoughts or ideas. I have read about Nirvana. But need to find the place! Can we post better descriptions on locations besides, 'behind the Pemex' - there are a few and driving around and around. Dammit can't find it! LOL.

Bucerias offers he but the talent is frightful and a towel over the eyes is not a bad idea. Anything in Nuevo would make it better for me. The south side of PV is a hike. I generally leave early to get there for 9 am and back into Bucerias for 11 am for work.

I too, need the discreet and sweet as the wives would not be so. Shall we say understanding.

Lets keep the information flowing.

Cheers.

Buceriasboy

[LPlage]

From suggestions here went to Coni Spa on BB in old Town. Worked with "Karla" both times. First time 700 for a bad massage and he with little enthusiastic attitude. No touching allowed. Next time 1,000 for nude massage and titty fucked her for an extra 500. Too expensive. Karla looked much better with cloths on!

Thanks for good report.

The price for he on Basllio Badillo is way way too much. You guys are killing the market. Ha ha. For he, the standard is 700, inclusive of a good massage.

BTW, the shop you went to. Is it on the same side as wings to the west, or across the street from wings to the south?

Jaki is always reliable and a good service provider.

[John Dough]

That's weird. I didn't see Old Parr's reply when I posted mine. I didn't think there was a delay in posting comments by senior members.

Always Looking: Don't let your experience at Ballena Azul scare you off from visiting King George. These places are nothing alike.

[John Dough]

I looked back a few posts and I did not see the price by Old Parr. What is the "good price"? I might be there soon. Ha ha.

Visited King George last night. Fairly nice place. Some OK girls, some not. Girls drink is US $20. Rooms were OK.
30 minutes in room with girl about 2200 Pesos, 60 minutes about 4400 Pesos.

I was quoted on many occasions 1200 for 30 minutes, and that with the jacuzzi room. Why they quoted you these prices I have no idea, as that is literally crazy. Sorry to hear this Henry!

I think King George asked for 2000 pesos for 30 minutes.

Possibly because I am a regular, and because I always have 4 to 6 friends with me, so I spend a lot of money on drinks, but this is what I have been quoted and charged, and in fact, they ask me what I want to pay and I tell them 1,200 as that is what I always pay. It is one of my main hangouts, but I only frequent the place in the afternoons, but I am there for a couple of hours normally.

Maybe you should go with Old Parr the first time. Then you might always get the good price after that. Keep in mind this is a fancy place, definitely not a cantina. The women wear nice dresses. I think it is geared to the high end tourists from the marina resorts. Maybe they have a two price system for tourists and locals.

[Old Parr]

I looked back a few posts and I did not see the price by Old Parr. What is the "good price"? I might be there soon. Ha ha.

Possibly because I am a regular, and because I always have 4 to 6 friends with me, so I spend a lot of money on drinks, but this is what I have been quoted and charged, and in fact, they ask me what I want to pay and I tell them 1,200 as that is what I always pay. It is one of my main hangouts, but I only frequent the place in the afternoons, but I am there for a couple of hours normally.

There you go V. I will more than likely be in Vallarta when you are here, as I am here most weekends, arriving on Thursday or Friday, and leaving on Sunday or Monday.

[Vitrea]

I would be curious to know what price they quote you at King George sports bar. If you could get the same price as Old Parr, I think that would be a good alternative for you. I heard it opens at noon. It was evening when I went, but they had some quality women and the room is included in the price. No need to pay for a motel.

I looked back a few posts and I did not see the price by Old Parr. What is the "good price"? I might be there soon. Ha ha.

[Always Looking]

An agency that is affordable, that has 20 girls, and perhaps 6 of them suit my taste could carry me for a whole year. With normal escort turnover I could be in PV heaven. I order a girl online, she shows up on time, and no more searching. But there is no such thing.

The best girl is Sophi. A real class act. She is the real deal. But that was an off season special when they all need work. You can find her on craigslist, she is or has been associated with PV playmates. Not sure of their current employment arrangement but the price would be better in the summer if you find her directly.

I had a number of misadventures that were harsh lessons. I had to tighten my game.

So I never meet without having real photos of their face. Never. I don't use a telephone with them. Only email. I never use a motel in my colonia. Never see the same girl 5 or 6 times. And I don't go to cantinas or clubs by myself.

I had done all of these. Each caused an implosion of some kind. These can work for other guys. But in my world I had to eliminate my errors.

I don't get into the massage thing. Just my preference. I like the motel experience. Have a chica bring a toy for herself. Have her watch porn. Hang out for one hour. Drift into two hours sometimes. Treat them with respect and repeat with them several times and they break all their normal rules. Some also then let you take candid photos too.

Regarding Damas they probably are real photos. The only one of interest for me was Francia. But I can't get her face photo. Maybe I should try again.

I went to some cantinas by myself. I know I went too early in the day. Was a fish out of water and never found a good girl. Went to Azul on Madero one time. Wrong place, wrong time, wrong words. Happy to not end up a story on CNN. That ended my venturing into cantinas on my own. Never went to King George.

Antorchas would be a good place but I want a sidekick to go with. But everyone I know here in PV also knows mi esposa so I have never approached anyone to go with.

I will post separately my one story of a street walker and another story of when the escort surprised me by bringing a pimp along.

I can't find anything good now and I am disappointed with the ones I know. That is why the resurrection of PV Escorts was disappointing. I do run a more conservative and safe ship than others might. But it has to fit my normal routine so I never have to explain anything at home.

[John Dough]

Finally we are starting to get a lively discussion on this forum. I wish those with the local knowledge would post more often. Some places have forums set up where they mostly do reviews on individual providers. I would like to see that sort of thing happen here. So far we have two favorable comments about Jaki. Who else would you recommend?

I agree that hiring escorts is a risky business. I prefer to meet them in the strip clubs and get a lap dance. That way you get to see if they have saggy tits or stretch marks. Their performance and attitude are also demonstrated. I had a lap dance from Mili when she worked at Osiris in la zona a number of years ago. She wasn't good. When I saw the PV Escorts web site list her age as 22, I immediately doubted that.

PV Escorts did have one good escort in prior years, who also worked at Andromeda (was called Platino back then). Her name was Valery. Unfortunately she isn't there anymore. I was told she moved to Guadalajara. Her pictures on the PV Escorts web site were not photo-shopped. She didn't need it. Their description of her as being happy, responsive, lively and fun with a firm body were totally true. There are some faceless pictures of her here:

http://www.one-escort.com/detail.php?n=28311

There is another girl working at Andromeda with the same good attitude and performance. Her name is Melanie. I don't know if she also works at an escort agency. She isn't as firm as Valery and has some minor stretch marks from pregnancy, but nothing serious.

Always Looking: What do you think of the escort service Damas Vallarta? Their prices are reasonable. I doubt their pictures are photo shopped due to the fact some of them are rather unappealing. Their ads are found here:

http://mx.mundosexanuncio.com/telefono/3221096660

Have you tried some of the other afternoon options like massage places, Las Antorchas, and cantinas like La Reja? As a local resident, I would be curious to know what price they quote you at King George sports bar. If you could get the same price as Old Parr, I think that would be a good alternative for you. I heard it opens at noon. It was evening when I went, but they had some quality women and the room is included in the price. No need to pay for a motel.

[Always Looking]

Vallarta is my full time home for the last 5 years. Because of my family situation I can only enjoy 'escort entertainment' in the afternoons. I line up something 3 or 4 times per month. I use backpage, craigslist, mxmileroticos and others, but they are filled with fake and stolen photos, and take a lot of work to research. This is not ideal. But I still do it. Girls use multiple names and borrowed photos, so I do a search of the photos and telephone numbers and email addresses to narrow the field. I am budget minded because of the number of dates I have per month. 1500 pesos is fine, but will not dish out 3000 pesos on the high end girls. I have no problem tipping.

I would like to hit the bars and clubs at night, but I need to pursue things within my afternoon constraints. If I find something worthwhile, I will repeat with her several times and then move on. I like to trade emails with a girl, and then meet her at the designated motel. Nice, clean and simple. So the ideal situation would be a honest, affordable escort agency with a deep bench of talent. That is my problem.

And this leads me to PV Escorts. I hate to pile on, but PV Escorts is not a solution for me. They have brought back the same used, worn out girls they had before. Mili, Melissa, Alex, Caroline, etc. Don't walk away. Run. Unclean and dishonest and never on time. Forget the age that is listed, they are much older. One has a horrible fake rack job. Do not make a decision based on the photos. They are major league photo shopped. Most have kids and the scars to prove it (Mexican doctors must be hacks).

I have used them all before (except for Mili, she scares me). And I used them as independents when the agency went away. Some of these girls have used other names in different ads. I am rather stupid, as I repeated with some even though the experience was substandard, and only because I had no alternative and I wanted entertainment.

I know nothing of the couple of new girls they brought on, other than I have their photos, and photos of their faces and clearly the photo shop program was on hyper drive. Maybe there is a good experience in there, but I will let one of you take a 'hit for the team' and report back. If they only understood that photo shop is not their friend. It only leads to disappointment when we actually meet them.

It should not be so hard to find a decent group of affordable escorts that would show up on time, and stay out of my wallet when I am in the shower.

[Jason96]

This girl is the worse. I have known her personally for a couple of years. I see she has hooked up with pvescorts who now advertising her on Craigslist in addition to there website. If you want to throw your money away then take her. Her tits are all skin from having 3 babies so that right there is a big turnoff. She also cannot be trusted so always keep an eye on your things if you are foolish enough to go with her.

Another girl whom I have known for years is Mili. I know her from the nightclubs on the malecon, and from the nightclub Candela. I have partied with her on several occasions in the nightclubs, and she loves the drugs. From conversations I have had her with her, I can tell you that she is exactly a duplicate of the girl I previously wrote about. Stay away or you will be very disappointed.

The descriptions of the girls on that website must have been written by a teenager, as they certainly are not the quality of a professional agency.

The girl in the 3 pictures looks very cute. Except she's wearing way too much make-up in the first one.

[Old Parr]

It seems the Red Zone Tour is back in business under new management. This can be a good way for newbies to get an introduction to the attractions. The tour is prepaid so there is no misunderstanding about cost, as some have mentioned about the taxi driver Rogelio. I've been on the tour with the original owner and enjoyed it. I like to read the blog on the web site to stay in touch with what's happening.

http://www.redzonetours.com/

They also have an escort service that is more reasonably priced than PV Playmates. I met some of the escorts that worked there years ago when I went on the tour, since some of them also work in strip clubs. There was a range of quality from average to good. This might be a safer way to book an escort than using backpage and craigslist.

https://www.pvescorts.com/

This girl is the worse. I have known her personally for a couple of years. I see she has hooked up with pvescorts who now advertising her on Craigslist in addition to there website. If you want to throw your money away then take her. Her tits are all skin from having 3 babies so that right there is a big turnoff. She also cannot be trusted so always keep an eye on your things if you are foolish enough to go with her.

Another girl whom I have known for years is Mili. I know her from the nightclubs on the malecon, and from the nightclub Candela. I have partied with her on several occasions in the nightclubs, and she loves the drugs. From conversations I have had her with her, I can tell you that she is exactly a duplicate of the girl I previously wrote about. Stay away or you will be very disappointed.

The descriptions of the girls on that website must have been written by a teenager, as they certainly are not the quality of a professional agency.