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  1. #12947
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Personally Dan I have no desire to persuade. I want an experienced gal with a very good skill set that is doing things of her own volition and better yet, enjoys them and enjoys playing with a man.
    People don't become experienced all of a sudden. And experienced people don't stay in their occupation forever either. Older workers leave, and younger inexperienced workers come in. That's how it always has been, and there is nothing anybody can do to change this.

    I suppose you can say that you don't feel any responsibility at all for maintaining the P4P market. But if everyone approaches it with such an attitude, then after a while there might not be much of a P4P market for anyone.

    It's like employers in many western countries often reject inexperienced graduates from schools. Many of these graduates leave the profession and find something else to do. And then these same employers complain that they can't find enough workers for their profession.

    When employers don't take any responsibility for maintaining the job market, then they are just thinking short-term and screwing themselves in the future.

  2. #12946
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan7373  [View Original Post]
    IBut I'd say that 'filtering' might not be a good way to do it. This should be more like bargaining, than filtering. Because ladies can often be persuaded to do what you want. Even ladies who do A+ now, probably didn't do A+ when they first started out. They changed their minds at some point in time and started doing A+ with guys. And the same thing goes for two-cumshots.
    Personally Dan I have no desire to persuade. I want an experienced gal with a very good skill set that is doing things of her own volition and better yet, enjoys them and enjoys playing with a man.

  3. #12945
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    To chime in on the anal sex discussion, in the oilies, asking for anal is useful as a filter.
    ....
    Asking about most other sexual activities is useless. For instance, if promised BBBJ or even a deep BJ, she can deliver a token 20-sec lick with poor attitude and call it quits (she technically delivered). With A+, there's not much leeway, she accepts to be screwed up the ass at the customer's discretion.
    ....
    Other useful filters (mostly for freelancers / bargirls) are asking for a two-shot ST session ....
    I'd say that both A+ and two-cumshots are ways to ensure that your sex will last for some time with the lady.

    The thing about professional P4P ladies is that most of them know how to make a guy cum quickly and render him unable to perform. And then they can just take it easy with the guy for the rest of their session with him. You need something like A+ or multiple-cumshots to get around this trick and nail the sexy chick real good with your dick.

    Even an experienced P4P lady probably can't get you off quickly with her ass. She needs you to take your time with her and do it nice and slow. This is one sex-act where the lady won't hurry you up and finish quickly with you. And the same goes for two-cumshots. The lady can get you off quickly alright for your first cumshot. But then your balls are empty, and it's going to take some time for you to work up your second cumshot with her. You are going to be hard, you are going to be fast, and you are going to last with her for some time.

    But I'd say that 'filtering' might not be a good way to do it. This should be more like bargaining, than filtering. Because ladies can often be persuaded to do what you want. Even ladies who do A+ now, probably didn't do A+ when they first started out. They changed their minds at some point in time and started doing A+ with guys. And the same thing goes for two-cumshots.

  4. #12944
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    To chime in on the anal sex discussion, in the oilies, asking for anal is useful as a filter.

    Girls accepting anal sex are likely to provide a better overall experience, or at least be more compliant than those who don't. If they take A+, they sure won't refuse a decent BBBJ (deep and long, more than a token lick), won't make a fuss about DFK, DATY a bit of fingering and all the vanilla activities.

    I'm not all that much into anal (though change of sensation can be pleasant sometimes), but ask for A+ girls at oilies specifically to weed out the weak performers. It works.

    Asking about most other sexual activities is useless. For instance, if promised BBBJ or even a deep BJ, she can deliver a token 20-sec lick with poor attitude and call it quits (she technically delivered). With A+, there's not much leeway, she accepts to be screwed up the ass at the customer's discretion.

    Back in the old days, when sessions were cheaper and most girls would have a friendly attitude and perform the vanilla activities reasonably well, there was less need for such filters.

    Other useful filters (mostly for freelancers / bargirls) are asking for a two-shot ST session and going a bit further, not to the nearest ST hotel. If they're unhappy about this, you know for sure they'll do the minimum required and be anxious to get back in the quickest time possible. In my view, they can try to negotiate the rate up if they want (though I'm fair with the first offer, so it's still a bad sign), but if they ever try to negotiate down these requirements, it's an instant rejection.
    Could not agree more. Making sure they are A+ is a great filter at the oilies. And your FL filters are ones that I have used as well. Works quite well to weed out the chaff.

    Yep, when sessions were 500-1 k (12.50 - 25 USD) at the time with FLs I really did not care about filtering out that much. For that money almost any offs a good off. But now when I am paying close to 3 times that in an oily, I want to make sure I am going to get a good performance.

  5. #12943
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelSamuel  [View Original Post]
    Ended up choosing an M class girl, M7, for 5800. I should have tried to make a note of more of the pricing, but M was 5800. Time is 75 minutes I think? Definitely more than an hour. Are was listed at either 4500 or 4800. I am pretty sure I only paid 4100 in November as I backed the math out against my credit card charge so this still seems suspect to me. .
    Thanks for the FR Michael. I had visited Lords in November and the prices have indeed increased. I remember paying 5400 baht but it was for an "O" category girl. All category of girls prices were ending at 400 starting from M till XL. It seems that not only have they increased the prices to end at 800 across categories but have also changed the category alphabets. M was the beginning range at 3400 during my visit. I had a lady Mamasan to assist me during the entire process and the line up was thin comprising of 10 to 12 girls around 8 pm.

    The time I got with the girl was 90 minutes per session and now seems to have also been reduced to approx 75 minutes as per your experience. The supposed changes don't seem to have done for the better, never have been in the mongering world.

  6. #12942
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Do you have any explanation? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me why it should be so. More likely their pussy was tight enough to satisfy partners, and therefore the men requested it more.

    I quite like fucking not so tight pussies. Girls with babies are fine for me. An ass grips only at the sphincter. A pussy can have better grip along entire length of the shaft.
    I am not a doctor, so I don't have a scientific answer to this. I say this from experience only. I wasn't talking about girls being more willing to have anal to please their partner but anal for their own pleasure.

    Maybe it's because they have gone through the "pain" of childbirth so they are more willing to try the "pain" of anal, or maybe because after having a baby their vaginas have become less sensitive. I also know a case or two of women who couldn't orgasm from vaginal sex until they gave birth.

    One girl at Addict told me specifically that after having her kid, she prefers anal.

    Nopo

  7. #12941

    Anal Sex as a filter

    To chime in on the anal sex discussion, in the oilies, asking for anal is useful as a filter.

    Girls accepting anal sex are likely to provide a better overall experience, or at least be more compliant than those who don't. If they take A+, they sure won't refuse a decent BBBJ (deep and long, more than a token lick), won't make a fuss about DFK, DATY a bit of fingering and all the vanilla activities.

    I'm not all that much into anal (though change of sensation can be pleasant sometimes), but ask for A+ girls at oilies specifically to weed out the weak performers. It works.

    Asking about most other sexual activities is useless. For instance, if promised BBBJ or even a deep BJ, she can deliver a token 20-sec lick with poor attitude and call it quits (she technically delivered). With A+, there's not much leeway, she accepts to be screwed up the ass at the customer's discretion.

    Back in the old days, when sessions were cheaper and most girls would have a friendly attitude and perform the vanilla activities reasonably well, there was less need for such filters.

    Other useful filters (mostly for freelancers / bargirls) are asking for a two-shot ST session and going a bit further, not to the nearest ST hotel. If they're unhappy about this, you know for sure they'll do the minimum required and be anxious to get back in the quickest time possible. In my view, they can try to negotiate the rate up if they want (though I'm fair with the first offer, so it's still a bad sign), but if they ever try to negotiate down these requirements, it's an instant rejection.

  8. #12940
    Needed a good massage recently on a Sunday and decided for EZ2 having had a look at their website.

    Turned out only 3 girls available mid afternoon.

    Choose Ying from booklet. Damage thb 2200.

    She was not very enthusiastic although nice girl.

    Would not repeat.

  9. #12939
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    But, according to your earlier conjecture, since men / punters have been exposed to those activites in porn for quite some time now, they ought to be wildly popular or at the very least as frequently mentioned and sought out on boards like these as anal sex is. However, they are not. I don't think I have read even one post asking where to find such activities. Which again argues against your exposure to porn first, interest and experimentation afterwards theory.
    Shhh...don't go around making too much sense! People don't like that...lol.
    I should probably go around mass murdering people since I watch so many action movies. The movies are obviously forcing me to seek out such things(sarcasm). Such drivel...

  10. #12938
    Quote Originally Posted by NopoProwler  [View Original Post]
    In my experience, women who have given birth to a baby are more prone to liking anal sex than women who haven't.
    Do you have any explanation? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me why it should be so. More likely their pussy was tight enough to satisfy partners, and therefore the men requested it more.

    I quite like fucking not so tight pussies. Girls with babies are fine for me. An ass grips only at the sphincter. A pussy can have better grip along entire length of the shaft.

  11. #12937

    Quick BKK trip. SW, Boss, and Lord

    Had a quick 9 night trip to LOS with my first visit to Pattaya which I will post in that forum. All the BKK time was spoken for with regulars but had a few opportunities to slip out and hit the MPs. I meant to book Benz before my flight but didn't have time so called in the taxi on the way in from the airport and she actually answered the phone so was easy enough to setup a 2 HR Bangkok welcome. She is definitely my favorite PSE girl right now. Professional, fun, and great service. She was wonderful in a 2 hour session willing to accommodate me in any request. After another great session and a perfect welcome after 20 hours of flights she definitely earned her tip. I didn't get to see much else what they had on offer, but actually spotted candy on the way out and didn't remember her face from last time and asked her name. Guess my tastes are consistent. One thing that was different was that this time they only collected 800 downstairs instead of the full fare. Been a while since this was the case and had to think about what the girl's "tip" was supposed to be. Benz confirmed it was 1500. So for 2300 + tip this is still a great bargain for the service to me.

    Before meeting up with regular #2, who actually got the boot at the end of this trip, I slipped away to Lord on Sunday afternoon. Lineup was about 18 strong. I didn't spot Ae from before which was good since I figured I would end up choosing her again and I wanted to sample something different without burning that bridge since I still communicate with her on Line. Took some time to make a selection as there were enough girls to have a few minutes to think. Mamasan produced a price list which seemed higher for the are class girls than it was in November but she insisted it wasn't? A quick note that while we all dislike the faces buried in cell phones I have decided that in cases like this it is a good thing since a girl who is more interested in you isn't going to burry herself in the cell phone and makes eliminating some choices very easy. Ended up choosing an M class girl, M7, for 5800. Honestly I am not sure I realized how hot she was until we were back in the room, but she was smoking. Half thai half Burmese beauty. Service was excellent and she was much more go with the flow than my previous girl who stuck to stricter routine. Some nice DFK really made the session for me, though she says she doesn't do for everyone so I will take it as my lucky day. Performance was great with many positions and no complaints. Would definitely repeat with this one. I should have tried to make a note of more of the pricing, but M was 5800. Time is 75 minutes I think? Definitely more than an hour. Are was listed at either 4500 or 4800. I am pretty sure I only paid 4100 in November as I backed the math out against my credit card charge so this still seems suspect to me. I had a male papason before and an older woman this time. Again facilities are excellent and I will certainly return. Sure it's on the pricey side, but so far I am 2 for 2 and good sessions and was nice the girls had more English in both cases. I think of it a lot like eating in Bangkok, sometimes you want street food for a meal and sometimes a nicer candle lit dinner.

    My last opportunity to sample something outside my regular girl #2 was early in the day. Just around 12:30 so I knew my choices would be limited. Was staying at the emporium suites (ok place, but definitely not 5 star for bkk) so the soi 24 shops were very close. Did a walk through but didn't see much, only a couple girls outside orient. BTW, construction on the new place that replaced Touch of Class looks complete. Outside got a modern facelift, but I didn't see any girls that enticed me to go in. Headed down to 24/1 which I previously identified as soi 26, but realize now that was wrong as it is 24/1 just is closer to 26 than to 24. Did a one-time pass then a second to check out the girls I saw at boss which pulled me in. With all the girls lined up I went for the double, I knew it would be a relative waste, but I hadn't ever done a double in Bangkok and was short on time so when I saw another girl I liked as well decided why not? I can't recall either's name and Boss doesn't have a website, but neither girl was anything special so no loss there. Damage was 4 k for 1. 5 hours. Girl #1 had short hair, nice skinny figure, 24, girl #2 was skinny and young looking, turned out she was only 20. Both from Issan of course, hahaha. As expected that didn't interact with each other at all so really it was more like having 2 girls to share the duties, but it was as I expected so I enjoyed getting to do two cuties in one session and switching back and forth, with condom switches as well. Definitely need some pharmaceutical enhancement when switching condoms this often. Bunch of different positions for each and enjoyed having one riding while playing with the other. They should probably have a bigger room and bed for 2 girls though. Damage was 4 k. Was it worth it? No, but I enjoyed myself and was still fun with 2 cuties. The one with the dark, shorter (just shoulder length), nice legs, would be one to take on a single session if you are checking out the lineup. She definitely worked harder on top and was the one to finish me off.

  12. #12936
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Yes we have had the odd poster seeking all those activities.
    Oh, well I guess that clinches it then; since they have appeared in certain niche porn videos for decades and the odd poster on this site has asked about them, bukkake, cum swapping and other spectacle type sexual activities must now be as popular and sought out by Thai P4 P customers because they were exposed to them in porn as anal sex appears to be on this site. Ha Ha!

  13. #12935

    Sandy at Snow White

    I went to Addict but it was too early so the line-up was small, and I walked out. Got to do that every once in a while otherwise they would think they own my business.

    I walked around, but nothing caught my eye, so I entered Snow White. Not many girls either, but one was looking at me with naughty eyes so I took her.

    Her name was Sandy. Not super pretty, but OK with the lights in the bedroom dimmed. Nice piece of ass, though. And a real sl*t who likes to fuck long and hard.

    The shower was pretty sensual. Then I lay on my stomach and soon enough she was rimming me. Now that's a real PSE shop! Then I flipped, BBBJ, and then I asked for a condom.

    She started on top, then got tired pretty quickly, which is understandable given how energetically she was humping me, so I banged her missionary and did most of the work.

    A few more positions, and then I asked for CIM, which she obviously acquiesced to.

    Overall, a good PSE experience. She only knows two speeds for banging: faster and fastest. I prefer a bit more variety and alternating with slow sensual strokes. But she didn't rush me and she kept on going like a real trooper.

    Would I recommend? Well, she wasn't really a stunner, so I hesitate to recommend. Would I repeat? Not with her, but Snow White maybe once in a while for its PSE-trained girls.

  14. #12934
    Quote Originally Posted by ThugDada  [View Original Post]
    Went to Manggo Massage for the 1st time last week.

    This is the worst sexprience in BKK of mine.

    Ask the mamasan, do anyone do anal. Only a few. And one good looking girl named "D".

    No blowjob, only CBJ.

    No kiss.

    But massage is OK.

    Not going back there anymore. LOL.
    Don't throw out the baby with the bath water. A bad girl can exist in any shop. You name the girl to help others avoid. I still go to Mango.

    In the past even had the odd crap girl at Tulip.

  15. #12933
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    But, according to your earlier conjecture, since men / punters have been exposed to those activites in porn for quite some time now, they ought to be wildly popular or at the very least as frequently mentioned and sought out on boards like these as anal sex is. However, they are not. I don't think I have read even one post asking where to find such activities. Which again argues against your exposure to porn first, interest and experimentation afterwards theory.
    Yes we have had the odd poster seeking all those activities.

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