Phnom Penh

[AskeAske]

By the way, what is a "starfish".

A starfish is girl that has no talent or technique for sex. That is, she just lays there spreed out dead in the water, like a starfish.

[Member #4589]

So I've been here for about 2 weeks and so far I will say PP is not the premier location for P4P, at least for black guys. If you are looking for great options and good service then BKK is the best in SEA. KL is probably next and then Manila.

My scenario: it had been a long night on town and I had a want to find a companion for the night. As mentioned in my earlier posts, I like big butts. Really big butts. But this isn't BKK or KL so for the most part I'll have to settle for a Khmer. Girl.

Night started out nice. Went out to a few regular bars just to juice up. Got down to Pontoon around 1:30 am when the club was fully ablaze. Started off well, danced and made some good convo. Then I went in for the kill.

I went to the bar and looked at girls who seemed interested. Found some decent looking girls but nothing with that wow factor. Finally spotted 2 ladies who were willing for a 3 some. Damage, 60 a piece. Not bad, not bad. We agree and head back to my place. From the moment I got back I knew I picked the wrong deal.

The girls were very picky about minute things. One would suck while the other one watched. They were very disengaged and when it got time for the actual sex, they would just watch one as the other one looked. There wasn't much by the way of mutual fondling or touching. The head was lackluster and they always wanted to wipe by Johnson every single time. To top it all off I could not stroke properly because they complained I'm too large. This is not the first time.

After about 15 min of BS I decided enough was enough. I paid them both and accepted the night for what it is.

So unless I'm find myself an African lady or an attractive Khmer girl that is good with her service, I think I'll stick to BKK and the other hot spots in SEA.

This is my personal experience, I know many guys that have had better.

By the way, what is a "starfish".

[Rstoff]

I don't know why, but in Cambodia many girls are starfish. I have not spend much time in Thailand, so I don't know how it is there. In the Philiphine girls are much better. You ask the girls "are you a starfish". Brilliant. I will do that next time.

Yes It worked well with me. 69 bar on Street 136 certainly lived up to it's name. I remember I BF a cute 23 year old from there in March and she was awesome. Never shy, just GFE all night for $60. Unfortunately it was my last night in PP, otherwise I would have had a 2nd helping. I was a little surprise when she understood the meaning of the word "Starfish". A lot of the younger girls did not. I also noticed if you dress well (I had shirt and loose tie most nights) the girls seem to go crazy for me. Just shows women appreciate someone who makes the effort no matter where they in the World.

[AskeAske]

I was last in PP in March this year for just 10 days. I have always been a little embarrassed and coy when asking a BG all the important questions that needed addressing for a good night in my Hotel. E. G: DOGGY, BBBJ, GFE, DATY. So towards the end of my stay I just asked them if they were a " Starfish ". This approach was very successful, as all who said they were not Starfish lived up to my expectations in the sack. It was only the young 20/24 year old girls who seemed not to understand the concept of Starfish. Do you find this is the case with most girls or was I just a little unlucky? I will use the same approach when I come back to PP in November.

I don't know why, but in Cambodia many girls are starfish. I have not spend much time in Thailand, so I don't know how it is there. In the Philiphine girls are much better. You ask the girls "are you a starfish". Brilliant. I will do that next time.

[AskeAske]

I would also like to ask Aske Aske (I value your option). If a Hostess leaves the Bar of her own freewill with no explanation to the Bar owner, lets say in the Low season May. Can she return to the same Bar in the High season lets say November and continue her employment in the same Bar with no penalties. Or doe's the Bar owner say NO you owe $10 Bar fine for every day you where absent?. Will she have to find work in another Bar and explain why she left her last employer. Sorry for being naive but this is all new to me.

Hi Rstoff.

In most bars the girl can leave and come back after some time. If she only leave for maybe two days with no explanation she owe the bar the BF.

[AskeAske]

After.

A very small small price to pay. But I hope this helps someone. And it is a good lesson learned for me. I am just happy I was only carrying that amount. Sometimes I accidently end up with more in my wallet. Carry as little cash as you need. Rule # 2 or #3 I suppose. Anyhow. Chuck those assholes! I am going back for a $ 15 massage and I will bring in a Cambodian dollar and write gargle on my balls on it and lay it in my wallet for them to take and read. I'm a bit angered I got duped. Not really with the loss of $.

Hello Sport.

Many other have tried this. I had the same experience first time in PP. Never thrust a tuctuc-driver you don't know.

Here is from my report:

"I asked a tuktuk driver for a place with massage and bumbum. He drove me to a fishbowl with very young Vietnamese girls. I chose the one that seemed to be 18 years. Paid $ 25 upfront (stupid me).

She started the massage. It seemed a little strange and noisy lot. It was to her pimp could open the door and list in and steal my bag with money, passports etc. (stupid me). Fortunately I discovered him and got out of bed and after him and my bag. He dropped the bag and ran away. I went back to the room. Shortly after we started bombom. Very bad experience. She only wanted the missionaries, no BJ, etc. The $ 25 was lost and I went of without shoot. She was maybe trafficing girls. I will never go to a similar place. ".

And here is the answer from GooberMonger:

"Aske, sorry about your mishap. Your lucky you got your stuff back. A little advice when your out mongering; don't carry your passport, get photocopies made of it and your Visa and carry them as you will need them to rent a room in most cases. Don't carry your wallet and other I'd I. E. DL, birth certificate, SIN card. Don't wear any jewelry that you care about. Only carry enough cash that you can afford to lose or spend that day / night.

This doesn't just apply to Cambodia; it's a good rule of thumb for most countries. Even countries in Europe.

Happy mongering,

Cheers."

[IllusionHeart]

To Illusionheart.

That is why I have not be back since 2008 too expensive now you are better off go to AC, there is no reason to come back to this shit hole of a country to bang a girl for 50 usd st.

Fast eddie 48.

Thanks Eddie, your advice has always been great, really appreciate. I have trips lined up in October and December, plan to visit LOS and PH in those trips.

I just wanted to experience Cambodia once hence decided on this visit. By the look of it I hope I don't return only with images and thoughts of Angkor wat.

I am also not too sure on creating a backup plan (Snooky). If PP is not upto expectations snooky surely won't be better either.

I will continue to keep reading the FRs in the meantime.

Thanks mate.

[Blanquiceleste]

I was last in PP in March this year for just 10 days. I have always been a little embarrassed and coy when asking a BG all the important questions that needed addressing for a good night in my Hotel. E. G: DOGGY, BBBJ, GFE, DATY. So towards the end of my stay I just asked them if they were a " Starfish ". This approach was very successful, as all who said they were not Starfish lived up to my expectations in the sack. It was only the young 20/24 year old girls who seemed not to understand the concept of Starfish. Do you find this is the case with most girls or was I just a little unlucky? I will use the same approach when I come back to PP in November.

Interesting approach, worth trying. But I still believe the time test "interview" never fails. Take your time to talk to the lady and make sure you get a vibe going. If the chemistry ain't there, then there's no fun in the sack. Specially if you are bringing her back to your hotel room. Massage parlors are a different story. You take a look, hang on a smile and go all in. Its always a 50:50 chance that you get a lousy girl with more attitude than skills.

[SportMongr]

After. Reading some posts on vietnam my next destination. And recovering from my fog. I realized I was robbed. Luckily not by force, but a sneak attack from the shady massage parlor. As I stated before. This was a shady operation. A tuck tuck driver told me FS massage and it so happened to be right across from pontoon club. A few girls sitting out in front at a table. And a strange white and light up cafe 999 sign, I remember. Room open air entrance to the building behind them. I got bad vibes from the start. The door shuts. And I have to talk my way out. But dude insists. Choose girl, massage. My mistake. Asking how much. $15 " too good to, be true, " But I'm a newbie. Didn't realize the scam. I thought. This is very shady, I want to leave. ,but $15. So what the hell? I hope I can walk out of here uninjured.

When I enter the upstairs massage rooms. Girl insists that I undress and that I hang my clothes on the rack right next to the door. I know better, decline and fold up my pants and place them to the left of the bed. Thinking that I had a better eye on it there. Stupid thinking. I should have placed my pants right on the bed! I want to get right into the service. Girl is adamant about having me flip, over on my stomach to massage my neck etc. I agree. And since I have had drinks relax close my eyes and enjoy the massage. At some point she does the wacky wacky claps on your back. Probably the time when the little guy crawling on the floor going into my wallet lifted. For sure a $50 bill, probably at least 1-2 20's. And left me with 3 10 dollar bills and some Cambodian $. I call quits with the girl and she immediately storms out. At that point I got cock in hand and think. Uh oh, I'm about to get robbed. Had a sense someone was about to come in. So I went to grab my at least my $50'to hide in my sock. And I would give them the rest. At that point I realized I only had 30 bucks. WTF? At the time I was drunk, had not done the math or even thought about the parlor. As I walk out. I see no one. No, see you next time. Come again. ,did you enjoy. At the time I was just happy to walk out but was wondering what happened to my $50 bill. Now I did a bit of math. Before the night started had changed a $100. Had a $50. Spent $25 at rose bar.

Point of story is just to warn all about the parlor across from pontoon. And all others for that matter. I did have a few drinks but I was in no way out of my mind. I added up all my drinks at rosebar in my head ranged from lady drinks 3. 25 to my drinks 2. 50. Arrived at $23 before the lady with the calculator gave me the total. I most like like gave her $25 correct. The reason why I know I was robbed is because they took more than the $50 in the parlor. LOL, greedy bastards. If they only took the 50 I would have thought a mental error.

A very small small price to pay. But I hope this helps someone. And it is a good lesson learned for me. I am just happy I was only carrying that amount. Sometimes I accidently end up with more in my wallet. Carry as little cash as you need. Rule # 2 or #3 I suppose. Anyhow. Chuck those assholes! I am going back for a $ 15 massage and I will bring in a Cambodian dollar and write gargle on my balls on it and lay it in my wallet for them to take and read. I'm a bit angered I got duped. Not really with the loss of $.

[SportMongr]

I have been there several times this year and had some 10 $ girls many 15's and some 20's. That is where I draw the line. 20 $ st. I have great expectations too. BBBJ. Nice face- slim body. Very slim. Nice personality. 7.5 to 8.5. mostly between 20 and 35 year old. I find more than I can do. But no bar fines, only streetwalkers or freelancers. Like myself, always self employed my whole life.

When going to the different places timing is of the essence. Pontoon after midnight. Walkabout late afternoon. Days / evenings at Sorya mall or around what Phnom etc. Go to walkabout for example and find out from one of the expats there, you know the old western guys swilling beer. They will be happy to fill you in. I like the white cobra bar next to hod on 51st, ask the owner there, Pancho. Nice girls there too, no BF. .

If you have a ST now it can easily turn into LT since there are no prospects at the moment. This is also the time when many girls like to sleep in your room for free. No free sex though. But cheap. I give my girl 20 us every morning. For that I get her undivided attention. Almost, I have to say. Not sure what she does when I go through the bars. And again, performance has nothing to do with how much you pay. La Cyrcee, if you want to pay premium for guaranteed service. 40. - happy hunting.

Good info, thanks I checked out Pontoon bar fri. Last night. Arrived at like 1:30 am. The entire 51st. Scene Different from Thursday. At 10-11 pm. Yes, timing is everything. I found pontoon to be like a junior high party, " I remember when I had my first beer" lots of people. All acting super cool. Many westerner- backpacker. Vacationers mixed in. Guys on dates. Or just guys. Few "available" single ladies. The ones that are. Are shaded in the darkness, not looking worth the effort in such a loud chaotic silly environment. Ugh. I guess it might be ok if you are 25 and under and need to relive the days you turned 21.

Spent many hrs. On 104 in Rosebar getting smashed. By far the only place on 104 worth sticking around in. The lady DJ. Ie you tube song finder let my friend choose the music all night. So we ended up there A long time. A few nice lookers. All seemed to wear black dresses. 1 cute girl I liked gave me a nasty attitude as she was sitting next to me. " I'm on Facebook" as I tried to show interest. She ended up getting hammered I. The night as well. And never left the bar. She was not drinking only cokes. Most of the ladies have pro like attitudes. Did not want to explain to me the black dress phenomenon. I assume it means. I do not go or I need extra $ because I am a slight level above. Of course the uglies very friendly. And like 2 girls that were slightly above average. Let me know directly they were interested to leave. But no go. Did not want a 10 barfine, and negocios from 40-50. Plus my Johnson stops working after 6-7 beers.

After 104 on 51 stumbled into a massage parlor. $15 30 minutes. Shady and dirty. I was mentally preparing myself to be robbed as took the massage and was left in the room above and out of site. Luckily I only had like $30 left. So it would not have been a big deal. I had found out trying to hide my $50 bill in my sock. That I must have paid the rosebar tab of $23 with $20 and a $50 thinking I was leaving a $2 tip. With a 20 and a 5. Agh the price you pay for drinking to much. Didn't finish my massage. Had drank way too much beer.

In all PP interesting place. So far a bit too obscure, random, minimal, run of the mill. For my liking.

[Kniom]

to bang a girl for 50 usd st.

I agree with Islandboy 54.50 $ for ST is ridiculous. I was in PP during April / May and paid between 20 and 25 $ without negotiations.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Indeed not good news Uncle V. I am booked for mid August to PP. Decided to visit over Pattaya and AC. Hope i wont regret.

If you are joining in then am sure trip will become interesting and we can both go hunting for girls across the city.

To Illusionheart.

That is why I have not be back since 2008 too expensive now you are better off go to AC, there is no reason to come back to this shit hole of a country to bang a girl for 50 usd st.

Fast eddie 48.

[IllusionHeart]

Thanks for the post. This is not good news as I plan to spend a few days myself there next month. Please keep posting your experiences.

Good hunting!

Uncle-V.

Indeed not good news Uncle V. I am booked for mid August to PP. Decided to visit over Pattaya and AC. Hope i wont regret.

If you are joining in then am sure trip will become interesting and we can both go hunting for girls across the city.

[Forever69]

Fella's. Local's is this it? Did I head out too late? Is Cambodia land of the expensive hardened milfs? Or are these ladies overcarching me with thie $40-50 quotes. ? The $10 barfine seems legit.

Any advice greatly welcomed. I have 3 more nights to make this a good experience and not a waste. Happy hunting!

I have been there several times this year and had some 10 $ girls many 15's and some 20's. That is where I draw the line. 20 $ st. I have great expectations too. BBBJ. Nice face- slim body. Very slim. Nice personality. 7.5 to 8.5. mostly between 20 and 35 year old. I find more than I can do. But no bar fines, only streetwalkers or freelancers. Like myself, always self employed my whole life.

When going to the different places timing is of the essence. Pontoon after midnight. Walkabout late afternoon. Days / evenings at Sorya mall or around what Phnom etc. Go to walkabout for example and find out from one of the expats there, you know the old western guys swilling beer. They will be happy to fill you in. I like the white cobra bar next to hod on 51st, ask the owner there, Pancho. Nice girls there too, no BF. .

If you have a ST now it can easily turn into LT since there are no prospects at the moment. This is also the time when many girls like to sleep in your room for free. No free sex though. But cheap. I give my girl 20 us every morning. For that I get her undivided attention. Almost, I have to say. Not sure what she does when I go through the bars. And again, performance has nothing to do with how much you pay. La Cyrcee, if you want to pay premium for guaranteed service. 40. - happy hunting.

[Uncle Volodya]

After hearing many nice stories about PP etc. I arrived yesterday. Was expecting good stuff. Had a beer at scores bar and asked a local living here for 10 yrs. Where to go. Sorry I do not have much time to research on this site,barely enough time to post and read the latest few posts. His advice. With a smile "tons of bars" first go to street 51, more bars on 136 the best "my type" are on 104.

So I followed his plan, started at like 10:30 pm. Had a beer at Shanghai. Many average ladies there I did not get into any talks with them. Headed to Pontoon which is a disco. Hardly anyone in there. As I was leaving a few decent ladies were walking up but seemed to have a big hip-hop club style attitude as they walked in.

Went to 104. Now it's 11:30. 1st stop is rose bud pop in. It's dark many girls good music nice vibe. But didn't see anyone that caught my eye as special. Walked out and to the left was a younger lady spinner type. So she got me talking. $10 bar fine. I believe quoted me $50 for short time. And her friend inisisted that I need to get her and I a beer. I did the math. That is around $65 for St with in Cambodia (this girl had a baby too) I asked. That factors in. To the net worth.

Checked out a few other bars. All average ladies. The ones that were above average seemed to be hardened and not the sweet types I have heard were down here. And that I go for. To me $60-80 for a hardened vet in Cambodia seems like a bad deal. So, I saw a nice looking lady. She obviously a bit older 30 's. Mama as well, but pretty. Said $40? I was a bit tired. So forking over over 50 for a mild did not excite me.

Fella's. Local's is this it? Did I head out too late? Is Cambodia land of the expensive hardened milfs? Or are these ladies overcarching me with thie $40-50 quotes. ? The $10 barfine seems legit.

Any advice greatly welcomed. I have 3 more nights to make this a good experience and not a waste. Happy hunting!

Thanks for the post. This is not good news as I plan to spend a few days myself there next month. Please keep posting your experiences.

Good hunting!

Uncle-V.