Seoul

[RainMania]

Are people in Seoul really paying South East Asian escorts $300 per shot??

Looking on massage republic and virtually every SEA girl is asking for that.

For that kind of money, you can book a weekend flight to most SEA countries and have an overnight threesome!

Two of the girls advertising were offering lower rates last year, one was even willing to do 2 shots for 240 k won. What the heck is going on in the Seoul indie scene?

[RainMania]

Agree that performances can be hot or miss.

But officetel girls aren't really about the performance. It's about the age they are or the age they can claim to be, that's where the value is.

Most RLD girls, even the 588 ones, will never pass for anything under 28-30, which is practically grandma age in the eyes of Korean mongerers who would rather settle for a 22 year old NF (new face). They'll have better luck in anmas, but they'll have to get used to not being the boss, and not deciding who to fuck for the most part.

I also agree that RLDs offer the best bang for buck, but something tells me if these girls move into the officetel scene, the pimps won't be charging RLD rates, the potential for greed is just too much. Then again, the only way RLD girls would be able to adequately compete with officetel girls (younger ones) on any meaningful level, would be to offer RLD rates in officetels, but I doubt the pimps will be having any of that. Either way, most 588 girls are screwed once the place finally shuts down.

As we all know, each RLD zone has its own characteristics on how it deals with foreigners.

Miari - Very friendly
588 - go fuck yourself you disgusting foreign ballbag
Cheonho - Weary but accepting
Suwon A row - Go fuck yourself you diseased invader
Incheon yellow house - Indifferent, but accepting.

I don't know who sets the tone at these zones, but I once met a Miari girl who worked at Suwon RLD. She was A-row material (7/10), and wasn't surprised when I told her about my experiences in suwon. In Miari, she was more than happy to BBFS, take a creampie and CIM from the foreigner, but in Suwon she wouldn't have looked my way.

So maybe the stuck-ups at 588 might lighten up once they realize they aren't the salt of the earth, and that earning cash is more important than some misplaced pride. Time will tell.

[KgirlPower]

Some girls are duds and some great. Some officetel chicks are so so and just lie there like some dead zombie.

As for rates. RLDs are the cheapest of the FS types so not sure what your talking unless your counting 1 HR time rates.

As for foreignors service. Its really weird if you compare US kgirl service to Korea Kgril serivice. The same kgirls who work in Korea who don't DFK, rim, CIM, or offer anytype of GFE but get them to US they suddenly have no problems kissing like lost lovers, CIM with snowballing, rimming etc. And the rate is pretty much the same around 250. Not sure what the kgirls share in incalls and room salons in Korea is but in US the girls take home 150 of the 250. I'm guessing Korea is maybe 100? So for that 50 difference the kgirls offer way more service and better attitude and most of the girls who work in US are top tier room salon girls so look really hot. And they fuck blacks, hispanics, whites, with no problem so not sure why the limited foriegn service in Korea is.

Some of the girls might be good enough for anmas, but they'll need a serious attitude readjustment if they are to survive that kind of environment.

They're delusional if they believe they're officetel quality. There are plenty of willing girls under 24 in the officetel scene. RLD girls won't be able to compete, unless they offer significantly lower rates.

I think most of them will shift over to other RLDs, some might go independent (Korean only LOL), the lucky ones might end up abroad.

These gals don't realize the potential goldmine they could have with foreign mongerers. Maybe if they shift to more foreigner friendly sites, their attitudes might change. The mamasans at Miari will definitely snuff that bullshit out.

[RainMania]

So went back and asked few girls and looks like 588 is going to disappear in a year or two.

Girls told me the area is being developed and like Yeongdopo everyone is being pushed out. Some of the girls don't know when they will be gone. Few said they might have to do anmas or offictels service route.

Sucks but it is what it is.

Some of the girls might be good enough for anmas, but they'll need a serious attitude readjustment if they are to survive that kind of environment.

They're delusional if they believe they're officetel quality. There are plenty of willing girls under 24 in the officetel scene. RLD girls won't be able to compete, unless they offer significantly lower rates.

I think most of them will shift over to other RLDs, some might go independent (Korean only LOL), the lucky ones might end up abroad.

These gals don't realize the potential goldmine they could have with foreign mongerers. Maybe if they shift to more foreigner friendly sites, their attitudes might change. The mamasans at Miari will definitely snuff that bullshit out.

[Niteluvr]

I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.

A lot of the buildings indeed are marked for demo, some cases a girl would have both establishments either side of her marked for demolition, and she would still look uninterested as mongerers walk by, Korean mongerers included.

None of that has beckoned the girls there to call out to me though. Even the fat and old ones give a look of disdain as I walk by.

I don't know which RLD is worse for non-East Asian looking foreigners, Suwon or 588. Both have some attractive prospects, but man their attitudes are rotten. I won't class Suwon "be" row, because you could walk through 3 times in one night and not find a provider under 50.

Incheon Yellow House, Miari and Cheonho still remain foreigner friendly, with good service available at 70-90 k (100 for cheonho). I'll scout Yeongdeungpo to see if I can score there.

Indie scene is still dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.

There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!

Good luck out there!

How is Mi-ah-lee? Seems the RLDs are all but dead, Itaewon has trannies, so where is the FS action at?

[KgirlPower]

So went back and asked few girls and looks like 588 is going to disappear in a year or two.

Girls told me the area is being developed and like Yeongdopo everyone is being pushed out. Some of the girls don't know when they will be gone. Few said they might have to do anmas or offictels service route.

Sucks but it is what it is.

I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.

A lot of the buildings indeed are marked for demo, some cases a girl would have both establishments either side of her marked for demolition, and she would still look uninterested as mongerers walk by, Korean mongerers included.

None of that has beckoned the girls there to call out to me though. Even the fat and old ones give a look of disdain as I walk by.

I don't know which RLD is worse for non-East Asian looking foreigners, Suwon or 588. Both have some attractive prospects, but man their attitudes are rotten. I won't class Suwon "be" row, because you could walk through 3 times in one night and not find a provider under 50.

Incheon Yellow House, Miari and Cheonho still remain foreigner friendly, with good service available at 70-90 k (100 for cheonho). I'll scout Yeongdeungpo to see if I can score there.

Indie scene is still dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.

There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!

Good luck out there!

[JookMeUp]

Lately on bpage there has been a rotating group of Thai escorts based at a popular Itaewon hotel. The email address is something like modelbangkokescorts. Rates are cheaper than many other escort options, but I haven't tried them yet. Has anyone tried Pita, Maya, Chon, Areeya and whoever the other girls are? Were they worth the money & effort?

There's also a half-NZ half-Japanese girl who only advertises on bpage. I don't know what her rates are but her photos look great. Has anyone tried her and can recommend or badmouth her?

[Ewalb]

Hey guys,

coming back to KR after a long break anyone got info on kiss bangs currently available in Hongdae? I know they close often. Also is there any play to be had in myeongdong going to be my first time staying there. Thanks all!

[Ctsvj]

Hi RainMania,

Can you do me a favor and suggest me something safe and fun (even Nuru) in Seoul. I am traveling for the first time there and would like to do my research before.

Thanks. You can PM me.

Some people just can't be trusted with displaying appropriate behavior at these places.

Some mongers overpay and overtip the girls. Which distorts the field for future foreigners.

Some mongers don't know the etiquette at these places, it usually only takes one or two badly behaved guys to put an establishment off accepting foreigners for a few months, if not for good.

I've even heard stories of mongers advising independents (back when the scene was good) to UP THEIR PRICES, which sounds completely nuts.

Then there are those who lurk and leech, but don't post any information on their own adventures in Seoul.

All in all, if I were to find a good place, I'd share it in PMs with those who have access to the service, but you have to assume that everyone you tell will also pass that info on to someone else.

If I were to find a golden provider or establishment though, chances are I won't share it too. It's just the way things are.

[RainMania]

I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.

There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!

Good luck out there!

I should also clarify the provider I'm referring to is not BBW Trixie. This one goes by the name Saera or something similar.

[RainMania]

I was at 588 during the day a few weeks back. Looked miserable as fuck.

A lot of the buildings indeed are marked for demo, some cases a girl would have both establishments either side of her marked for demolition, and she would still look uninterested as mongerers walk by, Korean mongerers included.

None of that has beckoned the girls there to call out to me though. Even the fat and old ones give a look of disdain as I walk by.

I don't know which RLD is worse for non-East Asian looking foreigners, Suwon or 588. Both have some attractive prospects, but man their attitudes are rotten. I won't class Suwon "be" row, because you could walk through 3 times in one night and not find a provider under 50.

Incheon Yellow House, Miari and Cheonho still remain foreigner friendly, with good service available at 70-90 k (100 for cheonho). I'll scout Yeongdeungpo to see if I can score there.

Indie scene is still dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.

There's a middle aged provider that advertises on CL every once in a while. Her ad reads something like "not looking for a BF etc" and she posts her kik ID. I can vouch for her, not a stunner (a bit on the thick side), but she gives a mean BJ and can ride like a proper pro. She doesn't clock watch either, has a bubbly persona, and her rates are 120 k. DO NOT ASK OR ADVISE HER TO RAISE HER RATES!

Good luck out there!

[PegInThePoke]

Are there any houses that are still open by now? Did you see even one or two that were open?

All I was trying to convey is that it was shrinking. By what I consider to be a fair degree.

I worry it will go the way of Yongsan.

[PegInThePoke]

Some shops in the obscure areas looked closed but majority of the shops and the main ones were all open and busy as usual. No indication its closing down anytime soon. BBFS seem less though. I've been striking out. Last 3 girls all said no. Even offered to give my money back. Not sure why. Maybe there was an outbreak of std I'm not aware of?

I certainly didn't mean to suggest that it was tiny now, but since last month, easily about 12 or more shops have been marked up for demolition. Yes, the main "T-Section" nerve is still there, and probably will be like that for a while.

[KgirlPower]

Some shops in the obscure areas looked closed but majority of the shops and the main ones were all open and busy as usual. No indication its closing down anytime soon. BBFS seem less though. I've been striking out. Last 3 girls all said no. Even offered to give my money back. Not sure why. Maybe there was an outbreak of std I'm not aware of?

Are there any houses that are still open by now? Did you see even one or two that were open?

[VagBond]

Went by there yesterday (was there last month) and it looks like a whole bunch of new buildings and windows have been marked for demolition. Looks like it is almost shrinking down to half its size.

Are there any houses that are still open by now? Did you see even one or two that were open?