St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Param Ahmad]

Hi,
I will be landing on 4/20.
I don't recall seeing Caroline's.
Is it possible to give directions or describe where it is?
Thanks

Assuming the locations haven't changed in 4 and a half years, I suggest you read my report #3192 on 9-30-2010, which has driving directions and GPS coordinates for most of the clubs on the island, including Carolina's. Reading back a few pages, it appears Seaman's is now renamed Hypnotic.

Can anybody say where Bliss is located?

[Xanadont]

How do you guys feel about posting negative reviews of ladies? I did have one somewhat negative session on my recent trip to St. Maarten. Should I post about it here and mention the lady by name?

The reason I ask: I know that at some forums they try to promote a positive vibe; anyone who posts something negative is branded a troll. Since I'm new here, I wouldn't want to violate forum etiquette just because I'm ignorant of it.

My own opinion is that a negative review can be helpful, assuming it's polite and states the reason (s) why the party wasn't good. For example, if only one guy posts a negative review of a particular chica, I might not think ill of her. (Maybe he was rude to her, or maybe she just had a bad day; who knows?) But if multiple guys post negative reviews of the same lady, that may be someone I wouldn't want to waste my time on the next time I'm in St. Maarten. Do you agree?

[Puntz79]

Anyone going to be on island the week of the 22 June?

Very possible, I'm planning on being there either that same weekend or the week after. Interested in seeing the refreshed lineup at Carolina's and Hypnotic.

[Mel365]

Anyone going to be on island the week of the 22 June?

[Mel365]

The TNL at Carolinas and Seamans used to be $70- plus the chicas fee 3-400.

At El Capitan it is 2-300 until the chica pays off her contract.

Then it is negotiable.

At campo the Multa was 200 last time I was there.

I am not a big fan of TNL as the chicas want to go to dinner and the disco. You might get laid once or twice and possibly once in the AM.

They want to rush out in the am to get back to the club.

If I find a superstar I have ben known to take them out for days at a time. However I have a special arrangement with a number of club owners.

For a first timer I think time in the clubs with a few pops a night and a few in the day is a much better value.

Mel.

[IslandMonger]

This is great info IM, thank you. Bar fines at SXM clubs are typically $70, so I doubt I will be doing any TLNs if they are $200-$300 at Campo, but I will definitely try my luck with some daytime excursions.

During my last SXM visit we were able to bring a few girls back to the villa for some pool parties during their free time. It sounds like this may be easier to do at Campo. I look forward to trying it out.

The $200-300 could have been bar fine plus chica fee. Again I'm not a TLN guy so no first hand experience, but Campo is typically cheaper than SXM, so I can't imagine it being more than the fee there. I'm 95% certain Chicas can come and go as they please during the daytime, so with any chemistry, you should be able to hang in the day time for free.

Good luck!

[Puntz79]

The $100 appears to be the new rate and I believe it was the same at Carolina's but this is coming from a chica I know who works there. I had done TLN with a chica from Crystal too and the rate was not $70. I was in SXM the very first weekend in May. And in April as well. Both times $100. It's possible there was a rate change in March / April but I don't know for sure.

At Hypnotique the charge was $100 in March. At least that's what I was told and paid. I thought a girl at Carolonas said the same but maybe too many beers to remember correctly. Might the multa go down this fall in slow season or is this likely to be the new going rate. I remember last fall it was $70.

[Barkey]

As of late April of this year, Carolina's was still $70.

At Hypnotique the charge was $100 in March. At least that's what I was told and paid. I thought a girl at Carolonas said the same but maybe too many beers to remember correctly. Might the multa go down this fall in slow season or is this likely to be the new going rate. I remember last fall it was $70.

[DavisLucJr]

As of late April of this year, Carolina's was still $70.

[Puntz79]

What DavisLucJr said is correct. The main brothels do open at 11, and many TLNs are dropped off at work before the start as they check-in at that time generally. It is quieter in the daytime during the offseason, but you can always ask the bartender to send out a few chicas or just be patient for one to walk through. I don't really begin my daytime action until about 2-3 PM though, if I did a TLN I'll usually drop her off and the crash back the hotel for a few hours to recharge. Or there are times where I will hold off until 4 or 5 PM but this is usually a time when the chicas are resting, or out until 8 PM which is when you see things start to become interesting. Less chicas are in the bar during the day, but I have been able to find a couple gems too. Daytime chicas also tend to be slightly less concerned with time too, probably because there aren't a lot of customers during the day. So getting an extra 10-15 minutes is not out of the question, but YMMV.

Also the multas for TLN have gone up recently, if I am not mistaken it's $100 now. If others have seen different, please do share. Previously this used to be $70.

One club that never gets mentioned is Crystal's which is right across from Carolina and tends to look a little intimidating on the outside as there are a bunch of locals sitting there watching individuals drive / walk by. It is smaller than the other clubs, but I have found a couple gems there too. It's mostly Dominicanas, but they always seem to have a couple Colombianas.

[DavisLucJr]

From personal experience, Carolina's, Hypnotic, & Casablanca open at around 11 am. They may very well seem closed when you walk in, but rest assured they are open. You may have to speak with a bartender to call some girls out, but it is generally a good idea to know who you are looking for if you stroll in at 11 am.

El Capitan and Crystal are also open during the day, but I do not know what time their doors open.

I have no daytime experience with the other 3 clubs.

As a side note, keep in mind that this is the Caribbean. Following times and schedules here means a lot less to them than it does to your typical North American.

Thanks loads, guys. I'm learning so much!

My first trip to StM was in early May. My pre-trip planning research had indicated that May was NOT a busy time of year and, consequently, most of the brothels on StM would be closed during the day and that they wouldn't open until 8 pm or so. (I didn't know about ISG back then.) So I didn't even TRY a daytime visit. Judging from your responses, I was misinformed. (Serves me right for trusting what I read on the internet!) I just did a deeper search of this thread and UltraHappy's post that said some of the StM open between 11 a-12 noon for a daytime session. If I had known that before my trip, it would've changed my whole plan. If ever a place needed an easy-to-google Monger FAQ, it's St. Maarten.

The last couple of days I've been searching for posts or a website that lists the operating hours of St Maarten's brothels. My thought here is that this info would help me plan my days on the island. I've read about 100 posts in this thread so far and still have only found the operating hours for Carolina.

Do St Maarten's brothels keep fixed opening hours?

Or do opening times change with the seasons, making it pointless to plan ahead?

If so, is there a better plan than just to start driving from house to house around 11 am or 12 noon to check which are open? (They're not too far apart, so I guess that wouldn't be so bad.).

[DavisLucJr]

This is great info IM, thank you. Bar fines at SXM clubs are typically $70, so I doubt I will be doing any TLNs if they are $200-$300 at Campo, but I will definitely try my luck with some daytime excursions.

During my last SXM visit we were able to bring a few girls back to the villa for some pool parties during their free time. It sounds like this may be easier to do at Campo. I look forward to trying it out.

Hey Davis,

I never partook in TLN or TLD action personally at Campo, but from what I gathered, this is how it works.

Girls are required to be at Campo at 6 pm for a "roll call" and have to stay until 3-4 am. Of course you can take them out with a stiff bar fine during this time, I think in the $200-300 range (not sure if that is US $ or Floren), plus whatever price you negotiate with the girl. This is not my cup of tea but from what I remember about ST. Martin, I think it's similar pricing.

Day time is completely different. Girls can come and go as they please with no bar fine, and many of them are dying to spend a few hours outside of Campo, so will jump at the opportunity. A few girls I was with asked to spend the day with me for free, but I declined.

Remember most of the clientele at Campo are locals, so the girls don't get out the much. If you have any chemistry with the girl, I'm confident you can get TLD for free, but she has to be back by 6 pm.

Again, I never partook so don't have first hand knowledge, but this was my understanding from a few threads and conversations with the girls.

[Xanadont]

... You might want to consider mongering during the day time as you should be able to encounter a more relaxed atmosphere ...

Thanks loads, guys. I'm learning so much!

My first trip to StM was in early May. My pre-trip planning research had indicated that May was NOT a busy time of year and, consequently, most of the brothels on StM would be closed during the day and that they wouldn't open until 8 pm or so. (I didn't know about ISG back then.) So I didn't even TRY a daytime visit. Judging from your responses, I was misinformed. (Serves me right for trusting what I read on the internet!) I just did a deeper search of this thread and UltraHappy's post that said some of the StM open between 11 a-12 noon for a daytime session. If I had known that before my trip, it would've changed my whole plan. If ever a place needed an easy-to-google Monger FAQ, it's St. Maarten.

The last couple of days I've been searching for posts or a website that lists the operating hours of St Maarten's brothels. My thought here is that this info would help me plan my days on the island. I've read about 100 posts in this thread so far and still have only found the operating hours for Carolina.

Do St Maarten's brothels keep fixed opening hours?

Or do opening times change with the seasons, making it pointless to plan ahead?

If so, is there a better plan than just to start driving from house to house around 11 am or 12 noon to check which are open? (They're not too far apart, so I guess that wouldn't be so bad.).

[IslandMonger]

So my travelling companions and I have been thinking about trying out a new venue after years of going to SXM. We've been thinking of trying out Campo based on many comments in both this thread and the Curacao thread.

Some of our party really enjoy TLN & TLD. I've been through quite a bit of the Curacao thread but have been unable to find anything concrete on how this works at Campo (eg bar fines and times of day). If anyone here has any insight, I would greatly appreciate the info, via the thread or even a PM.

Thanks!

Hey Davis,

I never partook in TLN or TLD action personally at Campo, but from what I gathered, this is how it works.

Girls are required to be at Campo at 6 pm for a "roll call" and have to stay until 3-4 am. Of course you can take them out with a stiff bar fine during this time, I think in the $200-300 range (not sure if that is US $ or Floren), plus whatever price you negotiate with the girl. This is not my cup of tea but from what I remember about ST. Martin, I think it's similar pricing.

Day time is completely different. Girls can come and go as they please with no bar fine, and many of them are dying to spend a few hours outside of Campo, so will jump at the opportunity. A few girls I was with asked to spend the day with me for free, but I declined.

Remember most of the clientele at Campo are locals, so the girls don't get out the much. If you have any chemistry with the girl, I'm confident you can get TLD for free, but she has to be back by 6 pm.

Again, I never partook so don't have first hand knowledge, but this was my understanding from a few threads and conversations with the girls.

[Mel365]

My first rule is to spend some time with the chicas before going to the room. . Many times you will be approached immediately by a chica. In my experience these are chicas who are not doing so well and need the business.

Always spend time with the chica to see what is going on. Like 10-15 minutes or more.

In carolinas you can ask the chica to join you for a snack in the Chinese restaurant. You can then check them out. . I always enter through the restaurant and check out the chicas eating. I have spoken to the owner of carolinas about the noise years ago and he said It is a club and should be loud.