Hong Kong Club Reports

[TomJackin]

Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.

My understanding is that the Hotel Ticuan restaurant and bar are in full operation. Plenty of flat screens and I'm sure the hotel could use the business.

[Captain Solo]

As far as I know, the pussy block containing HK, Las Chevelas, Adelita. Have had very few crimes over the year due to large presence of policias, security cops, meseros, foot traffic, good lighting and security cameras. It appears to me as one of the safest area in Tijuana day or night.

In contrary, crimes seem to occur right at the periphery of this block, where mongers with money hang out and there are little presence of policias and security cameras. On Ninos between Coahuila and Calle 1, among the busy tacos stands at dinner time, I have seen 2 well-dressed guys knocked on their heads and robbed. They were lying on the ground, vomiting blood. The tacos guys called the cops and 4 showed up to do crime reports.

These robberies happened very quickly; workers and diners at the scene seemed unable to prevent or help.

I guess I have no need to go to Tijuana for sight seeing or to socialize with big, fat, lumpy chicas outside of the pussy block.

The Zona is arguably the worst area of Tijuana. If you can walk around the Zona after dark, you could do it in the rest of Tijuana including Revolution. Notice the kids and old folks wandering around after dark.

[Jackie888]

Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.

The Zona is arguably the worst area of Tijuana. If you can walk around the Zona after dark, you could do it in the rest of Tijuana including Revolution. Notice the kids and old folks wandering around after dark.

[Member #4450]

Are you kidding me. Leave the safe confines of the ZONA to go. GOD FORBID on the mean streets of Tijuana. I would just SHIT MY PANTS!

Come to South LA hood and stay here for a few months you will turn into a man and Tijuana would look like Disneyland.

[GolfSexRroll]

The fight will be broadcast for free in Mexico, so loads of places will show it.

Won't walk around Tijuana on a Saturday night? OMG.

There will be many places showing it. If one can muster the testicular fortitude to make it up to Revu, I'm sure you'll find many places. I suspect the bar in the Hotel Nelson will show it. You can wedge yourself into either of the Calientes on Revu (near Caesar, or near Tijuana Tilly's) where it will be showing in the sports book. There's a hole in the wall, east side of Revu, south of Copeo, adjacent to the parking garage driveway that has a big screen and inexpensive beer. Ticuan's bar will show it, I have no doubt. For the even braver souls, take a taxi to Plaza Rio. La Revancha, across the street, same complex as Shots Factory, has a big screen. Someplace in Plaza Zapato will have it, too.

Honestly, guys. Get out of the zona occasionally.

Are you kidding me. Leave the safe confines of the ZONA to go. GOD FORBID on the mean streets of Tijuana. I would just SHIT MY PANTS!

[Phordphan]

Hey boxing fans and HK locals? I have a feeling they are going to show the epic fight next Saturday. I wonder if there would even be standing room if you did not get in a stake out space before 6 pm or so. Any thoughts of better places than HK to catch the fight in the zona? Anyone up for a ISG fight night / chore fest? Thanks.

I was thinking the same thing. They have to show that fight on the big screen there. Seems like they wouldn't have a choice about it. Not sure if anyone will be able to even stand in the front section of the bar. The good news for the bar is it will be packed even if the girls aren't all that busy.

Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.

The fight will be broadcast for free in Mexico, so loads of places will show it.

Won't walk around Tijuana on a Saturday night? OMG.

There will be many places showing it. If one can muster the testicular fortitude to make it up to Revu, I'm sure you'll find many places. I suspect the bar in the Hotel Nelson will show it. You can wedge yourself into either of the Calientes on Revu (near Caesar, or near Tijuana Tilly's) where it will be showing in the sports book. There's a hole in the wall, east side of Revu, south of Copeo, adjacent to the parking garage driveway that has a big screen and inexpensive beer. Ticuan's bar will show it, I have no doubt. For the even braver souls, take a taxi to Plaza Rio. La Revancha, across the street, same complex as Shots Factory, has a big screen. Someplace in Plaza Zapato will have it, too.

Honestly, guys. Get out of the zona occasionally.

[SportMongr]

I was thinking the same thing. They have to show that fight on the big screen there. Seems like they wouldn't have a choice about it. Not sure if anyone will be able to even stand in the front section of the bar. The good news for the bar is it will be packed even if the girls aren't all that busy.

Thanks. Yes good for the bar no doubt. Uncomfortable for everyone at HK. I was hoping the HK crowd here might have a safe idea nearby / alley bar. I'm sure bars on revo will have. But I'm not walking around Tijuana after dark. Anyway. Maybe I"ll try to work the pole for a better view away from all the lechuga heads.

[TomJackin]

You're making way too big a deal out of the export control law stuff. Can we please give this export control stuff a rest?

So, you had to add to the nonsense?

[Captain Solo]

HorseTrader did a good job warning the bros crossing borders with technical info in their lap tops or luggage, even to friendly countries like Canada and Mexico.

I know a few people who violated Export Controls laws and / or ITAR, ended up with 10 to 12 years in federal prison. The list of controlled products is long and defined in complex technical terms. It takes top technical and legal experts to interpret. Some of the products, old and obsolete for 50 years, are still subjected to export control and requiring licenses even to export to friendly countries.

To be able to fully enjoy the fine HK chicas without worries, the bros should avoid any probability of being targeted and perhaps wrongly prosecuted for violations. It may be a good idea to leave the laptops in the US or just ship them home before crossing borders. If the Fed targets someone, they will find something to prosecute.

It's more than just the forbidden countries like North Korea, it's any non-US country including our good friends Canada, Mexico, and the UK. Just bringing the item into a foreign country is considered an export; you don't have to leave it in that country to be an export.

I work as a consultant to a number of companies. The biggest concerns are with companies that have some sort of technical products such as oil, engineering, and physics. No problem when I worked with a company in the fashion industry. I suspect that anything related to DoD is the tightest of all (even if it isn't classified information). If your laptop contains information such as technical reports or drawings then you need to consider the export control laws. There is a very large category of information that is "NLR" - No License Required.

Sorry, too much written. But every American international traveler needs to be aware of this stuff.

[UltraHappy]

You're making way too big a deal out of the export control law stuff. Can we please give this export control stuff a rest?

1) The likelihood that anyone has any nonbusiness information or devices on them that is subject to export control is extremely small. So, for those traveling without their business laptop, this export control law stuff can pretty much be safely ignored.

2) If you are traveling with your company laptop and your company has entrusted you with export-controlled information, then they very likely have forced you to undergo their annual control training to sensitize you to what you can and can't take across the border without an export control license. So, if you have export controlled information, then you should know already know it. And if the company has entrusted you with export-controlled information and has NOT done their job to sensitize you to your duties to comply with export control laws, then I still wouldn't worry about this, because realistically, the agencies that enforce this stuff are going to go after your company, not you personally. It simply doesn't make sense for the agencies to prosecute dumb shit individuals for minor export violations (for lots of reasons that I won't go into here because nobody here gives a shit).

3) For those of you reading this forum and have no idea what the fuck this export law shit is all about, you can pretty much ignore all this export shit and go back to dreaming about your favorite ladies and the nice memories you will make with them soon.

So please give it a rest with this export control stuff. No one really cares (except for those people who should care but they already know what they have to do because they are forced to go to company training on this stuff).

If you are a company exporting technical information or goods outside of the USA, then you should not be getting your export control regulation advice from Hong Kong Club thread on ISG. Go seek professional legal advice. The Hong Kong club thread is for information about the Hong Kong club and its girls -- not export control regulation compliance.

[HorseTrader]

Unless you are selling or giving something to foreigners in forbidden countries, why would you need export licenses?

What kinds of items you need to have export license?

How long did it take to to obtain the license?

It's more than just the forbidden countries like North Korea, it's any non-US country including our good friends Canada, Mexico, and the UK. Just bringing the item into a foreign country is considered an export; you don't have to leave it in that country to be an export.

I work as a consultant to a number of companies. The biggest concerns are with companies that have some sort of technical products such as oil, engineering, and physics. No problem when I worked with a company in the fashion industry. I suspect that anything related to DoD is the tightest of all (even if it isn't classified information). If your laptop contains information such as technical reports or drawings then you need to consider the export control laws. There is a very large category of information that is "NLR" - No License Required.

I don't personally get my licenses, my customers (American companies) have their teams of lawyers to do that. Think months to get the licenses.

As others have pointed out, the chances of getting caught are very small. But getting caught means you will lose your job and maybe worse. This is why I simply don't bring my business laptop into Mexico, even though it is a royal pain in the ass to come back to USA ever couple days.

Sorry, too much written. But every American international traveler needs to be aware of this stuff.

[WanderingMan]

Hey boxing fans and HK locals? I have a feeling they are going to show the epic fight next Saturday. I wonder if there would even be standing room if you did not get in a stake out space before 6 pm or so. Any thoughts of better places than HK to catch the fight in the zona? Anyone up for a ISG fight night / chore fest? Thanks.

I was thinking the same thing. They have to show that fight on the big screen there. Seems like they wouldn't have a choice about it. Not sure if anyone will be able to even stand in the front section of the bar. The good news for the bar is it will be packed even if the girls aren't all that busy.

[ClamSlammer]

Actually, there is federal court precedent on both sides of this issue, with some courts holding that being forced to supply a decryption password is tantamount to self-incrimination in violation of your 5th amendment to remain silent.

In any case, whether or not they can legally force you to decrypt, I would encourage you to read what I wrote about being able to supply a "dummy" password that does decrypt your non-sensitive shit (but doesn't decrypt your sensitive shit).

Here is some documentation describing this hidden container concept: https://veracrypt.codeplex.com/wikip...idden%20Volume.

Essentially, it protects you from the exact scenario you are describing ClamSlammer. If you are "forced" to provide your decryption password, you can still do that without compromising any of your sensitive data. Seriously, click on that link and read about it.

Here's another explanation of the concept (this one even uses cartoons!) http://www.howtogeek.com/109210/the-...hidden-volume/.

Over the past few years I've crossed countless times with multiple laptops and phones. Only once was I forced to provide a password to unlock my phone and the officer looked through it briefly.

[Captain Solo]

Unless you are selling or giving something to foreigners in forbidden countries, why would you need export licenses?

What kinds of items you need to have export license?

How long did it take to to obtain the license?

When I travel on true business internationally, I have proper export licenses, but I've never been asked to produce it. When in Tijuana I don't carry a laptop. So I really can't answer your question.

[SportMongr]

Hey boxing fans and HK locals? I have a feeling they are going to show the epic fight next Saturday. I wonder if there would even be standing room if you did not get in a stake out space before 6 pm or so. Any thoughts of better places than HK to catch the fight in the zona? Anyone up for a ISG fight night / chore fest? Thanks.