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[Exodus8]

Dear HB,

Please fix the squirrel situation in your country. Many of us have important "business" we need to conduct in your country, so, yeah, could you take care of this please?

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/...8211436468007/

Thanks,

UH.

Yeah I can imagine HB go hunting squirrels for the greater good of all ISGer or thinking "great more gals for me" haha.

HB hunting after the squirrels kills his fav gals, LOL

[The Cane]

This is an old news story but a few years back the police in Ireland took away a blonde, blue-eyed child from a Roma household. Later DNA tests proved that the child was indeed related to the Roma family:

http://www.thejournal.ie/tallaght-dna-1144053-Oct2013/

Although rare, I suppose it is possible for gypsies to have such features. Makes you wonder how many FKK of your favorite girls lie about being gypsy or half-gypsy because they are light enough to pass for being a mainstream Romanian.

Anybody recall this story out of Greece from a few years back?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...red-Maria.html

[UltraHappy]

Dear HB,

Please fix the squirrel situation in your country. Many of us have important "business" we need to conduct in your country, so, yeah, could you take care of this please?

http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2015/...8211436468007/

Thanks,

UH.

[Optimist]

Before the WG started refusing you, how long had you been a customer? How many sessions had you had leading up to the refusal?

Concur. But I guess it all depends. A free 30 minute of time tacked onto a one hour session every once in a while would be a token gesture-if the customer had spent 5000 EUR on a girl over the course of the year. Airlines offer loyalty programs, why not WGs!!

In both cases, between one and two years. Number of sessions? Well if we count number of half hours (I normally took long sessions) I would guess maybe 200 hours a year with each (not at the same time) give or take. What transforms the dynamic is that I don't live in Germany, so the pattern is several days of long sessions followed by maybe six weeks absence.

One gave me substantial free time. The other did not but occasionally met me for a coffee and chat. After the refusal of sex they were happy to remain friends and stay in touch, and they were happy to meet in FKK.

Only thing I am sure of is that they were not playing games since I know I am an easy customer sex wise.

[PussyLiccker]

That article says Hungry 7.9%, and Bulgaria 9.94%. So, I suppose there could be girls that come from Hungry and Bulgaria that are Roma decent.

Supposedly, Elvis Presley is Gypsy. And Snooky from Jersey shore is has gypsy roots. Charlie Chaplin also.

[PussyLiccker]

The term Gypsy derives from Egyptian supposedly, and they are actually group of nomadic people originated from India were mistakenly labeled as such. Parents can carry recessive Genes to produce offspring that look totally different racially.

I have met a Ro Gypsy at Oase that was proud of being one, and was wearing some gypsy outfit at the club, and showed me pictures of gypsy outfit on her smartphone. I took her since she seemed pretty attractive, and it turned out that she provided honest services, and no tricks or ripoff attempted. I've heard about Romani people in Italy that uses tricks to steal from tourists. I've heard that Ro don't like to say they are out from rural places. I guess it's an insult for a girl to say a girl is from outside the city, and is unsophisticated. Like for example, a girl may say, she is not from the city, she does everything. Something of that sorts I guess. I guess girls outside the city are looked down upon. I would guess Ro girls will not admit they are from outside the city as I don't think a Ro girl has ever told me other than a city. This could be due to it being easier to say the city name as it's more easily recognized. I guess stuff like this would be more common in some cultures, and developing or poor countries.

[McAdonis]

This is an old news story but a few years back the police in Ireland took away a blonde, blue-eyed child from a Roma household. Later DNA tests proved that the child was indeed related to the Roma family:

http://www.thejournal.ie/tallaght-dna-1144053-Oct2013/

Although rare, I suppose it is possible for gypsies to have such features. Makes you wonder how many FKK of your favorite girls lie about being gypsy or half-gypsy because they are light enough to pass for being a mainstream Romanian.

According to these figures, Roma make up 8. 6 percent of Romanian population:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-co...ation/41397610

But we have to assume that they disproportionately represented among the poorest communities in Romania, so let's say that 15 percent of the people living below the poverty line in Romania are gypsy. As the poorest, and most-discriminated group, I would think that the gypsy in Romania have the greatest motivation to leave their country--provided they can scrap together enough money, or get financed by a "fish" or "manager".

Some of these girls--as children--may have been forced by their parents to beg for money or steal. Society has looked down upon them their whole lives. Perhaps they have even been verbally abused by complete strangers-so making the transition to being a working girl, probably is not a big deal for them.

[McAdonis]

The most amazing ones are when a girl refuses to have sex because she says she has feelings for me.

Before the WG started refusing you, how long had you been a customer? How many sessions had you had leading up to the refusal?

I never believe these until the girl offers something for free, such as extended time.

Concur. But I guess it all depends. A free 30 minute of time tacked onto a one hour session every once in a while would be a token gesture-if the customer had spent 5000 EUR on a girl over the course of the year. Airlines offer loyalty programs, why not WGs!!

[Optimist]

One clever girl has the brilliant idea of giving me songs about secret passions and lovers who have to part temporarily. It's like sending messages, but in a way which doesn't make her look exploitative. It works well on me.

What also works well on me are the more straightforward statements, if done well either with sincerity or feigned sincerity. Such as, you are special..., age does not count..., I have strong feelings for you..., I don't tell this to anybody else..., if you were not married... in a different life I would like to have seen if we could be together...I would like you to meet my mother....you look after your body...and so on. If badly done it is at least something to joke about, teasing her for bad acting. The most amazing ones are when a girl refuses to have sex because she says she has feelings for me.

I never believe these until the girl offers something for free, such as extended time.

[PussyLiccker]

Wise words. Reading some reports, even by veterans (I am not thinking about Sirioja in particular), it seems pretty clear that the reporter cannot separate girl talk (ego boost talk to make you feel special) from facts. And, just to be clear, there is a absolutely no wrong in what the girl is doing: It's her job to charm and seduce you trying to hook you up and fuck your brains out you within 60 seconds (and to keep you interested after the deed). It's rather impressive sometimes. I wish I had the skills myself when going out on a Saturday night with regular girls!

Just a few examples:

- During slow sex: "I love it when you fuck me slow. You make sex feel so sensational. Not like the other clueless guys who just fuck so hard".

- During intense fucking (sometimes same girl): "Oh, it feels so good to be fucked by a real man. I am so tired of fucking old guys who do not have the power to fuck".

- Questioning the point of DATY when she has been fucking all day: "I fuck all day, but I never get stimulated. Guys are only thinking about their own pleasure". And then the guy go down on her (another 50 E earned).

- Making a guy feel guilty or being one of the few decent guys around by playing vulnerable to make you stay / come back more often: "There are no men around! This club is a failure!" (in fact, last night she had 20 lovers). "Can I sit with you? That guy over there freaks me out. I think he is a pimp / stalker". Yeah, right.

- Or she will make up stories how she needs money for her kids and family, or, if you show some interest, tell horror stories about threats by pimps. Or, that SHE does not have a pimp, but she knows that all the other girls have. Of course. That is an easy way of getting rid of competition. Can you separate girl talk from when she really speaks the truth? Always?

- I once complimented a girl (some incognito Oase girl) for her moves during sex. I had had a long day with too much fun and had problems cuming, but her moves were sensational and just sucked the last drops out of me making me climax very hard. She said that as a young girl in the business she needed to learn this quickly to survive, as too many guys just look for the youngest ones to fuck them as hard as they can. Knowing how to finish a guy fast can sometimes be crucial, although it appears that she is just enjoying it.

Oh for sure. Charm give you an upper hand, and girls that use it well, helps their business. They are in a service industry after all. But, they have to have different type of charming skills than a car sales man or a business man of course. I think it's higher and difficulty level is high since they sometimes have to get the avg to worse looking guys off. Thinking about it, it is kinda like reverse roles. I was complaining about how some of the girls say the same crap, and it's pretty much like when the guys make some lame pick up lines. Some get creative, but if you heard enough of them, you start to question them a bit.

LOL. This one will work on me:

- Making a guy feel guilty or being one of the few decent guys around by playing vulnerable to make you stay / come back more often: "There are no men around! This club is a failure!" (in fact, last night she had 20 lovers). "Can I sit with you? That guy over there freaks me out. I think he is a pimp / stalker". Yeah, right.

I will be that white knight in the FKK club to be the protector. Yes siree. That is me, the non-scary one that smells real nice, and comfy like a teddy bear. LOL.

I had a girl like that as well, who after few days of doing multiple girls a day she amazingly got me to finish twice. She was erotic as hell, but also cold as hell outside the room. She don't approach guys and looks a bit stuck up, but one of those types that are a surprise. I don't recommend other guys to look for these surprise types, it doesn't happen frequently, and probably lots of bad sessions to run into one. I guess finishing guys off quick is an art form so that they can save their privates for more work. This is why experienced girls are weary of certain types like young guys. After some experience they will look for certain types, the easy ones.

[Optimist]

Faceless, thank you for the entertaining, informative, and primarily helpful post.

Every relationship in life is two way, in the sense that each side has to get something out of it. The hard part comes when one side abuses their power.

[Faceless78]

Really helpful and interesting experiences from everybody. It's very complicated since if it turns out a girl really has strong feelings that can be really difficult. One worker got to the point where she said that if people had sex then it meant they should be married: somehow she could have sex with other customers, no problem, but with me sex was only permissible if we got married. This also happened with another worker. It was a real nuisance. They were willing to meet and chat for free, but no more sex.

One time it got even wierder and one girl made it quite clear she didn't want me to visit FKKs at all.!

Less problematical recently a worker kept asking me to stay and making upset faces, so I said that living with her in a clubroom was both far too expensive and not a life: she howled with laughter. I said I had run out of money, at which point she decided it was to allow me leave.

Knowing people makes a great life

It's really nice to learn that many of here share the the similar experiences or feelings. I started FKK alone, and most of my clubs partner were brought in by me, so when I faced some situations you guys mentioned, I was all on my own. Now I know I'm not alone LOL.

I was running into a good girl during my early visit, and she gave me the best time during that period, so I took her as my only girl and now I realize she probably took me as her jackpot;.

I've been asked for financial support by girls in vacations, with all kinds of excuses, and I sent several times by WU, mostly because I didn't know how to refuse, but the amount was small and I stopped at some point;.

Smartphone is the most frequent gift that girls have asked, the biggest one was a car, but never an apartment LOL;.

In every clubs I visit regularly, I've got some "girl friends", those are the girls that I'll never session with, but we share many nice conversations, playing games, diner sth. I tried to pay them some tips before but most of them refused the money, so now I just offer some free meal (like in Oase), cigarette, beer occasionally;.

I've traveled to Bucarest to visit a certain girl, luckily she waited for me outside the airport, we had some great days together without involving money. Though things changed later it's another story;.

One girl also brought about the marriage topic to me from late last year to early this year, until I figured out she's not joking, or at least half joking half serious. I started to keep away from her and to see her less and less and now no more, for the pressure she gave me (she told this to her friends as well) and some other unexpected reasons. The interesting thing is that now I think a lot about her, even more than the time when I saw her regularly. Maybe it's guilty or something;.

I keep personal contact with some girls, some are interested to chat with, some bother me too much; one only send sticks, one ignore me for days then reply with a long long message. BTW I no longer talk with the one who only sends me moving sticks, because I find it too stupid and boring: with her I didn't know how to reply but sending some sticks back as well, then our conversation went non-stop like this;.

I'm not sure if there are more but these seem to be all I can recall for the moment.

Every man has his own stories, it's always great to share and hear.

[PussyLiccker]

Some girls tried the "and then you only go to the room with me and no other girl" on me. Failed.

HB.

Me neither. I think it's ridiculous a girl that's servicing multiple men requiring the guys to only go with her. I had this happen with a new girl at a club. I didn't understand why she got upset I went with her friend. 2nd session, she would not kiss the same, and say she was upset that I asked her for her friend. Another girl got upset for a reason I still can't fathom. It may have been due to me going with another girl, and perhaps she wanted me to only go with her.

[Faceless78]

Indeed, over the months I have spent thousands of euro on the girl and she does a genuinely good session for me doing all the naughty things I like but she does not like anal that much and only does to please me per her words. Indeed she does look in pain when my cock is in her arsehole, asking only that I hurry up and come rather than prolong the anal fucking. I wonder if this is what Sirioja means by rude sex?
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Now I feel lucky that the girl that I've spent thousands on this year only asked me for a new phone, she seems to be really kind in this comparison LOL.

[Capt Dan]

I never have or will let that happen. It's nice to know which favorite girls are working when and where. But that's it. Some girls tried the "and then you only go to the room with me and no other girl" on me. Failed.

HB.

I know that you are extremely well versed in the world of FKK / Sauna Clubs (more than most) and I am sure that you do indeed use these contacts to very good advantage as I try to do myself. I was merely pointing out to our fellow ISG members that such contacts can also be occasionally disadvantageous if not used wisely! As we say in the old country " the old dog for the hard road and leave the pup on the path". I was not trying to teach you something which I am sure you already knew. Travel well fellow member.