Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Soldierb11]

Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)"

But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc).

-Cartman.

First of all, I've never said fuck you Cartman I will do what I want. It's not my style. You have valuable insight and guidance and I consider it before I make my decisions just like I consider other people's opinions and advice too. I then however make up my own course of action. I've never even argued with you or said you are wrong because you really aren't. I just choose to walk my own path in life.

Second of all if you bothered to read the subsequent reports I paid 300/400/350/350 so quite in line with market rates.

[Soldierb11]

I arrived at 1130 with the intention of enjoying a little striptease and trying to get a few numbers. I entered and it was a meat market in reverse. At least 80 girls and less than 10 guys. There were actually a few catcalls or whatever it's called when girls call out to guys as I was led to my table. The price of admittance is 80 reais and for that I got two caipirinhas. Additional caipirinhas were 25 each.

No matter what your taste you would probably find something to your liking you might not like the price though. Be prepared for sticker shock. But there was everything available short girls, tall ones, fake tits / natural tits, black girls, white girls, morenas, and even a few fat ugly girls for you chubby chasers. Very pressured sales approach though. As new guys entered a small pack of hyenas would surround them and have to literally be beaten away.

I had a girl who didn't leave my side for two hours despite my best attempts to ignore her. The first hour I tried ignoring her to no success. I should've just told her to get lost but I didn't. The second hour I thought I would change tactics and start groping her without buying her a drink. Weird thing was she never asked for a drink the whole night. We then began some LFK and I continued with groping her ass. Still wouldn't leave. I finally decided to be nice and I bought her a drink 55 reais for vodka / red bull. I had already asked the waiter about the prices so I knew ahead of time how expensive it would be.

She brought up the prices and said girls get maybe 600 reais and sometimes up to 1000. I gave her a quizzical look and she said again, "yes 600 maybe one thousand maybe two thousand" that got her the "are you fucking kidding me look" and she answered "no 2000 me like make joking" I kinda doubt she was joking. I also couldn't hear her well to understand if Barbarella gets a fee too. The only chick I've ever taken from Barbarella was a real hot and would spend the night with me on her night off Tuesday.

Overall a lot of talent at Barbarella but be prepared for big prices. Attitude of girls hard to say since I spent 95% of my time with the clingy one but my guess is most will be a bit mercenary like.

[ForceSteeler]

One thing that first-time or occasional visitors to Rio / Brazil are not aware of is this: the vast majority of GDPs (girls) are connected and either know each other directly, or know each other indirectly.

They all join each other's facebook pages, accumulating "friends" from their co-workers over time in termas, in privees, as escorts etc.

They also *all* -- and I mean *all* -- participate in What'sApp groups. For those not familiar with What'sApp groups (particularly people in the USA and Europe or Asia where it's not as popular as Brazil), it is an Instant Messaging smartphone app that *everyone* in Brazil uses for messaging.

For the past 3-4 years, what's app consistently has been in the top 4 most-downloaded apps in Brazil. Only recently (like last 3+ months) has Snapchat even cracked the Top 10.

So these girls all join What'sApp chat groups that have hundreds of GDP members where they trade stories about clients, silly stuff like dick pics, GIFs, etc.

If you think the girls are not talking about you, you are wrong. I gave a Victoria's Secret gift bag to a favorite the other day, and noticed she immediately posted it to a What'sApp Group along with another similar bag of goodies that another client gave her.

I saw this because another GDP, in the same group, showed it to me even though the doesn't know the girl I gave it to, or that I gave it to her. (Or so I think. I'm probably wrong LOL).

My point is this: the girls *do* share stories and talk. This is one reason that GPguia is such a powerful tool for guys (along with other forums), but GPguia in particular because of its rating system and tons of reviews on indepedents / escorts.

It gives you a powerful tool to understand "market price" and how girls behave. Obi-wan Patmar has poured over forums here in Brazil like a viagra-laced Yoda reading Jedi holocrons, and look at him today -- he is the top take-down artist operating in Rio, IMHO.

Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)" or "please feel free to keep overpaying (GDP type x) as long as you don't overpay (GDP type y)", you are missing the fact that the girls will end up sharing all your behavior and it can hurt the market for the rest of us -- whether long time residents or newbies.

Yes, one person's overpaying will get shared to a What'sApp group with 300+ GDPs. It will. Can I guarantee that such sharing will encourage other girls to ask outrageous things as well? No. But it sure is more than likely.

Again, I know people just don't care. It's my analogy below about the guys who leave the lights and AC on in our conference rooms, because they don't have to pay the company's electric bill. They are selfish pricks who don't give a shit, and then whine if they can't get more free cookies in the break room or that 20% raise, when the company's budget can't handle it.

Or it's the guy who pisses in the pool and gets out -- a nice warm experience for him, but not so great for the other swimmers and / or the next guy who dives in.

But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc).

I do so in the sense of helping others. When you overpay or pay up front, you are not helping others. You are not helping your brothers in arms on this board.

You are helping (at best) only yourself.

Again, I know people don't care. I debated with myself about 30 minutes about writing this. This is my last word on the subject, as arguing with folks on the internet is about as worthwhile as trying to convince Trump to give up the comb-over.

I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month. Brazil is literally in its worst economic downturn in years.

More than 1. 54 million people were fired in 2015 as companies tried to cut costs to stay afloat, with many more expected in 2016: http://g1.globo.com/globo-news/jorna...-1992/4754061/.

Bear that in mind when some GDP has the audacity to ask you for BRL 600 or 700 or 800 for an hour or 2 of her company. Just because you're thirsty doesn't mean you should fork over USD 25 for a bottle of water, even if you think it's Evian or Perrier. I guarantee you it's not the only, nor the best tasting, bottle of water in the store. (Sure, Disneyland will try to charge you some crazy price -- but that's scarcity value, you're trapped in their park for 8 hours with screaming kids. There is *no* scarcity value in Brazil for GDPs. Literally. It is the definition of abundance mentality).

-Cartman.

I don't think its just Brazil. Women talk a lot period. They have the same Chica Network like in Sousa Dominican Republic, Columbia and or when you go to Asia (Philippines / Thailand). They all discuss there clients, Who has a big dick, who is cheap, what happen last night in the bedroom, they all talk and share pictures.

But its no different from the average monger, We do the same thing, we go on Forums / Blogs and discuss working girls, Who is good in bed? Which ones to avoid, its the same thing they do we also talk a lot too, So it goes hand and hand.

[Eric Cartman]

One thing that first-time or occasional visitors to Rio / Brazil often are not aware of (and that even some seasoned veterans sometimes refuse to believe) is this: the vast majority of GDPs (girls) are connected and either know each other directly, or know each other indirectly.

They all join each other's facebook pages, accumulating "friends" from their co-workers over time in termas, in privees, as escorts etc. They also *all* -- and I mean *all* -- participate in What'sApp groups. For those not familiar with What'sApp groups (particularly people in the USA and Europe or Asia where it's not as popular as Brazil), it is an Instant Messaging smartphone app that *everyone* in Brazil uses for messaging.

For the past 3-4 years, what's app consistently has been in the top 4 most-downloaded apps in Brazil. Only recently (like last 3+ months) has Snapchat even cracked the Top 10. So these girls all join What'sApp chat groups that have hundreds of GDP members where they trade stories about clients, silly stuff like dick pics, GIFs, etc.

If you think the girls are not talking about you, you are wrong. I gave a Victoria's Secret gift bag to a favorite the other day, and noticed she immediately posted it to a What'sApp Group along with another similar bag of goodies that another client gave her.

I saw this because another GDP, in the same group, showed it to me even though the doesn't know the girl I gave it to, or that I gave it to her. (Or so I think. I'm probably wrong LOL).

My point is this: the girls *do* share stories and talk. This is one reason that GPguia is such a powerful tool for guys (along with other forums), but GPguia in particular because of its rating system and tons of reviews on indepedents / escorts. It gives you a powerful tool to understand "market price" and how girls behave. Obi-wan Patmar has poured over forums here in Brazil like a viagra-laced Yoda reading Jedi holocrons, and look at him today -- he is the top take-down artist operating in Rio, IMHO.

Which brings me back to this: when people say "Hey fuck you, Cartman, I'll pay what I want (or how I want)" or "please feel free to keep overpaying (GDP type x) as long as you don't overpay (GDP type y)", you are missing (or worse, willfully ignoring) the fact that the girls will end up sharing all your behavior and it can hurt the market for the rest of us -- whether long time residents or newbies.

Yes, one person's overpaying will get shared to a What'sApp group with 300+ GDPs. It will. Probably with an "rsrsrs" or "kkkkkkkkk" at the end of it. Can I guarantee that such sharing will encourage other girls to ask outrageous things as well? No. But it sure is more than likely.

Again, I know people just don't care. It's my analogy below about the guys who leave the lights and AC on in our conference rooms, because they don't have to pay the company's electric bill. They are selfish pricks who don't give a shit, and then whine if they can't get more free cookies in the break room or that 20% raise, when the company's budget can't handle it. Or it's the guy who pisses in the pool and gets out -- a nice warm experience for him, but not so great for the other swimmers and / or the next guy who dives in.

But I try to offer helpful advice here (don't pay up front, don't pay more than BRL $300-$500 for an escort unless she's doing bareback anal and making you breakfast at the same time, etc). I'm not saying only pay BRL 70 for girls you pull out of VM. I'm trying to orient you to the market and not overpay -- you're certainly welcome to pay less.

I do so in the sense of helping others. When you overpay or pay up front, you are not helping others. You are not helping your brothers in arms on this board. You are helping (at best) only yourself.

I wrote this post with some helpful info in it (at least I think) to at least stay true to the goal. On that note, some final context: the minimum wage in Brazil in 2016 is BRL 880 per month. Brazil is literally in its worst economic downturn in years.

More than 1. 54 million people were fired in 2015 as companies tried to cut costs to stay afloat, with many more expected in 2016: http://g1.globo.com/globo-news/jorna...-1992/4754061/.

Bear that in mind when some GDP has the audacity to ask you for BRL 600 or 700 or 800 for an hour or 2 of her company. Just because you're thirsty doesn't mean you should fork over USD 25 for a bottle of water, even if you think it's Evian or Perrier. I guarantee you it's not the only, nor the best tasting, bottle of water in the store. (Sure, Disneyland will try to charge you some crazy price -- but that's scarcity value, you're trapped in their park for 8 hours with screaming kids. There is *no* scarcity value in Brazil for GDPs. Literally. It is the definition of abundance mentality).

Again, I know people don't care. I debated with myself about 30 minutes about writing this. This is my last word on the subject, as arguing with folks on the internet is about as worthwhile as trying to get Trump to give up the comb-over. "Your reasoned argument and clever Facebook posts have convinced me to change my opinion" -- said nobody on the internet *ever.*

-Cartman.

[Tracer]

I appreciate the reports. You are correct that it is a different demand for the occasional visitor and the resident expats. I really value the input of the regulars here and try to model their patterns, but it is challenging in a short time frame and with limited language skills. Hell, even the termas are a challenge without speaking Portuguese. That is precisely why I have experimented more with escorts lately. Clearly, the prives are the best value I have found for good quality. However, I think an escort with a good location and English skills is worth the extra money on occasion.

"Don't be shook, don't be scared" LOL. In what part of anything I wrote showed that I was scared or too shook up? I survived 5 combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. It takes a bit to rattle my nerves. I choose not to negotiate because I don't have to. I receive two checks a month from the government that are more than enough to sustain me and the things I like to do and if I feel I need a little more I just moonlight at a hospital in the States and make a shit load more. I know very god damn well that escorts are a mixed bag with photoshopped pictures, false claims about English ability and more. But I choose to try escorts this trip just to roll the dice and try something new.

I also noticed there weren't any escort reviews here in months if not years and I thought some of the tourists like myself would like a little Intel. Apparently this is true since I received 11 PMs in the last 24 hours asking about certain girls. In the last 8 years on this board I've only received 5 messages in total so I guess someone wants to know..

[Soldierb11]

As Senor Sperto has said there is a separate escort page so if the mod wants to move all the reports there fine by me. I thought here it just gets more eyes on the info as so many people miss those other threads. An example from everywhere in the general thread not the hotel thread "hey I'm heading to Medellin / Bogota / AC / Pattaya / Rio are there any girl friendly hotels close to the action?

Next up to review. Lara Fernandes.

http://hotside.com.br/acompanhantes-...fernandes/2046

So I set up an appointment tonight at 8 pm with Lara. She says on her profile she's a Dominatrix and her pictures show her in leather and chains. Not really my thing, it was her body that caught my eye. I did ask her what she meant by "chuvas" (showers) on her profile. She explained that if guys want she showers them with liquids out of all three of her holes! Definitely not my bag but for those of you who are. Hit her up.

So I show up to her apartment at 8 pm and she is dressed in black leather outfit with holes where the boobs are. Hello there. We got acquainted first by kissing for a minute of tongue action then we said our "hellos and nice to meet yous". She is a tall girl and the pics of her body are spot on. Fit, firm and tight but sadly that comes with fake boobs and likely some fake ass. Her face is decent again not gorgeous but she's an attractive lady. Her profile claims she speaks English. Ummm not really. I suspected as much from her whatsapp messages they seemed very Google translator-ish. But she's a nice girl and we used her phone when needed. I'm tired of writing all this penthouse forum shit on my iPhone. So the short version we kissed, she sucked, I licked, we sucked / licked together and we fucked in 4 positions? Maybe 5. Fuck it. Then a grand finish in her mouth and we were done. Then we talked her in Portuguese and me in ol' Espanol. I probably understood 20% maybe just kept on nodding yes. Here's my key to talking to a brasilian. Just ask them about what they think about their government and the World Cup / Olympics. They will then go off on a tirade and you just nod yes occasionally. Works best during the day outside because then with dark sunglasses you don't even need to maintain eye contact. Works on hookers, taxi drivers, hotel staff, girls at the beach, dudes at the gym, old couple sharing a safari with me and the g / f in Zambia. Try it.

Overall- Lara has a killer body (enhanced though) and is a good fuck. Cool girl to "talk" to. We also spent 20 minutes with her showing me her USA vacation pics. She also has a friend she does duplas with and for you sick fucks she will crap all over you if you want. All for 350 real. Oh yeah afterwards she gave me a beer. I'm only here a week so won't repeat but will stay in touch so when I am back this summer I will give her another shot.

It's now 11 pm and feeling tired but will head over to Barbarella to enjoy two crazily overpriced drinks with the goal of collecting 3 phone numbers.

[Soldierb11]

. I respect what you're saying but from now on play it our way and get double the trouble for half the pay .

Many of the things I do are not me making rookie errors but me running tests to keep myself entertained. I. E. Paying up front-- hypotheses would say I've lowered my chance for a high quality session: true or false? Paying extra-- better performance due to the premium or worse performance since you are viewed as a sucker?

Last 4 escorts average was 350 reais and performance has ranged from very good to lights out superstar helping to prove that paying extra is more likely to decrease performance.

We don't report to look good, we just report to show a different way.

That's probably one of the reasons this is a much more useful thread than many of the other ISG threads.

[Sperto]

My reports are not for you or Cartman, Sperto, or Patmar / Vagabondo. You guys live here or spend most of your time here, and you will probably find zero useful information in what I write.

I appreciate your reports about escorts and find them interesting (I've only tried one escort ever). It's good to read something new on the board and learn from others experiences. Your escorts reports are valuable. I couldn't care less what you, or someone else, pay your escort girls. I'm happy as long as nobody starts to overpay the privê-girls. Paying GPs upfront isn't wise or expected, but you propably change that habit the day some girl tries to fool you.

Btw, there is a thread, "Rio de Janeiro - Escorts":
http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...aneiro-Escorts

[PatmarBeleza1]

Jedi Obiwanmarbeleza thinks of wearing his hat, which is underrated, to go see the gaucha's hat in person, a rail thin wraith in a long cloak in the desert.

Everyone keeps asking about the hat. Well here it is. Believe me when I say it was bigger in person.

[FuckAfMedDig]

"Don't be shook, don't be scared" LOL. In what part of anything I wrote showed that I was scared or too shook up? I survived 5 combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. It takes a bit to rattle my nerves. I choose not to negotiate because I don't have to. I receive two checks a month from the government that are more than enough to sustain me and the things I like to do and if I feel I need a little more I just moonlight at a hospital in the States and make a shit load more. I know very god damn well that escorts are a mixed bag with photoshopped pictures, false claims about English ability and more. But I choose to try escorts this trip just to roll the dice and try something new.

I also noticed there weren't any escort reviews here in months if not years and I thought some of the tourists like myself would like a little Intel. Apparently this is true since I received 11 PMs in the last 24 hours asking about certain girls. In the last 8 years on this board I've only received 5 messages in total so I guess someone wants to know.

I also knew good and god damn well when I wrote my report that some of you wouldn't like it and would start butchering me for paying too much and paying up front. But, that didn't stop me from reporting the truth. I paid the first girl 600 reais and up front. I very easy could've lied and said she opened with 600 and I bargained her down to 300 and then told her you get your 300 baby after the deed when I'm happy with your performance. Then I would've looked cool and you wouldn't have told me to read and don't act scared. But my reports are 100% honest even if it makes me look bad because that's the info people need. Both the success stories and the mistakes / failures are all learning points.

My reports are not for you or Cartman, Sperto, or Patmar / Vagabondo. You guys live here or spend most of your time here, and you will probably find zero useful information in what I write. All you guys give out very valuable useful information and without you guys the board would be almost useless. However what you guys experience here is different than the guys that come for a short time. You've invested the time, learned the language and built up contacts and so you get girls for 100 reais for all night and day. It's the same thing I get in Medellin where I spend most of my time. Girls charging $100 or more per hour to new guys and they come see me for free on days they aren't busy. But I let the Medellin tourists run their game while I run mine. Just like the Rio ex-pats here continue doing what you like and the Rio tourists like myself will continue doing what pleases us.

I respect what you're saying but from now on play it our way and get double the trouble for half the pay. We don't report to look good, we just report to show a different way.

[Soldierb11]

Don't pay in advance. That shit isn't necessary. If anything you can show that you have it ready, but don't pay before you get serviced.

I've said that to many guys in Colombia before but now I think more about it I am starting to change my mind. Sure I prefer to pay after but I don't sweat it now. This is a trip to Brasil for me not a Brasilian vacation. The difference is I'm not here for 7 days and then going back to the States to work. 90% of my life is a vacation. Last 6 months I've taken two trips to Thailand / Philippines, 2 to Brasil and 6 to Colombia. So if I have a bad session or two because I paid up front it's not a big deal like it is for some guy here for a week and then 6 months back in sexual purgatory.

I've paid in advance and gotten bad service and I've paid in advance twice this trip and got fucked crazy porn style. I've paid after and gotten bad service before as well as paying after and getting great service. For me paying before or after isn't making much of a difference.

And what's your play if you are a pay after guy and she was below average? Not pay her? Pay her less than the agreed on fee? Then what? She's immediately on the phone threatening to call the police, security, her pimp etc. Then just to avoid the attention of the police you pay her the agreed on fee to get the fuck out of your room and life.

[Member #4405]

Don't pay in advance. That shit isn't necessary. If anything you can show that you have it ready, but don't pay before you get serviced.

I always pay in advance, I don't have trouble don't forget you will be alone with the lady in the room if there is a problem you can always get the money back just be clear about what you want.

[Soldierb11]

Everyone keeps asking about the hat. Well here it is. Believe me when I say it was bigger in person.

[Pipe Layer99]

Day 2 - escort review.
..... She then asked for her money and I paid her the 400 real and she began taking off her clothes ....

Don't pay in advance. That shit isn't necessary. If anything you can show that you have it ready, but don't pay before you get serviced.

[Soldierb11]

I have to agree with King Cartman.

Paying that type of money is affirmation to them that THE GRINGO still exists! I have had better service taking a latina Rihanna out of Florida Bar for 100 reais- VM for 50-150 for 36 hours- mv30 for.

A filet mignon, drinks and cab fare to!

Read up and don't be shook-don't be scared to hold your own and never part with the money upfront-they already won then.

Escorts always are hit and miss like everything else-as photos / age / body don't match alot of times.

At least in person at VM, MV etc you can inspect the goods!

"Don't be shook, don't be scared" LOL. In what part of anything I wrote showed that I was scared or too shook up? I survived 5 combat tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. It takes a bit to rattle my nerves. I choose not to negotiate because I don't have to. I receive two checks a month from the government that are more than enough to sustain me and the things I like to do and if I feel I need a little more I just moonlight at a hospital in the States and make a shit load more. I know very god damn well that escorts are a mixed bag with photoshopped pictures, false claims about English ability and more. But I choose to try escorts this trip just to roll the dice and try something new.

I also noticed there weren't any escort reviews here in months if not years and I thought some of the tourists like myself would like a little Intel. Apparently this is true since I received 11 PMs in the last 24 hours asking about certain girls. In the last 8 years on this board I've only received 5 messages in total so I guess someone wants to know.

I also knew good and god damn well when I wrote my report that some of you wouldn't like it and would start butchering me for paying too much and paying up front. But, that didn't stop me from reporting the truth. I paid the first girl 600 reais and up front. I very easy could've lied and said she opened with 600 and I bargained her down to 300 and then told her you get your 300 baby after the deed when I'm happy with your performance. Then I would've looked cool and you wouldn't have told me to read and don't act scared. But my reports are 100% honest even if it makes me look bad because that's the info people need. Both the success stories and the mistakes / failures are all learning points.

My reports are not for you or Cartman, Sperto, or Patmar / Vagabondo. You guys live here or spend most of your time here, and you will probably find zero useful information in what I write. All you guys give out very valuable useful information and without you guys the board would be almost useless. However what you guys experience here is different than the guys that come for a short time. You've invested the time, learned the language and built up contacts and so you get girls for 100 reais for all night and day. It's the same thing I get in Medellin where I spend most of my time. Girls charging $100 or more per hour to new guys and they come see me for free on days they aren't busy. But I let the Medellin tourists run their game while I run mine. Just like the Rio ex-pats here continue doing what you like and the Rio tourists like myself will continue doing what pleases us.