Pattaya Reports

[Old New Guy]

Jesus dude. I am perplexed by your comments. Thais are among the friendliest people on earth. They don't call it the Land of Smiles for nothing.

I understand the comments. Some people is quick, or more sensitive to realize that things are not exactly as they seem, that smiles are more a to lay a demarc than denote friendliness, have ever heard about the 13 types of Thai smiles? Pretty much any foreigner that has been in Thailand long enough (which is not very long) will tell you how completely xenophobic and nationalist they are. All it takes is to learn few Thai insults and listen to what kids say behind your shoulders when you go by. Most often the first impression a Latino person will have about Asians, is that they are false and hypocrites, which of course is a racist cliche', but there must be some reason why that is perceived? By the way, the comment about the police is also pretty much spot on. Not many Thais have the guts to oppose or mess with them even when in the right. That is product of a generally repressive and authority exalting society. A cast system without the casts being officially delineated (except for the Royal Family.) Without getting in more details and stories, how which there is a billion, I understand the first sight shock. Of course many foreigners (openly or not) absolutely love these negative aspects of the Thai society, and are actually happy to live isolated just to see that discrimination and injustice is ever tougher for others.

[Cool]

Wow. Ladyboys are everywhere even in the malls. Just ask the chosen one, she will tell you if she's a ladyboy. One would have to say avoid everywhere. There are some very nice 1000% lady's in the places you plan to avoid.

I am inexperienced in Thailand. This is only my second trip. I put the over / under of concentration of LBs on Soi 7 at 30% with some questionable specimens. Silver Star go go on Soi 7 about 250 m from the beach charges around 85-95 be for Heineken but 110 bht for water. Bar fine is the standard 700 and 400 bht for room plus 2 k to girl for ST. That is a whopping 3100 bht (comparable to walking St where girls can be not too old). Some of the dancers have nice bodies but a lot of the dancers are on the wrong side of 30. I went at 1 am this morning and probably won't return. The staff was friendly and cordial and the girls shoot out ice cubes out of their vaginas. On a motorbike I saw a very nice lady wearing blk and pink the other night between soi 8 and bukhao. But it was well past 11 pm (fatigued) and I am budgeting my money so partying everyday of the week is out of the question since this is not an expense trip or short holiday.

[Uncle Volodya]

Currently, I am in Pattaya. What a disappointment this place is. I will describe Pattaya culturally. Imagine there was a mental institution in Thailand where they gathered the world's people including local Thai's. Then everyone was set free with the Thai's running the businesses. This is Pattaya. I have only been here a few days and I am feeling retarded myself. I could play insane looking at wall and laughing to myself better than anywhere else I have been and could fit in well. I have actually been this way with people laughing with me. The layers of crap and contempt are overwhelming. I was expecting contempt but this is too much.

Jesus dude. I am perplexed by your comments. Thais are among the friendliest people on earth. They don't call it the Land of Smiles for nothing.

I live in Russia and when I come to Pattaya just being on the street is like a family reunion. Everyone is so friendly and nice here by comparison. What would you do if you had to spend some time in Russia, hang yourself?

Time to man up and relax! There are a thousand guys on this board (me included) who would give their left nut to be in Patts right now. If you don't take advantage of this opportunity you will come to regret it.

Sorry about the dose of tough love. I hope you don't take it personally. We all need it from time to time.

[Mr Enternational]

Currently, I am in Pattaya. What a disappointment this place is. I will describe Pattaya culturally. Imagine there was a mental institution in Thailand where they gathered the world's people including local Thai's. Then everyone was set free with the Thai's running the businesses. This is Pattaya. I have only been here a few days and I am feeling retarded myself.

Mr E, you are my long lost brother and don't even realize it. I have to ride you a little though. How can you post pictures in Buenos Aires, Medellin and then live in Thailand? Do tell, please. In the poor neighborhoods of Medellin I feel no foreigner contempt. It is warm and connected there. In Pattaya there are layers upon layers of contempt. You are a better man than I to be able to rise above all this crap to get quality hookers and better infrastructure. You are one of my favorite posters, bro. I appreciate your response in advance.

Send me a PM and we can hook up tomorrow. I have been hanging out with JesseJames the past few days. At first he was off to a rocky start but now he is a force to be reckoned with. I can't even keep up with the guy anymore. Looks like he is even learning a bit of Thai. He just called me "ba" (Thai for crazy) because he keeps telling me to come out right now but I am so damn tired. I am usually sleep by 10. Last night it was 8.

Tomorrow I bowl at 3 pm if you want to tag along. One guy I bowl with is 74 and has not been back to the States since 86. So he can tell you much more about the inner workings of this place than I can. Yesterday he was telling me about the tunnel they are building. He talked to the congressman and the police chief and nobody seems to know where the damn tunnel is going to come out at even though they have already started building it. And it went from 2 years completion time to 4 years in a matter of months. This is Thailand!

[Old New Guy]

I do not agree with your assertion that Latin women are not as horny as Thai women. I would say it's just the opposite. Also, Thai women cannot surpass Brazilian women in bed.

I was thinking like you before meeting Som, the nympho I've lost to a rich French. (Isaan Anurak and mistress Rasri were fantastic three holers too, but these were different, much more emotional stories). When a completely sober woman quietly tells you before getting to bed for the first time "you can fuck me everywhere, you can fuck my mouth, you can fuck my pussy, you can fuck my ass", I think that makes quite clear on which league you're going to play. Now, I can count four "fucks" in that sentence, but I couldn't count them anymore the following day. Maybe because the memories of the only other nympho I was gifted with before, my Brazilian BS. As. Resident Natalia, had faded over the years, to her honor she was the one that when became lovers would position right away my dick to the the ass for a proper hard session. The difference is that Latina girls are educated about sex, they talk about it all the time, they try to keep the level high, and their local male sex partner are very much up to the job of rising the standard. In Thailand, sex is still largely a taboo matter, which can be (and is in fact quietly encouraged) done but can't be shown or talked about, the result is that when it comes to you in its full force it will surprise you. It's more like a liberating experience than an already mature and liberated one. I agree that on average Latina women are slightly better in bed, but just slightly. But they are not nearly funny, or spontaneous, or accommodating like Thai (sometime) are.

There we go, the debate has started.
*note, from all the anal sex references one may think that I'm fixated with that. Strangely enough, I'm not. It just that I've found over the years that when a woman delivers herself completely and fully enjoys sex, anal sex is always part of the equation.

[Lefeu]

I can only reassure you that you haven't seen anything yet, you haven't seen with clarity, and of course you have have not enjoyed the great pleasure of strong and / or sweet sex with a Thai woman. As I'm used to say, Brazilians or Colombians can be great lovers, but an hot horny Thai woman is very, very hard to surpass in bed. True, with all the love for the Latinas.

I am currently in Medellin, Colombia, and I come here quite often. I have also been in Brazil a number of times. I do not agree with your assertion that Latin women are not as horny as Thai women. I would say it's just the opposite. Also, Thai women cannot surpass Brazilian women in bed.

I have taken close to 20 trips to Thailand, and I would venture to say that Thai women are the best at pampering the men, and therefore provide the best GFE, IMO.

[Old New Guy]

Currently, I am in Pattaya. What a disappointment this place is....
Mr E, you are my long lost brother and don't even realize it. I have to ride you a little though. How can you post pictures in Buenos Aires, Medellin and then live in Thailand? Do tell, please. In the poor neighborhoods of Medellin I feel no foreigner contempt...

These are the symptoms of the typical culture shock a person from a Latin culture gets when coming to Thailand (especially Pattaya), for the very first time. I had this about 15 years ago, too soothe myself I took "refuge" in Jomtien Beach. Of course, that did not made much of a difference, I still burned and shined in Pattaya, and various other places in Thailand and the Far East in the course of the following years.

I do not want to write a long or apologetic post or start a debate of Latin America Vs Thailand and the Far East. But I've been almost anywhere in LA, lived and did business many years in Buenos Aires, can pass for Argentinean if I stress the accent, etc. Now look where I'm spending my time and money? I can only reassure you that you haven't seen anything yet, you haven't seen with clarity, and of course you have have not enjoyed the great pleasure of strong and / or sweet sex with a Thai woman. As I'm used to say, Brazilians or Colombians can be great lovers, but an hot horny Thai woman is very, very hard to surpass in bed. True, with all the love for the Latinas.

Give Thailand a better chance. More correctly give yourself a chance to understand. About the women, sorry but you will have to try many and develop a sort of sixth sense to screen them and get lucky just sometime. The Latin rules of engagement don't apply here. One more challenge for you amigo. Of course if you want to give up even better... for the ones that don't.

[Uncle Volodya]

Are ladyboys mixed in with real girls on Soi 7 beer gardens? Even a few of the masseuses don't look like genuine women. I know to avoid Soi 6/1 and Bukhao. Should I avoid all beer gardens altogether not near walking street?

Maybe best to stay home. I hear Kansas is lovely this time of year.

Just poking fun mate. I would not sworry about the LBs. My experience is if you don't bother them they won't bother you (too much).

[Long91]

Are ladyboys mixed in with real girls on Soi 7 beer gardens? Even a few of the masseuses don't look like genuine women. I know to avoid Soi 6/1 and Bukhao. Should I avoid all beer gardens altogether not near walking street?

Wow. Ladyboys are everywhere even in the malls. Just ask the chosen one, she will tell you if she's a ladyboy. One would have to say avoid everywhere. There are some very nice 1000% lady's in the places you plan to avoid.

[Why The Face]

Currently, I am in Pattaya. What a disappointment this place is. I will describe Pattaya culturally. Imagine there was a mental institution in Thailand where they gathered the world's people including local Thai's. Then everyone was set free with the Thai's running the businesses. This is Pattaya. I have only been here a few days and I am feeling retarded myself. I could play insane looking at wall and laughing to myself better than anywhere else I have been and could fit in well. I have actually been this way with people laughing with me. The layers of crap and contempt are overwhelming. I was expecting contempt but this is too much. People make you feel like they are doing you a favor for answering questions and you are rude for not buying anything. I spoke to 2 well adjusted foreigners and even they described this place as crap. I asked why they lived here and they didn't even know? I am not catching the vibe of the bowing, indirect Thai's as well. The language barrier is worse than The Philippines and even the ones with English play stupid when you try to ask a direct question. People don't look happy here and the police feel hostile and worn down from dealing with everything. I have been calm and speaking slowly as well and this makes a difference but not much. The eye contact amongst the foreigners in Pattaya tell the story. No reason to continue in Thailand. To get away from contempt I would have to sacrifice too much infrastructure and language. I can sense this already. I probably won't even have sex in Pattaya. Maybe just a massage. I am not saying there aren't great hookers in Pattaya. I just can't get comfortable to find out. Next! I will use my time here for relaxation and planning. Also it is hotter in Pattaya than anywhere I was in the Philippines. I am headed off to Shanghai on Friday. After China I am headed to Vietnam. After that probably Barcelona and then down the coast of Spain for one last chance with the Spanish gene. Probably other places in Europe as well. About half of the apartment owners I rented from in Medellin lived in Spain. Maybe they know something. We shall see.

Mr E, you are my long lost brother and don't even realize it. I have to ride you a little though. How can you post pictures in Buenos Aires, Medellin and then live in Thailand? Do tell, please. In the poor neighborhoods of Medellin I feel no foreigner contempt. It is warm and connected there. In Pattaya there are layers upon layers of contempt. You are a better man than I to be able to rise above all this crap to get quality hookers and better infrastructure. You are one of my favorite posters, bro. I appreciate your response in advance.

[David 2]

I was leaving the salon and headed to the barber shop when I got a message from some friends saying they were at The Hot Spot. This is the place we sit all day and pick up chicks. The barber shop would have to wait. As usual, literally before I could even sit down with my friends I had gotten a chick's number. This place works out so good for us that one of my buddies said he has not even been to Walking Street in 6 months. At 5:50, me JesseJames, and his friend left and went to The Golf Club for steaks. The regular grill master is on vacation and unfortunately the lady who was replacing him can not hold his jock strap on the grill.

Love your insight, Mr. E. You seem to live the life that lots of men dream about. But I don't recall ever seeing the Hot Spot. Could you please share its location?

Thanks a million.

[Cool]

Are ladyboys mixed in with real girls on Soi 7 beer gardens? Even a few of the masseuses don't look like genuine women. I know to avoid Soi 6/1 and Bukhao. Should I avoid all beer gardens altogether not near walking street?

[Old New Guy]

2) you are right that girls congregating in groups are not necessarily freelancers and may be out with friends. But it is a very fine line between p4 p and being just out on the town. I really think that 90% are available (of course not to everyone).

You are correct, but always remember that if they come to a foreigner only / notoriously P4 P club, there is a reason and is not because it's cheaper or cooler (which is not). Girls that that just go out the normal way go to a normal Thai bar or club. The ones that come to these places actually do hope to get to know a foreigner. I say hope because in most cases they are ugly, otherwise they would have got already a boyfriend, Thai or foreigner. But as you said, if there is a pretty one she may not be available, and have been convinced to join just to make the table more attractive to strangers. In many years of doing Thai disco I found that very rarely women do things without a good reason.

I have found that at Ibar / Insomnia, if she is willing to talk to you and hang out then she will also go with you. I have never had a bad experience of buying a girl drinks and then being left high and dry.

More than that. If she only wants to hang out / dance or whatever, she will tell right away. The good looking ones are not there to have people pay drinks for nothing, that's a Western and Russian specialty. Few nights ago I danced and had fun with very hot, non-resident lady at I. She said from the onset she was not available, but I guess it was better for her to have a male at the table anyway. She was friendly and smiling al the time, did not ask me to buy anything, she had plenty of money. We joked about how much her friend should have got from the young man that approached, I said 2K minimum, they approved enthusiastically launching high-five. That is the ethics of the good ones.

[Old New Guy]

My post must have been edited as I included his phone number and that I'd met him on Soi 7. I'm not sure why these details were cut out.

Oh OK, I'm sorry then, I should have imagined that was the case.

[Uncle Volodya]

Smart move. It always amazes me how some people take that taxi right down to Patts, after a 20 hour flight! I guess if you are pressed for time, or your balls look like something out of Avatar, you just need to get down there and release. To each his own.

Kumbu you always have a way with words!

SO happy you are back on the boards. And I am so lookign forward to your next FR, my friend. Pm me with the details. Maybe we can meet up??

I never see a thick thighed girl without thinking of your lengthy discussions of the joys of "leg meat". 555.