North China - Beijing

[EricMike]

Thank you very much for your comments. At least you give me your observations, your arguments and the reasons behind.

But, still, as you can see, there is no logic in every point that can support the "conclusion":

1) There have previously fake reviews for Kitty in the past. So, you mean my reviews have some common senses with the old ones? To be honest, I cannot imagine, how the fake ones can look similar to my frank review?! Is it because that I only express my thanks but not with enough details? So, maybe in the future I should describe my experience in more details.

2) Yes, this is my first review, but I really don't know that the unwritten law here is that the first review should not be with so many praises. Or let's say, I agree with you that in fact many fake reviewers register, post advertisements, then leave. I fully understand, but can we really judge the other people as "shitty fake" just because we guess he may be one of the fakers? For instance, if I don't like somebody here, can I address him "shit" or "fake"? I think this misconduct should not be tolerated if we still want a healthy atmosphere in this public space. You have posted more than 700 reports, this means you have dedicate much time and energy to this space and definitely, you like this place. So, let's stop the misconduct of some members here.

3) About this point, to be honest, I don't know what I should say. In Valencia, I tried some girls from Felina, and in Wien, I tried many times in the most well-known sex studio. I fully understand the difference between Kitty and these agencies. And without any doubt, if you are a guy who speaks German very well, I recommend you to try the sex studio in Wien, it is amazing! But, unfortunately, it seems that we are currently in Beijing. So, I will appreciate you if you or other friends here can give me more viewpoints as "regular members", for instance, PM me to recommend me other agency in Beijing which definitely be better than Kitty, then I will try and contribute my comments here. But, still, hope at that moment nobody will say "oh, that shit faker comes back! No, this guy now is bought by another agency"!

4) Sure, my mother language is not English. My mother language is Chinese, but I lived in Europe for many years. And unfortunately again, my Spanish and German are much better than English. But still, I don't get how my poor English indicates I am a shitty faker.

Finally, thank you very much to let me know how to become a genuine poster. And my question is that what will happen if so far I only know Kitty in Beijing and unfortunately I try her service again and more unfortunately I still want to say something regarding her service? What is "be flamed"? Please forgive my poor English, maybe you translate it to German, I will understand better. Don't worry about my street cred, I will post my frank comments and reviews in the future, which will be definitely useful for this society. Trust me, I am a good writer and observer with good manner.

So, as you can see, now the case for me is so difficult. Only knowing Kitty, enjoying the service, but not allowed to say what I want to say. I think this situation does not bring shame on me, but on the whole public space here. Maybe we should learn from this lesson -- how a freshman becomes a shitty faker!

No offense, but really what I want to say. Thank you for giving me the chance to explain. Best regards.

Mike

[QUOTE=Ikksman;1739283]As an outside observer, I can understand why some members concluded that your post was a "fake review". I imagine that their conclusion was based on the following:

There have previously been a number of reviews of Kitty that were obviously fake
This was your first post on ISG (similar to the fake reviewers)
Regular members here generally agree that Kitty's service is not worth the time and money
Some of your English usage indicates (to me) that English is not your primary language (Chinese?)

If you are a genuine poster, please continue to post your experiences in China. But remember if you continue to post only about Kitty's service, you will likely be flamed - at least until you have established some 'street cred'.

[EricMike]

Many thanks. To be honest, I don't understand what mistakes I have made to make myself "shitty fake". I mean, those kinds of malicious attacks should not be tolerated in this public space.

I like this forum, and of course, I am not experienced yet, so I will be very much grateful if you could guide me with more tips in the PM.

Best wishes!

Mike

Thanks for your report, that's what this forum needs and is missing I guess not at least to those wise guys who look down onto us lowly ignorant guys. I had a great experience with Fiona a "colleague" of Kitty.

Now I have my own regulars I got to know over many visits. PM me for details.

Gregory.

[FernandoAlonso]

Hmmm, going on my 9th year in Asia, married to a Chinese woman and senior laoban for a Chinese operation. But you're right, I know nothing about this country.

Here's what I can tell you for sure, most of the people in the Shanghai forum genuinely try to be helpful. It is the minority that shows the attitude or 'negativity' you refer to.

I read through the Beijing forum for many, many, pages before posting my request for information. I attempted to qualify myself by inviting people to review my posts, showing that I am a contributor and not just a leach. I did receive a couple helpful suggestions, but none worked for my case. So, I followed the only other information available in the forum. Then I get told that no wonder I had a shitty experience, and you tell me there is limited information in this forum and the senior members know why.

I'm done with this conversation but will gladly help any active member looking for support in Shanghai.

Taz.

Bro,

Your response proofs my point as does your posting history (also in Shanghai). Asia is not China (yes, China is in Asia but very unique) and being married to a Chinese does not give you any I sight in the domestic mongering scene. On the contrary.

I would never claim I know all about China because that is the first learning almost every foreigner fails to recognise. You never can know China. You still not understand the silence here (and yes, Shanghai is different) you cannot be helped. See your photo soon in the People's Daily. I know when to shut up in this country.

But each to his own.

FA.

BTW: one last advise no chinese would ever call himself senior laoban. There is only one real boss, if you need call yourself senior you are not in charge. Nice title though will impress all foreigners, chinese will laugh their head off. Of course behind your back. They will congratulate your brilliant Chinese knowledge. No offence intended. Just truth to be told.

[Ikksman]

Hey gentleman,{S N I P}
You of course have the right to be with different view points, but, how can you think my review is fake?! Were you in the same room when I experienced the girl? How did you judge my feeling?
{S N I P}

As an outside observer, I can understand why some members concluded that your post was a "fake review". I imagine that their conclusion was based on the following:

• There have previously been a number of reviews of Kitty that were obviously fake
• This was your first post on ISG (similar to the fake reviewers)
• Regular members here generally agree that Kitty's service is not worth the time and money
• Some of your English usage indicates (to me) that English is not your primary language (Chinese?)

If you are a genuine poster, please continue to post your experiences in China. But remember if you continue to post only about Kitty's service, you will likely be flamed - at least until you have established some 'street cred'.

Cheers

[GregoryB]

Thanks for your report, that's what this forum needs and is missing I guess not at least to those wise guys who look down onto us lowly ignorant guys. I had a great experience with Fiona a "colleague" of Kitty.

Now I have my own regulars I got to know over many visits. PM me for details.

Gregory.

Hey man,

How are you? Of course I can accept different comments for my review. But, why and how you think you can say my review is "shitty fake".

Why? Could you please pint out which word or phrase in my review is fake? Then, please let everybody here see the evidence!

This is quite ridiculous!

I got the service from Kitty, and I enjoyed it, like it, and will continue trying it in the future, why do you think my feeling is shitty? How offensive you are!

Listen, of course maybe you don't like Kitty's girls, then please give you reports, and I will not criticize you, because I don't know your feeling. Why you think my report is fake?

You should apologize or show your evidence!

I am a freshman, and in the past I was mainly in Europe, recently I came back to China and started with the escorts of Kitty in coincidence. And, I tried twice, very good, then I gave my reports here to let other people know, am I wrong?

Please take responsibility of your comments and show your respect to others!

[Tazman099]

Taz,

Of course you do not read it correctly but you know that yourself.

All others with less negativity and more understanding of China be assured who seeks help in Hogwarts will find it. Anyone putting in minimal effort can ask and will get help the proper way. A lot of knowledge is here and available.

If you are aggressive and ignore how things are done in this country why should anyone endanger himself to help you?

Enough said.

FA.

Hmmm, going on my 9th year in Asia, married to a Chinese woman and senior laoban for a Chinese operation. But you're right, I know nothing about this country.

Here's what I can tell you for sure, most of the people in the Shanghai forum genuinely try to be helpful. It is the minority that shows the attitude or 'negativity' you refer to.

I read through the Beijing forum for many, many, pages before posting my request for information. I attempted to qualify myself by inviting people to review my posts, showing that I am a contributor and not just a leach. I did receive a couple helpful suggestions, but none worked for my case. So, I followed the only other information available in the forum. Then I get told that no wonder I had a shitty experience, and you tell me there is limited information in this forum and the senior members know why.

I'm done with this conversation but will gladly help any active member looking for support in Shanghai.

Taz.

[EricMike]

Hey gentleman,

Maybe you have bad feeling with the service from the girls of Kitty, but at least for me, a guy who just came back from Europe, I give a very positive comment to her service!

You of course have the right to be with different view points, but, how can you think my review is fake?! Were you in the same room when I experienced the girl? How did you judge my feeling?

I also had many experiences with escorts in Spain and Austria. To be honest, Chinese girls are of course different from European girls. But I also gave them good comments, why can't I do this to Chinese girls if I want?

I am also tired of the fake reviews on Kitty service. I know better from previous experience. It is a low end service that you will only try once as you will not get what is written in these fake reviews. Kitty only business is new people on this site that get tricked by these fake reviews. I advise all new people who read this forum to avoid Kitty services. Save your money for a good experience. This crap has been going on for years.

[EricMike]

Hey man,

How are you? Of course I can accept different comments for my review. But, why and how you think you can say my review is "shitty fake".

Why? Could you please pint out which word or phrase in my review is fake? Then, please let everybody here see the evidence!

This is quite ridiculous!

I got the service from Kitty, and I enjoyed it, like it, and will continue trying it in the future, why do you think my feeling is shitty? How offensive you are!

Listen, of course maybe you don't like Kitty's girls, then please give you reports, and I will not criticize you, because I don't know your feeling. Why you think my report is fake?

You should apologize or show your evidence!

I am a freshman, and in the past I was mainly in Europe, recently I came back to China and started with the escorts of Kitty in coincidence. And, I tried twice, very good, then I gave my reports here to let other people know, am I wrong?

Please take responsibility of your comments and show your respect to others!

Getting tired of those shitty fake reviews of Kitty's.

Lev.

[Canada]

Lev,

Could not have said it better. If prices and service were that great why the constant need for fake reviews?

There are people here who put up trustworthy reviews and some people are indeed happy using these providers. Why not if you lack the time and possibilities to find other options? But my verdict stands firm. These are low value for money options.

But whatever rocks your boat. Waiguorende yanjing dou you wenti. Try that with your Chinese colleagues and friends they will agree. But as long as you are happy why care others opinion? Each to his own.

Kitty and co will soon charge 1500. Some people will still be happy.

Happy mongering.

FA.

I am also tired of the fake reviews on Kitty service. I know better from previous experience. It is a low end service that you will only try once as you will not get what is written in these fake reviews. Kitty only business is new people on this site that get tricked by these fake reviews. I advise all new people who read this forum to avoid Kitty services. Save your money for a good experience. This crap has been going on for years.

[Pushkin13]

Andreas: where are you?

How I miss your useful reports, and not just because you scoured BJ on your trusty bicycle.

Andreas: please return, and give us field reports and liven up the boring BJ thread.

Where are you?

Best wishes.

P13.

[Kaywhy]

Always pay. Free is not free. Value your freedom. Life in captivity sucks.

Anyone who is or has ever been married should understand this comment.

[Worm]

And I always pay less than you, or do not need to pay at all. So who should really brag?

Seriously, you do not think that your comments are quite unnecessary? Everyone is different and everyone have different priorities.

Always pay. Free is not free. Value your freedom. Life in captivity sucks.

[FernandoAlonso]

Getting tired of those shitty fake reviews of Kitty's.

Lev.

Lev,

Could not have said it better. If prices and service were that great why the constant need for fake reviews?

There are people here who put up trustworthy reviews and some people are indeed happy using these providers. Why not if you lack the time and possibilities to find other options? But my verdict stands firm. These are low value for money options.

But whatever rocks your boat. Waiguorende yanjing dou you wenti. Try that with your Chinese colleagues and friends they will agree. But as long as you are happy why care others opinion? Each to his own.

Kitty and co will soon charge 1500. Some people will still be happy.

Happy mongering.

FA.

[FernandoAlonso]

If I read this and some other posts correctly (one post in particular yelling at a member for giving away helpful information) the reason this board has become so unhelpful is that the senior members 'in the know' have decided to not share information. I assume this is due to how shitty the Beijing scene has become and they want to keep the few good places to themselves.

So much for the brotherhood.

Taz.

Taz,

Of course you do not read it correctly but you know that yourself.

All others with less negativity and more understanding of China be assured who seeks help in Hogwarts will find it. Anyone putting in minimal effort can ask and will get help the proper way. A lot of knowledge is here and available.

If you are aggressive and ignore how things are done in this country why should anyone endanger himself to help you?

Enough said.

FA.

[Levitian]

Getting tired of those shitty fake reviews of Kitty's.

Lev.

It just happened one hour ago! Kitty arranged me a neighbor girl to me within a very short time, and I enjoyed a lot!

The thing is that in this afternoon, I suddenly decided to call a girl in this evening. So, I sent sms to Kitty and amazingly she recommended a girl who matches my requirements and preferences very much within a very short time. I have to say, Kitty is very professional on organization and she always knows you (but of course you should let her know your expectation firstly).

Anyway, I had one hour very happy time with Yuyu. She is quite talkative and open mind with very good shape and manner. I have to say, in the near future, I will call Kitty again for another fantastic experience!

Many thanks for Kitty and Yuyu!

Cheers!