St. Maarten (The southern Dutch side)

[Foolish]

Thanks for the posts everyone, gave my friend and I a good framework to do the club tours at night.

A bunch of details are a bit blurry, but hopefully can recap:

While taxi drivers were helpful, we found having a 4 x4 is probably the easiest to bounce around the clubs and navigate the up and down hills / slightly rough road. Only sessioned with a couple of girls max per night, pretty tired from our daily activities.

Night 1 (Friday).

Arrived in the late evening to SXM. Dropped by El Capitan via taxi, girls were very aggressive and we didn't stay long. Dropped by Carolina's and there were a lot of guys and girls (probably 25+ as reports showed). For my taste, most of the girls were bigger than I like (120-130+ lbs). Drinks are cheap ($2 beers, $5-7 other mixed drinks and no ladies markup) and while we did get a lot of attention by the ladies, it's pretty normal to me. I ended up going with Hillary, a Colombian from Cali. She's quite thin (thinnest in the whole place), pale and probably 100 lbs, ok face. Some LFK, CBJ and MPOS, she is nice to hang out with, ok session, $50, . Went to Hypnotic briefly, was pretty dead (was late though, probably 2-3 am).

Night 2 (Saturday).

Got a vehicle and dropped by more clubs. Started at Bada Bing. Knew it was expensive, but there was no cover so there's no harm in checking it out. Had 10-15 girls, probably the club with the girls more to my taste, prettier faces and leaner bodies. Didn't session.

Dropped by Crystals and was dead.

Got to Carolina's and Hillary greeted me again. She introduced me to her friend Marianna, who I'm assuming is the Selena Gomez look alike, although with big DS. Ended up sessioning with her and had a good time, better kissing than Hillary. We all hung out on the couches and had a fun evening.

Night 3 (Sunday).

Casa Blanca (cover of $5, included drink token), Petite Chateau, Sunset resort, Crystals. All pretty much dead with only 3-5 girls in each max.

Dropped by El Capitan and again were "attacked" at the door. My friend enjoyed the attention of his girl and while I wasn't crazy about the girl's body who jumped me, I liked her headband look and face. Her name is "Kacey" or "Kaley / Katie" or something like that from Santo Domingo. Went to the room and she likes a really hard fuck. Was fairly exhausted after that. Definitely not my pace. Apparently it was her birthday and a bunch of the girls seemed to have fun. There was probably 1 other light Dominican and darker Dominican (who didn't seem to be friends with anyone) that I found attractive body and face-wise, but was tired from my session.

Went to Hypnotic and spotted Zoe: natural beauty, great smile, but spoke no English. I observed her smiling, laughing and dancing with one of her friends and hanging out on the couches. Her friend went to the bathroom and I walked up and asked if I could sit down. She said no. That was interesting. Seemed like they were both with the older gentleman sitting down. I was intrigued and her look was definitely different than the default Colombians I was seeing everywhere.

Went to Carolina and chilled there for a while, but I couldn't stop thinking about Zoe. Left my friend at Carolina's (he was hanging out with Anjelica a lot over a few days) and went back to Hypnotic. Walked in and Zoe was hanging in the doorway of where the rooms are, tried to communicate with her and was trying to find out why she was so standoffish, etc. I asked if she was working and she said yes, but wasn't hanging out in the main room. Got a drink and was asking the bartender what the deal was with Zoe. He said she was working and lead me to the room area. Ended up spending a half an hour session with her ($50/$5). The session was ok, but she wasn't that into kissing and wanted a fast pace. I was still enjoying myself because I found her very attractive. I couldn't finish after 30 minutes and we started to clean up / shower, etc. Was going to spend another half an hour with her, but said "slow down, no rush, etc", but for some reason it was really important to her that I finish. Ended up deciding to go back downstairs and get drinks and talk a bit with some help. My friend got kicked out of Carolina (it was closed), so instead of hooking up with Zoe again, asked her to wait 5 minutes and grabbed the car to pick him up on the way (it was approaching 3 am / closing). Only after a few minutes, got back to the room, but Zoe was gone upstairs to sleep.

Day 4/5: Monday. Tried to get up and get back to Hypnotic and Zoe in the morning, but had to catch a flight. Actually had a layover back in SXM a few days later, but Zoe was off. Luckily I got her # from the bartender and was able to touch base. Oh well, have to come back if I want to see her again. Ended up doing a duo with Hillary & Marianna (my first ever), not the greatest interaction and could tell the girls were tired, but it was ok. Had help with Spanish and communicating with Zoe from some other girls, which was cool. They thought I was in love (maybe a little).

Lessons learned: definitely need to learn more Spanish. I wish I found the apps earlier so I could communicate a bit better. I'm not a bang and run kinda guy, so communication is important. I wish I discovered some of these phone apps earlier, even if it's not ideal (better than nothing). A bit disappointed with the general service level: CBJ, LFK (sporatic). FKKs seem much better in this regard with default BBBJ / DFK. Definitely want to visit Colombia / Venezuela now, although I still think the FKK set up is pretty awesome, but I'm likely spending more time in the Caribbean in the near future.

Thanks to Barkey for some insights on TLD / TLN.

F.

[Scubatoo]

Hello,

I just read about thirty pages of the forum, but I can not find what I want! I am looking for the address of a hotel or guesthouse, apps too expensive and the nearest club. I prefer to spend my money in clubs, rather than in a room where I only have a few hours!

Thank you for addresses.

www.airbnb.com

[Prizren]

Hello,

I just read about thirty pages of the forum, but I can not find what I want! I am looking for the address of a hotel or guesthouse, apps too expensive and the nearest club. I prefer to spend my money in clubs, rather than in a room where I only have a few hours!

Thank you for addresses.

[Prizren]

Hello, I will be in Saint Martin on 12 and 13 November (Thursday afternoon and evening in clubs and on Friday afternoon. If there are people present at the site SAINT MARTIN, thank you to send me an MP. I hope to go Carolinas and Hypnotic. I look for Colombian women, with long black hair and long nails (sorry, it's my fantasy! . If some guys visit the spots before me, and have advice or recommendations, I'm interested. See you soon! Jeep.

[DavisLucJr]

Does anyone remember if the "original" Seamans had a room fee? I don't recall ever paying anything to the bar, used to go straight to the room (used to tip the old man who often stood in the entrance to the dormitory. He treated me like some mega-VIP after that).

My very first time on the island was the year before this place closed down for remodelling. I do not recall a room fee.

[Lucky Strike]

As for room time limits, Casablanca and Defiance had no time limits... Hypnotic, El Capitan and Crystal were somewhat loose with the time.

Overstayed 1 hour at Hypnotic by no more than 2-3 min and was extorted another $5 by a very "heavy" lady who collected room fee on that day. El Capitan has always had strict rules about overstaying your time in the room at night, same as the "old" Defiance. Last year during my rare visit to Casablanca the girl kept reminding me that my 20 min was almost over and I had to hurry (haven't visited CB since).

Does anyone remember if the "original" Seamans had a room fee? I don't recall ever paying anything to the bar, used to go straight to the room (used to tip the old man who often stood in the entrance to the dormitory. He treated me like some mega-VIP after that).

[Barkey]

I have never failed to get distracted while visiting my favourite island. I think it may be my ADD Syndrome. (I seem to be afflicted with Ass and Double Dee impairment).

Knoteebuoy.

That's a good one. I'll have to remember that one.

Can you check your mail? Thanks,

Barkey.

[Knoteebuoy]

Knoteebouy.

Have a great trip. While our blonde friend was not there I'm sure you will find many other interesting distractions to keep you busy.

Enjoy.

Barkey.

I have never failed to get distracted while visiting my favourite island. I think it may be my ADD Syndrome. (I seem to be afflicted with Ass and Double Dee impairment).

I appreciate the time and effort that went into the research for your reports. I normally do not bother with El Capitan and Petit Chateau but will this time based on your reports. Keep up the good work. .

Knoteebuoy.

[Scubatoo]

Scubadoo,

You mentioned there is no bar fine and no time limit. Is that correct.

All the years I was going there time was controlled very carefully but one fee was paid for the girl and the room?

Mel.

At PC, I was not asked to pay a bar fine for TLN. It was my understanding from a local that hangs there and other clubs all the time that they take a cut from the chica's fee. El Capitan was $140 TLN and $70 for daytime. Both had curfews to get them back. As for room time limits, Casablanca and Defiance had no time limits. And, although I did not ask this time, prior visit to Sunset did not have a time limit. Hypnotic, El Capitan and Crystal were somewhat loose with the time. Carolina's seems to monitor closely. Since I did not go back to the room at PC, I don't know. My amigo was held to the 20 min time limit by the chica.

[Mel365]

Scubadoo,

You mentioned there is no bar fine and no time limit. Is that correct.

All the years I was going there time was controlled very carefully but one fee was paid for the girl and the room?

Mel.

[Barkey]

As I had hoped for it was another fantastic adventure to the island. It's interesting to me how different each adventure can be. The ultimate goal is the same but the journey takes some different twists and turns each time. Makes it really fun and already looking forward to my next visit.

Based on a quick recon mission to Casablanca last Spring I had really hoped to spend time in the clubs known for the Dominican chicas. It just didn't work out. Maybe next trip I'll try again! All of my time was spent at either Carolinas or Hypnotique. Since I have an attraction to the fantastic Colombian ladies this was not a problem at all as I found a couple of really great girls that were able to entertain me to the max.

Carolinas. As of last week there were reportedly 30 chicas in the house. Many were recent arrivals. Fresh and eager to please. The bar gets pretty crowded and it's hard to get a good look around to take in all the talent. Unless you are looking for someone in particular I think a good strategy would be to have a seat at one of the new loveseats. By doing so, you can get a good look at the whole bar area and surely you will have a parade of chicas approaching you one by one until just the right one comes along. The overall quality was excellent. Most had what I would call pretty typical Colombiana features. Long dark hair, beautiful faces and just sweet personalities. For my taste most of the chicas were a little too well enhanced. Top and bottom. For many punters that maybe is a good thing! There were a mix of a few flacas, a few dark skinned girls and a few with lighter hair. All in all, I'm sure there was someone for everyone's special likes.

Hypotique. Ahhhhh. As of last Wednesday there were 22 girls. Again, many new ones and just an overall great selection. In general the chicas seemed to be a little more natural looking. It is not that they were not enhanced, it just didn't seem in general, to be as drastic as the average girl at Carolinas. In my opinion, just like Scuba's, I found the overall quality better or at least more to my liking anyway. Except for Sunday night, the club was more relaxed. Less crowded and one has a better chance to evaluate.

I was here about this same time last year and I believe this time there were many more chicas available. Almost as many as in the Spring. I guess they are getting ready for high season. Take out costs, room visits about the same. The girls are already doubled up in the rooms at both clubs. Plenty of choices and just not enough time!

For those of you heading out to SXM soon. Have fun.

Barkey.

[Scubatoo]

Part of that last post got hyperspaced. Here is my ranking of the clubs in terms of looks: El Capitan, Hypnotic, Crystal, Carolina's, Petite Chateau, Casablanca, Sunset Retreat and. Defiance. I had great experiences at Defiance in the past, but it has plunged to the bottom. The best crop of DR girls in my memory. Younger, more energetic, more GFE-like. Smaller framed DR women in many clubs. But still have an alpha dog mindset if you are going to score them. The Colombian girls are always fantastic. This year's surprises: El Capitan heads above the other clubs in looks, personality and energy. Petite Chateau is now a "must go" club. And the DR women won me over this year.

Next year will be the same approach. Sample the clubs and just go with the flow. Good things happen after that. I have no doubt there will be surprises next year.

[Scubatoo]

The Clubs: My favorite layouts of the clubs would be Sunset Retreat, El Capitan, Hypnotic, Casablanca, Crystal, Petite Chateau, Carolina's and Defiance in that order. Unfortunately, when the bar is crowded, Carolina's is difficult to get to the bar, and difficult to mingle with chicas. By far, the busiest club with the most girls. The best atmosphere with the chicas energetic was El Capitan-no close second.

Room charges / Take out: typically $50 US for 20 minutes, but often 30. $100/ HR. Small room key fee. TLN rates vary, but the girls are asking $400. That is way higher than before. But it is still negotiable and you should negotiate. I had good communication with Veronica and we worked out things that were not typical. Bar fines vary by club. El Capitan was $140 for night takeout, and $70 for daytime. It is my understanding that Petite Chateau does not charge a bar fine, but takes a cut from the chica.

Communication: My Spanish gets better every year, but not good enough to get into deeper conversation. DR Spanish is especially fast, while the Colombians are slower paced. But everyone there seems to be using WhatsApp, a free download on your cell phone that allows free calls, messaging and transfer of pictures. Just need wifi or data plan to get internet access. Google Translate is a great tool to translate English to Spanish or vice versa. All the clubs have wifi now, and all the chicas have smartphones. So communication is so much easier now. I put this to great use last week. Most of the chicas give you their phone numbers and you can message them at any time during the day or evening.

Cruise Ship Schedule: Take advantage of www.portofstmaarten.com to track the cruise ship schedule. It is a great tool for gauging traffic and club traffic on any given day. For sure, Thursdays are the busiest cruise ship days. I have been in St. Maarten when there were 6 in port in one day. This year, 4.

General Observations: Island got a lot of visitors starting Friday. It appears the busy season is starting. Getting around during rush hours is still slow. But club hours are such that you rarely need to worry, unless you are returning a chica from a TLN or day takeout. The bridge to nowhere by the airport gets you to Marigot in minutes from Simpson Bay. A good place to hang for lunch and local beaches. The trash strike on the French side had crippled traffic on Wed, but is now resolved. The workers had pushed trash bins into the streets to make it impossible to penetrate the only road toward Grand Case. Weather is always very good this time of year. Disappointed with the night life apart from the clubs. Philipsburg has nothing in the evening except a couple casinos. In Simpson Bay, some popular night spots with music are now closed. The Coconut Grove next to Pineapple's is now closed for good. This used to have great Latin dance music and many chicas used to go there to dance. The houka bar that was on top the building that has the grocery store is also closed. It had great DJ / disco, but is gone now. Maho seems to be the only place for some spirited night life.

I hate leaving every year, and I think of St. Maarten all year long. It is such a fun playground in the clubs. Be bold, friendly, approachable and good things come at all the clubs.

Thanks again for all of you that share your experiences. I have learned so much from you and it makes the trips so much easier.

[Scubatoo]

The one thing that is universal. Women are women. And at these clubs, if you have a great session with one of the chicas, or come back for another, the other girls view you as "off limits". That is why playing at all the clubs is important. Don't crap in your kitchen if you want to continue to eat at the table. So I make it into the bar and greeted by her close amigas, who look fabulous. A few minutes later, Veronica is draped over me and shortly thereafter, she is changed and ready to head out. Her attitude has improved, and she is full of energy again. She asks to go back to EC for one beer and to say Hello, to her former clubmates. It is a lovefest when she arrives. The girls are hugging like she had been away for a year, but the energy at EC went up a number of notches. The club was not very busy, so the girls start dancing with each other and on the pole. It was fun to watch. And despite the exit of three beauties from this club, there are plenty left. We left and grabbed a pizza at an outdoor seating place in Simpson Bay and listened to some relaxing music. Then, we played on the beach and had a nice final night together. I had her back at 9:00 am, said goodbyes, and headed back to NY.

[Scubatoo]

Girls have to be back at 9:00 am at PC. That sucks. But I dropped her off on time and told her I would see her later that night.

I skipped the afternoon sessions to hang with my amigo. But come evening time, I was definitely heading to Casablanca and Sunset Retreat to check things out there. Arrived at Casablanca around 8:30 pm. You get here by hugging the road to the right as you come down the hill on the main road past Defiance. Street sign on the road by a white wall you follow a steep driveway to the top. This is a great bar area. About 8-10 decent looking DR girls sitting around as I walk in. A couple of patrons. I said Hello, to the girls as I walked in and was immediately approached by Rosa, a caramel skinned, curvy and sexy woman, probably 35 +/ She had just arrived on Friday and was very talkative with good English. I was here to scout, not drill, but I got a lot of good info. Club is open 6 pm to 6 am. No bar fee, no time limit in the room. Rosa is a sweet, meaty woman and I would not have hesitated to take her to the room if I was not going to see Veronica again this night. But I was.

Bought Rosa a drink and gave her $20 for the time spent with me at the bar. Her occupying my time while I checked out the other chicas, info on the club, and just a fun 30 minutes was worth the tip. Certainly not required. Left Casablanca and stopped in at Sunset Retreat, whiThch is a short way before you get to Casablanca. I really like the feel of this club. The bar is spacious, yet cozy. Nice bar area. Dance pole and plenty of comfy seating around the club. The problem is its remoteness and parking that is not lit. There is a road that branches off to the right at the club. You can park there and it is well lit. But you have to access the club from the main road with a sliver of sidewalk to take you to the main entrance. There used to be an entrance on the side road, but nothing there this time. Perhaps only open when the small bar is open 4-7. The main parking lot is across the road, unpaved, unlit and remote. As a single, I am hesitant to park there, but early evening a little less concern. I do not know if they have had trouble there in the parking lot, but I do not take that kind of chance.

Inside, several decent looking girls. Maybe 10 or so. I went to the bar and introduced myself to Queen, a dark skinned DR woman with some English. Attractive face, with some junk in the trunk. Spent a short while checking out the scene here and headed to PC. Later, it dawned on me that it was the same Queen I met at Casablanca a couple of years ago. I had a thunderous session with her back then, and my review is posted around the same dates in 2013 for those who want to know about her. Bring your alpha dog attitude with you if you want to do her and most of the DR girls.

Left Sunset and headed over to PC. I walk in and all the girls are saying "Veronica".