German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[Shark16]

Very roughly you could say the clubs in Hessen are basically FKK Clubs (fully nude) while the NRW Clubs are not FKK Clubs but "Sauna Clubs" with most girls wearing lingerie or some other kind of skimpy outfits.

There are all kinds of exeptions to the rule of course:
- In the NRW there are a couple of (fully nude) FKK Clubs like Bernd's, and many other clubs have 1- 2 (all nude) FKK days a week. I will let the NRW vets be more precise with details.
- In Hessen the FKK Clubs usually have one "lingerie" day a week ("dessoustag") like Sharks on Tuesdays and Oase on Thursdays.

I like that you say "fully nude", because if you want to be even more precise we have to admit that even some of the Hessen FKK Clubs have permitted too much clothing lately (like fishnet tops, garter belts, and some girls even wear bras or g-strings / thongs. On my last trip I even saw a girl wearing both g-string AND a bra. Terrible! Terrible!). Palace has a bad rep in this respect. So, if you want my vote for which clubs take nudity seriously in the way a genuine FKK Club was meant to be, then it goes to Bernd's and World. Female dress code in a FKK Club is high heels. Period. Ok, maybe with additon of some "come-see-me-at-midnight" stockings. But that's it!

I once observed the thekefrau at Bernd's scolding a girl for wearing a see-through fishnet top. She would have none of that. What can I say ... what a job!

[Clodius1]

Hello everyone,

So far I have enjoyed PSR, ACA, and GT, but I still haven't found a FKK in Germany where girls are completely nude. Please throw some names out there for me. I understand that the totally nude FKKs sometimes have lingerie days, but I can work around those days.

Thanks!

[SwingerLover]

And I disagree with you putting words in my mouth. I didn't say a thing one way or the other about "sex other than oral sex".

I'm sorry I phrased my comment so poorly, it was not intended to put words in your mouth. It was your sentence "A condom should not be required for oral sex!" that put my off a little, because in the particular thread, almost everything regarding the planned "law" seems to revolve around nothing other than BBBJs. If that would be all to be worried about, then it's no use worrying at all, since BBBJs are still available in Bavaria after nearly 15 years of "condum-duty". My comment was more intended towards the direction you described yourself here:

My comment was focused specifically on the law as it would apply to BBBJs because that's where the major concern appears to be among the majority of this particular crowd. I happen to agree with you that consenting adults ought to be able to do what they want as long as nobody is being physically or mentally abused.

I'm sorry you took my phrasing the wrong way, so I apologize for causing any misunderstanding. Friends again?

[Wild Man]

http://www.thelocal.fr/20160202/six-...swingers-clubs

I know this is about French swingers clubs but as the FKK scene is a fine example of western decadence it's certainly food for thought.

Given that their brother savages behind the No vember attacks rationalized them in part as an attack on a culture of decadence by infidels, imagine drinking alcohol and women unveiled out and about in public, it was a near certainty that Swingers clubs, brothels and gay bars would be targets for these absolute loons!

BTW in French swingers clubs if the authorities get the slightest hint there are sex for money sessions there, they will be closed immediately!

[Citizen Kane]

http://www.thelocal.fr/20160202/six-...swingers-clubs

I know this is about French swingers clubs but as the FKK scene is a fine example of western decadence it's certainly food for thought.

[Wild Man]

They were never welcome in the first place because they are NOT refugees, but illegal immigrants. Someone who travelled through 6-7 secure countries can't be a refugee anymore once he arrives at the German border. (Provided that he was ever in danger at all back home.).

Bavaria has already filed a lawsuit against Merkel's Bullshit "asylum' practices.

Good questions. The word is that the delayed start should give people a longer transition period to prepare for it.

I see that Irish media is not much better than the one in Germany. Only half-truths an dinnuendo as well. Forget it.
The Green pest plant has indeed announced to block this "law" in the Bundesrat. But that's moot, since after the 3 Landtags-elections on March 16th, the Green weed will no longer have a majority in the Bundesrat, because they will no longer be part of the "government"s in Baden-Wrttemberg and Rhineland-Palatinate. (And will not gain a majority in Saxony-Anhalt either.)...

We must always remain vigilant on matters like this! It is very bad news that The Greens are likely to be less significant in the Bundesrat, after some state elections, as this was one important avenue to block this sort of madness! Also when and if a similar type law is introduced, it may be even more repressive than just banning BBBJ.

[Exodus8]

They were never welcome in the first place because they are NOT refugees, but illegal immigrants. Someone who travelled through 6-7 secure countries can't be a refugee anymore once he arrives at the German border. (Provided that he was ever in danger at all back home.).

Bavaria has already filed a lawsuit against Merkel's Bullshit "asylum' practices.

I agree with you 100%. I read in the newspaper these rapefugees sexually assault young women and beat old men that try to help, women get raped at carnival in Cologne etc.

Merkel has made Germany unsafe especially for women of all ages.

I will not discuss more of this here since it about something else.

[PussyLiccker]

I just finished simmering seven GT hotties in less than 48 hours. All the wellness in GT isn't enough to keep up with this kind of pace. GT is like Disneyland for mongers! Most bears are regulars to this club, and they all have their favorite girls. But the LU today had a ton of new girls. I got this information from both mongers and talking to the girls too. There was a delay of 30 min for a room key today, but I used the time wisely with my girl and it paid off, super GFE dividends. Some guys don't wait for room, instead they prefer to use the kino, bang one out with a 8/9 GT hottie like Caligula!

You beat my last trip's two days visit! 5 sessions for me, but I beat you on my last marathon of 10 sessions! That was 10 session at GT(in two days! Yeah, I'm nuts.), and that didn't even include Aca. That was a memorable visit, and last one wasn't bad either.

What you say might be an on going trend currently at GT after a bit of a stall. Always welcoming to see new visiting girls at GT after some of the more long termers have passed on I believe. I've noticed it on a Nov visit, so it's quit possible that the trend has continued when you have visited, bringing in some new visiting girls.

[Clodius1]

Darn you. I had just about talked myself into skipping GT for convenience and then you posted this.

I just finished simmering seven GT hotties in less than 48 hours. All the wellness in GT isn't enough to keep up with this kind of pace. GT is like Disneyland for mongers! Most bears are regulars to this club, and they all have their favorite girls. But the LU today had a ton of new girls. I got this information from both mongers and talking to the girls too. There was a delay of 30 min for a room key today, but I used the time wisely with my girl and it paid off, super GFE dividends. Some guys don't wait for room, instead they prefer to use the kino, bang one out with a 8/9 GT hottie like Caligula!

[Clodius1]

Not the general ACA review we're accustomed to but it's good to hear other opinions, good or bad. Curious how many girls you spoke with because the Romanians I talk to at ACA all speak English very well. ACA usually keeps the weaker speaking Romanians at their sister club, Penelope. Agree the Hungarians do not speak English well. The no-approach club can be awkward for those not used to it. I'm not a shy person so no issue for me. Agree wellness is non-existent at ACA but I'm not there for saunas and pools.

OK I really have to revisit PSR. I miss these "friendly" clubs like how PHG and Samya 2012 used to be. I've always thought PSR would be a great hang out for Optimist. What is your estimate for the number of girls there and what day of the week did you go?

I got to PSR early on Saturday, did a quick pan and scan, then left for a rendezvous at TL with Laura. I'll spare you the details of that fiasco with Laura at TL. Anyway, I returned back to PSR a few hours later. Traffic at PSR had picked up, def more bears and girls there towards late afternoon and evening. I'd guess that the LU was maybe 20-25 girls, but only 4-5 of them were GT quality. Service level GFE w DFK not extra, girls friendly and do approach but very easy going, not sharky. Fellow mongers really good guys, mostly locals but I felt very welcome there. Best food so far. Would definitely repeat.

[Member #4581]

I thought I have seen my share of absurdity in life, but you managed to surprise me.

A law (which may be in draft, which you have not seen, can't read w / o translation and have no clue if it will pass or not, changed into something else or not, implemented or not as currently rumored) will be a DEATH SENTENCE to a man thousands of miles away.

Wow, that Merkel and her legislative pals have a lot on their shoulder.

I sincerely hope you are more balanced than this, and what you wrote below was in jest. For your sake.

Man! You do not understand how this law affect my life quality LOL; That is why, on other end of the world, I am getting crazy over this! That I cannot even concentrate on my daily activities LOL; This is like death sentence to me ...

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I am in nervous breakdown over this that I cannot concentrate here LOL I need my BBBJ! LOL.

[The Cane]

And I disagree with you on where it should be required: It shouldn't be required at any kind of sex if the people who are having the sex don't want to use rubbers.

And I disagree with you putting words in my mouth. I didn't say a thing one way or the other about "sex other than oral sex". My comment was focused specifically on the law as it would apply to BBBJs because that's where the major concern appears to be among the majority of this particular crowd. I happen to agree with you that consenting adults ought to be able to do what they want as long as nobody is being physically or mentally abused. If that means never using condoms for anything, then so be it. No need for you to tell me what I believe. I'm quite capable of doing that for myself.

Thank you.

[SwingerLover]

For MrHo, happy German VolksMusik to cheer you up. Don't ask me how I ran across them, but it seems to be southern music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8n_g5eTDRQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4aVsjELyi8

Yes, that's Bavaria at it's worst regarding music!

[SwingerLover]

Well Germany have more serious issues to deal with than a new law I. E. Rapefugees, LOL.

They are not willkommen anymore

They were never welcome in the first place because they are NOT refugees, but illegal immigrants. Someone who travelled through 6-7 secure countries can't be a refugee anymore once he arrives at the German border. (Provided that he was ever in danger at all back home.).

Bavaria has already filed a lawsuit against Merkel's Bullshit "asylum' practices.

The proposed law is so completely absurd re Condom 'Duty', it beggars the question. Will dental dams have to be used for cunnilingus? And if it's so vital why wait until July 2017 to introduce it?

Good questions. The word is that the delayed start should give people a longer transition period to prepare for it.

This brief article on the proposed new German law from an online Irish Newspaper -.

http://www.thejournal.ie/germany-ros...81566-Feb2016/

Obviously, it still hasn't been voted on and has the status of 'draft' law at the moment! Green Party opposition could still force it down at Bundesrat Level!

I see that Irish media is not much better than the one in Germany. Only half-truths an dinnuendo as well. Forget it.
The Green pest plant has indeed announced to block this "law" in the Bundesrat. But that's moot, since after the 3 Landtags-elections on March 16th, the Green weed will no longer have a majority in the Bundesrat, because they will no longer be part of the "government"s in Baden-Wrttemberg and Rhineland-Palatinate. (And will not gain a majority in Saxony-Anhalt either.)

That pisses me off! The required use of condoms (although it doesn't say if this is true for oral sex too).
A condom should not be required for oral sex!

It's supposed to apply to all forms of prostitution, which includes oral. And I disagree with you on where it should be required: It shouldn't be required at any kind of sex if the people who are having the sex don't want to use rubbers. And this "condom duty" is surely one of the reasons why this "law" will be nullified once somebody challenges it in a court of law. (Provided that it gets passed at all.).

Which brings us to this:

Is this final now? Then, I have to switch to other country.

Did this law on BBBJ passed or? Is it another BS by media to get our attention

Can't you fucking read? What did I write just a few postes below?

They already wrote a lot of Bullshit on this subject matter nearly a year and a half ago, so why should they be believable now. I'm waiting on the text of an actual draft law now, before that I don't believe anything the German mass-media-hoors report.
I'm also certain that this 'law' will either be invalid right from the start or will get invalidated by a court of law once somebody challenges it.

Why do I even bother continuing to keep writing anything at all on this subject matter?
Do me a favour, MrHo, quit spamming the forum with your Bullshit and don't comment on this matter anymore before late June 2017!

lost ww2 and our legal blue print basis were written by Allies nations.

That's the only decent thing you wrote in the past days.
And this fact you stated will be another reason for the invalidity of this "law".

I don't understand all this premature handwringing about this law. First of all, except the few German posters, most people don't even understand whether this is a draft, a law, something in between, etc etc. Few seem to have seen the actual wording of the full draft or proposal or whatever it is, anyway among the ones posting here, especially w / o (lost in) translation. Also, most people here don't know how the German legislative process is supposed to work, what is the current political landscape like, who is for / against, the odds of passing, if the draft morphs into something else as it goes through the process, etc. All that we have seen are a few links to media articles which might or might not be accurate, and over the years I have realized I trust media to my own peril. And we don't know how it gets implemented, how it will be policed, what fines if any, and how rigorously it will be truly executed in practice. Too many unknowns. Why all these premature declarations "Omg, I will skip Germany" etc? You might very well be wrong, this could be watered down, and you might change your mind in the end.

Thanks, man. Finally somebody else who puts it into words how stupid it is to jump out of your pants 17 months prematurely about something that doesn't even exist. Thanks for your report!

Wow. Again and again there's discussion about a law that hasn't yet passed and is not yet in place. It's more than 15 months to go. Relax and let's see the final version, the discussion around it and don't panic.

Thanks to you to, Bub. That reply was right on spot as well.

[Katinka]

Fellow mongers,


Golden Time GT in Bruggen. By all the Gods, this place is paradise! Girls are all hotties, great mix of nationalities, plenty of German girls. Girls are friendly and will approach, but not too aggressively, perfect. Wellness is excellent, indoor hot tub and sauna and masseuse. Kino has plenty of action. During the day, good balance of guys and girls. Lots of dudes from just across the border, middle aged, good conversations between sessions. So far, this is my "go to" club, will be repeating, a lot! They do have a trio of tough looking bouncers, probably Ru, that act as gate keepers to the club. No problem for me though! If you can, you should come and enjoy.

Darn you. I had just about talked myself into skipping GT for convenience and then you posted this.