Angeles City

[Blanquiceleste]

It's not only alcohol, or any other ingested stimuli that can culminate in disastrous choices. Some of the middle aged to older newbies who flock here, and who are unaccustomed to the instant availability of nubile young things, experience a break with reason, and begin to believe that they're again 25, fit, toned and desirable, and the wilier girls can sense and bolster the illusion. I'm sure that virtually all of us who have lived in the region for a while have met men of this genre, some of whom are beyond reasoning. How many times have many of us heard variations on the theme: "I know what you're saying, but she's different. She really likes me," or "we really have a connection. " Many others become victims of the Pygmallion syndrome, and believe they can transform the bar girl who has taken their fancy. Others some to see themselves as saviors, who can rescue their chosen from lives of poverty and danger. There's no reasoning with the deeply smitten though we all know how the inevitable unhappy ending will be written.

GE.

Fantastic summary. This is not really a report but if there was a way to get this on the ROD thread I would nominate it. I will admit I have myself behaved like a 25 yo in a bar, screaming my lungs out on a Led Zep number or buying drinks to all and sundry or even taking to the pole once in a while. And come away a few hundred dollars poorer. But I have never harbored the illusion of rescuing a bar girl from her plight.

[EstebanFine]

I am here in AC for the second time now. First time was in February. Back in time I was really impressed of the beauty of the girls. That's why I came back. Right now I feel disappointed. Where are all the good girls gone?

I went to a all the great clubs (Dollhouse, Atlantis, Centaure, Club Asia etc.) where they use to have many 10 rated girls to find out that that the quality is only average. Sometimes even below.

Maybe it's the time of the year?

I have only little experience with the small clubs on Don Juice Aven. Is there a place I should try if I like to find young beautiful girls which don't look too typical Asian?

Thanks

[ForceSteeler]

It's not only alcohol, or any other ingested stimuli that can culminate in disastrous choices. Some of the middle aged to older newbies who flock here, and who are unaccustomed to the instant availability of nubile young things, experience a break with reason, and begin to believe that they're again 25, fit, toned and desirable, and the wilier girls can sense and bolster the illusion. I'm sure that virtually all of us who have lived in the region for a while have met men of this genre, some of whom are beyond reasoning. How many times have many of us heard variations on the theme: "I know what you're saying, but she's different. She really likes me," or "we really have a connection. " Many others become victims of the Pygmallion syndrome, and believe they can transform the bar girl who has taken their fancy. Others some to see themselves as saviors, who can rescue their chosen from lives of poverty and danger. There's no reasoning with the deeply smitten though we all know how the inevitable unhappy ending will be written.

GE.

Well I have been mongering for a while (5 Years) and I never fall for these working girl lies, or believe in a illusion. At the end of the day I'm paying them, and they want me for my money that's it. You want to know how these Filipino girls really feel about you.

Don't pay them or give them any money and you will find out real quick. People will always smile at you when they can get something from you, Just like Friends, You know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Reality sets in real quick.

So at the end of the day I always look at Angeles City as Disneyland that is it!

[GoodEnough]

It's not only alcohol, or any other ingested stimuli that can culminate in disastrous choices. Some of the middle aged to older newbies who flock here, and who are unaccustomed to the instant availability of nubile young things, experience a break with reason, and begin to believe that they're again 25, fit, toned and desirable, and the wilier girls can sense and bolster the illusion. I'm sure that virtually all of us who have lived in the region for a while have met men of this genre, some of whom are beyond reasoning. How many times have many of us heard variations on the theme: "I know what you're saying, but she's different. She really likes me," or "we really have a connection. " Many others become victims of the Pygmallion syndrome, and believe they can transform the bar girl who has taken their fancy. Others some to see themselves as saviors, who can rescue their chosen from lives of poverty and danger. There's no reasoning with the deeply smitten though we all know how the inevitable unhappy ending will be written.

GE.

[Threadbare]

I am planning my next trip to Angeles for next year and I am curious about Subic. I like the laid back beach atmosphere of Pattaya and I'll be heading there after Angeles. Is Subic like a mini (very mini) version of Pattaya except of course with Pinays? Specifically I like the idea of laying on the beach during the day and hitting the bars at night in both places but I have no Subic experience. So would you break up a week in AC with a few nights in Subic or would you just do your week in AC then get your beach jones out of the way in Pattaya?

Subic is certainly no Pattaya. I haven't been to Pattaya for a few years now, but Subic is like really quiet, just a few girl bars. But it does have a beach, and last year at least a couple of floating bars a few metres off the beach, where the bar girls start work around midday. I went last year to meet a DIA girl, and going back in January, breaking. G up a week in AC. It's nice, but Pattaya it ain't! And of course the girls are Phillies, which I prefer anyway.

[Screaming Beaver]

I know the Philipino Economy is in a Free Fall!

It is? That's news to me. Their stock market and currency seems to be doing quite well compared to other countries. It is hardly what can be referred to as a free fall.

[CrownRoyal]

I am planning my next trip to Angeles for next year and I am curious about Subic. I like the laid back beach atmosphere of Pattaya and I'll be heading there after Angeles. Is Subic like a mini (very mini) version of Pattaya except of course with Pinays? Specifically I like the idea of laying on the beach during the day and hitting the bars at night in both places but I have no Subic experience. So would you break up a week in AC with a few nights in Subic or would you just do your week in AC then get your beach jones out of the way in Pattaya?

The beach at Subic is better than Pattaya, proper at least. But when I was in Pattaya I had a house in Pratumnak Hills so I hit the beach in Jomtien, which was far better than the beach in Pattaya IMHO. I think Jomtien is better than Subic.

I rented a cottage at Baloy some time ago for a few months. I believe the former owner sold the property so I'm not sure of any new 'rules', but when I was there during the summer months they ran huge numbers of buses up from Manila on the weekends and the place was miserably packed. They must have brought in 1,000 people on the buses. I know that happened when school was out for the summer, but I can't remember the months that occurred. During the week it was fine. If you end up going there, there was a Filipino that strolled that beach every day selling Banana que. I have yet to find better banana que any where in the PI.

I was Domestically Incarcerated when I was there so I didn't have a chance to play, but there were a lot of bars around Subic and especially in Olongapo.

I've spent close to a year in Copacabana so there aren't many beaches that do anything for me now. If it were me, I'd stay in AC, but if you absolutely have to get sand where the sun don't shine, I'm sure you'd enjoy Subic.

Jackson, I know you read my reports before posting. I see a lot of your comments about people using hard returns. You may not be aware of this, but when I type in your vBulletin window, the text does not wrap as I am typing. When I 'preview' or post, the text wraps but not while typing. I can type a really long paragraph and the text will literally be 10 feet long on the screen. I'm sure people are hitting enter (return) so they can see what they are typing. This same issue occurs in the USASG software as well.

FYI. I am using Win 7 with a Firefox browser. All my software is up to date with patches, bug fixes etc.

[Lou32]

I am planning my next trip to Angeles for next year and I am curious about Subic. I like the laid back beach atmosphere of Pattaya and I'll be heading there after Angeles. Is Subic like a mini (very mini) version of Pattaya except of course with Pinays? Specifically I like the idea of laying on the beach during the day and hitting the bars at night in both places but I have no Subic experience. So would you break up a week in AC with a few nights in Subic or would you just do your week in AC then get your beach jones out of the way in Pattaya?

[ForceSteeler]

Hey Guys,

I'm planning a trip to Angeles City next year. I have not been to angeles in over 2 years? Anything new I should look out for? I know the Philipino Economy is in a Free Fall! How is the Bar Fine? Can you still bar fine? There's one thing I kinda hate about Angeles City Compared to many other mongering spots, There are just too many half way working girls in Angeles, Most of the really hot bar girls like to run scams and would rather milk costumers for lady drinks, then to do a Bar Fine. Its like I have to Play and Run Games on them and still have to pay for the pussy. Isn't that the whole reason why we pay for pussy? So I don't have to play games? If I wanted to play games I would just get me a normal chick, Its Call DATING! But anyways I'm rambling. Just wanted a update on the scene.

[WestCoast1]

Alcohol and bad judgement. How many stories have been told of these two playing havoc with people's lives?

I would take it a step further, and say its all bad judgment. Anyone who drinks to the point of the alcohol effecting his judgment (even if that's just 1 drink) is showing: bad judgment. However, I am expressing only an opinion. The aussie that was sending money (that he couldn't afford) to provincial girls whom he'd never meet, is also entitled to his own opinion.

[Mua Tur]

The massive amount of bar girl scams are well known (and well documented on this forum), yet still the zombies still walk straight into the obvious open traps.

I had a peculiar experience in regards of service girls, but not here in PI, it is in Bangkok, Thailand and the relativity of the topics I cannot stop myself to share my experience with the board.

I was staying in Hotel Amari, Pratunam, Bangkok and I saw a massage girl in the hotel lounge going back after finishing an outcall service. I m not a sucker of service girls (since I have plenty of freebies waiting in serial for dates), but her amazing body shape and full mouth smile made me instant inclined to her. We made an appointment and decided after work she is coming to see me. Well, all done nicely, I find this girl tried her best to make me happy in all respect. I was expecting this kind of super lookers could be find snobbish or nosy. But with me she was not.

The Hick up started when I saw a Dutch guy (50+ yrs) waiting for me in lounge next morning. He showed the pic of same massage girl and tried to warn me not to meet her. Because he is going to marry her and he is going to take her with him in Denmark. I ignored him and advised him to mind his own business and let me do the same. Surprisingly I saw the girl in afternoon in same place I met before. I thought she is here for some other client but she claimed she came to see me and that make me awkward and I requested her don't do this again if you are not invited. I informed her about the Dutch guy and keep me out of their business. Instantly her face gets off and she leaved the place silently (After a week I checked her said massage joint in Phetchbury road, but I did not find her).

This incidence drives me crazy because I had an appointment with my girl in this hotel in evening. I get afraid if the crazy Dutch sucker's balloon starts flying from the massage house to my hotel that may harm my date. For this date I invested a pretty good amount of time. I changed my date plan from this hotel to another hotel at soi 64, Sukhumvit. And cost me another USD40.00.

[Blanquiceleste]

For instance, a guy in AC being affectioned by a bargirl (as referenced by the article above) might not realize he's being played. He might indeed actually believe the girl is his new best-friend, and that she's actually laughing at his humor

Alcohol and bad judgement. How many stories have been told of these two playing havoc with people's lives?

[Screaming Beaver]

Maybe the zombies lack self confidence, self esteem and fear rejection.

Bingo! The women they have had to deal with back home left them a shell of a former man they used to be. As they sashay into Doll House or Ice Bar and notice these women actually take a shining to them they go a bit crazy and end up doing anything they are asked to do, financial and otherwise. That's how they have been trained by the women back home. The only difference now is they are actually getting laid but at the end of the day they are still being played for a chump.

[Red Dogger]

For sure, go to AC and enjoy the cheap pussy, however I am always totally amazed the way guys lose their common sense when they go to AC. They send money to bar girls. They even marry them, commonly supporting kids that are clearly not their own. They often even pretend the kids are actually their own (no DNA tests done of course). Time and again I have observed the kids' Filipino father lurking in the background acting as a trike driver or cousin or whatever. The massive amount of bar girl scams are well known (and well documented on this forum), yet still the zombies still walk straight into the obvious open traps. What is really amazing is that there are so many available, very interested, beautiful Filipinas in the country outside the bars, yet the zombies have no interest in these. A large number are also professionally qualified. Maybe the zombies lack self confidence, self esteem and fear rejection.

Obviously you should assume any girl who resides in Pampanga or Manila is a working girl. While not every girl in Pampanga or Manila is a working girl, and not every girl outside Pampanga or Manila is a virgin, it is a remarkably good starting approximation.

Secondly, I think the guys you are calling zombies cannot pass shit tests. A non working girl will always shit test you, so if you cannot pass shit tests, always wind up with working girls.

[Red Dogger]

some of my long time angeles friends still swear blind they find and have sex with model looking angeles bargirls every day,always pay next to nothing pesos and have to throw the girl out at lunch time kicking and screamig,yes dream on i say,

things have changed drastically over the last few years,girls have got mighty choosy on who they will barfine with if at all,it all comes down to the ability of girls to earn easy pesos in so many ways,

You get better looking girls on FilipinoCupid, but of course there are a lot of girls on Filipino Cupid who are angling for some guy to send them 3000 pesos a week. Preferably an old fat guy who is incapable of sex, or does not want sex all that often.

This is not too bad a deal assuming that you visit her and she visits you from time to time and you are in fact capable of having lots of sex.

Filipinas you meet on the internet are sometimes motivated to get as much money as possible for as little sex as possible from as many men as possible, but this is more readily detectable than you might think. Girls that are reasonably interested in sex will shit test you as usual like the regular non pro girls that they are, will not send out what are suspiciously like spam letters, will not keep asking you for a date, etc.

Motivations of Filipinas you meet on the internet.

1. Extracting money, preferably with no more sex than absolutely necessary.

2. Expensive entertainment. Preferably without any sex.

3. Money is status, want to fuck some guy in an expensive place, and put photos on facebook and instagram to show all their friends that they did a threesome in the Boracay Shangrila.

4. Money is status, want to fuck some guy with status.

5. Sex with some guy that afford a nice place to fuck them.

So you want to filter out one and two, and focus on four and five. So how do you tell if a girl is actually attracted to you? You are old ugly bald and fat. Will any girl be attracted to you?

Watch for shit tests. Girls cannot help shit testing men they are attracted to just as men cannot help looking at girls boobs.