South China - Shenzhen

[Member #4530]

I have a personal policy to not pay prior but this chick didn't budge and started to walk. I sure wish I let her walk. I'm still dumbfounded she verbally agreed to do all the details of the transaction upon receipt of money and then proceeding to do nearly none of them. Lucy is a very hardcore tough nasty mean lady and I feel pretty sorry for her.

Why pay, prior to the deed?

Just my innocent question for today.

P13.

[Sammon]

Why pay, prior to the deed?

Just my innocent question for today.

P13.

Some do hoping they hit the jackpot. It is always a red flag when girl asks for money upfront. I met a very beautiful Chinese Russian mix girl in Beijing. We drove in her car to the hotel. She agreed overnight for $200. Once in the room she demanded money upfront. I told her to leave. I told her to go to the restroom. By the time she came back I had locked all money and valuables. First question she asked me is why I do not trust her and why I locked up my money. She must have heard the noise. However after this episode she was a real GFE and whole next day also we stayed together visiting forbidden city and dinner and clubs. More sex and all I paid is only $200. She even offered to get me her pretty friends. Remember this was a while ago and in Beijing you can get a girl for 400 RMB for one shot from street mama sans.

Sometimes you need to show the girl who is the boss of the transaction.

[Fifty Shades]

I followed Threadbare's excellent instructions using WeChat Discover and got a long list of possibles. I sent WeChat greeting to possibles working out to a radius of 5 km from my Futian hotel but no positive responses. Then I decided to walk the streets in and around my hotel. Some non-working friendly girls chatted me up but they were merely friendly ladies out for night of fun and made no suggestions otherwise. So I went back to hotel and went to the Shenzhen Backpage website and clicked on the "escort" page. There was one convincing ad "20-year-old college student provide outcall massage 0086-XXXXXXXXXXXXX (Lucy) - 20". Texted her and discussed the details. Settled for the 1200 RMB two hour oil massage + BBBJ + FS offer. Agreed if she wasn't the girl in the photos, no deal. Met her in the lobby and as I suspected was not the girl in the photos but an older heavier facsimile, however still doable. She asked for the 1200 RMB up front which is virtual the highest I've ever paid for such in my life but I was strongly in need. Agreed after a promise of two hours of action starting with a long slow oil massage. So I showered and we went to work. She went straight to the BBBJ without any hint of an oil massage and had the condom on and was pummeling me within 10 minutes. Not what we had negotiated. Nothing could convince her to do a simple massage and the whole scene turned nasty. She started screaming at me and wouldn't stop talking to someone on the phone at the same time. I said give me my money back. She got nastier and I grabbed her iPhone and locked it in the safe. Shit turned even nastier with her tossing my 40 lb suitcase at me. I tried to talk reason to her and politely asked for a 50% return of my money and I would return her phone. No go. She got even nastier attempting to smash my laptop computer. There was no calming her down at this point so I called hotel security. Security was very helpful and negotiated with her. Finally agreed to her returning 700 RMB and I return the phone. Security escorted her out of my 5-star hotel and end of story. Please learn from my mistakes.

The girls sent from the agencies know they will never see you again, so why bother with good service? The last time I tried Wechat in SZ, I used the people nearby feature and made clear in my profile that I was western. I was soon contacted by at least half a dozen girls, all Chinese, but I noticed that their profiles all said that they were from the same tiny country in europe. Obviously all agency messages, so I didn't bother. The only one not from that same european country wanted to sell me investments.

[Mpnasik]

Bro,

Thanks for FR.

I also msged Lucy sometime back & she did send me some pics but not coming down below 1000.

Same experience with others. Thanks for posting reality need to be careful.

I think erotic massage parlors is best option.

I followed Threadbare's excellent instructions using WeChat Discover and got a long list of possibles. I sent WeChat greeting to possibles working out to a radius of 5 km from my Futian hotel but no positive responses. Then I decided to walk the streets in and around my hotel. Some non-working friendly girls chatted me up but they were merely friendly ladies out for night of fun and made no suggestions otherwise. So I went back to hotel and went to the Shenzhen Backpage website and clicked on the "escort" page. There was one convincing ad "20-year-old college student provide outcall massage 0086-XXXXXXXXXXXXX (Lucy) - 20". Texted her and discussed the details. Settled for the 1200 RMB two hour oil massage + BBBJ + FS offer. Agreed if she wasn't the girl in the photos, no deal. Met her in the lobby and as I suspected was not the girl in the photos but an older heavier facsimile, however still doable. She asked for the 1200 RMB up front which is virtual the highest I've ever paid for such in my life but I was strongly in need. Agreed after a promise of two hours of action starting with a long slow oil massage. So I showered and we went to work. She went straight to the BBBJ without any hint of an oil massage and had the condom on and was pummeling me within 10 minutes. Not what we had negotiated. Nothing could convince her to do a simple massage and the whole scene turned nasty. She started screaming at me and wouldn't stop talking to someone on the phone at the same time. I said give me my money back. She got nastier and I grabbed her iPhone and locked it in the safe. Shit turned even nastier with her tossing my 40 lb suitcase at me. I tried to talk reason to her and politely asked for a 50% return of my money and I would return her phone. No go. She got even nastier attempting to smash my laptop computer. There was no calming her down at this point so I called hotel security. Security was very helpful and negotiated with her. Finally agreed to her returning 700 RMB and I return the phone. Security escorted her out of my 5-star hotel and end of story. Please learn from my mistakes.

[Pushkin13]

I followed Threadbare's excellent instructions using WeChat Discover and got a long list of possibles. I sent WeChat greeting to possibles working out to a radius of 5 km from my Futian hotel but no positive responses.
Then I decided to walk the streets in and around my hotel. Some non-working friendly girls chatted me up but they were merely friendly ladies out for night of fun and made no suggestions otherwise.
So I went back to hotel and went to the Shenzhen Backpage website and clicked on the "escort" page.
There was one convincing ad "20-year-old college student provide outcall massage 0086-XXXXXXXXXXXXX (Lucy) - 20".
Texted her and discussed the details. Settled for the 1200 RMB two hour oil massage + BBBJ + FS offer.
Agreed if she wasn't the girl in the photos, no deal. Met her in the lobby and as I suspected was not the girl in the photos but an older heavier facsimile, however still doable.
She asked for the 1200 RMB up front which is virtual the highest I've ever paid for such in my life but I was strongly in need.
Agreed after a promise of two hours of action starting with a long slow oil massage. So I showered and we went to work.
She went straight to the BBBJ without any hint of an oil massage and had the condom on and was pummeling me within 10 minutes. Not what we had negotiated.
Nothing could convince her to do a simple massage and the whole scene turned nasty. She started screaming at me and wouldn't stop talking to someone on the phone at the same time.
I said give me my money back. She got nastier and I grabbed her iPhone and locked it in the safe. Shit turned even nastier with her tossing my 40 lb suitcase at me.
I tried to talk reason to her and politely asked for a 50% return of my money and I would return her phone. No go. She got even nastier attempting to smash my laptop computer.
There was no calming her down at this point so I called hotel security. Security was very helpful and negotiated with her. Finally agreed to her returning 700 RMB and I return the phone.
Security escorted her out of my 5-star hotel and end of story. Please learn from my mistakes.

Why pay, prior to the deed?

Just my innocent question for today.

P13.

[ShangHangin]

I followed Threadbare's excellent instructions using WeChat Discover and got a long list of possibles. I sent WeChat greeting to possibles working out to a radius of 5 km from my Futian hotel but no positive responses. Then I decided to walk the streets in and around my hotel. Some non-working friendly girls chatted me up but they were merely friendly ladies out for night of fun and made no suggestions otherwise. So I went back to hotel and went to the Shenzhen Backpage website and clicked on the "escort" page. There was one convincing ad "20-year-old college student provide outcall massage 0086-XXXXXXXXXXXXX (Lucy) - 20". Texted her and discussed the details. Settled for the 1200 RMB two hour oil massage + BBBJ + FS offer. Agreed if she wasn't the girl in the photos, no deal. Met her in the lobby and as I suspected was not the girl in the photos but an older heavier facsimile, however still doable. She asked for the 1200 RMB up front which is virtual the highest I've ever paid for such in my life but I was strongly in need. Agreed after a promise of two hours of action starting with a long slow oil massage. So I showered and we went to work. She went straight to the BBBJ without any hint of an oil massage and had the condom on and was pummeling me within 10 minutes. Not what we had negotiated. Nothing could convince her to do a simple massage and the whole scene turned nasty. She started screaming at me and wouldn't stop talking to someone on the phone at the same time. I said give me my money back. She got nastier and I grabbed her iPhone and locked it in the safe. Shit turned even nastier with her tossing my 40 lb suitcase at me. I tried to talk reason to her and politely asked for a 50% return of my money and I would return her phone. No go. She got even nastier attempting to smash my laptop computer. There was no calming her down at this point so I called hotel security. Security was very helpful and negotiated with her. Finally agreed to her returning 700 RMB and I return the phone. Security escorted her out of my 5-star hotel and end of story. Please learn from my mistakes.

Waf,

Thanks for sharing your bad experience. This again shows:

1. Ads are not a reliable way to find girls (nor is wechat. It's like following a tout).

2. Never ever ever pay up front even if services agreed to. They must be rendered.

3. Use you upper head. If you think it's a scam, get out early.

SH.

[Member #4530]

I followed Threadbare's excellent instructions using WeChat Discover and got a long list of possibles. I sent WeChat greeting to possibles working out to a radius of 5 km from my Futian hotel but no positive responses. Then I decided to walk the streets in and around my hotel. Some non-working friendly girls chatted me up but they were merely friendly ladies out for night of fun and made no suggestions otherwise. So I went back to hotel and went to the Shenzhen Backpage website and clicked on the "escort" page. There was one convincing ad "20-year-old college student provide outcall massage 0086-XXXXXXXXXXXXX (Lucy) - 20". Texted her and discussed the details. Settled for the 1200 RMB two hour oil massage + BBBJ + FS offer. Agreed if she wasn't the girl in the photos, no deal. Met her in the lobby and as I suspected was not the girl in the photos but an older heavier facsimile, however still doable. She asked for the 1200 RMB up front which is virtual the highest I've ever paid for such in my life but I was strongly in need. Agreed after a promise of two hours of action starting with a long slow oil massage. So I showered and we went to work. She went straight to the BBBJ without any hint of an oil massage and had the condom on and was pummeling me within 10 minutes. Not what we had negotiated. Nothing could convince her to do a simple massage and the whole scene turned nasty. She started screaming at me and wouldn't stop talking to someone on the phone at the same time. I said give me my money back. She got nastier and I grabbed her iPhone and locked it in the safe. Shit turned even nastier with her tossing my 40 lb suitcase at me. I tried to talk reason to her and politely asked for a 50% return of my money and I would return her phone. No go. She got even nastier attempting to smash my laptop computer. There was no calming her down at this point so I called hotel security. Security was very helpful and negotiated with her. Finally agreed to her returning 700 RMB and I return the phone. Security escorted her out of my 5-star hotel and end of story. Please learn from my mistakes.

You select "Discover" from bottom line menu, then "people nearby" you can then choose "female only" if that's your fancy. I have used this with good effect in middle east countries and Philippines, though I haven't been to China recently. You can use we chat to message, or if you're lucky you may find some phone numbers you can use in the we chat profile. If we chat works there, you will find someone.

[Threadbare]

Help me Lev. How can one use WeChat for finding such? I use it for communications, just don't know how one can use it find a GRO?

V / are.

Waffles.

You select "Discover" from bottom line menu, then "people nearby" you can then choose "female only" if that's your fancy. I have used this with good effect in middle east countries and Philippines, though I haven't been to China recently. You can use we chat to message, or if you're lucky you may find some phone numbers you can use in the we chat profile. If we chat works there, you will find someone.

[LukeSkywalker]

I would be interested in how well WECHAT works in ShenZhen. If police cracks down seriously on prostitution, I would be very careful of police stings. Just use the feature to find nearby people and deal only with females.

In Vietnam, dozens WECHAT girls in the tourists district would chat me up all day all night trying to sell sex, but they all use fake pics and just about all showed far less attractive in person. WECHAT girls in Vietnam are so bad-looking, mercenary and robot-like that I just stopped using them.

In ShenZhen, outcall escorts spread their calling cards with pictures of beautiful young girls, but the girls who show up at your hotel room always look different and far worse than the pics. Any local bros with knowledge of accessing sweet, pretty, young girls in SZ please do me a favor and PM me. It's sad that even local experts like Master Monger claimed he could no longer find good-looking young girls in SZ. How and Where do girls go to have sex with guys?

[Member #4530]

I think using wechat is still the best way.

Lev.

Help me Lev. How can one use WeChat for finding such? I use it for communications, just don't know how one can use it find a GRO?

V / are.

Waffles.

[ThingStick]

Super! Thanks much for the info. I should have mentioned the walk around was not exactly fruitless; I was approached by at least a dozen people saying they had beautiful girls for special massage or boom-boom, an expression I have not hear since Thailand.

I didn't take anyone up because the doors they were pointing to, with the exception of one, looked pretty seedy.

Don't worry about doors outside appearance. For real. It's like apartments in China. Total shit in the hallway, nice inside. Or it's not! Don't quote me! Haha. However, never take outside appearances (good OR bad!) for how it will be inside.

[Levitian]

Any recommendations on online resources for finding some action to hotel? Is there a backpages or craiglist equivalent in SZ that can get some talent to one's hotel? Thanks in advance. Waffles.

I think using wechat is still the best way.

Lev.

[Member #4530]

Any recommendations on online resources for finding some action to hotel? Is there a backpages or craiglist equivalent in SZ that can get some talent to one's hotel? Thanks in advance. Waffles.

[Mpnasik]

Guys,

Please do post some FRs.

Is there any erotic massage parlors in Shenzhen like Pertheden.

I did try to search net, but in vain.

Thanks in advance.

[Mpnasik]

Since this forum is quite cold & no specific info, decided to have a luck in much discussed queen spa on weekend. They increased rate to 108 now & if buy services worth 179 it's waived off. Although massages are OK but absolutely no extras. Girls are hungry for tips & if you don't want to give. No options, you have to.

Positive: Complementary fresh fruits very good.

Strange: Men keep roaming around completely nude.