Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[Some American]

As I used to monger in very different ways from you all guys this is the major differences that I noted.

I have been coming in and out of Thailand for the last 15 yrs, staying as long as 2-3 months per trip, this is the major changes that I have noted.

Of course you have. That's why you've shared so much info with the rest of us through the years. We all appreciate that.

[ParkVille]

Usually I don't write much here, but all massages Spas in Bangkok has deteriorated 10 x times worse while prices increased 5 times to how things were used 10 years ago, all the people who still defends Bangkok haven't been to other greener pastures, even the local Thai parlors the women developed bad attitude, the last time I was in this Thai shop in Latprao the women asked an additional 2,500 baht so she could allow me to kiss her etc. , services used to be great in Sukumvit area where almost someone could guarantee a good time, now s it not longer the case I feel like the girls are overworked and quality of services are really poor, no GFEs and it s indeed very expensive.

Couldn't agree more. It's like prospecting for gold now; sometimes you find some decent pieces, but nothing like what it was before. I can say that my wallet is getting heavier now that I have no decent P4 P establishments on my radar, whereas before I had too many places to visit as a patron. However in this current situation, I'm just finding steady P4 P girls and turning it into a regular thing. This regular hookup is done preferably outside of the bar / shop, and I am not paying the high price and also gambling on quality anymore.

So basically, I think moving towards having quality regulars is so much better than rolling the dice constantly. At least in this quality deprived environment.

[Goatscrot]

As I used to monger in very different ways from you all guys this is the major differences that I noted.

I have been coming in and out of Thailand for the last 15 yrs, staying as long as 2-3 months per trip, this is the major changes that I have noted.

1 - prior to 2014 I used to pick up massage girls easily from most ordinary massage spas, success rate was at least 60%-50% they were much more interested to earn extra money, yes sex on the venues were not allowed but many agreed to meet me after work, they were financially hungry looking for extra money to send home or trip to somewhere nice, I remember this Isaan woman.

Who even came to my room twice for 2000 baht plus tips, girls used to be more caring and there were this aspect of GFE that made mongering fun indeed, nowadays they've developed.

The attitudes of who you think am I? Bla bla bla.

2 - premium extra services venues especially on Soi 33 - 24 was a real heaven there were huge of selection of girls, the service used to be top-top, seldom had to complain, seldom had a girl asking me to leave earlier as it s the case nowadays, the quality nowadays are so-so.

3- Thai venues around petchaburi road had better services for sure, now even a kiss is not allowed sometimes, they want you to leave ASAP, sometimes they refuse a BJ.

4- the last time I went to this Thai venue in latprao called I had a fight because shed asked for extra 2000 after I paid already 2500, didn't even allow me to touch her boobs.

5 -Stickman Bangkok already predicted this situation to happen with his article about the declining demographics.

6- since 2015 I m starting to have much more fun in other destinations like (Indonesia, Cambodia) and even southern Europe became much more fun, in Spain I had 2 hours wonderful sessions sex with a Chinese FL and a Colombian for 50 euros (2000 Baht), had an incredible session with a Jamaican chic in Barcelona for 40 euros only.

7-people used to pack their bags to head to Thailand for mongering, nowadays it s just an average destination, that s my opinion anyway.

Agree with all you have to say. Mongering here is a shadow of what it was 15 years ago. Entitled attitudes abound, fed by punters who are easy to please.

[Goatscrot]

A recent study has found that most guys fantasize about pleasing their lady and not just themselves. Because according to this study, some of the top sex fantasies for men to have are:

Performing cunnilingus on the lady - 78.1%.

Masturbating the lady - 76.4%.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/se...inally-weighs/

Perhaps you belong to that 12% of men who don't care much about pleasing their lady and orgasming her. But your attitude is a minority attitude. I think most guys, including myself, need to arouse the lady and possibly orgasm her. The pleasure needs to be mutual, or else it doesn't work well for the guy.

Girlfriend sex and P4 P sex are two different animals Dan. It's great when a P4 P gal wants to have a good time with her customer, but it's a bonus. When I am with a P4 P gal it is about me. I like to go down on a woman as well I like to finger, rub et al. But it is all involved with my experience. If she comes, great, but I'm not going to feel bad if she doesn't. In fact, I had a recent experience where an oily gal wanted anal, said she wanted to come, and pulled out a vibrator. She also told me that it takes her a long time to come. Well, that long time was about 20 straight non-stop pumping minutes of intense anal with her grinding her clit with the vibrator. And I was spent after that. Truth be told that is a bit too much work when I am paying.

When I am with a GF then her coming first is paramount. My focus is on her, but with a P4 P gal? I'm the one paying.

[Franciscass]

Truth always sounds strange, when people are used to their misconceptions. But that's not a good reason to reject it.

If you reject ideas just because they are strange, then you can never change.

Dan,

I agree on being open minded. But lets consider what's happening here. First thing to realize you are paying for a service. Second thing to remember she is working. It's her job so it's not about her having a good time it's about you having a good time. It's about your orgasm (s) not hers. You shouldn't confuse the mind set of sexual workers with the mindset of customers. It's not a romantic encounter. Of course no denying it if she seems to be enjoying what's happening it feels better and if you feel her having a good time is more likely because she has no concerns about being paid by all means pay upfront. Its no big deal. Personally I think it's more important to agree on what level of service is going to be provided as to whether the session turns out well or not, for both parties.

[EihTooms]

A recent study has found that most guys fantasize about pleasing their lady and not just themselves. Because according to this study, some of the top sex fantasies for men to have are:

Performing cunnilingus on the lady - 78.1%.

Masturbating the lady - 76.4%.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/se...inally-weighs/

Perhaps you belong to that 12% of men who don't care much about pleasing their lady and orgasming her. But your attitude is a minority attitude. I think most guys, including myself, need to arouse the lady and possibly orgasm her. The pleasure needs to be mutual, or else it doesn't work well for the guy.

"I have fantasized about having sex with a prostitute or stripper. " Cited by 39.5% of the male respondants.

And I submit fewer than 5% cited that fantasy because, oh boy, here is their chance to finally go down on a woman or masturbate her. I submit that they fantasize such a thing because of what they could have a prostitute do for them instead.

But, hey, the study didn't post results for follow up questions relating to that particular fantasy so neither one of us knows exactly what that 39.5% of male respondants had in mind, right?

Of course, we could go by the thousands of years of organized P4 P business and the millions and millions of hours men and women have spent indulging in it as a clue for what men have been buying from women sellers in this regard. And I don't believe many women sellers or business ventures have thrived or remained in business very long promoting the idea that this is where men go who want to please a woman sexually.

Just sayin'.

As a niche offering? Sure, why not. But as the predominant business model? No way. In fact, I doubt you could keep more than 2 girls out of a line up of 12 in the business if the idea was they should achieve sexual satisfaction with each of their customers. Eegadd! Most P4P women would quit that establishment and run for the hills before the end of their first shift.

[Dan7373]

I am really sorry if I sound rude and for sure everyone is free to have their own ideas. But to me all your reasoning sounds really strange.

Truth always sounds strange, when people are used to their misconceptions. But that's not a good reason to reject it.

If you reject ideas just because they are strange, then you can never change.

[Dan7373]

Dan, at the end of the day we are still the customers and it is their job to make sure we are happy campers. While I appreciate your touchy feely approach to things, I am not there to please her, although that is a bonus if she in into it. I am there for a good service and a great time, and that is what I expect for my baht. I am nice, respectful, and fun, but again at the end of the day I expect performance. She is not paying me; I am paying her. It's not her routine; it's mine.

A recent study has found that most guys fantasize about pleasing their lady and not just themselves. Because according to this study, some of the top sex fantasies for men to have are:

Performing cunnilingus on the lady - 78.1%.

Masturbating the lady - 76.4%.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/se...inally-weighs/

Perhaps you belong to that 12% of men who don't care much about pleasing their lady and orgasming her. But your attitude is a minority attitude. I think most guys, including myself, need to arouse the lady and possibly orgasm her. The pleasure needs to be mutual, or else it doesn't work well for the guy.

[Apple Court]

Normally I'd urge you to do a little more research before you post, but I think we might all be better off if you post at the same rate you did before this one.

I may have to borrow that one in the future. A hearty chortle was had indeed.

[LeLolo]

You've been to ALL massage spas in Bangkok and NEVER posted a review? Not even one? You are preposterous. While I certainly agree that there has been some decline in service in some shops and some inflation overall, your point is pure and utter horse hockey. In the last ten years prices of extras, 500/1000/1500, have not changed. Most entry prices (at the oilies) have also not changed. There are some that want a flat rate when you enter, but generally they are happy to let you tip the girl for special services.

Normally I'd urge you to do a little more research before you post, but I think we might all be better off if you post at the same rate you did before this one.

As I used to monger in very different ways from you all guys this is the major differences that I noted.

I have been coming in and out of Thailand for the last 15 yrs, staying as long as 2-3 months per trip, this is the major changes that I have noted.

1 - prior to 2014 I used to pick up massage girls easily from most ordinary massage spas, success rate was at least 60%-50% they were much more interested to earn extra money, yes sex on the venues were not allowed but many agreed to meet me after work, they were financially hungry looking for extra money to send home or trip to somewhere nice, I remember this Isaan woman.

Who even came to my room twice for 2000 baht plus tips, girls used to be more caring and there were this aspect of GFE that made mongering fun indeed, nowadays they've developed.

The attitudes of who you think am I? Bla bla bla.

2 - premium extra services venues especially on Soi 33 - 24 was a real heaven there were huge of selection of girls, the service used to be top-top, seldom had to complain, seldom had a girl asking me to leave earlier as it s the case nowadays, the quality nowadays are so-so.

3- Thai venues around petchaburi road had better services for sure, now even a kiss is not allowed sometimes, they want you to leave ASAP, sometimes they refuse a BJ.

4- the last time I went to this Thai venue in latprao called I had a fight because shed asked for extra 2000 after I paid already 2500, didn't even allow me to touch her boobs.

5 -Stickman Bangkok already predicted this situation to happen with his article about the declining demographics.

6- since 2015 I m starting to have much more fun in other destinations like (Indonesia, Cambodia) and even southern Europe became much more fun, in Spain I had 2 hours wonderful sessions sex with a Chinese FL and a Colombian for 50 euros (2000 Baht), had an incredible session with a Jamaican chic in Barcelona for 40 euros only.

7-people used to pack their bags to head to Thailand for mongering, nowadays it s just an average destination, that s my opinion anyway.

[Franciscass]

I would say the only way someone with at least a passing experience with P4 P virtually anywhere in the world and Thailand in particular could possibly conclude that paying the girls the bulk of their money upfront will likely result in better service all around is by applying really strange reasoning to the subject.

I feel in Dan's case it's more that he feels at ease by paying in advance. Most of us don't believe it's necessary but if it makes sense for him go for it. Incidentally I like his non confrontational style of arguing his point of view.

[Juicyclamlover]

Usually I don't write much here, but all massages Spas in Bangkok has deteriorated 10 x times worse while prices increased 5 times to how things were used 10 years ago, all the people who still defends Bangkok haven't been to other greener pastures, even the local Thai parlors the women developed bad attitude, the last time I was in this Thai shop in Latprao the women asked an additional 2,500 baht so she could allow me to kiss her etc. , services used to be great in Sukumvit area where almost someone could guarantee a good time, now s it not longer the case I feel like the girls are overworked and quality of services are really poor, no GFEs and it s indeed very expensive.

Utter crap.

[EihTooms]

I am really sorry if I sound rude and for sure everyone is free to have their own ideas. But to me all your reasoning sounds really strange.

I would say the only way someone with at least a passing experience with P4 P virtually anywhere in the world and Thailand in particular could possibly conclude that paying the girls the bulk of their money upfront will likely result in better service all around is by applying really strange reasoning to the subject.

[Christian G]

Dan, at the end of the day we are still the customers and it is their job to make sure we are happy campers. While I appreciate your touchy feely approach to things, I am not there to please her, although that is a bonus if she in into it. I am there for a good service and a great time, and that is what I expect for my baht. I am nice, respectful, and fun, but again at the end of the day I expect performance. She is not paying me; I am paying her. It's not her routine; it's mine.

Totally agree with you! nothing more to add.

[Some American]

Usually I don't write much here, but all massages Spas in Bangkok has deteriorated 10 x times worse while prices increased 5 times to how things were used 10 years ago, all the people who still defends Bangkok haven't been to other greener pastures, even the local Thai parlors the women developed bad attitude, the last time I was in this Thai shop in Latprao the women asked an additional 2,500 baht so she could allow me to kiss her etc. , services used to be great in Sukumvit area where almost someone could guarantee a good time, now s it not longer the case I feel like the girls are overworked and quality of services are really poor, no GFEs and it s indeed very expensive.

You've been to ALL massage spas in Bangkok and NEVER posted a review? Not even one? You are preposterous. While I certainly agree that there has been some decline in service in some shops and some inflation overall, your point is pure and utter horse hockey. In the last ten years prices of extras, 500/1000/1500, have not changed. Most entry prices (at the oilies) have also not changed. There are some that want a flat rate when you enter, but generally they are happy to let you tip the girl for special services.

Normally I'd urge you to do a little more research before you post, but I think we might all be better off if you post at the same rate you did before this one.