Makati

[MrWoolyBooly]

Venues: Alejandra Hotel, Zobel Roxas & Eurotel, Arnaiz.

1st: GF. Amazing girl who ranges from unstoppably horny to dead fish on ice. She claims all sorts of things influence the schedule, but to me it seems random. Hence, need to have other outlets.

2nd: Miss CP - 28 from Cavite. Originally met long ago in FC, chatted up in Skype. Tiny (4-10? Nice boobs for her thin frame. No way to tell she has two kids. In Skype had been reluctant to give more than a peek at the boobs, she claims because of the crowded house conditions. Of course that's an excuse. In person, though, she met me at the WalterMart across from Eurotel Makati and we proceeded directly to my room. Made the usual nonsense small talk. Supercute, perfect for shorty-lovers (not me), and willing to do anything I wanted (I don't ask for anal). Gave her 1. 5 k and she was very happy. Much more a struggling single mom looking for a discrete helpful guy than a P4 P. Decent BJ, tried her best in cowgirl, but her dimunitive legs didn't give her good range of motion. Flipped her on her back and finished with a bang. Unfortunately, I had so many either unavailable at short notice or unreliable to show up on time or at all, I had double booked Miss CP with Miss JP (next). Veterans will know Miss CP's type: kids, no prospects, will grasp at any chance. She'd be a great low-maintenance FWB or kabet / mistress for those in the market.

3rd: Miss JP - 20 from Caloocan. My phone was beeping messages non-stop during baby-making practice with Miss CP, because Miss JP was literally only 30 minutes behind her. It's kinda awkward to answer texts during sex, but I would recommend the BJ (if she has long hair) or reverse cowgirl positions as the most conducive. After finishing with Miss CP, told her all the texts were from the office needing me urgently. Got her rinsed, dressed, and out. As she crossed the street to WalterMart, I saw Miss JP already seated inside Starbucks. Had to wait at least until Miss CP rounded a corner, than met miss JP. We went up to my room literally three minutes after Miss CP had left. The hotel dudes were clearly impressed with the fast turnaround. Miss JP herself was no beauty. 5-3, average to below-average face, those small boobs that seem undeveloped but have grown as much as they ever will, nice tight body in all other regards, long hair. Started with the nonsense small talk, then she gave an impressive BJ, especially considering how I had popped just minutes ago. Top 10 BJ skills I've encountered. After that, cowgirl, then mish, then an impressive (for me, not for Skogis) 3rd pop of the day. She was the most naturally wet girl I've encountered. That was cool. Warning: Just reporting the words spoken, not to be taken as true. She told me her story of how she had a BF (aka sugar daddy) Norwegian guy renting a condo for her in CC for almost a year. The Norwegian dude started flirting or banging her classmate, then they broke up. Supposedly Norwegian guy is now badmouthing her to other potential sugar daddies. In the meantime she says she's in a "fake" fb relationship with an Australian guy. Blah blah blah, whatever. She got me off minutes after my second pop of the day, she's good in my book. Moreover, she was fine with any pics and videos I wanted to take asking only that I email them to her. I am the world's worst photographer and even worse when in a hornyfog. If I do post any, expectations for quality should be low. Miss JP went with me to the airport but stayed in the taxi and went her own way from there. I get the sense she'd like a similar sugar-daddy relationship that she had before. Interested contributing members, PM for details.

Editorial notes: In my last two trips to Metro Manila, I've met or heard of four Norwegian guys spreading their Norwegian guy love among the Pinays. Isn't the population of Norway tiny and very far away? Don't the lovely ladies in Norway notice how many of the guys are missing?

[Ms Account]

Oil is down, commodities are down and now also stock markets are down. Burgos street prices should be next.

Background. I used to frequent Burgos in the 2007-2009 time frame. I don't remember the prices from back then. But I distinctly remembering that I felt the quality wasn't worth the price and sort of lost interest. In recent times (2014 to now) I have been visiting Philippines more regularly and generally spend 2-3 days on Burgos each trip. This FR is recent experiences on Burgos and understanding of recent prices on Burgos.

The recent addition of Kojax / HotSpot / Plan be (all under same set of owners opened 2013?) has introduced new price competitiveness on Burgos. Barfine (BF) = 2600 and ladies drink (LD) = 300. Be careful in Kojax because by default they will charge you for a more expensive LD at 400 but state you only want the 300 LD. Although there was a recent bad report on Kojax, I think the layout (easy to see most girls), the enthusiasm of the dancing (choreographed rather than lazy shuffling at most bars) and the quality of the girls combined with reasonable prices makes Kojax my preferred bar on Burgos and is 1st stop for the night. Hot Spot and Plan be don't have as good a layout but at reasonable prices also have reasonable quality girls. In the past year I would have BF'd 5-6 times from Kojax. My preferred mode of operation now is to go to Kojax at 9 pm after it first opens and if I find someone I like, BF straight away and leave the night at that. In the past I tend to trawl many bars looking for the perfect BF and end up drinking too much.

Stardust has always been a favourite of mine. The show is interesting to watch and prices are quite reasonable (BF=2500 LD=300). Layout is quite good and easy to see girls although generally I would say less lookers in Stardust than Kojax.

Jools is a strange place. I always thought it was no BF but recently girls are telling me some will BF for 3500 with LD=350. The show is very high quality here but in general the line up girls I would put lower quality looks than other bars. Generally I will always visit once each trip to watch the show.

There is a strange little bar in the lane way next to Stardust called CatHouse. They tell me it was the original bar on Burgos and is 35 years old. Very cheap beer prices (98 pesos). No official BF policy but is up to girl (although most girls are plain) and they have naughty area where BJ was quoted at 1500. More a fun place to have some cheap drinks and play pool.

I have not spent a lot of time in Bottoms Up but more recently I have frequented there. Girls in BU claim it is the most upmarket bar on Burgos. Always busy and with nearly topless uniform and quite good looking girls, I would not dispute the most upmarket bar on Burgos claim. Expensive BF=3900 and LD=390. Although it is a big bar, I don't think it is layed out very well and secondly the enthusiasm of the dancing is poor.

There is 7 bars (or is it 9?) owned by the same set of owners that are generally totally over priced (Ivory, Jungle, Montana, Fridays, Papillion, Hollywood, Dimples, ?) at LD=390, BF=3900. I think Ivory as a larger bar could justify that pricing model but most of the others are small dingy bars with low quality girls. I generally won't even go into these bars now as I refuse to pay their pricing model.

I went to String in April and they were still LD=390, BF=3900. I argued with the mamasan they were overpriced and needed to drop their prices. Well I won't claim it was my influence but when I went there last week I found they had dropped their prices to BF=3000 LD =300. I thought the quality of the girls was ok and asked for one girl to sit with me but she refused for unknown reasons. The enthusiasm of the dancing here is atrocious (talking together, reviewing their phones) and the manager really needs to put some discipline back into this place. But the reduction in price is the trend I am proposing will be the next main theme on Burgos pricing.

Went to Moulin Rouge quite late (3. 00 am) after already BFing at Kojax so was not highly motivated for any further BF. Normal prices are LD=390, BF=3900. The mamasan dropped the price all the way down to 2500 BF. Maybe just because it was late.

Visited a bar called Lucky Charm upstairs. Fairly downmarket bar in layout. Empty. But some reasonable looking girls. But prices are out of whack for the quality of the bar LD=390, BF=3900. I offered to buy two LD's but would only pay 300 but manager refused. So I walked. Talking to waitress though, she said 2 years ago their prices were 2000 BF and 200 LD and they raised them to the current prices. She was recommending to the management to drop the prices but the owner was refusing.

I have been to many of the other bars. Shampoo, Tickles, High Heels, Coyote, Rogues but not enough to comment or remember the pricing.

Can anyone enlighten me on how the prices on Burgos got so out of whack? How did the owners of Lucky Charm think they could effectively double prices a few years back? How long has the insane pricing of LD=390, BF=3900 existed for most of these small dingy poor quality girls bars like Papillion etc?

In summary, for some reason I am happier with the quality of the girls I find on Burgos now compared back to 2007-2009. But I propose Burgos prices will start falling over the next six months. The trend is there (pioneered by Kojax / Hotspot / PlanB) and the GFC2 over the next year will hit Burgos hard. I just hope most can stay open. The feedback from girls in a lot of the smaller bars (and one owner I talked to) was that customer traffic has dropped. Maybe Burgos is a better predictor of the global economy than most economic statistics.

[Mbsl65]

Came from Davao by Air Asia. Terminal 4 landing. Terminal 4 reminded me that Philippines is a real 3rd world country. Everything gets sniffed by a dog against to drug smuggling since Davao is the place drugs come from.

Taxi ride was a tourist trap. No one in Manila almost uses taxi meters and ask ridiculous amounts. This one no different 300 p was the cost. I will be staying at New World Hotel executive floor. Since amenities are included, almost the same because for a regular room. Check-in was ok. I slept 3 hours to regain the strength after Davao City mongering.

I exchanged some messages with 27 years old mother of two. She is a stunning beauty. I had a relationship with her sister. She confided me about her falling relationship with her Chinese Singaporean husband and lack of intimacy. Apparently her sister was sharing our secrets with her and she wanted to try out with me too. But it is a little bit too risky she is always with some politicians on her Facebook pictures. I think it is something I may need to be careful about.

I went for a walk and ended up at Century City. They have a nice BBQ area and out door live band. After spending little time I went toTreeHouse Tavern. The place was fairly busy in a Thursday night packed with young Filipinos. Lots of fairly nice dressed ladies. I drunk my mango shake by observing the crowd. I was not getting too much interest but I was enjoying nice wiggling girls.

Later went to Bourgos St and listened live band at Best Western Hotel lounge. Some freelancers were hanging around. Band was so and so.

Later I went to Greenbelt 3 around 11 pm and by passed the Havana which had a big crowd of indians, Arabs and high mileage freelancers.

My choice of the bar is Spicy Fingers where they have a nice live venue with freelancers and locals. Later in the evening I hooked up with a stunning 23 yrs old along her 19 old sister who were celebrating their new jobs.

We later went to Palladium Disco and it was closed. Than we took a cab to Gramercy. By the time we arrived it was closed too (around 3 am) . However we ended up in Time disco on Makati Avenue on a walking distance. Cover charge 200 p / person and it was ok. Lots of freelancers. Dark and smokey with a rave type beats. I smelled the pot and apparently they deal it around. So, it was not a good sign.

We were tired and called the night off. I sent then to home. I am sure girls will be a great company and friends in Makati trips.

I know tonight will be a good one since my stunning chick from Cebu will be arriving. I met her on an MO2 club outing in Cebu. (It is another story).

P.S.: I wrote this FR on Evernote and copied here. Evernote is a great note taking program to do FR.

[OneIpole]

Had my first FL from Badoo. Turned down by one because she wanted more than 2 k. But than got another one no issue. Turned out really well. Cute girl with a great ass. She was a bit inexperienced and insisted she does not due this much, maybe I believe her. BJ skills were not great but good. Nice legs and ass though. Great fuck and she fought it a bit but loved a finger in her ass while I fucked her, she came hard. Then acted like she didn't like the finger in her ass- I told her don't lie its ok! So far so good. Have a ton of contacts but just need to weed through them. I think its a OK site but girls are getting a bit smarter. They want more than 2 k for short time, but it also depends on how long they have been around. The ones who have been around know they can get a bit more. Newer ones are still spreading them for a bit cheaper.

[CallSign Papa]

I maybe wrong, but I just don't think there are FLs in Valkyrie, it's definitely a club full of cute young things, but none that are obviously on the prowl, still worth a visit though.

The price for freelancers in Makati around 1. 5-6 K but that depends on where you are in Makati (Burgos vs Greenbelt) who you are and what you are to the girl.

[Dark Knight1]

The price for freelancers in Makati around 1. 5-6 K but that depends on where you are in Makati (Burgos vs Greenbelt) who you are and what you are to the girl.

[Member #4387]

Hi Skogis. You seem to have a lot of experience with Makati. I am visiting next week. I don't want to over pay the freelancers. How much have you normally been quoted at Valkyrie and Gramercy? Plus any other places you can think of.

Never been quoted any prices at these locations. Only got girls through normal mechanisms (which is not going for FL girls). Valkyrie I doubt have any but Gramercy I know have a few of duty BG. I guess 3 to 5000 piso would get you somewhere. Ask others for FLs as I don't do them anymore.

[Butter69]

Valkyrie and Gramercy is top notch to my likings.
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Hi Skogis. You seem to have a lot of experience with Makati. I am visiting next week. I don't want to over pay the freelancers. How much have you normally been quoted at Valkyrie and Gramercy? Plus any other places you can think of.

[OneIpole]

Great summary Callsign of venues worth hitting up for those enjoying the clubbing scene. Valkyrie and Gramercy is now my prefered choices as I in so e ways have run tired from Prive. Some good choices and my last visit was there in May I think. I brought a girl so I did not screen the crowd closely except I saw some known faces and atleast one obvious workinggirl (atleast she was before called Katethegreat). Luckely or whatever you call it I did her many years ago before she became to proffesional. Still we nod eachother, hehe. Truth to be told she is probably more what you can call on the look for a sugardaddy these days.

Valkyrie and Gramercy is top notch to my likings. I did a Valkyrie pick up last month and here I haven't spotted girls labeled as workinggirls. Lines beeing blurred and all that taken into consideration. Great place and I will visit the pool club on a later occation. (thanks Huts for information). Just need a girl who I will be sure can take in the more Hi so vibe as a champ so I will look a bit into my fleet but I guess I have a few regulars who will fit right in (and maybe allready been there?

Gramercy have allways treated me kindly and loads of fun can be had there. You have obviously some working crowd going together in large groups. If you not into BG's be aware I have from good intel some can come from those bars and into mention place after been working for a while. If no success at Gramercy they can later be met at TIME. There are also many ordinary girls present here. How to screen them out I mostly use the my experience as working girls have their own way of "aggressivly" use their eyes looking for prey. Normal girls will be more shy.

The two mentioned clubs at City of Dreams I've only visited twice while staying at the hotel myself. Only brought one girl but before her I was quoted both 3 and 4 thousands from some obvious FL girls (1 in each place). The girl I finaly chose was from Pangaea. Yes many groups of friends there but still available girls in those groups for pick up. But not staying at one of the 3 hotels in City of Dreams I would not bother to visit them places.

All places mentioned have some sort of dress code. So shorts and flip flops seems not the way to go. Atleast I never saw someone in such wear and I never did myself so normal clothing and a jeans I guess is the way to go.

Great places and a nice change from "basic" girls- nice to see hot girls dressed up once in a while. Expensive places but its a lot of fun. Some super hot girls and more fun to just work on your pickup skills.

[OneIpole]

I hope it hasnt closed, I have very fond memories of the place. Jan 1st, 2000 after all the Y2 K nonsense (remember that?) I went there. I was the only guy in the place. Many drinks were purchased and many ladies lost their clothes that night and I committed the cardinal sin of joining the ladies on stage for a few songs. Dad dancing with the cuties. LOL.

They used to have two wonderful VIP rooms upstairs where for 5 drinks anything and everything could occur.

Was out drinking with a mate there in 2002. Was his birthday at midnight so we went to VIP room with 5 ladies, and someone ordered pizza. The pizza delivery guy came up to the VIP room and was very shocked to see 2 guys and 5 naked ladies. Mouth open sort of shocked.

Its shitsville now. The stupid guy who runs it has made so many enemies no one can stand him, he is a real fuckhead! Most locals won't go there anymore and I hear its going down the tubes. The word its for sale, but could not get a real number from anyone. They need new management bad.

[OneIpole]

Treehouse last night in A. Venue. Its the Saturday Squad party - (like Frisky Friday at H&J). They are having it every sat now for a while I guess. Fucking awesome, super hot girls and gorgeous freelancers. Top of the line shit. I was surprise to have a great time and talk to some hot girls. The FL were really sexy and the atmosphere great- good DJ-smoking hot Girl Squad chicks and great prices. I recommend it. Plus TIME bar and ROYAL cud are across the street. Also nice spot for FL. I'm burnt on burgous and only doing FL, s now. Working the date sites and such. I'm done paying stupid bar-fines and getting ripped off on drinks for a while. Very easy to get hot hook ups for 2,000 P with FL's through dating site. End up finding out most of them work at the bar anyways.

[Squalid]

Hope I don't get the Slippery treatment, LOL.

Anyone know if Stardust show bar Makati is closed, out of business?

Thanks.

I was in Stardust almost every night during my stay in Makati from August 14 to August 18. In this period the bar was open.

I like to bring there the girls I have barfined from other bar, to see the shows, drink some more and to be massaged.

[FreebieFan]

Hope I don't get the Slippery treatment, LOL.

Anyone know if Stardust show bar Makati is closed, out of business?

Thanks.

I hope it hasnt closed, I have very fond memories of the place. Jan 1st, 2000 after all the Y2 K nonsense (remember that?) I went there. I was the only guy in the place. Many drinks were purchased and many ladies lost their clothes that night and I committed the cardinal sin of joining the ladies on stage for a few songs. Dad dancing with the cuties. LOL.

They used to have two wonderful VIP rooms upstairs where for 5 drinks anything and everything could occur.

Was out drinking with a mate there in 2002. Was his birthday at midnight so we went to VIP room with 5 ladies, and someone ordered pizza. The pizza delivery guy came up to the VIP room and was very shocked to see 2 guys and 5 naked ladies. Mouth open sort of shocked.

[Sxxxx]

Stardust is the place next to the midget boxing place, off the corner of Burgos / Kalayaan? I was there 2 months ago, it was up / running. But to be honest, there was a typhoon, and it rained like crazy for almost a week, and many nights there were zero gents out / about Burgos. I hit Stardust several evenings, and I was either the only customer, or one night I met 3 aussie's who walked in (I think they were the only other customers I saw).

Thanks Westie, alias Mr ISG.

Going on what you say, seems rumor that it is out of business might be right. They started putting on shows Wed to Sat at Stardust Angeles, maybe that was a precursor to exiting high rent area Makati, and start entering a captive audience in Angeles?.

First experienced them at Angeles, some mighty pretty dancing girls visited Angeles and they were procurable. I noticed guys buying show girls drinks in between their excellent stage performances, and have been fantasizing buying them ladies drinks on my next trip soon.

Keep up the good work in Photo section.

And like the newbies "Give me answers to my many questions now and after trip I will post a report" LOL. Their reports, rarely to be seen, LOL. I too will place a report after my Phil reconnaisance in November, although being a Jehovah Witness devotee I am allowed to have sex, but not allowed to take photo's and post same, LOL.

If Stardust is no more, it proves once again, "do not hesitate, strike whilst the iron is hot". Some very do-able girls in Stardust line up early this year Angeles.

Full report November.

Thank you Mr ISG.

[WestCoast1]

Hope I don't get the Slippery treatment, LOL.

Anyone know if Stardust show bar Makati is closed, out of business?

Thanks.

Stardust is the place next to the midget boxing place, off the corner of Burgos / Kalayaan? I was there 2 months ago, it was up / running. But to be honest, there was a typhoon, and it rained like crazy for almost a week, and many nights there were zero gents out / about Burgos. I hit Stardust several evenings, and I was either the only customer, or one night I met 3 aussie's who walked in (I think they were the only other customers I saw).