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04-15-15 03:53 #9639
Posts: 246Varied
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Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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04-15-15 03:31 #9638
Posts: 616Originally Posted by HardHatMate [View Original Post]
"Under the explanation section, the bill argues that 58 percent of criminal activities are due to the influence of alcohol, although it cited no scientific studies to back up this claim.
"Alcohol is also cited in the bill for causing memory loss, dementia, Alzheimer's, schizophrenia and other types of brain ailments. ".
Actually, scientific evidence is rapidly accumulating that moderate drinking, particularly of red wine, may significantly lower the risk of dementia and Alzheimer's as well as cardiovascular and other diseases. Yeah, if you become an alcoholic your health is put at risk, but probably not more so than from smoking the still-legal-in-Indonesia cigarettes (Indonesia having the highest rate of cigarette smoking among males in the world).
As to the claim that 58 percent of criminal activities are due to the influence of alcohol, I guess that means all those cops and government officials who solicit bribes (which to my mind probably represents a majority of all criminal acts in Indonesia) are drunkards. Isn't it nice to know that once this bill is passed, Indonesia's culture of criminal corruption will come to an end.
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04-15-15 03:11 #9637
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by HardHatMate [View Original Post]
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04-15-15 03:05 #9636
Posts: 222Kalijodo apparent closure
Ahok announced in November last year Kalijodo would be closing soon. Similar to Dolly in SBY.
I was in Kalijodo Saturday afternoon, this wasnt a mongering visit for. Just having a stroll and a bo-peep, as I was nearby at Taman Angrekk.
Seems to me the place is still very much alive and kicking with the usual type of dodgy crowd, usual activities. (quieter of course as it was late arvo).
So I am not sure when it will close, but it hasnt yet!
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04-15-15 02:56 #9635
Posts: 222Hahhaa, were obviously reading and posting at the same time.
Originally Posted by Hilo77 [View Original Post]
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04-15-15 02:55 #9634
Posts: 222Ban on alcohol sales
Not sure if anyone has been tracking this; long story short 2 Islamic political parties have tabled in parliament to ban alcohol sales, with same penalties for consumption and possession as drugs. Obviously extremely radical, especially considering Malaysia, with its unique sharia law and Islamic constitution doesn't ban alcohol sales.
Not trying to give my own opinion here- just highlighting to fellow mongers, as this will change the scene somewhat if it ever passes (or in what form it passes).
FYI. If colleagues here didn't know, alcohol sales was banned in ALL mini-marts (including Bali) this month.
And condom sales were banned in Surabaya to unmarried people. Or so I've heard.
"A priority bill initiated by the House of Representatives has proposed banning all consumption of alcoholic beverages, with imprisonment of between three months and two years for anyone caught consuming alcohol.
The bill on the prohibition of alcoholic beverages, a copy of which has been obtained by The Jakarta Post, will put in place a ban on the sale, production, distribution and consumption of all beverages containing more than 1 percent alcohol.
A meeting of lawmakers in the House Legislation Body (Baleg) on Monday approved the progress of the bill's deliberation to the next stage where lawmakers are set to ensure clauses in the bill do not contravene existing laws. ".
- See more at: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...-drinkers.html#sthash. DSBQVFTq. Dpuf.
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04-15-15 02:37 #9633
Posts: 334And so it begins
The slope gets ever steeper and more slippery.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...-drinkers.html
Guess what the next step will be.
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04-14-15 20:12 #9632
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by UsPete [View Original Post]
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04-14-15 12:23 #9631
Posts: 118Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
I also suffer the issue in these joint of girls who I pulled tricks with some twenty years ago coming up to wind me up, asking for drinks and warn the SYT fluttering about to avoid me like the plague. The phrase is "bule basi" which is akin to "contaminated by local indo. Men's influence / behavior".
I've gone in and even tried my best to only speak English, ask dumb questions, get quotes in dollars etc. One time managed to get a really attractive 20 year old to agree to leave with me, got up the stairs and one of the security guards casually said a pleasent goodbye in Batak and I stupidly replied in Batak without thinking.
Well, I now know how Richard Attenborough's character felt like in the Great Escape when he was caught by the German's at the train station. The girl I was with litterly froze and refused to go with me, despite the $100 leaving sweetener agreed. She said fairly politely that going with me would be like going with one of her family.
It's really become an issue for me, so nowdays when visiting Jakarta I bring along tshirts and miniature perfumes from branded stores in Europe for presents for the girls. Withe the result that my pulls on they way home and texting their friends, that they have left safely can also say the old timers aren't that bad.
North Jakarta isn't an issue so places like Kings Cross and Empornium are now my favourites but they don't always have the same chase and trap feeling you can sometimes get from Bats / CJ's or even out the blue in a mall or on the trains.
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04-14-15 08:45 #9630
Posts: 309Originally Posted by Hilo77 [View Original Post]
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04-14-15 01:51 #9629
Posts: 113Thanks.
Thanks Smoothy for the intel. This will definitely help in negotiations.
Originally Posted by Smoothy [View Original Post]
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04-13-15 08:26 #9628
Posts: 65Police Shakedowns
Regarding some of the posts sometime back, I too had the same experience once.
I met a girl in BATS who wanted to party more. Headed out, gave her 350 K for an E tablet which she bought while I waited in the Silver Bird. Went to Collosseum which is a excellent club BTW. She had the tablet in small doses and we got out of the club at around 3 AM.
Was stopped by a couple of policemen between Collosseum and Malioboro (not too sure about the place). The policeman asked for my passport which I never carry. They asked me to come out with the girl as translator. Fortunately, she was quite sober.
They asked me to pay. I said that I would rather wait for the Shangri-La to get the passport out of my safe and get it to them. They talked in Bahasa and let me go. I was very polite and very firm. Maybe I was just plain lucky. I deal with a couple of General's sons for biz and knew that I could count on their connections if things got bad.
I really don't mind paying 100 or 200 K but we can never be sure about the cops' attitude once they have smelt blood.
On the other hand, this was the first time I ventured past Malioboro on that road.
Cheers,
McM.
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04-13-15 04:46 #9627
Posts: 3497Originally Posted by Sympalogy [View Original Post]
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04-12-15 13:14 #9626
Posts: 246Natty Bumpo
I know, for a fact, that our esteemed member Natty Bumpo is kicking ass and taking names in Jakarta right now.
I'm looking forward to his excellent reports, as usual!
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04-12-15 04:03 #9625
Posts: 334Well given that the scene in Jakarta is so terminally dull these days and getting duller by the hour I suppose there would be no harm in a linguistic-historical discussion to while away a boring Sunday afternoon.
The Latin / Portuguese words in common use in Indonesian are often the words that refer to European things that would have been first introduced by the Portuguese, thus the words for table, butter, shoe etc are meja, mentega and zapatu. So many of the Dutch words originate with things that the Dutch menheers and their wives would have needed to explain to their staff to get household chores done, curtain, wash basin, and my favourite bed pan being gordyn, wastafel and pispot. Trade would have been conducted in a variety of linguas franca; Arabic, Malay, Javanese, Sundanese, the variety of Chinese dialects, Portuguese, Dutch and English and anything that got a polyglot range of Jolly Jack Tars through the day (and night) to become our old friend Bahasa Indonesia.
However, the colourful collection of Portuguese and / or Christian-descent wedding celebrants cited below, whilst no doubt leading to an entertaining and eye-easing evening could hardly be described as typical of the Indonesian people as a whole and certainly not of the type of girl a bule bloke could expect to pick up at Milles or Golden Crown, so in answer to the original question I have no idea where these Spanish speakers the OP asked about come from as I have certainly never met any of them.