Jakarta

[Tiradentes]

Given your handle, it may be worth mentioning that my extensive mongering in Brazil initially taught me that at least there there is a negligible if any correlation between cost and quality. In my experience, that also tends to be the case in Indonesia, particularly when it comes to service.

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Indeed, Rio and specially Terma Centaurus were my favorite places in the whole world only 4 years ago. Then everything changed. My love for Rio turned into despise. I got infected by the Asian bug, specifically the BBFS bug. I doubt I will ever step a foot in Rio again even if the US dollar hits 8 Reais.

I did have a cheat sheet with the name of at least 10 places to visit, 2 for every day while I am there in Jakarta. I went to Alexis because it was rated as the best. Obviously, that wasn't the case. The place is luxurious, but I am not there to eff the place. When I came back to my hotel and read more about it, I found that the Alexis management owns Emporium and other facilities on my list. So I cross all these out my notes.

Regarding cheaper venues such as King Cross and others, and as Egy Monger corroborated my statement, if you are not local, then there is a big chance that you will be refused service. So, again, cheap venues such as Travel / Classic hotels were deemed not worth my time.

So, Maliobore, it was. It also helped since I was staying at the Grand Mercure Harmoni, which is located 5 minutes walk from the place. Good services, good looking women, fair prices for FS made me go back 3 times. I did not care too much about the management and the waiters though, reminded me of the assholes at Rio's Terma Centaurus.

I did cut short my trip by one day and decided to fly to BKK instead.

Jakarta places a distant second to BKK in my book. But it surely beat the chaotic crazy city that is Manila.

[Roger Sideways]

ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.

The 100 K note is the biggest one they have, Bro. It's worth about $8 USD, and about $10 AUD.

So we have no choice but to walk around with what looks and feels like a big wad of cash.

Or use your credit card, which is always a risky prospect in Asia.

The good news is that for a couple of those 100 K bills you can get what would cost you $200 at home.

[Smoothy]

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Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis.

Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.

I do agree with you that for a first visit to Jakarta, Malioboro is perhaps the best place to visit. I have to admit that I do not go to expensive places in Jakarta like Alexis or Malioboro very often. I spend $300 to $500 every time I go to Alexis, so I try to avoid it. I probably spend about $200 each time I go to Malioboro. That may not sound too bad, but that is only for a couple of hours of my time and I will certainly shag more than that one girl during the day and night. Even going to the more down market places, I still spend an average of between $250 and $300 a day on women+food and drink+taxis in Jakarta. I spend about the same in Bangkok on food, drink and women (taxi cost is of course higher in Jakarta than in Bangkok).

Yes, getting a taxi with a fair meter price late at night in Jakarta can be a hassle relative to the ease of transportation you find in Bangkok. The main drawback of Jakarta is the fact that moving around town to get to the different entertainment venues is normally a pain. In Bangkok, it's very easy.

[LifeIsABeach]

Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women.

I would be visiting Jakarta and Bali in November and will be reading the posts more thoroughly from a couple of weeks. I have been to Surabaya before and really like the Indo women. Veteran mongers, I would not be coming to Jakarta for sight seeing but just mongering. USD $400.00 / day total seems a bit high for Indonesia. I am not a big drinker neither am a spring chicken that I can fuck 5 women a day. I could do a few hours with a good woman a day for or two some days. Any suggestions?

[Member #4537]

Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.

Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.

ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.

Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.

Places Visited:

A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.

'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.

'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.

1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.

2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor..

Taxis -- there's no reason you should be overpaying. When you're at the airport look for the Bluebird or Silverbird stand. Ignore the touts as they will certainly rip you off. If you're hailing a taxi from outside somewhere like Alexis or Malioboro, don't go with the ones parking outside but walk a few steps to the main street and get a normal one. It's all metered.

ATMs -- Look for ATMs that dispense 100 k bills. CIMB Niaga and HSBC machines, for example, give a solid 3 million in 100 k bills.

Cost - $400/ day is insane for Jakarta even if you're doing the 2-week millionaire thing. That translates to 5. 7 million at current exchange rates. It should be less than half of that if you know your way around and planned things in advance.

King Cross -- I was with a fellow monger a week ago and got the exact same treatment. I could speak in Bahasa fluent and have already been here 5 years. Out of the 5 girls I chose none wanted to go with me and were even making harsh remarks in Bahasa thinking I could not understand what they were saying. Had they just refused me in a polite way without making the remarks it would have been very appreciated. As I was leaving the place I refused to pay the cover charge on the basis that nobody would serve me. After being held for an hour and arguing with the satpams and manager, I was finally allowed to go without paying the ridiculous cover charge of 75 k. Overall, I would avoid this place as there seems to be an Anti-Bule sentiment developing.

Malioboro -- if you're after imports, go there or Classic Bunker instead. There's no reason you should be paying 2. 6 million for a PRC in Alexis if they go for a full million lower in Malioboro. And the girls are rotated between the two venues so they are exactly the same.

BBFS - 500 k is insane to tip for BBFS. When you take a freelancer regardless from where (CJs, BATS, "the street" as you mention) you shouldn't even negotiate a tip but tell her you'll cancel the session and won't pay her a thing if she doesn't give BBBFS. I've never had a chic walk out on me this way. The only places you should be tipping (and a max of 100 k) are the brothels as you've already paid upfront and you can't just walk out on her like with a freelancer.

[LA Guy 5]

Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.

Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.

ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.

Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.

Places Visited:

A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.

'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.

'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.

1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.

2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor.

3. Next night, I got me another spinner stripper. Ordered her shots for a lap dance (250,000 R). Offered BJ, I asked for FS. She replied it is the time of the month. When I told her to get off me then, she rescinded. She asked for 2. 6 millions. Insisted on rubber use, I told her to take a hike.

4. Monday afternon, I visited the spa. Got me a hot one for 1 million Rupia. Offered BBFS + cip for a small tip.

Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. I would not return immediatley, but might in few years as I need to camouflage my frequent visits to BKK.

Given your handle, it may be worth mentioning that my extensive mongering in Brazil initially taught me that at least there there is a negligible if any correlation between cost and quality. In my experience, that also tends to be the case in Indonesia, particularly when it comes to service.

With the exception of King Cross, the places you visited were some of the more expensive places in Jakarta, and IMHO not really worth it (particularly Alexis). It would be like restricting one's mongering in Rio to Centaurus, or perhaps Bomboa in Sao Paulo although these analogies are not perfect in that at least in those Brazilian locales you could pretty much expect good service (albeit at a high price).

And it also looks like you didn't do your homework about taxis, unless your airport taxi to North Jakarta was by choice a Silver Bird or luxury White Horse (and even with those what you paid seems a tad too much). The only place you visited where you might have had trouble getting a metered taxi (e.g. , a Blue Bird, cheaper-version, i.e., not luxury, White Horse, or Express) was Alexis; indeed I got a metered taxi back from King Cross without any trouble about a week ago (although had to walk across the street to a taxi queue to get it), and never had any problem getting one from Malioboro. On the other hand, I actually prefer paying a premium to be driven from the airport to my hotel in a Silver Bird Mercedes Benz, and believe the cost (around $25 US to Central Jakarta) is one of the best taxi bargains worldwide.

Just to note for future trips, if you do go to Penjay (e.g., Sari Ayu, or LABar), it is difficult to get honest taxis from there. The ones who congregate outside that compound tend to be the type that do not turn on their meters. As a result I often try to flag a Blue Bird or Express on the street, but sometimes have had to wait five or ten minutes to get one.

As to the ATMs, I have never had a problem with the ATMs in Jakarta, although usually take out money from ATMs in places like Plaza Indonesia. My ATM card is based on the U.S.

Have to agree with you that Jakarta is an ugly city.

Short story is if you had stuck to Blue Birds, Expresses, and to a lesser extent the white White Horses, you almost certainly wouldn't have had taxi problems. And on your next trip I would advise trying some of the other locales within Jakarta, unless you are the type who needs to frequent the most luxurious and expensive places.

[Tiradentes]

Visited Jakarta for the first time on my way to BKK. Below is a brief summary of my findings.

Taxis: Bunch of touts everywhere. Was charged 350,000 Rupia from the airport to the hotel in North Jakarta. For the return trip, I was charged half of that amount. When returning from clubs late at night, they refuse to put the meter and charge exuberant amounts.

ATM: I could not withdraw cash at most places, including the airport. And when I do, I would get a stack of small bills. The highest note is 100,00 which is equivalent to $ 7. Good news is that the clubs accept full payment with CC for an extra charge.

Costs: Was spending $ 400/ day average on women+food+taxis. Way beyond my budget.

Places Visited:

A. Hotel Alexis: Was charged 2. 6 millions for a Chinese girl that I would rate a 6 max. Everything was covered (! Went to the restaurant afterward and ordered a burger and a soda. Was charged almost 300,000 Rupiah (due to a 30% surcharge). Then went to the lounge bar. I was charged 100,000 Rupia for entrance. There were a total of 4 dancers in the bar on a Sunday evening. This place is overrated and a highway robbery.

'be'. King Crossings: Visited this place after the disappointing Alexis fiasco. I was IGNORED the entire time I was there by all: Waiters, mamasans, and the women. After staying for almost 1. 5 hours and visiting all 3 floors, I decided to leave empty handed.

'see'. Malioboro Hotel: The only place I can recommend. Had good times and I ended visiting the place on 3 consecutive nights. It is expensive, but not as Alexis above.

1. The women in street clothes cost 1 million. Got me a good looking one but bit shy. After going doing on her, she offered BBFS for 0. 5 million tip. I obliged but no cip. I took her again the next day.

2. The ladies in stripper clothing costs more, way more. Invited the first night a hottie to sit down with me. 250,000 Rupia (I. E. 5 shots of grape juice!) for a lap dance in the bar. Then proceeded to a booth for a BJ for 1 million are. Asked for FS. She said virgin. I said I am the Pope. She replied 3 millions. I declined. She ordered 20 shots of grape juice, which she threw all on the floor.

3. Next night, I got me another spinner stripper. Ordered her shots for a lap dance (250,000 R). Offered BJ, I asked for FS. She replied it is the time of the month. When I told her to get off me then, she rescinded. She asked for 2. 6 millions. Insisted on rubber use, I told her to take a hike.

4. Monday afternoon, I visited the spa. Got me a hot one for 1 million Rupia. Offered BBFS + cip for a small tip.

Overall: Mixed feelings: High costs, crooked taxis, ugly city / some nice looking women. I would not return immediatley, but might in few years as I need to camouflage my frequent visits to BKK.

[John Aldrich]

I think those chicks want too much money. They were asking me for a million over and above the cost of the massage.

Yes you are right Smoothy. That's in most hotels. Since he wanted a walking location from Plaza Senayan, this suggestion was made.

[Smoothy]

What's up with all the black African prostitutes at CJ's these days? I'm not sure who would prefer those girls over the Indo chicks, but it does seem like they get customers. From what I understand, they started at BATS, but after a few nights, BATS has banned them from the bar permanently. So they hit CJs now. Personally, I think the manager at BATS made the right move there.

[Smoothy]

if you are staying in the room, you could order for massage in the room and FS is guaranteed for a negotiated rate.

Have fun,

Cheers.

I think those chicks want too much money. They were asking me for a million over and above the cost of the massage.

[John Aldrich]

Any action around senayan mall?

Seniors please help.

Regards.

Sanysh.

Hotel Atlet, next to Plaza Senayan has a massage parlor. You could expect plus plus if you go the parlor for a negotiated rate. If you are lucky, you can get FS. But, if you are staying in the room, you could order for massage in the room and FS is guaranteed for a negotiated rate.

Have fun,

Cheers.

[Sanysh11]

Hi,

Thanks TimtimGuy.

I know these places by RTFF, but was looking for massage plus plus or establishment like hotel travel.

Any help around that.

Will do the report.

Thanks.

Sanysh.

You are 3 or 4 km north of Blok M. You are less than 2 km from Hotel Mulia Senayan--CJ's Bar.

Please find out some basics and find out where you are relative to many places discussed in the forum. And report back!

[TimTimGuy]

Any action around senayan mall? Seniors please help. Regards.

Sanysh.

You are 3 or 4 km north of Blok M. You are less than 2 km from Hotel Mulia Senayan--CJ's Bar.

Please find out some basics and find out where you are relative to many places discussed in the forum. And report back!

[Sanysh11]

Any action around senayan mall?

Seniors please help.

Regards.

Sanysh.

[John Aldrich]

What are the hours of Travel / Classic hotel clubs? How early does the action start? Are there any other decent spots in Jakarta for daytime action (before 5 pm)?

The action at Travel starts by around 11 am. Classic starts at 4 pm. Almost all the massage parlours in Hayam Wuruk area will start at 11 am. 6th floor, Maribaya starts at 10 am. Though, by the time most of the girls land is by at 12 noon.