Mandalay

[Roaming Viking]

I recently returned from a one-week-long trip to Mandalay. As previously reported, the mongering scene in Mandalay is definitely sub-par; however, there are possibilities for those adventurous enough to venture into Terra Incognita. I did not partake because, quite frankly, I felt a little bit uneasy going into unknown territory. I was staying at a nice enough tourist-type hotel ($25 a night is very reasonable, right, after the overpriced rates charged in Yangon, though I never paid more than $35 at more than adequate Queen Anne, centrally located in Yangon). Now, my hotel was conveniently located only a short walk from the canal surrounding the royal palace. Mongers will find an assortment of young, too young maybe, but quite shabby, very poor-looking street girls sitting on and around the walkway going over to the palace grounds at 26th street. I struck up a conversation with a few of them and in no time at all they were making unambiguous, obscene gestures with their fingers. They had no English skills whatsoever and looked kind of unhealthy (not at all like Thailand or Cambodia, for that matter, except maybe Golden Sorya mall or Walkabout) but I gather that they were available for no more than $6. They beckoned me to go on a motorbike to some more or less distant location, but, not feeling entirely sure of myself--of what passes and what doesn't in this very foreign land--I declined. BUT I did follow this one girl on a short walk along the pitch black promenade on the embankment of the canal. And at one point she let me grope her. I stood behind her against the railing and slid both hands down her loosely buttoned blouse and felt her very firm, nice young titties. She wasn't wearing a bra. Not able to contain myself I let my one hand wander up under her skirt. She wasn't wearing any panties either and before I knew it, I was caressing her almost hairless little pussy. She did not seem to mind; on the contrary, she moaned softly and let me gently finger fuck her for a good five minutes or so. We were all alone and it was dark all around. Believe me, it took a lot of will power to resist her invitation to join her in some hotel somewhere. I gave her $5 dollars for her hospitality. The next day I investigated the surroundings but found no suspect love hotels anywhere close, so the chances are she would have taken me somewhere faraway place where I might have fallen victim to some scam or other. Advice from more experienced mongers is greatly appreciated. That night I also saw various trannies and ladyboys in the same venue, but I soon strayed back to the venue of my first encounter and saw yet another stunning teenage girl. Clearly, there is something going on here but I did not pursue. In large part because I had my eyes set on this 20-something girl at the reception desk of my hotel. The next night I wined and dined her and we hit it off really well. And sure enough, she agreed to visit me but in another hotel and we spent a wonderful night together. Myanmar girls are hot as hell and with a little coaxing will do just about anything. I can't begin to describe her: quite tall and slender, long black hair, a beautiful face, small, pert little titties and just a hint of hair on her tight little pussy. She loved it when I went down on her and licked her, bucked her hips and came like crazy against my mouth. First time DATY, she confessed, and she just loved it. First time to suck too, she said, but she was a natural and sucked me nice and slow almost making me come right then and there. At that point, she pulled me over her and I entered her BB--I threw all caution to the wind, breaking my cardinal rule for maybe only the second or third time ever but it just felt so right at the moment--and climaxed in no time at all. We fell asleep in each other's arms. In the morning I gave her a small gift, which at first she was reluctant to accept. For your family, I said and she relented. Later that week we went on a four-day holiday to Bagan and had the time of our lives. We exchange emails every day now and we are planning a holiday next summer. I am quite smitten I have to say. Does anyone know what the visa regulations are for Myanmar citizens, which countries they can visit with a minimum of hassle?

[Crypton]

How come there is no Yangon Reports thread in the Myanmar forum? Am I missing something?

[Armand75]

Hi my friend,

In 2 month I go Mandalay. It look like to be difficult to meet lady there. Did you meet some nice lady there? If I paid 40-80 dollar, did I have any chance to find a beautiful girl?

Thank you for all.

[Asian Summer]

First, many thanks to Sir Lancelot and FunMan13 for the very good information! I was in Mandalay last summer (excuse my bad English).

Paysex in Mandalay, short version: Forget it!

Massage: There are some massage salons where only young men work. The Hotel Mandalay 2. Floor (see old posts & photo) might be a massage with happy ending possible. But the girl was too chubby, the massage itself was terrible.

Freelancer: I have found nothing in the center, I followed almost a lot of information I could find here or on the Internet.

Action, organized by a moto-driver:

At the edge of town there is a chicken farm (I think it was in the east). A 30 minute number will cost $ 15 in a small "fuckingbox". The girl do, what ever you want. There were about 10 to choose from, 2 were 7, the other less (age was between 20 and 30, I think).

The next day, the driver tried to organize a girl. In short, it was a disaster. After several long trips back and forth across the city (meanwhile, we were 4 people on three Motos), he has organized two very pretty young girls. However, the short time Hotel wanted $40, which I declined on principle. For the girls themselves, it was the same amount. After we found a cheap hotel, it turned out, that the girls go to the room only with Asians.

The Moto-driver told me that many Chinese are in the city. With them it would be no problem, since they are more "invisible".

Mandalay is a great place for tourist. But for sex, Yangon absolutely the better (best) choice.

[Sir Lancelot]

mandalay, day 9, tuesday.

alarm calls at 4am are never fun. apart from once in philippines that is, when i treated to a 'blow-job alarm call'. every morning should start the same! this morning however i woke groggily and felt like a zombie as i did my last minute packing. i tip-toed downstairs to the lobby where the driver i had booked was waiting for me. he looked tired and not particularly grateful for the custom i was throwing his way.

we drove in silence to the port at the northern end of nyaung u. the streets were deserted but i noticed that the closer to the port, the more 'down-town' it felt with fewer hotels. perhaps if there is any action in nyaung u (and that is a big 'if') this is where it would be found. my boat was called the shwe kennery express and i was asleep by the time it left at 5am. the journey up the irrawaddy to mandalay lasted 14 hours. it was an enjoyable day. i sat on the top deck reading my book and drinking the occasional beer while watching the world drift past. the landscape was flat and extremely arid but i enjoyed passing villages, fishermen and the occasional golden stupa. the sunset spectacularly over the river and we arrived in mandalay in darkness.

i wanted to take a taxi in to the city but had to settle for a motorbike towing a cage. i climbed in to the back and we made our way along the dusty sagaing-mandalay expressway which changes in to 84th street as it nears the city. along this road i counted four separate signs for karaoke, each outside a well-lit building. i tapped the driver on the shoulder and asked "beautiful girls at karaoke?" he smiled knowingly and said "very beautiful'. i decided to ask the killer question"do they boom boom?" he grinned, his teeth stained red by betel and said "i think they boom-boom you". his answer suggested that these are regular karaoke joints where it is possible to negotiate extras. i suspect you'd need good game for this. i've never set foot inside a karaoke bar but seeing them here in mandalay was a promising sign.

the main area for hotels in mandalay seemed to be concentrated southwest of mandalay palace. i chose silver star hotel on the corner of 27th and 83rd street. a young-looking girl behind reception told me that rooms cost $45 per night which would include breakfast. i checked in and an even younger looking boy led me to the lift and up to my room on the 6th floor. it was comfortably the best i'd experienced so far in burma, even my room in yangon which cost $110! it was spotlessly clean and it had a safe, cable tv and a well-stocked fridge. the only negative was that the shower was too low so i had to do a limbo dance whenever i used it.

i ate at a very cheap roadside canteen that was packed with locals. i had delicious beef curry and the local delicacy, mutton pancakes. i must say, i'm a fan of burmese food. it's reminiscent of indian cuisine and typically you'll get an aromatic dry curry with side plates of pickles, relishes and dried chilli.

i decided to go for a massage before bedtime. if a pretty girl offered extras i'd certainly consider but mainly i just wanted someone to soothe my aching limbs. i went to golden city crown hotel which is located on 30th street between 70 and 71. i was shown up to the 3rd floor and opted for an oil massage. i would have preferred a foot massage but i figured oil massages are more conducive to extras being offered. i wasn't given the option of choosing a girl, instead an average looking girl walked me to my room. she was a 6/10 and i'd guess was aged mid to late twenties. i stripped naked and lay face down on the bed with a towel draped over me. the massage was nice and when she massaged my thighs i felt myself getting hard. it's always the way, regardless of how pretty the girl is. shortly afterwards she asked me to turn over and i felt a bit embarrassed as i had a very obvious erection underneath the towel. i'm sure she noticed, in fact i detected a slight hint of a smile, but she continued the massage professionally. i decided to test the water. i told her that she was 'lar day' which means 'beautiful' in burmese. she said 'thank you' and blushed but continued with her massage. her reaction suggested that extras weren't on the menu so i didn't pursue it.

i wasn't disappointed as i'd enjoyed a good massage. i gave her a decent tip for her efforts and then stepped back out in to the warm night. the streets were wide and dark and any signs of life seemed to be spread out. i hoped to find a bar where i could have a few drinks, but after wandering aimlessly for a while i decided to head back to my hotel.

i had one full day in mandalay tomorrow and then the day after i would be on my way back to thailand. there would be no shortage of available girls there so i didn't feel pressurized to find any during my time in mandalay. if i could find some action it would be a bonus.

mandalay day 10, wednesday.

after an early alarm call i spent the day sight-seeing. i enjoyed the view from mandalay hill (a lot more than i enjoyed the 1700 steps to get to the top!) then i went to mandalay palace which was surrounded by a wall and moat two kilometers long on each side. at the main gate a security guard with a rifle told me that i had to buy a '$10 combo' ticket to enter. i didn't argue. the palace was very impressive and i took lots of photos to show the folks back home.

i returned to my hotel for a shower and change of clothes. there were four girls behind reception and i noticed a family in the lobby with two young children. although i would recommend silver star hotel, i don't think it's girl-friendly.

so far in burma i'd eaten a lot of local cuisine but tonight i craved western food. i went to bbb european restaurant on 76th street and treated myself to a hamburger and chips. it tasted fantastic! i felt a little sad as i sat there on my own, as it was my last night in burma. it's a beautiful country with incredibly friendly people. i like to experience new places and explore new scenes and it had proved to be a really enjoyable week-long diversion from the bright lights of bangkok and pattaya.

afterwards i considered going to honey massage (which may have now changed its name) , located on the corner of 30th and 71st street. reportedly 'extras' are on the menu but i had a massage last night and didn't fancy going through the whole process again in the hope i'd be offered an overpriced hand-job at the end. besides, tomorrow i'd have no shortage of girls to choose from in pattaya. for that part of the trip i aimed to fuck two girls a day, so a bit of rest and relaxation beforehand was not a bad thing.

on the walk back to my hotel i spotted a venue that could possibly have been a brothel. from bbb restaurant i walked down 76th street and turned right on to a dark road, which may have been 28th street (if not, perhaps the road before). on the right-hand corner was a small shop with no lights on, in front of which were six girls sat on a bench. they were talking to a burmese man but the conversation stopped when i walked past and the girls smiled at me. they were all in their twenties and a few were reasonably pretty. i smiled back but hesitantly kept walking. my first instinct was that it was a brothel but brothels don't usually have girls sat outside on the pavement. also none of them said "you want massage?" and the man didn't ask "you take girl?" if it was a brothel then surely i would have been propositioned. the man said nothing and the girls just smiled.

but then i wondered what kind of establishment would have six girls sat outside at 10pm. perhaps it was a ktv? i looked back but didn't see a sign. it was just a dark shop front with a door leading inside. that seemed to rule out massage too. i pondered walking back but you've got to be careful in situations like this. there may have been an innocent explanation and implying they were pay-for-play might offend them.

sadly i didn't have longer to explore mandalay's pay-for-play scene. i would have liked to visit the so-called 'entertainment district' on 62nd and 35th street, which according to a report i found online has a couple of ktv's and a beer garden where you can hand flowers to singing girls to make them sit with you, then you can try to negotiate short-time. other people report that freelancers can be found along 26th street near the south-east corner of the palace's moat, between 68th and 70th street. i read about another possible option, a lady-house '3 kilometers outside the city'. most of this information was gathered online and therefore might be out-of-date. perhaps hiring a taxi might be the best bet to find action.

i got back to my hotel and opted for an early night. i had a thrill of anticipation when i realised that this time tomorrow i'd be in pattaya.

day 11, thursday.

it is worth noting that mandalay's airport is a fair distance from the city. we crawled through the down-town traffic but soon we were speeding our way down near-deserted motorways. the journey took an hour and cost $12.

i was sad to leave burma. although i had only spent three days in yangon, followed by four days being a tourist in bagan and mandalay, i fell in love with the place and the people. i definitely wouldn't recommend burma as a place to visit solely for pay-for-play but if you wanted to visit a beautiful country with ample girls available in the capital, then it's a good option.

[this diary will continue on the pattaya thread. previous posts could be found in the bangkok and burma 'general info' threads].

[FunMan13]

ConquerorVal,

I was in the Diamond Plaza area twice but did not see the KTV. You are more observant than I am. But I am not into KTV anyway as I don't karaoke (especially loud foreign songs) and I don't drink more than 1 or 2 drinks. Alcohol affects my 'performance'. Even if I do, the language barrier will make it difficult. However, you made a good point. Mandalay is the second largest city in Myanmar. There has to be mongering places. Every Asian city has them, even the smaller ones. We just don't know where they are. Although I am not 'Farang' (I am Asian American) I don't think these places will turn down Farangs. Unlike Japan and Korea where the WGs already make good money from the locals, these WGs desperately need our money. The locals pay them peanuts.

It is very difficult for short-time tourists like us to locate these places. In time when more foreign workers come here and mingle with locals, they will find them. Hopefully they will share that knowledge.

I also agree with you that Mandalay is a beautiful city for tourists. The sights are great, hotels and food are very inexpensive. So far my experience was confined to Mandalay but I found the Burmese very friendly. They all smile and wave or nod to you, even those on the streets. So if one is into this like I am, do come before the hordes of foreigners who will drive up prices and crowd the sights. I am in Bagan now. It is spread over 3 towns. I am not even going to try.

BTW, thanks for your PM.

Funman.

[ConquerorVal]

? Heck, I am done with Mandalay, saw all the tourist sites which were really nice. But I don't think I will return.

Excellent report Funman. Hats off for perseverance. Mandalay is nice, but you're right- its not a place one would return to with mongering in mind.

[FunMan13]

I have tried and failed to post this report for the last two nights because of very bad internet connection. Every time I tried to upload my report, the WiFi connection got cut off.

Two nights ago, about 6:30 PM (Saturday) , as a last resort since it was my last night in Mandalay, I went looking for Honey MS (from previous posts) on corner of 30th St and 71st St. There was nothing on the corner. I cruised all the streets adjacent to that intersection on my bike. I finally found Nirvana which was exactly opposite the street from the inconspicuous entrance to the football stadium and immediately to the right of Mandalay Royal Hotel. This could be the new name of Honey MS as there were no other MPs around. It was located in the middle of 71st St between 29th and 30th Sts. The entrance was also discreet and unassuming. There were 4-5 young men inside the entrance which looked like a hotel counter but there were no other signs except a small red sign which said Nirvana and a bunch of Burmese characters. Luckily, my mongering experience made me take a hard look. Finally one of the men came out and I asked him 'massage? ' He nodded yes and helped me pushed my bike into the entrance to park.

I went in and said 'Massage, special! ' They did not speak English but understood the 2 words. One man unlocked the only door next to the reception hall with a key, went into the room and turned on the AC and TV. Then he sprayed mosquito repellant! After a while, they ushered me into the room. A chubby girl followed me with a tray. She looked between 25 to 30 yo, looks 7/10. She gestured for me to undress (of course she didn't speak a word of English) and to lie on the massage table. As she arranged her tray, I spotted a condom so I thought to myself, 'Good, as least I am in the right place. '

She started massaging my back and legs. It was okay, typical, like the cheap massages in Bangkok. After she did the back, she gestured for me to flip over. She then continued massaging my legs and thighs. She brushed my balls a few times but it was not the teasing kind. When she was done, she pointed to my dick and gestured a HJ. I gestured back that I wanted FS but she shook her head. I tried to show that I will pay more but she refused. WTF? So I had to decide quickly. I signed her: How much? She gestured 15, I figured 15, 000kyt. I wasn't in the mood to haggle a few bucks off so I nodded okay. She proceeded to whack me off. It was very mechanical. She did not even look at me. She was watching the TV. I signed her to take off her clothes. She gestured no. I started feeling under her shirt. She did not stop me. I tried to undo her bra. She stopped me. So I stuck my hand into her bra and played with her nipple which she allowed. The whole situation was not very titillating. I decided to just let things run its course. It took a long time but she did not complain or stop. Surprisingly I finally came.

She cleaned me up with a towel. I decided to take a shower because massage oil made me uncomfortable. There is a shower & commode in the room. She handed me a container of liquid soap. The water was freezing cold! After shower she handed me a clean towel, then helped me dress. I gave her 15, 000kyt and got the first smile from her. She even gave me bottled water. At the reception I paid another 10, 000kyt. So the total damage was about US$25. I could have gotten ST in Bangkok or Bali for that price! BTW, I did not see another customer the whole time I was there. Repeat? Heck, I am done with Mandalay, saw all the tourist sites which were really nice. But I don't think I will return.

[ConquerorVal]

Tonight I have one more shot.

Did not get to read your report until now, and I hope you had some success during your last night. My hotel was around the Diamond Plaza and I did see a KTV close by as well as some girls that may have been working girls. But I would not bet on the girls-could have been just wishful thinking. Shitload of religious sites to see for sure. In retrospect, I found Mandalay quite interesting from a tourist's point of view. However, I just had this feeling that there is mongering going on in the city, but very difficult for farangs to access. Regardless of the outcome, just by reporting and contributing you are making this thread stronger! Thanks!

[FunMan13]

how wrong i was in my confidence expressed in my previous report. no wonder no one post anything on this thread lately.

i have been in town for 3 days. i have not been able to find anything related to our hobby. first of all, i don't think my hotel is gf. there was too many young male and female staff milling around. some of them look ****. i don't even want to ask them about mps & fls.

i tried to ask a couple taxi and motorbike taxi drivers. they gave me blank stares. i think language is a huge problem. i rented a motorbike for two days and took a 3-neighboring city tour on one day. i went sightseeing as well as keeping a lookout for bars and mps. i didn't find anything. i also could not find the great wall hotel. i did find the new great wall hotel on 33rd st at 83rd st but there was no mp around. i did see mandalay hill, mandalay palace, and 16 temples and pagodas in 3 days!

tonight i have one more shot.

[FunMan13]

Sorry, I hit the send button too soon.

I will be going to Mandalay in about a week. I don't know how many days I will stay there before going on to Yangon, depends of what's to see and do. My purpose is touring and sightseeing, only mongering on the side if there's opportunity (or else I would stay in Bangkok or go straight to Yangon). Anyway, I hope to find something regarding our hobby and contribute to this extremely weak thread.

One thing I learned from traveling around the world is if you don't find anything yourself, ask the guys who work in your hotel or the taxi drivers. They all know or can find out although YMMV.

I have one question: I have not booked my hotel. Which area of town should I stay that's convenient (and GF)? I am not in the Sheraton-type class.

Funman13

[FunMan13]

ConquerorVal,

Sorry to hear of your illness. It's a scary helpless feeling, worse if you are alone. Some years ago I was in Bangkok with a severe fever and flu. I was in bed for four days, could hardly get out of bed. Unfortunately I didn't speak a word of Thai and the housekeeping man did not speak a word of English. He did not have the intelligence to call the front desk. Just left me there for four days although he gave me bottled water. All I needed was aspirin, Tylenol or ibuprofen to fight the fever. But he just could not understand. Anyway, I learned my lesson. Now I travel with a horde of medicines.

Funman13

[ConquerorVal]

Not much information on mongering in Mandalay is available. Some newspaper articles indicated sex trade was quite active in the city and recent significant influx of Chinese money was likely to encourage it even more. But I did not see anything that was obvious to me. I suspect you need a local connection and speak the language to take advantage of KTVs and other sources of carnal pleasure. According to one of the articles there are streetwalkers by the river, however, I did not have the time or opportunity to check it out. Even though I spend two days of my four days visit in Mandalay in bed due to food poisoning, I did somehow manage (at my SO's surprise) to go out and buy some pop and digestive cookies, as my whole family was sick. Digging deep I went in search of a massage parlor not far from my hotel, mentioned by a previous member, namely the Honey Massage on 30th and 7ist streets, across the stadium. Unfortunately, I did not find any massage parlor in the vicinity (it was dark) , and when I asked couple of bike taxi riders, they did not know of the place. I only saw a sign pointing to KTV on a nearby street. English is very limited in Burma and getting anything across, especially regarding something naughty, can be a challenge. I did eventually get a taxi guy who did say lady massage at 10000 kyat / hour. He was going to take me there, but unfortunately I ran out of time. I regret I did not use this approach earlier-just asking a motorbike taxi guy to take me to a lady massage place, The worst thing would have been to get a cheap massage. In the times I have been driven around the city I saw only two massage signs (in English). One on the Great Wall Hotel and the other across the To To Myanmar Cuisine restaurant-ironically the place where we all likely got our food poising, which put a real kibosh on my mongering aspirations.

[Liggi1]

Is it possible to take girl for overnight?

[CumFlyWMe69]

Just back from Mandalay.

While nothing like Yangoon, it has some action for the persistent.

Place: Honey Massage.

Location: Corner of 30th and 71st street. Opp the Ba Htoo stadium.

There is typical building with a "massage" sign outside. There will be a couple of guys sitting at the entrance lounging / chewing pan.

They know what you want. .

They have 3 options. Normal, special and super special.

I took the special at 10, 000 kyats.

You cannot choose but what they sent was worth the 10K.

Standard massage, flirting and HJ. Tips was another 10K.

So all in all 30 dollars.

Very high compared to Rangoon but they I had to conquer Mandalay too.

Have fun and stay safe!

So "super special" would be FS?