Kyiv

[Sorbonne]

Just had sex with a mamba girl. Damage: 1000 UAH for 2 hours sex, BBBJ, cunilingus. 69 was foreseen, but she didn't want it. The general service was good, so she gets a 30 % tip, what she was also aware before the meeting and so try to perform well. Not a 10, not a top notch girl, but quite pretty, around 22, and she knew how to take care of me. It might be the possibility to get a good tip, that makes her giving me a good service. She knew that I could give her only 1000 UAH.

Of course quite many mambas girls start at 150 $ for 1 hour or 2 hours. Do they look really better? Will they service be ok? Not sure. The best is to start low and not to agree with these prices similar to Germany. What's the point to come to Ukraine, if you pay nearly the same as in Germany! In Germany for 100 Euros, you can have one hour sex with a pretty girl, either private or brothels.

Always set up with the girls if you want a BBBJ, 69 and cunilingus. So it's easier then to argue and to get what you want and not to be ripped off. Some girls don't want to do BBBJ, only with condoms. Some don't like cunilingus.

About the apartments around Basseina, you usually get sex and only sex. If you want BBBJ, you will have to pay something more. You can sometimes get a Cunilingus for free and sometimes they don't want even if you pay for that. It really depends on the girls, they decide want they want to do.

Why would any girls not want cunnilingus? I have been wondering if it's because they do not want us to look at their pussy carefully because they have some sort of disease. Has anybody thought about this?

[Mario Veneto]

My second day in Kiev:

It's my first time in Kiev and I didn't know it's such an awesome city. Great hotels, great food for so little money.

The weather is hot: 30 see and it's unbelievable to see such an important concentration of pretty girls in one city.

The country and his economy has suffered a lot. I was told that one year ago 10 grivna=1 $ today 20 grivna =1 $.

The monthly salary of a freshly graduated biologist with master degree is 150 $ per month!

In these conditions I am not surprised by the scams.

I called a couple of girls from the relax portal. Most of them don't speak English and are available after 6 pm.

Regarding the pictures they all admitted that the pictures are not real and there are 'typical photos'.

In Poland I had very bad experience with odloty. Pl and all fake pictures so I preferred not to take the risk.

Instead I am working on non pros I met on Tinder. They aren't the youngest but seem to be curious meeting me.

I will keep you posted.

[AColonizer]

Contact me by PM.

Hi.

I am in Kiev and found out a website called relaxportal. Biz which has pro and non pros starting from 400 UAH (20 $).

Has anyone had any experience with this website?

Thanks.

Mario.

[Limarian]

I recently had a protracted correspondence with a girl on Ladadate which came to nothing after much expense (although I must say that Ladadate were very good in refunding all the money I had paid them for sending letters and getting the girls contact details. I had explained to the girl my desire to be a Sugar Daddy and after a bit of exciting to and frying she had sort of agreed to try it out, but when it came to phoning, the info. Given did not connect. Either this was a case of cold feet or you can draw your own conclusions. I am now trying Russian Women Personals. Which is very costly, although several of the young ladies seem, after some polite inquiries, to be interested in exploring my proposal and I am wondering if others have been down this route and have experiences to share.

[Reallywildone]

Just arrived in Kiev today. Am staying at a decent place near Holosiivska park.

Had contacted several women on a site called TravelGirls before (I found Mamba far too hit and miss). Some of the women were pros, some semi-pros. Made contact with them again on arrival. One suggested a friend of hers, who turned up on time at the agreed spot outside my apart hotel. It was the girl in the photos alright. So far, so good. We had agreed $150 for the whole night.

The girl in question, Alina, had a stunning figure, and she is also a gymnast (works in a circus). The BBBJ was phenomenal, with CIM (went to the bathroom to spit discreetly). But then the ripoff scheme started. I went out for a minute, and when I came back, she was crying; apparently her sister had some kind of altercation with her boyfriend and had to be taken to hospital etc. I smelled a rat, and waited patiently just being supportive. Finally she said she wanted to go, and that she'd be back in a couple of hours. I said "Okay, but give me some of the money back. If you come back as promised, I'll give it to you again". Long story short: she cried, said she wanted to call the police, pretended to be angry, opened the window saying she'd jump, etc. I locked her in the room and went to speak with the apartment owner. He said this is quite common, but he could not do anything really as the police would be no help. So I went back to the room, talked some sense into her and said I wanted to see her again, take her travelling etc, so she returned $50 (unhappily) saying she'd come back later. I suspected she might not, and she hasn't. So far. So I ended up spending $100 for an hour and half, and though its much more than what the forum experts suggested of $100 or so for the night, at least I got something for it! Shall be more careful in the future, and make it clear even before meeting up that I will only pay half upfront and half in the morning. Took a picture of her in the buff (with her permission of course). Just look at that body!

Thanks to this forum, I was already aware of what rates to pay, rather than the $300 to $400 girls tried to demand until I said I already knew $100 was a very good price for a day, and $400 for a week. That brings them down to reasonable prices.

One sensible precaution I took was that I booked another separate room for my fun (no problem at $20! All my money and valuables were in the other room, some locked away, some hidden, etc. The 'fun' room had absolutely nothing of value, and I also kept just a few extra UAH on my person, in case she decided to rifle through my clothes while I was in the bathroom etc.

So, my advice: enjoy, but also be careful.

[Volpone]

Just had sex with a mamba girl. Damage: 1000 UAH for 2 hours sex, BBBJ, cunilingus. 69 was foreseen, but she didn't want it. The general service was good, so she gets a 30 % tip, what she was also aware before the meeting and so try to perform well. Not a 10, not a top notch girl, but quite pretty, around 22, and she knew how to take care of me. It might be the possibility to get a good tip, that makes her giving me a good service. She knew that I could give her only 1000 UAH.

Of course quite many mambas girls start at 150 $ for 1 hour or 2 hours. Do they look really better? Will they service be ok? Not sure. The best is to start low and not to agree with these prices similar to Germany. What's the point to come to Ukraine, if you pay nearly the same as in Germany! In Germany for 100 Euros, you can have one hour sex with a pretty girl, either private or brothels.

Always set up with the girls if you want a BBBJ, 69 and cunilingus. So it's easier then to argue and to get what you want and not to be ripped off. Some girls don't want to do BBBJ, only with condoms. Some don't like cunilingus.

About the apartments around Basseina, you usually get sex and only sex. If you want BBBJ, you will have to pay something more. You can sometimes get a Cunilingus for free and sometimes they don't want even if you pay for that. It really depends on the girls, they decide want they want to do.

[Harry Hardman]

OK gentlemen I stayed in Kiev for a few weeks and here is a short summary from the experience I got.

-Apartments (Brothels).

About 3 days in my vacation I called up another ISG member and he gave me the contact details for a guy named Andrei. I called Andrei and what he does is set up tours for us Mongers. I met with Andrei and he took me to an apartment. I sat on the couch in the living room, waited for a minute and six ladies came out wearing only their bra and panties. Andrie told me I just choose which one I like and I could take her back to my apartment or do the deed in the bedroom next door. He also gave me the option of going to another apartment to look at some more ladies. The price range in the apartment I was in at the time was at 800-1200 Grivna. Now there are other apartments with different pricing depending on the "quality" of the girls. I visited a place that had a price range like 1400-2000. Andrei also mentioned that there are apartments with prices lower than 800 but the girls were usually older and a little bit chubby. I took his word for it and didn't visit any of those places. I ended up scheduling tours with Andrei many times and even repeated seeing one of the girls. Now I also should mention that there is a possibility that you could get a girl that might end up liking you. I got one that gave me her facebook and wanted to meet me when she wasn't working. But I didn't have time for that so that never happened.

Great report!

What kind of sex were in these apartments? Was everything done with condoms in these aparments? Do you pay extra for BBBJ, CIM, COF, etc? Are these apartments in the center around Kreschatik?

[JGomez90]

OK gentlemen I stayed in Kiev for a few weeks and here is a short summary from the experience I got.

-Mamba.

10 days before visiting Kiev for my first time I started using Mamba just as some of the members suggested. I got as many contacts as I could and made a spreadsheet to separate the pros from the non-pros.

-Pros. On the first night in Kiev I called one of the pros from Mamba up to my room. She was charging $50/ hour and she looked pretty good in her photo. Unfortunately when she came to my room she didn't look anything like the picture. Needless to say I took her anyways. On my second night I did the same thing but with another pro from mamba. Well let's just say my experience was a repeat. A few days later I decided to give mamba one more shot so I called up another pro to my room that was charging $60 for an hour. She came to my room and yes she was the person in the photo. The only bad thing was that she was a lot heavier than her photos let on. I gave her 50 Grivna and sent her on her way.

-Non Pros. I had a list of about 8 non-pros that agreed to meet me once I was in Kiev. About half of them flaked on me when I got there. Suddenly some of them were too busy, had gone out of town, or were concerned about the language barrier. Nonetheless I still had a few that I met up with. I went out with 4 different women on 4 different days. The dates went well but I just couldn't get anything to happen.

-Apartments (Brothels).

About 3 days in my vacation I called up another ISG member and he gave me the contact details for a guy named Andrei. I called Andrei and what he does is set up tours for us Mongers. I met with Andrei and he took me to an apartment. I sat on the couch in the living room, waited for a minute and six ladies came out wearing only their bra and panties. Andrie told me I just choose which one I like and I could take her back to my apartment or do the deed in the bedroom next door. He also gave me the option of going to another apartment to look at some more ladies. The price range in the apartment I was in at the time was at 800-1200 Grivna. Now there are other apartments with different pricing depending on the "quality" of the girls. I visited a place that had a price range like 1400-2000. Andrei also mentioned that there are apartments with prices lower than 800 but the girls were usually older and a little bit chubby. I took his word for it and didn't visit any of those places. I ended up scheduling tours with Andrei many times and even repeated seeing one of the girls. Now I also should mention that there is a possibility that you could get a girl that might end up liking you. I got one that gave me her facebook and wanted to meet me when she wasn't working. But I didn't have time for that so that never happened.

-Strip Clubs.

I visited club Rio but the prices there were a lot more than what the apartments or Mamba had to offer. They charge 150 $ per hour and you have to take for a minimum of 2 hours. The women of Rio are beautiful, sexy, etc. I imagine you could see them on a magazine or music video. I ended up taking a beautiful red head with green eyes from Rio for a couple hours.

-Parties.

I met up with a fellow ISG member and we went to a boat party on the river. I ended up getting a few numbers and a girlfriend out of the experience.

All in all I had a pretty good experience in Kiev and will probably come back to visit soon. If you have any questions please ask.

[Harry Hardman]

If its the same girl I posted about, you would be a fool to meet her and worse if you go where she wants to go. That's what she did to me. If it's another girl, its not the end of the world but be prepared for her to take you to a very expensive place and run up a ridiculous bill.

Thanks for the advice.

I don't think it's the same girl; she calls herself Irina and is a blond.

Don't worry my big head is doing most thinking these days. I have plenty of time.

[Mario Veneto]

Hi.

I am in Kiev and found out a website called relaxportal. Biz which has pro and non pros starting from 400 UAH (20 $).

Has anyone had any experience with this website?

Thanks.

Mario.

[Gopnik]

What if I want to marry one and bring her back to Miami? I'm 50 by the way, but have a good job as a dentist and keep in decent shape.

Man,

People aren't begging to move to the West like in the 1990's. That said, yes, you can find plenty of attractive women looking for a successful man to take care of them and move abroad. However, it's not going to be a university aged woman unless you are rich and are ready to be a walking ATM. Your best bet is to find an early 30-year old. Believe me, there are plenty of good looking women that age here in Kyiv. I see them everyday.

Someone suggested that you sit at a McDonald's and flash a 50 dollar bill to get girls attention. That is a dangerous proposition as not only will girls see it, but so will men and some of them will consider how to separate you from it by any means necessary.

[Gopnik]

So how does Kiev work? Is it most common to buy off the street, this "sponsoring" thing or does it have brothels and / or websites I can check?

What you're asking has been covered ad nauseam on this message board. Go back and read what others have written.

[Gopnik]

In the following conversation the girl was eager to meet now and she said: "I can call and pick up you", it sounds like last part of your post. Does it sound like a warning? Any thoughts?

And is the premier palace hotel, a tourist trap or something?

Me.

Hi, When do you have free time to meet?

Girl.

I have free time now.

Have 3 hours free.

Tomorrow fly to holiday.

Girl..

If its the same girl I posted about, you would be a fool to meet her and worse if you go where she wants to go. That's what she did to me. If it's another girl, its not the end of the world but be prepared for her to take you to a very expensive place and run up a ridiculous bill.

[Harry Hardman]

Premier palace is in the upper echelons regarding price.

So it sounds more and more like a trap.

Thanks.

[Harry Hardman]

So it sounds like I may have to bust a few heads while I search for love in Kiev. Bring it on!

But how will girls react to a well off American visitor? Won't there be that much more curiosity or desperation?

Are there much fewer Western men around compared to two years ago?

You'll be a walking ATM. RTTF a good while back.

There's no curiosity because they've seen it all.