German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[McAdonis]

Girls transfer a part of the money via WU. The bigger portion often is brought to Romania personally. Some girls change bigger amounts into 500 bills, roll then up, put them in a condom, shove it up their pussy and bring it home. I know a girl who did this with a large sum. Her pussy wasn't that big, but she managed well. LOL.

Will German banks change smaller denominations into 500 EUR notes without hassle? Do the girls have to show their passports for these transactions? At some point they will change the 500 EUR notes back into smaller denominations again or exchange for lei. Those 500 EUR bills would draw too much attention or arouse suspicion because most people associate them with criminal activity. The exchange must go through blacker markets, no?

The other question is where do they keep their money while they are on-shift? Some of these girls work 80 hours a week, and supposedly they share a flat with three other WGs. So there could be 20000+ EUR there sitting there. That makes them a target for opportunist criminals. Unless of course they have hired "security".

Doing the math, some have estimated that girls might make 100K per year and lets say they make 5 trips home a year. I am guessing they wire at most 10K via WU. That means each trip they are moving between 15-20K per trip. I guess that's manageable by themselves.

[Hessen Bub]

If a girl is not registered as a WG with the German tax authorities she will have to make the daily 25€ down payment, if she's German or not doesn't matter. If she does an income statement and her taxes the advance payments she has done will be taken off her tax debt. Most girls don't register.

Girls transfer a part of the money via WU. The bigger portion often is brought to Romania personally. Some girls change bigger amounts into 500€ bills, roll then up, put them in a condom, shove it up their pussy and bring it home. I know a girl who did this with a large sum. Her pussy wasn't that big, but she managed well. LOL.

HB.

[DrDoGood]

I happened to be present on one of the couch action days last summer. The girl I was with (who was not the designated couch-actioner for that day) told me that they only select known customers whom they are certain will cum, and whom they know would provide non-stop action. She ruled me out ever being selected as I am the slow GFE type who would put spectators to sleep!

On normal days, public blow jobs are common. They will even do it right next to you or in front of you. Public sex is less common and I have only seen it done on the basement couches or stools (doggie position). You can also do it in the basement room with the glass wall, where all others can see you and, if I heard correctly, can also request to join in.

Thanks for all the great input guys. I had almost forgotten about Bernd's. It's actually pretty close to what I'm looking for. Also just stumbled upon www.luder-lounge.de which looks really small and intimate. Will have to try that one out. Well, only so much you can figure out from the arm chair, sometimes you need to just go ahead and move to the, ehh, couch.

[TankTank123]

They still have Couch-Aktion-Tag. The last one was on April 10. (I was able to attend.) It didn't seem a lot different than an average day to me. If you were selected by one of the girls and agreed to the couch action, the club picked up the fee. (I wasn't selected, oh well) Looking back at their twitter feed, they have the day once or twice a year. Public sex at Bernds happens, if you're interested all you have to do is ask and you'll find a willing partner.

I happened to be present on one of the couch action days last summer. The girl I was with (who was not the designated couch-actioner for that day) told me that they only select known customers whom they are certain will cum, and whom they know would provide non-stop action. She ruled me out ever being selected as I am the slow GFE type who would put spectators to sleep!

On normal days, public blow jobs are common. They will even do it right next to you or in front of you. Public sex is less common and I have only seen it done on the basement couches or stools (doggie position). You can also do it in the basement room with the glass wall, where all others can see you and, if I heard correctly, can also request to join in.

[Boomer10]

Check the Bernds thread. It's a house. Literally with a basement, and little bar, and looks like a normal home inside. Awhile back, I've heard they have times when they promote public sex, and the session will be on the house. Not sure if it still happens. I think it was the most intimate atmosphere I've ever been, and can't Imagine getting anymore than that.

They still have Couch-Aktion-Tag. The last one was on April 10. (I was able to attend.) It didn't seem a lot different than an average day to me. If you were selected by one of the girls and agreed to the couch action, the club picked up the fee. (I wasn't selected, oh well) Looking back at their twitter feed, they have the day once or twice a year. Public sex at Bernds happens, if you're interested all you have to do is ask and you'll find a willing partner.

[PussyLiccker]

I like the small, more intimate FKK clubs. Especially where sex can be had in the open (I. E. Not only in private rooms) so the other girls and guests can watch from pretty close. It just turns me on somehow. Anyone have some recommendations?

I have tried Blue Note in Dusseldorf. It was pretty small but is now closed. Also, I once tried Eva's Club Tabulos in Mnchengladbach which was tiny. Just room for 6-8 people in couches around a coffee table. That size was perfect (although not into the sex without condom that was offered). This club closed a few years ago, so looking for alternatives. It could be partytreff clubs also, but I tend to prefer the FKKs. Anyone?

Check the Bernds thread. It's a house. Literally with a basement, and little bar, and looks like a normal home inside. Awhile back, I've heard they have times when they promote public sex, and the session will be on the house. Not sure if it still happens. I think it was the most intimate atmosphere I've ever been, and can't Imagine getting anymore than that.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Sounds like partytreff clubs and some of the AO clubs are more your style since they have plenty of public sex. Check out those threads / forums. Maybe a place like Totalclub Osnabruck.

As for public sex in FKK's it happens but not frequently.

He can fuck in the kino of any FKK, if the girl is willing, although the kino at Oase will be the most public of the ones that I am aware of.

[McAdonis]

I feel like I'd be a great money launderer. My only problem is that I don't have any illicit money to launder in the first place. First world problems I suppose.

Might come in handy if ever you need to dodge alimony payments to baby mommas. It's really about hiding money and under-reporting earnings.

McA,
Thanks for the advice. It did not occur to me that it could be a tax evasion scheme. What I was worried about was that she could perhaps be attempting to bypass a pimp, and I would then risk getting beaten up!

Well, I don't think we can completely rule out the fact that she was going behind her pimp's back with that proposition she made to you. It really depends--her "manager" may be an innocent boyfriend from the village back home. If that was the case, he probably would have welcomed your assistance. However, her "manager" may be someone whom she has a strictly business relationship with. The manager may be tapped into the criminal network that can get the money to Romania under the radar for a 10% commission. If that's the case, then you wiring the money for her would have cost the pimp 1000 EURO. Think an ass beating might have been justified in that case! Underreporting earnings isn't taken lightly, whether it be the taxman or the "manager" who is taking their cut.

Getting beaten up might only have been the short term concern. Best case scenario, authorities may come asking you questions. Worst case scenario, they prevent you from entering the country again--forcing you to prematurely retire from your FKK career.

So, is the 25 flat tax the only tax that non-Germans pay?

"Prostitution is legal in Germany but sex workers must pay income tax on their earnings like any other freelancer. ".

They are supposed to register with tax authorities, but they never do. My understanding is the 25 EUR flat tax was just the German authorities giving up. I mean these girls are constantly entering and leaving the country and some don't last long in the business at all. I don't think they have the manpower to chase these girls, especially when its hard to prove cash earnings.

http://www.thelocal.de/20121004/45363

I mean if the funds show up electronically somewhere to be significant enough, that is income that had to come from somewhere that the tax authorities would notice.

Thats the point, she would minimize the amount of electronic funds in her name. She aligns herself with a criminal organization. That criminal organization may have "legitimate businesses" in both Romania and Germany. So she gives 10000 EUR cash to a man in Frankfurt. And a week later, 9000 EUR cash is available for pick up in Romania. Or her unemployed pimp-boyfriend drives the money back to Romania every week.

[Banana Boi]

I like the small, more intimate FKK clubs. Especially where sex can be had in the open (I. E. Not only in private rooms) so the other girls and guests can watch from pretty close.

Sounds like partytreff clubs and some of the AO clubs are more your style since they have plenty of public sex. Check out those threads / forums. Maybe a place like Totalclub Osnabruck.

As for public sex in FKK's it happens but not frequently.

[UShobbyist]

I like the small, more intimate FKK clubs. Especially where sex can be had in the open (I. E. Not only in private rooms) so the other girls and guests can watch from pretty close. It just turns me on somehow. Anyone have some recommendations?

The swimming pool side BBBJ is quite popular in FKK Sharks right now. If you want to have FS in the open, you can choose one mattress near the outdoor bar of FKK Sharks. Have fun!

[DrDoGood]

I like the small, more intimate FKK clubs. Especially where sex can be had in the open (I. E. Not only in private rooms) so the other girls and guests can watch from pretty close. It just turns me on somehow. Anyone have some recommendations?

I have tried Blue Note in Dusseldorf. It was pretty small but is now closed. Also, I once tried Eva's Club Tabulos in Mönchengladbach which was tiny. Just room for 6-8 people in couches around a coffee table. That size was perfect (although not into the sex without condom that was offered). This club closed a few years ago, so looking for alternatives. It could be partytreff clubs also, but I tend to prefer the FKKs. Anyone?

[TankTank123]

I recently read an article that said that Greeks and Greek companies paid up hardly any taxes this year after Syriza took over. They should therefore top the list when the data is reported next year.

At the other end of the scale, I guess that Switzerland is so low because they officially allow taxation on wealthy residents to be legally mainly 'avoided', so no need for evasion.

[PussyLiccker]

Romania number #2 worst tax evasion offender, behind you guessed it Italy #1:

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...-budget-hard-1

Romania is high, but lots of sources show that Bulgaria is higher and there are many other countries that the shadow economy is greater than Italy. I suppose there are some correlations that can be drawn from it. Like country with most poverty.

http://www.econ.jku.at/members/Schne...EcEurope31.pdf

https://www.atkearney.com/financial-...ope-2013/10192

[PussyLiccker]

Something I was curious about. So, I have read that the tax for the girls are 25 Euros a day at certain places. I understand that the money the girls make are cash so it's not booked, unless perhaps some places do. So, is the 25 flat tax the only tax that non-Germans pay? I mean if the funds show up electronically somewhere to be significant enough, that is income that had to come from somewhere that the tax authorities would notice. If a girl for example makes 600 per day, and flat tax is 25, that's 4% tax she is paying. So, I'm guessing that's where the laundering comes in. If the girl has to launder her money, that means they are required to pay additional percentage of their income, correct? So that means, Ro has to pay additional if they hit a certain threshold of income after the flat tax, no? So this doesn't only apply to German WGs?

I have read that Ro pay fixed, and Germans are required to pay addtional on top of 25. For the girls of German nationality, how are the additional tax figured on top of the 25?

[UltraHappy]

McA,
Thanks for the advice. It did not occur to me that it could be a tax evasion scheme. What I was worried about was that she could perhaps be attempting to bypass a pimp, and I would then risk getting beaten up!

It's likely that the tax folks blocked her ability to send cash via Western Union after too many transfers without any taxes showing from her. It is not uncommon for girls to look for other people to help send their money home since their name is blocked or flagged by the tax folks. Likely not trying to bypass a pimp. If that were the problem, she could just go to Western Union and wire the money herself.

Interesting insights.

"If they want to risk the banking system, money launderers break up large amounts of cash and enlist different people to make deposits below 10,000 Euro the threshold for any entities receiving money to report a transaction. This is called 'smurfing'. However, if you're a criminal thinking of using this technique, be warned. The 10,000 Euro limit is not an absolute. Investigators can check repeat amounts under this figure if they have been made several times using the same bank account. ".

Despite that rule, "for years, Hong Kong's most prolific money launderer was a teenager named Luo Juncheng, who originally opened a Bank of China account with a $500 deposit. During the next eight months, he made nearly 5,000 deposits, and more than 3,500 withdrawals electronically, moving $1. 67 billion offshore before attracting notice. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison in 2013 bad news for the smurf, and his clients.

Other smurfs come to attention of authorities through their flamboyant lifestyles. In March, another Hong Kong resident, Carson Yeung, was sentenced to six years for laundering $91.27 million through his bank accounts between 2001 and 2007. A former hairdresser who'the since bought the UK's Birmingham City football team, he claimed he had accumulated hundreds of millions of dollars in profits from stock trades, a hair salon, and gambling. ".

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/begin...dering-2014-10.

Perhaps the banking system has gotten more sophisticated since those days long past in 2013? On the other hand, I doubt the girls are transferring amounts anywhere close to 91 million dollars or 1. 67 BILLION dollars.

I feel like I'd be a great money launderer. My only problem is that I don't have any illicit money to launder in the first place. First world problems I suppose.