London

[Jsxyz]

I must admit I rarely check this forum, only when I'm doing a bit of advance groundwork for a trip over, to see if there are any new options. But generally I'm well-versed enough in the London scene that I don't ever find myself checking it while I'm in town. The recent discussions about London good or bad are amusing to me. It all boils down to your expectations, preferences, and willingness to adapt to your surroundings. For me, London is hands-down one of my favorite destinations anywhere in the world, despite not having any pick-up bars (which are my favorite "home field" from which to punt). It seems the recent displeasure expressed revolves around the fact that there are no massage parlours like some other places in the UK, but to those guys I suggest you get out of your comfort zone gents. There is a phenomenal escort scene, where you can get any flavor of lady you want, incall or outcall, 24 hours per day! Fat, thin, tall, short, black, white, Asian, South American, E. European, 100% British, ladyboy, two girls, ladyboy + girl, anal, PSE, GFE, bareback / creampie, BDSM, hardsports, [CodeWord117], dinner dates, quickies, MILFs, sex parties, face-fucking, facials, swallows, spitting, gagging, . Hell. I'm running out of ideas, but if you can think of it, you can find at least several girls in London who are down for it and probably available on short notice.

Is it cheap? No, it's not. But to say it's not a great mongering destination is really being quite narrow-minded. As the Stones sang: "You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you might find, you get what you NEED."

And boy oh boy did I get what I needed! I had 11 punts, 10 different girls (one repeat with an old favorite I've known for years), ranging from Asian outcall to Russian MILF (AW), to several lovely English girls (AW and Bijoux Escorts), and a beautiful French Carribean ebony girl for good measure. My only REAL regret was not squeezing in a few more. There were a couple minor regrets due to poor research / taking a chance on my part with girls I shouldn't have, but it's easy to send them home with regrets and 20 quid for cab fare. Actually I only had to do that twice, once because she was a fat troll completely out of keeping with her AW photos, and another time just for bad attitude with a girl who asked for payment immediately upon entering my room (that wasn't the beginning or end of her attitude, and I knew I made the right decision in calling it off when she had the audacity to ask me for 40 cab fare instead of the 20 I handed her).

Anyway, as you can tell, I love the London scene, even though it's not my favorite kind of pick-up punting. But I'm able to adapt to the scene and always have a wonderful visit. Hope to be back very soon, in fact as I still have a list of ladies I didn't get to see!

Happy hunting and punting, gents.

[Jsxyz]

Very good point about Cloud 9 escorts. Now I tell you 4 Why? If you check the nationalities of the girls you will see they have a total of 12 Japanese / Korean girls on there, In fact the majority of their girls. A really awsome choice.

As it happens my favorite oriental girls are Japanese / Korean, But from experience in London & reading UK sites its like looking for Rocking Horse Shit trying to nail a genuine Japanese girl in London. Korean girls are a Dime a Dozen in Houston where I monger with them.

But you could be lucky and find out its not a lot of Hot Air.

Here is your chance to take one for the London team as you are in London nearly every week as you said.

Good Luck and don't forget to post on your Japanese girl experience.

I, for one, am highly suspicious based on the photos, but who knows. Maybe someone will TOFTT and report back.

[PayForIt]

Hi PFI,

LOL. You managed to confuse me as It took me a while to figure out why reading my posts have that effect on You " Oh I read them and weeped. " Weeped? Sorry 4 that whatever you meant.

We are here because International Sex Guide is The Bible 4 International Mongering and as it happens I enjoy posting & reading reports on different destinations on my radar. But its a 2 way traffic and London thread is no exception, But nothing beats Foot Mongering + Research, But what I won't do is spoon feed info to anyone. Anyway you say, you are in London every week, so it should be a piece of cake for you and you can eat it as well, LOL.

I am not looking for any trade off of my pointers, links, tips to you on Mongering in London (For what it's worth) , as I think I know what I want to know about mongering in Germany & Spain your mongering destinations, been there, done that Tourism with Mongering there. Mongering in Manchester does not appeal to me at all.

Stay calm & happy mongering.

Hey Jojo. Weeped wasn't intended as a criticism so sorry if you took it that way. My disappointment was only that I had hoped an experienced London poster could post something which said to me - "you have missed something here. Here are some great venues with good selections in central london. " I didn't get that from your posts. I got the impression that there are a couple of venues near Marble Arch but you couldn't give details for fear of exposing them to police raid. Which was something I also found disappointing (weeped! As for taking tubes out to Shoreditch etc not sure that's really what I want to do. I mentioned Cloud 9 because at least it seems to give options of in and outcall but I agree it is mainly Asian. Not particularly my first choice though I've enjoyed the company of some great Asian ladies. I didn't ask anyone (you included) to "spoon feed" me. The forum is about information sharing and I have posted some very long and detailed posts on venues in Germany and Spain to give others the benefit of my personal experiences. Appreciating, as I do, the help I've had from others who have done the same. So I'm not a taker and not a giver! Strictly in the ISG sense of course! Perhaps you might be willing to PM me the details of the establishments you say you do use. To help. Which I would greatly appreciate but fear not if you would prefer not to. I remain in the dark! I'm in London every week and remain very disenchanted on the options in London. Which I've set out previously. I don't think it is asking too much that in a great city like London there are a few places in the centre where you can walk in, get a nice beer, sit with a few girls and make a selection. I can only assume that the police raid threat you have posted upon, which is clearly real and had happened, has caused the explosion of agencies and girls using AWs.

The latest post from Abox also seems to confirm my previously expressed concern / disappointment. That in Central London girls tend to sign up to agencies rather than take their chances in brothels / MPs. I think we've done this to death now! As you say. Happy mongering. Wherever that may be. And trust me. You might just like it in Manchester! Give it a shot. There are a lot of choices!

[Abox79]

This is for you guys that are thinking of trying to find decent girls / sex in massage parlours in London. You have less than a 5% chance of it happening. All the average quality girls, especially the EE girls will be with agencies. The top EE and British girls will be with the upmarket agencies. Some success can be had via adultwork but it's hit and miss. If you want high girls that are almost certainly going to give you a great time you are going to have to pay premium rates. Feel free to ask if you have any questions or PM me. I can recommend if required and it's allowed on the Forum, if not PM me and ask.

[Jojosun]

[quote=PayForIt;1717595 There are no GREAT mongering opportunities in London. I have challenged others in this forum to come forward. Nobody has done so.

Cloud 9 looks the only viable option (which you have never mentioned)...[/quote]Very good point about Cloud 9 escorts. Now I tell you 4 Why? If you check the nationalities of the girls you will see they have a total of 12 Japanese / Korean girls on there, In fact the majority of their girls. A really awsome choice.

As it happens my favorite oriental girls are Japanese / Korean, But from experience in London & reading UK sites its like looking for Rocking Horse Shit trying to nail a genuine Japanese girl in London. Korean girls are a Dime a Dozen in Houston where I monger with them.

But you could be lucky and find out its not a lot of Hot Air.

Here is your chance to take one for the London team as you are in London nearly every week as you said.

Good Luck and don't forget to post on your Japanese girl experience.

[Jojosun]

let's get some really positive suggestions on locations. Or otherwise accept they don't exist. Which is it? I eagerly await your list but suspect the silence will now be deafening.

Hi PFI,

LOL. You managed to confuse me as It took me a while to figure out why reading my posts have that effect on You " Oh I read them and weeped. " Weeped? Sorry 4 that whatever you meant.

We are here because International Sex Guide is The Bible 4 International Mongering and as it happens I enjoy posting & reading reports on different destinations on my radar. But its a 2 way traffic and London thread is no exception, But nothing beats Foot Mongering + Research, But what I won't do is spoon feed info to anyone. Anyway you say, you are in London every week, so it should be a piece of cake for you and you can eat it as well, LOL.

I am not looking for any trade off of my pointers, links, tips to you on Mongering in London (For what it's worth) , as I think I know what I want to know about mongering in Germany & Spain your mongering destinations, been there, done that Tourism with Mongering there. Mongering in Manchester does not appeal to me at all.

Stay calm & happy mongering.

[Jojosun]

Hi PFI,

You got from me the list for the massage parlors in London, But you told us few weeks ago, not in the center. So you didn't try them.

If you are after incall parlors similar to http://www.sandyssuperstars.com/ in Manchester, then you need to read my previous posts on the 2 that I use which are in central London & another a short tube ride to west London.

Open from 11 am to 8 pm. . Their sites are in my posts. This week they have a total of 6 /7 girls working each day.

Their names & photos are clearly shown.

[PayForIt]

I am enjoying reading my posts as well LOL. Read my post again, the last line below, as you seem to have a selective memory.

As I said earlier, London is a great destination to visit &live in with great Mongering opportunities If you do the right research, also confirmed to you by (Dreams) a very experienced and well traveled monger with many informative and objective posts especially on London. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have found out about the free entry Strip clubs in Shoreditch.

There are no GREAT mongering opportunities in London. I've proven it. I've challenged you to come up with comparable venues to those on offer in Manchester. I think I listed 5 or 6. You have quoted one which is closed and another in Shoreditch. Miles from central london. You are proving my point post by post. Great city, shit for mongering. Show me ONE good venue which offers a website with daily girls similar to sandyssuperstars (all top rated on Punterlink). You can't. It doesn't exist. London is either escorts (inconsistent and photoshopped), chinese massage parlours (old ladies serving up a hurried HJ) cheap and dirty walkups in soho or venues miles out of town. Cloud 9 looks the only viable option (which you have never mentioned) and that is not FS.

As I said before. If you were paid to promote London's tourism I'd hire you. This is a website designed and aimed at helping people monger. Look at my posts in Spain and Germany. I post where I've been, what is good and bad, what girls are worth it, etc. I cannot post such details in London because it is the mongering dry hole of the planet. I have challenged others in this forum to come forward. Nobody has done so. Unless you are willing to post a list of venues where I can select from several beauties. Of the kind I have demonstrated are available DAILY in Manchester. Just accept that London stinks on the mongering front and stop trying to be so defensive about a great city which once led the way with ladies of the night but which has fallen far behind Spain, Germany and the rest of the UK. Less arguments and let's get some really positive suggestions on locations. Or otherwise accept they don't exist. Which is it? I eagerly await your list but suspect the silence will now be deafening.

[Jojosun]

LOL! Hey Jojo. If I ever need a facts man I'm coming to you. I love your research and I don't question a word of it. But this isn't the International Tourist Guide. Its the International SEX guide. There isn't a single comment on your excellent response about mongering in London. I'm afraid that's because of all I previously said. Come to London for tourism not sex. It's just not as available in the style of EVERY other UK city. None of which are the Capital.

I am enjoying reading my posts as well LOL. Read my post again, the last line below, as you seem to have a selective memory.

"This website determines the world city most deserving of the title "capital of the world" by comparing a number of factors including finance, tourism, traffic, IGOs, entertainment, fashion, and more. To be in the running, a city must be recognized as an Alpha++ city" .

They included Entertainment as a factor. No doubt one can include Adult Entertainment in it as well." A well known Tourist guide inyourpocket.com lists Adult Entertainment in its Touristy guide to a city such as Minsk http://www.inyourpocket.com/belarus/...-entertainment.

Yoo think tourists who come to London don't want to get laid after doing the touristy things? I do touristy things in my mongering destinations (Kiev, Poland Belarus) & on stopovers on the way to the Far East.

As I said earlier, London is a great destination to visit &live in with great Mongering opportunities If you do the right research, also confirmed to you by (Dreams) a very experienced and well traveled monger with many informative and objective posts especially on London. If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have found out about the free entry Strip clubs in Shoreditch.

[PayForIt]

I was only quoting what others in the know have said. "The current capital of the world in 2011 is: London".

This site is maintained by the World Data Research Group (WDRG) about " London Capital City of The World ".

http://whatisthecapitaloftheworld.com/ . BTW I love reading evidenced reports with facts and figures.

The "capital of the world in 2011 is: London".

"Previous years:

2010: London.

2009: London.

2008: New York City.

2007: London.

2006: New York City "This website determines the world city most deserving of the title "capital of the world" by comparing a number of factors including finance, tourism, traffic, IGOs, entertainment, fashion, and more. To be in the running, a city must be recognized as an Alpha++ city" They included Entertainment as a factor. No doubt one can include Adult Entertainment in it as well.

More on London here from guys in the know about London being Capital City of the World http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotk...influential-ci.

"The World's Most Influential Cities " No city better exemplifies this than London, which after more than a century of imperial decline still ranks No. 1 in our survey. The United Kingdom may now be a second-rate power, but the City's unparalleled legacy as a global financial capital still underpins its pre-eminence.

Ranked first in the world on the Z / Yen Group's 2013 ".

And "The Capital City of the World in 2014 " is. Still London.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/sorry-...l-city-2014-10

"Sorry, New York, But London Is actually The World's Real Capital City" .

As for London " Hopless for mongering " in your Fixed Posts. , I leave it to more experienced London Mongers than I to comment on it.

And here I rest my case and leave you with a song dedicated to all London lovers. How much I am going to miss London in the next few months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PEOtZPHDjU

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner.

LOL! Hey Jojo. If I ever need a facts man I'm coming to you. I love your research and I don't question a word of it. But this isn't the International Tourist Guide. Its the International SEX guide. There isn't a single comment on your excellent response about mongering in London. I'm afraid that's because of all I previously said. Come to London for tourism not sex. It's just not as available in the style of EVERY other UK city. None of which are the Capital. And look what happened to the Capital in the Hunger Games!

Over and out. Enjoyed the banter and it would be great to see some of those experienced London mongers come on and tell me I've got this completely wrong, that London isn't just for seeing sights and that there are lots of establishments to point me to without fear. Like the ones I've named in Manchester. But I rather fear that for some reason in London they just don't exist. London. Capital of Tourism, World Capital and bottom of the league for mongering here on the ISG in the UK.

[Jojosun]

Hi Jojo .

Is it REALLY too much to expect the Capital City of (you say The World) to have ONE of these facilities? I think not.

hopeless for mongering!

I was only quoting what others in the know have said. "The current capital of the world in 2011 is: London".

This site is maintained by the World Data Research Group (WDRG) about " London Capital City of The World ".

http://whatisthecapitaloftheworld.com/ . BTW I love reading evidenced reports with facts and figures.

The "capital of the world in 2011 is: London".

"Previous years:

2010: London.

2009: London.

2008: New York City.

2007: London.

2006: New York City "This website determines the world city most deserving of the title "capital of the world" by comparing a number of factors including finance, tourism, traffic, IGOs, entertainment, fashion, and more. To be in the running, a city must be recognized as an Alpha++ city" They included Entertainment as a factor. No doubt one can include Adult Entertainment in it as well.

More on London here from guys in the know about London being Capital City of the World http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotk...influential-ci.

"The World's Most Influential Cities " No city better exemplifies this than London, which after more than a century of imperial decline still ranks No. 1 in our survey. The United Kingdom may now be a second-rate power, but the City's unparalleled legacy as a global financial capital still underpins its pre-eminence.

Ranked first in the world on the Z / Yen Group's 2013 ".

And "The Capital City of the World in 2014 " is. Still London.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/sorry-...l-city-2014-10

"Sorry, New York, But London Is actually The World's Real Capital City" .

As for London " Hopless for mongering " in your Fixed Posts. , I leave it to more experienced London Mongers than I to comment on it.

And here I rest my case and leave you with a song dedicated to all London lovers. How much I am going to miss London in the next few months.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PEOtZPHDjU

Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner.

[Dreams]

Answer. Go to London to see Big Ben, The Thames, The London Eye, Buckingham Palace etc. But most definitely NOT if you fancy a great night with a sexy lady. You will search long and hard for it and most likely end up out of pocket and very disappointed. London is great for business and great for site-seeing. And hopeless for mongering!

Probably true if you are a tourist with little time to do research.

I have been living here since 30+ years, and explored the world as well. Banged more than 1000 women in more than 30 countries. London remains for those who know one of the best places for mongering, with incredible variable choice. Of course, no comparison with German FKKs or Bangkok, but in the Western world far better than Paris, Rome, let alone all Nordic cities and the US.

In London: Soho walk-ups for 20 £, some gems to be found there; anything you fancy on adultwork (want a pregnant Asian girl?: you'll find her); parties (All you can f. In 2 hours); Top level escorts; Cheap HJs in Chinese backrooms; High level sophisticated MPs etc. Cheap strip clubs with gorgeous girls spreading it (FYEO), expensive lap dance clubs for rich corporate people etc.

Where else in the West?

[PayForIt]

Again,
It's official: London is the most popular destination for tourists in the world. "The number of foreign tourists visiting London surged by 20 per cent last summer to a new record. Making it the world's most popular destination. "Half a million German tourists think the same as well.

LOL. Now Brits have to fight them for the best spot on the Beaches "We shall fight them on the beaches. For the best spot: Half a million German tourists a year are visiting Britain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...man-tourists-y

Hi Jojo and I do love your posts as they are informative. I am in London nearly every week. I love the city. It's an amazing place to visit as a tourist. But I maintain that it is a dreadful place to visit to monger in other than via escorts. Many of whom just do NOT look like their photoshopped picture when you or they arrive. I've given up on them because it is SO hit and miss. MP's are almost restricted to the chinese cheap and dirty variety where FS is almost non-existent. Even then, most have the sexy cleavage showing pretty girl on reception. Who then introduces the 52 year old Mum who is not at all sexy, in a size 18 dress who is taking you for your massage and if you really have the nerve the rushed HJ at the end. Not my idea of a great punt. Oh I've gotten lucky sometimes and got the odd pretty one. About 2 out of 40 visits in London. So they are out too if a punter wants a nice evening, in a nice environment, with a few sexy ladies and then some fun. Your link in your second post to London after dark didn't work (you'd dropped the www) but I got there. I know the Gentlemen's clubs well. They are a hopeless waste of money as you say. Pretty girls in sexy dresses employed to do nothing but persuade you to spend many hundreds of pounds on cheap champagne or more on the real stuff. And in return. Well in my experience if you then fancy paying upwards of £500 per hour for further "company" back at your hotel it is sometimes possible but I've never managed to lose my mind to that extent. There are budgets and budgets. £500 per hour is far more than mine. And don't forget you'd have spent £300+ in the club by then. So. Where are we up to:

1. Escorts. Completely hit and miss, often not the same girl in the picture, often much fatter than in the photoshopped picture. Cost of cab to her or more money for incall and then having to go through with it when you don't like the girl or simply do without or start again and hope the next one is better. NOT a great option.

2. MPs. Cheap and dirty and likely to get nothing more than an unfulfilling HJ by someone who is again completely unattractive. NOT a great option.

3. Gentlemans Clubs. Incredibly expensive. Likely to lead to you sitting with a stunning girl who you really want to session with until you realise that you've blown all your cash on cheap champagne and either she says no or wants so much you need a mortgage to get it. NOT a great option.

4. Walk ups in Soho. Wan't a bad suggestion a previous poster had of saying. Not done this before. Great I'm off to get some cash. If the line up is awful. An option I suppose. No capacity to sit and have a beer etc and select though.

Which takes me back to brothels. Which in nearly every City in the UK are described as Massage Parlours (have a look at Punterlink) even though they are not of the chinese variety and AR in fact brothels. It is a stone wall fact that in every UK city other than London where population exceeds 250,000 (and in many with less) there are these brothels. Known and advertised openly in the local press and on the net as Massage Parlours. Where you can go in, maybe sit in a reception and get a couple of drinks, meet with a selection of ladies all introduced to you for selection. For a great example. Take a look at http://www.sandyssuperstars.com Two locations in Manchester. Advertised in newspapers openly. Described as Massage Parlour but FS available from a selection of ladies on the daily rota and they are nearly all really attractive and you can read their punter link reviews before you attend to get feedback from other mongers. Bit like here on ISG. Great prices, great service, great girls, great selection, good choice, great facilities. I'm not just advocating their cause lest anyone think I'm advertising for them. I'm not. I've given details of their competitors in Manchester. Bentleys, Sheridans, New Cosmopolitan, Tropical Palms. All similar. All advertised in newspapers as Massage Parlours and none with any record of police raids or being closed. Amazing.

Is it REALLY too much to expect the Capital City of (you say The World) to have ONE of these facilities? I think not.

Answer. Go to London to see Big Ben, The Thames, The London Eye, Buckingham Palace etc. But most definitely NOT if you fancy a great night with a sexy lady. You will search long and hard for it and most likely end up out of pocket and very disappointed. London is great for business and great for site-seeing. And hopeless for mongering!

[Jojosun]

London after dark up to 4 am for Mongers where take out is available for a price. Not suitable for someone on a budget.

http://londonafterdark.co.uk/london-...ubs-in-london.

This one been there for years Rififi club "This exclusive gentlemen's Club and has been around in Mayfair for almost fifty years. The club's facilities include a bar, restaurant and about fifteen hostesses to entice you. ".

Chaplins Club was one of the best known of hostess clubs where as many 30 girls where there at a time & available for take out after buying ladies drinks ie a bottle or 2 of Champagne. It was closed down.

"Is it all over for Mr Soho? " http://www.standard.co.uk/news/is-it...o-6979938.html.

"For more than 30 years, Oskar Owide. Now 72 - ran hostess bars where girls tricked gullible punters into paying vast sums for cheap drinks. If the customer could afford to keep paying the bar bills until 3 am, he could take home a girl for sex, at a minimum £500 a time" .

Once I accompanied a monied older relative to that club and the take out price for the girl was £300 paid to her on top of the prices for the drinks.

Well its not over for "Mr Soho" as he is still around to be seen at by the door, meet &greet at a well known West End Lap Dance club.

[Jojosun]

. It's just really odd that London fails so badly on this front. It is the only capital city I've ever been to where MPs are completely underground. Jojosun has responded with posts about police closing down various MPs in London including Sun and Dream. What I just do not understand is the complete inconsistency on the enforcement front. I mentioned Manchester but if you search for MPs in ANY city other than London they are plentiful and easy to locate on the internet. McCoys guide has them all listed. So what is the big deal with London? Short of tantric massage (not real) or escorts it is devoid of parlours without this fear factor. I'm just not up for this quick and dirty walk up stuff. I like to go somewhere where you can get a drink, enjoy a leisurely selection and have some fun. The FKK clubs in Germany are amazing and as you say the Clubs in Spain offer this. The difference in both is that it is all legal. The result is that they don't need cheap and dirty walk ups though SWs are still prominent (again not my scene). I've just accepted that London is a bad mongering destination.

Again, MPs are not Brothels. Brothels are referred to as Parlors and Parlors are not completely underground as some of them advertise openly. Some don't get mentioned here as in a World War 11 Poster "loose Lips sink Ships".

The one that was closed as called Sun& Steam not Sun& Dream. "What I just do not understand is the complete inconsistency on the enforcement front" Different police forces, different enforcement. It happens not just in the UK but in the Us as well.

There are no FKK style clubs as in Germany, But Germany is Germany and London is London. BTW I am just a long time on& off Resident of London & I don't work for London Tourist Board either.

My conclusion, London is a great Destination to visit & live in with great Mongering opportunities. Capital City of the World, period.

Figures tell the whole story http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-is-the-most-p.

It's official: London is the most popular destination for tourists in the world. "The number of foreign tourists visiting London surged by 20 per cent last summer to a new record. Making it the world's most popular destination. "Half a million German tourists think the same as well.

LOL. Now Brits have to fight them for the best spot on the Beaches "We shall fight them on the beaches. For the best spot: Half a million German tourists a year are visiting Britain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...man-tourists-y