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  1. #13532
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Dan,

    For regular customers, it is essential to tip the papasan for giving really great advice. This can be a major way for them to make money. If you don't tip, he may rely on kickbacks paid by girls to recommend them, even if they are lousy.

    If you know the papasan well, can tip before the session for good help. However if unsure it is better to give him good tip on the way out, only if the advice was good. You can't afford to give a tip for bullshit advice.

    My problem with many papasans, is that the girls they are recommending are not to my spec usually, so I am not going to choose them. I need to find a papasan / mamasan that understands my taste, or can just comment on the service levels of girls that have the right look that I am pointing out.
    The problem with listening to the papasan is that he doesn't know the ladies directly. He probably has never seen these ladies in the nude. And he probably never had sex with them either. The ladies tell him what they are willing to do. But he doesn't know directly how good they are at it. He only knows if the lady gets a lot of repeat customers, or if she gets complaints once in a while. At best, his recommendation is an educated guess, which might or might not be right.

    The papasan knows which ladies are most popular. He can tell you who these ladies are and when is the best time to catch them. He can help you meet their most popular ladies, who aren't there when you come, either because they work part-time or because they are busy with some other guy. And this is something to tip him for.

    And of course, instead of trying to find out which ladies are better in bed, you can try using the papasan to motivate the lady, so that she will be good in bed with you. The lady cares about her reputation with the papasan, because he can recommend her to many guys. And if you provide strong feedback to the papasan about the lady's performance by giving him a tip or not, then this motivates the lady to do her best with you, provided that she knows about your tip for the papasan.

  2. #13531
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan7373  [View Original Post]
    It never occurred to me to tip the papasan. But now that I think about it, this makes sense.

    The papasan (or mamasan) is basically a salesman for the ladies and for the establishment. He is probably told to get every lady working, especially those who haven't had guys for a while. Which means that his recommendation isn't necessarily in your interest.

    But if you give the guy some money as a tip, then he can hope for another tip from you next time. Which means that he will recommend you a lady, who is better than most, so that you will come back.
    Dan,

    For regular customers, it is essential to tip the papasan for giving really great advice. This can be a major way for them to make money. If you don't tip, he may rely on kickbacks paid by girls to recommend them, even if they are lousy.

    If you know the papasan well, can tip before the session for good help. However if unsure it is better to give him good tip on the way out, only if the advice was good. You can't afford to give a tip for bullshit advice.

    My problem with many papasans, is that the girls they are recommending are not to my spec usually, so I am not going to choose them. I need to find a papasan / mamasan that understands my taste, or can just comment on the service levels of girls that have the right look that I am pointing out.

  3. #13530
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Do you have a particular Papasan that you can trust to give honest advice? Name? In past I have found some are very bad and some are very good at various Soapy Venues. I never have any CBJs, but then again have not been to Nataree recently, after rarely meeting a girl worth repeating there in the past. Maybe just bad luck with very inexperienced and dick scared girls. Probably need the advice on which girls to try, and certainly need to know if they have sillies or not.
    To Syzygies.

    I will never take a advice from a papasan in Nataree anyway they always try to push me the girl I don't want when I ask him service the girl can offer they just tell me to ask the girl they are so useless.

    Fast Eddie 48.

  4. #13529
    Quote Originally Posted by RalphKramden  [View Original Post]
    I found being friendly to the papasan and tipping him a little with the promise of more if the girl performs well worked well. Be sure and say that to him in front of the girl so she will understand what you are doing.
    Thanks for the information will be in Bangkok today maybe I'll see some of the board members around town.

  5. #13528
    Quote Originally Posted by RalphKramden  [View Original Post]
    I found being friendly to the papasan and tipping him a little with the promise of more if the girl performs well worked well. Be sure and say that to him in front of the girl so she will understand what you are doing.
    I suppose, you can really enhance the lady's reputation by giving the papasan a good tip after her session with you and telling him that she was really good with you.

    Putting your money where your mouth is makes you a lot more believable. And in this case, it's the papasan who is believing you.

    The lady might not care much about one customer. But she needs the papasan to think highly of her, so that he will recommend her to guys. She depends on him for many customers and not just one.

  6. #13527
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan7373  [View Original Post]
    It never occurred to me to tip the papasan. But now that I think about it, this makes sense.

    The papasan (or mamasan) is basically a salesman for the ladies and for the establishment. He is probably told to get every lady working, especially those who haven't had guys for a while. Which means that his recommendation isn't necessarily in your interest.

    But if you give the guy some money as a tip, then he can hope for another tip from you next time. Which means that he will recommend you a lady, who is better than most, so that you will come back.
    I found being friendly to the papasan and tipping him a little with the promise of more if the girl performs well worked well. Be sure and say that to him in front of the girl so she will understand what you are doing.

  7. #13526
    Quote Originally Posted by SeanEZ  [View Original Post]
    You should make small talk and tip papasan at Nataree and he will explain to you if a girl can only do certain things or if service is good. I've always gotten BBBJ with hottest youngest girls there. The last one just kept on deep kissing me the whole time.

    My fav place in BKK.
    It never occurred to me to tip the papasan. But now that I think about it, this makes sense.

    The papasan (or mamasan) is basically a salesman for the ladies and for the establishment. He is probably told to get every lady working, especially those who haven't had guys for a while. Which means that his recommendation isn't necessarily in your interest.

    But if you give the guy some money as a tip, then he can hope for another tip from you next time. Which means that he will recommend you a lady, who is better than most, so that you will come back.

  8. #13525
    Quote Originally Posted by SeanEZ  [View Original Post]
    You should make small talk and tip papasan at Nataree and he will explain to you if a girl can only do certain things or if service is good. I've always gotten BBBJ with hottest youngest girls there. The last one just kept on deep kissing me the whole time.

    My fav place in BKK.
    Do you have a particular Papasan that you can trust to give honest advice? Name? In past I have found some are very bad and some are very good at various Soapy Venues. I never have any CBJs, but then again have not been to Nataree recently, after rarely meeting a girl worth repeating there in the past. Maybe just bad luck with very inexperienced and dick scared girls. Probably need the advice on which girls to try, and certainly need to know if they have sillies or not.

  9. #13524
    You should make small talk and tip papasan at Nataree and he will explain to you if a girl can only do certain things or if service is good. I've always gotten BBBJ with hottest youngest girls there. The last one just kept on deep kissing me the whole time.

    My fav place in BKK.

  10. #13523
    Quote Originally Posted by NopoProwler  [View Original Post]
    Had another stint at S. Botan.

    As per usual, selected 2 or 3 girls and asked papas an for recommendation among my picks.

    #10.

    30 year old from Issan. Light tanned slim body with small but perky tits. She actually looked Lile this Chinese chick I wanted to bang when I lived in Beijing. Sadly, same personality: seems to her it hurts to smile. Session was very professional and my fantasy helped blow my wad fast. Done in 25 minutes. Not very happy. Nice body, bad attitude.

    #89.

    On the way up with #10 this petite lady and her customer got into the elevator with us. She said Hi to me and smiled so I waited for her to finish and took her up. Didn't even give her the chance to return to the fishbowl. She was a lot of fun, talkative and easy laugh. DFK, GFE. Being the second time and my age, we finished the round with a hand job. No way I could have done it.

    This experience made me like S. Botan a little more: if #10 had been 2000 baht I would have been pissed, but it wasn't. And I got to try another girl and spent as much as I would have in some other MP.

    Later,

    Nopo
    Very realistic report. Its hard to select the right girl. Fun and performance levels are hit and miss. Roll the Dice. Perhaps the first girl was really too grumpy to be selected? I like to watch girls for a fair time before selecting. I don't mind if they pay no attention to me (shyness), but if they really look like they don't want to be there, best not to choose them. I too, have made many mistakes choosing a pretty girl who is not in the mood to really have fun. I also avoid girls over acting to show wild enthusiasm which is fake. Playful is good.

    It is good when price is low enough, that wrong girl selection doesn't cost a fortune. If I get a bad girl, I prefer to leave with no cum, so that I can go with a better girl fairly promptly afterwards.

  11. #13522
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveHole69  [View Original Post]
    Just read your post a few pages back and your dead on goatscrot, back years ago I actually liked the service and looks of the Chinese hookers in Malaysian brothels when I spent a few months there, but Bangkok was better overall due to price and availability and keeping myself in good shape and with a Sicilian sized schlong I always found Thai girls eager to try and provide a good service.
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    .... but seemed rather fake to me and then she said she was a bit tired from all the customers although that could be the case, I just think it just shows a lot of customers are not very perceptive and since Dao is not even keen on westerners to much and has the usual thai meng the that is most likely the case.
    Are you saying a Sicilian Shlong is well liked, because it is small? Big, certainly does not make Thai girls more eager, in general. Some of them stiffen up the legs, scared of being pierced. Some girls are always heading to the safer Asian customers. Service levels are not at all assisted by cock size. Quite the opposite.

    What is a "Thai Meng"?

  12. #13521
    Anyone know if Eden is still open? Have less than 24 hours in BKK, and it's usually my go to place.

  13. #13520

    Providers and BB

    Just read your post a few pages back and your dead on goatscrot, back years ago I actually liked the service and looks of the Chinese hookers in Malaysian brothels when I spent a few months there, but Bangkok was better overall due to price and availability and keeping myself in good shape and with a Sicilian sized schlong I always found Thai girls eager to try and provide a good service.

    Although I would say their level of skills wasn't usually that good but now like you I find Bangkok becoming rather uninspiring and the looks in the pse establishments is poor so you are right service should be expected.

    I remember when I discovered tulip after reading reviews online there was plenty of reasonably nice looking girls before and service was really good it was years ago so I can't remember names off hand but one was a lady who had a sponsor providing her a condo room down Soi poomchit near the 7-11.

    And eihtooms I do think a BB forum would be a good idea, and yes I have read reports on here from people then found when trying the lady I wasn't impressed, which is why I said most ladies will provide bb at times and with a lot it will depend on the customer. One of the few ladies I tried before due to reviews was dao of tulip and her service was as described but seemed rather fake to me and then she said she was a bit tired from all the customers although that could be the case, I just think it just shows a lot of customers are not very perceptive and since Dao is not even keen on westerners to much and has the usual thai meng the that is most likely the case. So I agree with your points but I still think if you give reports and don't mention places or names it defeats the point of the forum and makes the information you give totally useless to others and it also spoils what could be an informative post.

    By the way I also don't find skills very often make up for being covered with a rubber balloon on my cock which takes away the excitement level.

    Most of the massage parlor girls I barebacked iv caught nothing from but would rarely do that now, because when I often did that with bargirls I had to many cases of bad STD and would imagine if PSE girls regularly barebacked this would be an even bigger problem.

  14. #13519

    Sao Botan again

    Had another stint at S. Botan.

    As per usual, selected 2 or 3 girls and asked papas an for recommendation among my picks.

    #10.

    30 year old from Issan. Light tanned slim body with small but perky tits. She actually looked Lile this Chinese chick I wanted to bang when I lived in Beijing. Sadly, same personality: seems to her it hurts to smile. Session was very professional and my fantasy helped blow my wad fast. Done in 25 minutes. Not very happy. Nice body, bad attitude.

    #89.

    On the way up with #10 this petite lady and her customer got into the elevator with us. She said Hi to me and smiled so I waited for her to finish and took her up. Didn't even give her the chance to return to the fishbowl. She was a lot of fun, talkative and easy laugh. DFK, GFE. Being the second time and my age, we finished the round with a hand job. No way I could have done it.

    This experience made me like S. Botan a little more: if #10 had been 2000 baht I would have been pissed, but it wasn't. And I got to try another girl and spent as much as I would have in some other MP.

    Later,

    Nopo

  15. #13518
    Quote Originally Posted by Mjen1970  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    I'm arriving into Suvarnabhumi at the end of May. We'll be landing on Sunday May 29th about lunchtime and will probably have bags collected and ready to roll at about 1400.

    My buddy wants to jump in a taxi and head straight for Pattaya getting in there for about 1600. I am thinking of dumping my bags in left luggage (I think its 100 B) and heading in on the train to BKK to Huay Kwang for Nataree or Asoke and either going to see Wan at Bamboo (despite the damn A+ surcharge) or maybe heading up to Bongkot to do a repeat with Cash (search on my handle and you can find my reviews on both) or maybe popping into SW Soi 26.

    A few questions if you don't mind guys -.

    1. Is Cash working as in WORKING or is she doing the mamasan bit for now?

    2. Whats my timing like for Nataree or the Suk oilies? I would have thought that 1500 (ish) Sunday afternoon would be a good time.

    3. What would you do? Is it worth the effort and time heading into BKK. Should I just head straight for Patts and hit Soi Honey / Soi 6 as soon as I get there?

    Thanks,
    So I had a look on the Bongkot website and Cash's picture has gone. Looks like that is the decision made for me. Straight to Pattaya. .

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