Jakarta

[ABCinLA]

After reading a couple reports on B'Fashion going both strong positive as well as negative I figured I had to give it a try. The rooftop open spa is really nice especially with an attached swiming pool. Of course owing to the weather the pool isn't really useable at this time of year. I saw the side line girls but felt like a good relaxing massage ending with a blow job. I was quoted around 650 k; however it ended up costing 720 k, but I was ok with it. I told the mamasan I wanted one with big boobs and ended up with someone similar to #33 at Kimiochi. I was told that if I didn't like what I saw a changed could be made. Very decent massage followed by an oily boby to boby rub and lastly, the ok covered blow job. I can see coming back; probably in a future trip.

Additionally, a trip was out to King Cross. Friends had mentioned to me previously who ventured there in late 2015 that prices were way up, but there had been recent indications that they might have dropped down a bit. Well all the first floor local ladies are now 670 k for the hour service. They looked overall a bit better from what I remembered in 2015; however, back then it was only 345 k (competing against MTR2 at the time). Now the second floor sauna price was slightly lower at 600 k for an hour and a half service. Only like 12 girls were available there and all had a slightly lethargic attitude. Of course at that price I figured the sauna was a better value and took the best looking one with a rack. She did go through the motions; however no blow job at all. Not happy with that, I may still go back on some future trip figuring I'll verify next time a CBJ is on the to do list.

[Gonzo Two]

Face it gentlemen, things are changing here more rapidly than we realise. Accept it in the way you have accepted everything else. Just like booze there will still be plenty of opportunities available, but just like booze it will take much more time and effort to get it, you won't just be able to pop out and pick it up as you feel like, and it's going to cost a lot more too.

Sad, but there you have it.

My guess is commercial sex is going to become more internet-based. There's already a bit of a move in that direction, but with the closing of brick-and-mortar venues, it's going to intensify.

But perhaps there's no need to worry. As for the move to "eliminate red light districts by 2019", well, has anyone seen any evidence that any Indonesian government agency can consistently implement ANY policy of ANY sort for three years in a row? Quite often, they'll announce some new regulation in the morning and then cancel it by the afternoon (eg. The regulation banning Gojek). In other cases, it might remain in force for a full month or two (eg. Banning cattle imports from Australia). But three years?! It will be a first!

[Orangganteng]

Isn't he one of the guys here (or formerly here) who severely criticized the contributions of others because they chose not to post girls' photos without their permission?

What a coincidence. He posts photos like that on here for 10 years, then right after arguing with you about posting photos, someone from this site shows them to the girls.

[Smoothy]

I suspect he is keeping a very low profile after the chastening he received from his regular girls at Dee's Place after he published their pictures here.

To say that they were furious about what he did would be a mild understatement. He is persona non grata now and given that he limited his forays to the dancers at Dee's and the girls at Marabaya he presumably has little to report these days.

I wonder who showed them the pics? There is no way they would ever be viewing them here on their own. My bet is that it was one of the 2 dilweeds that were insulting him here about being fat.

[LA Guy 5]

I suspect he is keeping a very low profile after the chastening he received from his regular girls at Dee's Place after he published their pictures here.

To say that they were furious about what he did would be a mild understatement. He is persona non grata now and given that he limited his forays to the dancers at Dee's and the girls at Marabaya he presumably has little to report these days.

Isn't he one of the guys here (or formerly here) who severely criticized the contributions of others because they chose not to post girls' photos without their permission?

[Gonzo Two]

Well I finally bite the bullet and visited the downmarket alley where Royal Max, Berlian and Kartika are located. Incidentally there are two other darker, narrower, dingier alleyways where there are more bars between them and Illegals. But anyway, all three soapies are rather extremely challenged in finding anyone half way decent looking. Royal Max at 260 k for a soapy was the cheapest with Kartika the highest at 370 k. Of course I took the lowest option and requested someone who wasn't too too bad. I mean she went through the motions of body to body and did followed directions of what I wanted her to do; however, the overall atmosphere / ambience of the area, the bar and the room were a big big detraction leading me to unable to get in much of any mood. Oh, well life goes on and at least I did one there.

Oh, come on, those places aren't that bad! For a hot tip, try Vivi at Berlian. Fun, nice tits, you can come in her mouth, she swallows, and she suggests she'll give you a quick one at the beginning, followed by a long, excellent massage and then a second shot at the end. Her idea, not mine, but it didn't seem like such a bad one. I think the official fee is something like 285 k, but I usually give 400 k. It generates enthusiasm for my next visit.

[Hilo77]

Does anyone know what happened to Korpern Ko, his posts, and his photos? He used to be a regular on this forum?

I suspect he is keeping a very low profile after the chastening he received from his regular girls at Dee's Place after he published their pictures here.

To say that they were furious about what he did would be a mild understatement. He is persona non grata now and given that he limited his forays to the dancers at Dee's and the girls at Marabaya he presumably has little to report these days.

[Hilo77]

I note the mayor of North Jakarta, Rustam Effendi, is one of the politicians taking the lead (I didn't even realize North Jakarta had a mayor). Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether he is Chinese (with an assimilated name), Muslim, or some other religion? I ask because I'm trying to figure out whether there is some sort of ethnic thing going on here (it being North Jakarta) or whether it is a pure anti-prostitution play. Then again, I don't know the ethnicities of most of the former residents of Kalijodo, perhaps primarily Muslim?

Then again, is this really going to be the trend, i.e., vigorous attempts to close red-light districts, in Indonesia going forward?

Apart from the governor Ahok there are no Chinese or indeed non-Muslim senior officials in the Jakarta administration. One Christian woman was appointed a district head in South Jakarta last year and that caused a brouhaha.

It has been suggested to me that this is a big play by Ahok to recreate the old official red-light district that used to be in existence in North Jakarta and which was shut down in the early 90's (if I am not mistaken). Ahok has already said that he believes that prostitution cannot be outlawed but it should be regulated and controlled in one specific venue.

I can't help but think he is on to a loser with this strategy. He will certainly be able to close all the current venues (all complacent ideas that big business interests would prove stronger than the local administration were conclusively rebutted when Stadium was closed) but the idea that he will be able then to open a super, official red-light district is absurd. Not with the febrile atmosphere that is going on now, not with this whole anti-LGBT, anti-porno, anti-booze sentiment that is being whipped up.

Face it gentlemen, things are changing here more rapidly than we realise. Accept it in the way you have accepted everything else. Just like booze there will still be plenty of opportunities available, but just like booze it will take much more time and effort to get it, you won't just be able to pop out and pick it up as you feel like, and it's going to cost a lot more too.

Sad, but there you have it.

[FreebieFan]

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Fuck, it took us 35 min to get out of the airport to the first turn off to the expressway, 35 min sitting standstill in a taxi looking at the airport you just left can get infuriating while the meter slowly climbs. All-in it was a 2 HR 20 min ride to the hotel (430,000) - when I was half laughing about it to the check-in gal she said I was lucky, it took people 3 HR the day prior. (groan).


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Great report and good wordsmithing.

35 minutes to get out of the airport. Nasty. Recal leaving LE Meridien once on a Friday afternoon. To get to the road going to airport, you had to go up a road, make a you turn, go down that road, mke another you turn and finally you were on road to airport. Distance, probably 400 metres. On that particular Friday afternoon, took 2. 5 hours to do the 400 metres. Two planes home missed and some rather challenges times with the then Mrs Freebie, trying to explain why I arrived home 8 hours later than scheduled. Jakarta. Never without some fun and games and a sting in the tail.

[LA Guy 5]

http://jakartaglobe.beritasatu.com/n...jakarta-mayor/

If they go through with the threat to close Alexis, it would seem Classic, Travel, Malioboro, and a lot of other locales in North Jakarta could be in jeopardy.

Normally, if all that was being talked about was Alexis, I would suspect it might be an attempt to get bigger bribes. But that they are going after Kalijodo (now closed) and Alexis at the same time suggests it may be a real attempt to close down prostitution venues.

I note the mayor of North Jakarta, Rustam Effendi, is one of the politicians taking the lead (I didn't even realize North Jakarta had a mayor). Out of curiosity, does anyone know whether he is Chinese (with an assimilated name), Muslim, or some other religion? I ask because I'm trying to figure out whether there is some sort of ethnic thing going on here (it being North Jakarta) or whether it is a pure anti-prostitution play. Then again, I don't know the ethnicities of most of the former residents of Kalijodo, perhaps primarily Muslim?

Then again, is this really going to be the trend, i.e., vigorous attempts to close red-light districts, in Indonesia going forward?

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...cts-2019.html/

[Menteng]

Can't imagine Gang Boker in Ciracas ever really closing as it's prime market is for the military personnel stationed in the area.

Planet Senen is a very eccentric place, worthy of turning into a tourist attraction where the jablay / girls sometimes dance on soap boxes and flirt with passers by. Popular with teenagers the short-time stalls may well be closed.

It's this bloody internet media that is causing all the pricing confusion and mayhem not the local authorities. Ohh and all the sexpats drifting into town to my utter despair.

Tambora.

Haven't been to Boker for a long time for it was (going to be) closed down. Primemarket or not, Dolly, Bangun Redjo, was supposed to cater to the biggest naval base in S. E. Asia. See what happened.

[Muzungufotsy]

Kalijodo is gone:

http://www.bbc.com/indonesia/berita_...alijodo_update

[Joel Goodsen]

Kalijodo's closure hitting the Australian news.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/red-ligh...29-gn69gw.html

Wonder why this has to be Australian news? I always had the feeling some Aussie journalists reading these pages.

[ElephantBeer]

After 10+ trips in 15 years Jakarta is finally fired. Not any single monstrous event, instead a host of aggravations.

Getting in.

No waiting in customs (second off the plane), however the official requested (for the first time) to see my onward ticket. I'm a 40+ average Rolex and Rimowa business dude. I hardly look like a backpacker. I just shook my head like I didn't have one and he called a senior guy over and said to gain entry I need proof of exit. Fine, dig through my carry-on for the printout and will admit they seemed crestfallen when I produced it. They spent a good 10 min going through the hundreds of stamps in my fat passport and only begrudgingly let me in. I was polite the entire time. I think that was a smile on my face and not a smirk.

No proper lineup for taxis, everyone bunches together on the curb (the smarter ladies sat down on curb), 5 min later someone comes by and gives you a slip of paper with a number on it. Mine was '13' - of course they call out the numbers in Indonesian and for forget about you. Finally I just went over and said get me a Silverbird. If I remember correctly the normal fare is like 20 - 25 k to Shangri-la?

Fuck, it took us 35 min to get out of the airport to the first turn off to the expressway, 35 min sitting standstill in a taxi looking at the airport you just left can get infuriating while the meter slowly climbs. All-in it was a 2 HR 20 min ride to the hotel (430,000) - when I was half laughing about it to the check-in gal she said I was lucky, it took people 3 HR the day prior. (groan).

Of course to even GET to the hotel check-in gal, and have that conversation I had to go through beefed up security at the door, was forced to take out my single-packet astroglide, cock ring, phone and everything else and put it on the plate for all the nice dressed up Indonesians to see.

Mongering fail.

Went to Lokasari Plaza in evening to see if any of the mamasans still working, nope, just a few fat girls and one mama that brought me to a cluster of other fatties. Always still bemoan the loss of Today Country.

Hit Bintang Mawar, some good memories of a few girls, this time every seat if full of local sausage and girls are very few. Had to suffer through two drunk locals trying to make conversation with me and raising their glasses at every sip to cheers me. Meh.

SA and LA Cafe. Only a handful of bars open here now, started on the left side (facing in), appeared to be a massage place with half open fishbowl, no obvious signs of 'upstairs' so gave it a pass. On to LA Cafe. Same as before. In years past would sit in here all day and go from beer to girl until late evening running through 4 or 5 of them. There were a lot of girls (weekend) but they were all chubby chasers, cute but fat. Not FAT really like fat girls are in the Philippines with rolls of flesh, but 'fat' like a slug after it just had a blood feast. Full, or overfull if you will. Took an average looking girl upstairs, mama quoting 380,000 tho I swore last time I was here it was 30. Girl gave me a good wash down and proceeded to try to blow me with the tips of her teeth so her lips didn't have to touch my cock. Ate her out for 10 min and then when I went to fuck her nothing was working, just looking at this bloated farm girl with a massive gaping hole that looked like you could fist without touching the sides. I couldn't get it up (unusual for me). Just left, not upset. My fault, not hers.

Next night took Silverbird, was going to hit SA & LA again but we got to talking and he knew all the spots, heard Kalijodo was closing next week. So asked him to take me. He said 'cannot' it's closed down. I thought it was just the typical BS (let me take your somewhere else) or fear about imminent closing, but indeed the place is closed down and they appear to be doing demolition. There were a lot of people still around (the day of closing I guess) so we kept going.

Back to LA and took another girl, no warning signs at all, seemed nice enough to share a drink with. Took her upstairs and alarm bells began to chime. She washed my dick no less than 3 x with 3 different soaps, then made me use mouthwash. (again I'm a very clean looking guy, no bad breath, wearing clean clothes and cologne etc). Fine. We settle on the bed and she gets ck up to get the Listerine again and proceeds to wipe my dick down again with Listerine this time (little burn there) before she blows me. Once her lips came in contact with my leg (instead of just my dick and she proceeded to spit on the sheets and then pointed at my leg like I would understand). Completely average, I'd say on par with turning your moms vacuum cleaner on and sticking your knob in it. One speed (light-speed) no finesse if-I-can-only-manage-to-yank-this-thing-hard-and-fast-enough-I-can-get-out-of-here. Rgh. Tell her to lay down and I'll eat her out, no cannot. WTF? Cannot lick you? No cannot. Normally when a girl says this I listen, they know their pussy better than I do, warts, STD, stink. Fine. However this girls pussy was beautiful, almost no hair, clean etc. She just had some kind of disease fetish. Didn't even want to tell her I'm ready for boom-boom, no condom but will pull out and cum on her tits. (sigh) WTF, already paid my 380,000 + 140,000 (my beer (900) and her water (500)) so what the hell. No cannot. I just got up, put my pants on and left while she was jabbering away about condom. I turned around and said it's not the condom it's that you won't even let me lick your twat. Whatever. Downstairs mamasans could care less, I told one and she shrugged and brought another girl. Since the first girl was her recommendation I declined.

SA had just a few girls (9 pm) and the were in street clothes, nothing more off putting then seeing a dozen girls in jeans and t-shirts playing on their cellphones not even bothering to look up at you.

Back to Lokasari for a look around, still no mamasan, a few 35 yo hookers by the Pizza hut.

Thought about hitting CJ's but really. What's the point, can get better (and easier) service in PI or TH or Germany. Just about anywhere really.

1) Traffic is a nightmare here (always been bad, worse than ever) 3 miles from Lokasari to Shangri-la takes 35 - 40 min (you could almost walk faster than a taxi at 15 min mile).

2) Government seems to have the funds, willpower and moral fortitude to demolish places like Kalijodo, Dolly and RLD but they don't care about intense poverty, infrastructure, helping kids, crime, education, or tourism.

3) Never know what you will get in brothels. If girls fail to deliver you have no recourse (and the girls seem to know it) Never an issue before cause they all gave good service.

4) Girls addicted to phones and no rules about phones in bars. No way to compete with Facebook or candy crush.

Always hate to write-off a mongering destination, esp one I had good fun in. In the past. But surely this is my last trip to Jakarta. For the rest of you. Good luck!

[Member #4716]

Does anyone know what happened to Korpern Ko, his posts, and his photos? He used to be a regular on this forum?