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[Marine One]

No other problems except the Urinary Tract Infection in November that was treated and cured right away (I missed Charli XCX's Album Release Party that I was invited to thanks to that problem!

That is funny you mentioned it. Around the same time I was at F39 where I met a girl who I thought reminded me of Charli XCX. I gave her a nice back rub while a song by Charli XCX, "Break the Rules," was playing. It ended with me giving her a big cream pie, one of my best memories of the trip.

Happy to say, no STDs were contracted.

[XXL]

As I reported in a previous post, I got the Chlamydia prize 3 times out of 7 or 8 AO stints (at least 3 girls each time) at La Luna some years ago before it closed and reopened. For me, barebacking carries a much higher risk of STD in Germany than it does eg in the Cameroons or than it did in the good old days in Jakarta. Too many desperate barebackers from Europe and the World converging on too few barebacking venues IMO. Unless you have a cock coated in teflon which some punters here seem to have.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Maybe a silly question, but I am interested in the process you went through to find a doctor in Germany (I assume you went in Germany). Did you just go to the nearest? And did he\she ask for details of your recent sex?

I went on-line and got the name of a doctor or clinic (I forget what search term I used). When I got to the address, it was not there. I went into a nearby pharmacy and asked where it was and was told it was no longer there. She gave me the address of a hospital with a walk-in clinic and I went there for treatment. He asked me about my sexual activity. Perhpas the easiest thing to do is just to go to a pharmacy and ask where you can get tested.

[Member #4359]

I had no unprotected sex (except for BBBJ at the FKKs in Germany) until I went to Freude 39 and Grimsberg. I had AO intercourse with 6 girls over two days. The third day noticed my right testicle had swelled but I thought it was due to it getting twisted or sucked too hard, so I went to Villa Romantika and fucked three girls there AO but by the end of the day it had become so painful that I rested the next day and finally went to a doctor the day after when the pain continued and found out is was Orchitis. When I got the previous infection, I comtacted Club Angelique and got an acknowledgement but Villa Venus never responded.

I just wanted to point out that Orchitis can be caused by STD's (chlamydia or gonorrhea) but is not itself an STD. It is an inflammation of the testes, sometimes from the STD's mentioned and sometimes from epididymitis or brucellosis. It is fairly easily treated with antibiotics.

I agree that prompt reporting of full details is the best way to deal with these things. Then all concerned parties can act as they see fit.

To the anti-AO hysterics, there are many serious contagious diseases that are transmitted more easily than STD's to which you have exposure all the time.

[Usel1]

I just talked with a friend of mine who spent lots of time in FKK and similar.

He told me he knew the lady take antibiotics as prevention.

I know also in Thailand lots of girl use same procedure to prevent STD.

I talk as I do for job with doctors who gave me different opinion.

Someones think is silly and dangerous as antibiotics destroy flora and main functionality of the whole health system but some, e. G. , prescript antibiotics in case of, e. G. , cystitis, one pill after sex!

So, I suppose all of the girl gets antibiotics, may be, once a working day but it doesn't mean STD are avoided.

[Optimist]

Jimmy Boy. As so often I can see it is not possible to pin down exactly who transmitted it to you. We can only hope that the clubs you contacted arranged for extra testing of the workers. At La Luna I believe the girls are tested monthly.

Maybe a silly question, but I am interested in the process you went through to find a doctor in Germany (I assume you went in Germany). Did you just go to the nearest? And did he\she ask for details of your recent sex?

[Jimmy Boy 99]

But I think it would be good to say something like I noticed the infection on this date and over the previous month I had unprotected sex at these clubs on these dates. Please also report what other unprotected sex you have been having outside of the AO club as it is possible that you may have picked this up from a girlfriend / casual acquaintance.

Armed with this knowledge then punters can choose to stay away from a particular club for a while just in case they catch something. However if they like taking risks then they may go anyway. Maybe that is part of the thrill of AO for some.

I don't think it is fair to point out which girls at AO clubs you had sex with who could have given you the infection because.

1) If you had sex with two girls and one gave you the infection then one girl would be unfairly tainted.

2) Guys usually have sex with more than one girl at the club so the infection may have spread from one girl to others by the time that the problem is reported so which girl had it first is probably irrelevant.

So report on here which clubs you visited but also inform the club if you can.

I had no unprotected sex (except for BBBJ at the FKKs in Germany) until I went to Freude 39 and Grimsberg. I had AO intercourse with 6 girls over two days. The third day noticed my right testicle had swelled but I thought it was due to it getting twisted or sucked too hard, so I went to Villa Romantika and fucked three girls there AO but by the end of the day it had become so painful that I rested the next day and finally went to a doctor the day after when the pain continued and found out is was Orchitis. When I got the previous infection, I comtacted Club Angelique and got an acknowledgement but Villa Venus never responded.

[Member #4460]

It is good to report things and I do wonder why I don't receive any PMs from people concerning questions they might have!

The problem is, there might be someone who speculates they got something from a particular club but it could have been the club that he went to a few days earlier! I could say that I went to this and this club and he can say he went to this and this club but then we tried out different girls. It can be possible to statistically point out which girl is infected but everyone has to compare notes honestly.

No other problems except the Urinary Tract Infection in November that was treated and cured right away (I missed Charli XCX's Album Release Party that I was invited to thanks to that problem!

Last month, a lot of the girls were coughing at Grimberg but that could have been Smoker's cough but I didn't come down with any colds!

[Myrrh]

I have moved these posts below from the Club La Luna thread to this thread as they were more concerned about the acquisition of infections from AO clubs rather than about La Luna in particular.

Hi WG,

I was wondering if you had picked up any STDs after your forays inn the AO ckubs. I went in April to Freude 39 and Grimsberg and got Orchitis (inflamation of the testicles). I am planning to go at the end of this week and was hoping the problem had cleared up. I tried to PM you about this but you don't have PM priviledges. Pllease PM me if you don't want to respond on the forum. Thanks.

JB.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune but if it is any consolation you are almost certainly not alone in picking up infections from your chosen past time.

Many / most (or should that be almost all?) will have picked up nasty along the way but this tends to be chronically under reported.

It spoils the machismo to admit any weaknesses or incidences of bad luck.

So guys report instead that they visited an AO club and splatter gunned the inside of the pussy's of half a dozen or so girls that happened to be there.

Woke the next day and repeated, but this time at a different club.

They have never picked up anything from this sort of activity over the years not even a sneeze.

I should have reported it in April but I got so much flak from some posters, who said these things should not be posted, when I reported a previous infection, that I desisted. Perhaps it might have saved someone getting the same thing, although, hopefully, no one did.

Reporting that sometimes there are infections is fine, but it is more difficult when someone reports on a specific place or person as they are not always correct in identifying the person transmitting the infection.

Reporting on a specific board of an infection is wrong. It is a guess that this is related to this club.

Infections take days to surface, no one reports on all the places and activities that have taken place from the time in a specific location.

And this just gives agency and government administrations ammunition to shut places down.

My stance on the above is publish and be damned when it comes to infections. Some news is better than no news.

It would be a tragedy for someone to go a club and pick up an infection which could have been avoided if only someone else had warned him. That guy may have taken time off work and spent lots of money going to Germany only to end up picking up an infection which probably completely ruined his visit. He may also have needed to spend more time and money afterwards curing the infection, assuming it is curable, and infections are often acutely painful as well.

All I would say is that if you are going to report then be accurate and report fully!

If you went to an STD clinic to report an infection they would ask you what sexual partners you have had and what kind of sex (oral, vaginal, anal), whether it was protected and who performed what on who.

They would want these details for at least the past 3 months which is a bit excessive as most STDs manifest themselves within a month and usually two weeks.

So if you want to report then please report as this is useful. But I think it would be good to say something like I noticed the infection on this date and over the previous month I had unprotected sex at these clubs on these dates. Please also report what other unprotected sex you have been having outside of the AO club as it is possible that you may have picked this up from a girlfriend / casual acquaintance.

Armed with this knowledge then punters can choose to stay away from a particular club for a while just in case they catch something. However if they like taking risks then they may go anyway. Maybe that is part of the thrill of AO for some.

I don't think it is fair to point out which girls at AO clubs you had sex with who could have given you the infection because.

1) If you had sex with two girls and one gave you the infection then one girl would be unfairly tainted.

2) Guys usually have sex with more than one girl at the club so the infection may have spread from one girl to others by the time that the problem is reported so which girl had it first is probably irrelevant.

So report on here which clubs you visited but also inform the club if you can.

Normally if there is an outbreak of an infection at a club then it is likely to be noticed and reported to the club by regulars anyway and the club would be expected to then take steps to investigate if there is a problem with particular girls and if so ask those girls to get treatment and to stay away until they are treated.

I can recall at least two reports on this forum over the years of girls at AO clubs who have been forced to take a 'holiday' because they were found to have infections.

In any case why is everyone worried about the reporting of infections picked up at clubs? After all the overwhelming consensus seems to be that it is impossible to pick up infections from AO. The girls never get any despite seeing many guys per day and no guys ever report any infections (apart from seemingly the one guy on here who was honest enough to report that he has picked up AO infections on more than one occasion).

It is impossible to pick up infections from AO clubs and anyone reporting that they have will just not be believed anyway. So why worry?

[Christian G]

Mostly CBJ but some BBBJ.

Oh bad news. I hoped their are mostly (almost all) BBBJ like EBW. Thanks.

[Wanking]

I never been in AP, CBJ or BBBJ?

Mostly CBJ but some BBBJ.

[Christian G]

Spent 2 very enjoyable days in Annie Porsche Gangbang club. .

I never been in AP, CBJ or BBBJ?

[JohnnyO]

Ah, yes, I had completely forgotten about those after nearly two years at LovaFactory Kerpen and FunPark Viersen.

I think it's about time to organize our own AO parties in NRW; I already know at least 6 German guys who are interested. One of them has a proper location (with fixed toilet seats though) and it only depends on the guys from NRW to ask 2 or 3 of the former partygirls if they will do it.

Private party sounds like a plan, I would be up for the that. So long as the light is nothing like spermagames.

Just to add to what wanking said, the only Krefeld party I went to, this may sound a bit strange but after I went I thought it was meh, then as the months past I appreciated it and thought about it more and more. Now I would love to attend another.

[SwingerLover]

Don't forget about the broken toilet seats LOL.

Ah, yes, I had completely forgotten about those after nearly two years at LovaFactory Kerpen and FunPark Viersen.

I think it's about time to organize our own AO parties in NRW; I already know at least 6 German guys who are interested. One of them has a proper location (with fixed toilet seats though) and it only depends on the guys from NRW to ask 2 or 3 of the former partygirls if they will do it.

[Wanking]

I still miss the Krefeld apartment parties though, along with the Turkish and Bulgarian music and all the AO girls. (Sigh!)

Don't forget about the broken toilet seats LOL.

I like visiting Berlin for reasons other than sex, much more English spoken, and I get a great buzz from Berlin that I don't get in the NRW area.

Plus Berlin has the big street scene, great for a perv.