FKK Club Freudenbergstr 39

[Curious39]

Warning!

I had some cash stolen from my downstairs locker last week.

Make sure you put all your valuables and cash in the upstairs boxes.

[Member #4359]

FC should be available. They are not allowing the mention of AO anymore, so you won't find much info on it. Before this happened there were a few reports that indicated the girls were keeping to the new no AO rule.

I have been planning to Germany trip this spring but with all of the AO confusion and doubt I'm leaning toward cancelling my plans and looking elsewhere. I was going to make Bochum my central focus, and FKK 39, but now I don't know where to go. Dolce Vita Raubach being closed, it looks like only Laluna is still advertising AO and I wonder how long that will last.

[Neurosynth]

All we know for sure is that signs have appeared in this club forbidding AO.

We don't know if the girls are following this.

....

Hope I don't have to pay tuition for that lecture!

Kidding.

Anyway I've been doing my part. Check out the reports I've posted. But we need more, and I'll be moving back again soon.

[Ableyone]

Does anyone knows what happened with Freiercafe? It is not accessible anymore. Any suggestions for similar resources?

It's still working, see here,

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...=1#post1667951

[Free Dude]

FC should be available. They are not allowing the mention of AO anymore, so you won't find much info on it. Before this happened there were a few reports that indicated the girls were keeping to the new no AO rule.

[Jymondor]

What are the German / Dutch language forums saying about this?

Does anyone knows what happened with Freiercafe? It is not accessible anymore. Any suggestions for similar resources?

[Myrrh]

(also this post *is* specific to F39 because it's a discussion best addressed by former F39 customers who are now going elsewhere.).

All we know for sure is that signs have appeared in this club forbidding AO.

We don't know if the girls are following this.

We don't know if the AO girls and customers are going elsewhere because of this new rule.

For all we know things may be carrying on just as before but not as openly.

After all if a regular AO customer visits and finds that his favourite girl is no longer offering the service then he just won't pay her. We know that these girls are desperate for money. Otherwise why would they risk their health having sex several times a day every day without any protection of any kind in the first place?

By law the girls cannot smoke indoors yet most of them chain smoke openly everywhere in the RTC clubs. They are breaking the law but no one cares. Also what happens in the room stays in the room so anything that happens there is difficult to prove and the girls will instinctively know this ("OK, we can do darling, but just don't tell thekenfrau or the other girls please".)

What are the German / Dutch language forums saying about this?

Has anyone been to this club since the signs appeared?

All it takes would be one visit and the cost of the entry fee. If none of the girls do it then don't go back. On the other hand if the girls are doing it pretty much the same as before then we are all missing out on the biggest FKK AO club that there is just because of scare stories and false assumptions.

[Neurosynth]

(also this post *is* specific to F39 because it's a discussion best addressed by former F39 customers who are now going elsewhere.).

To those who DO want to talk about it.

What do you think? Which of the F39 alternatives is the best these days?

[Neurosynth]

I second EG. If AO will be banned and clubs will be required a permission to operate, it is also to be expected that the permit will likely be denied or withdrawn to clubs were is known or supposed that AO is offered. I would advice not to mention bareback at all, as just switching from "AO" to an equivalent expression will not offer any protection.

This is off topic. It should go in the general discussion area because it's not specific to F39, and one could easily see the same discussion sprouting up in the discussion of one place after another.

Folks who don't want to reply to questions about AO here shouldn't.

(as if the authorities needs a few random guys on ISG to clue them in on the super-secret AO scene. Get serious.).

[Varenne]

Let's say it would be better if in forums the expression "AO" wasn't used anymore, since anyone can read them.

I second EG. If AO will be banned and clubs will be required a permission to operate, it is also to be expected that the permit will likely be denied or withdrawn to clubs were is known or supposed that AO is offered. I would advice not to mention bareback at all, as just switching from "AO" to an equivalent expression will not offer any protection.

[Neurosynth]

I'm a little surprised AO hasn't been de facto restored by the individual girls themselves. If you know anything about that please post or message me.

Meanwhile, I'll be up in the region tomorrow with wheels. Other RTC's are apparently still in the game. But which one should I go to?

[Myrrh]

Out of this, I had already been thinking more than once to lessen or quit posting in these AO threads, for a few reasons, and anyway it had to happen soon or later, also with the new law coming, so I take this occasion to say that my contributions to the forum, if any, will not be anymore in these threads. Maybe I will join the platoon of those who write the cosmic nothing or just criticize the few ones who dare to post something useful or from the battling field, or maybe I will find a better pasttime... in any case, that's all from me about (ex) AO clubs.

EastGoing,

You have the freedom of being able to share your thoughts on here whenever you want. Why not make the most of this special privilege?

[Dufey]

As for talking about it here. Don't get an inflated sense of the impact of this board. First, it represents a tiny fraction of the guys who go to these places.

According to at least one report, each day, one million men in Germany go to visit a prostitute. I expect not all of them are tourists and some could be locals.

[Neurosynth]

Hyperbole. There was AO available in non-AO clubs before and there will be again. So imagine what that will mean for the RTCs. If every girl refused AO then perhaps there would be stability in that regard. But it won't remain stable because there will always be the girl willing to give a little more to make a little more. And then if a few start, many more will follow. And then if a club needs a competitive edge over other clubs they will somehow "let it be known" that if you want AO, you should come to their club.

As for talking about it here. Don't get an inflated sense of the impact of this board. First, it represents a tiny fraction of the guys who go to these places. Second, the German authorities will probably go to the German boards first, and *they* aren't going to stop reporting on AO. It's really a one way street. Guys can get terrific information by reading this board. But having said that, what happens on this board has almost no net effect on the business.

Please keep those F39 reports coming in and please keep them honest. That's what I plan to do. And I'd like to hear about f39 for sure in the short term as I will be visiting, and reporting, again soon. I want to know what the *real* story is there.

[EastGoing]

Vito, your new Raissa is not around, but you might be happy to know that Rosa is back where she was, but with even less enthusiasm than before! Hurry up though, only for 4-5 weeks.

Myrrh, don't worry for me and spare your resurrected venom glands for better targets or for much needed field reports. If moderators cancelled useless empty posts (and memberships), this forum would lose at least 90% of the content and members. However, FYI, at the moment I "love" a bulgarian girl, anyway she will leave soon, as will other girls. Wouldn't you like to have a girlfriend earning a few hundreds of euros a day?
Jokes apart, it's nearly 2 years I go in these clubs very frequently, so now I have a better knowledge of "mechanisms" , games, etc. (are you envious? :-D), which may impress the newbie... it's a pity that...

I was there today too, again fucking 1 x40, 2x70, 3x90. 36 pics plus at least 5 girls without (pic, obviously, whatelse?), some 13 from Verena, the whole crew apart Kira and Madalina. I heard the reason why Verena was closed down, I thought maybe it was a joke. I also heard it should reopen on Friday, according to other "light" versions, but then those signs Varenne mentioned were put on. Let's say it would be better if in forums the expression "AO" wasn't used anymore, since anyone can read them. So, of course the girls stuck on to the new rule, with me and surely with anyone else.

I think the whole AO section here (and in other forums) should be suppressed. I hope someone can manage to contact Admin, I had even written to him for putting F39 in the NRW AO thread, some time ago, but didn't even get answered.

Out of this, I had already been thinking more than once to lessen or quit posting in these AO threads, for a few reasons, and anyway it had to happen soon or later, also with the new law coming, so I take this occasion to say that my contributions to the forum, if any, will not be anymore in these threads. Maybe I will join the platoon of those who write the cosmic nothing or just criticize the few ones who dare to post something useful or from the battling field, or maybe I will find a better pasttime... in any case, that's all from me about (ex) AO clubs.