East China - Shanghai

[The Guy]

If a sauna has a strict no-tip policy, there's good reason for it. Makes no sense to violate the policy.

[NorthSouth]

Just because something is the accepted way to do things in a locale does not mean that it is always the right thing to do. And choosing to not observe it is not a ghastly violation of national sovereignty or condemnation of the way of those people. To take the argument to a more extreme level, do you ignore all the things around the world that are grievous violation of human right or women's right, and say " Well. That is the local's way, so that is quite alright"? I hope you are as culturally understanding when you are sitting in the kettle of boiling water, while the local cannibals salt it to taste.

[Waldeck2]

Parasitius, I guess you must have a firm position your boss should never give you a raise or a year end bonus for a job well done. Perhaps those offers had never been extended to you. If they did, you definitely should refuse firmly . Those are so corrupting. And you don't deserve anything anyway. But, strangely and contradictory, you mentioned in your rant a connection between service and gratuity.

And FYI, I do not tip automatically, but if I felt that the girl had done a good job, I would like to show that I noticed and appreciated it. You can do whatever you want. I do not call your attitude that of a cheap skate, so do not label a simple token of appreciation as corruption of a culture.

If you both have wechat you can transfer money through Wechat. Not rocket science.

[ThingStick]

Parasitius, I guess you must have a firm position your boss should never give you a raise or a year end bonus for a job well done. Perhaps those offers had never been extended to you. If they did, you definitely should refuse firmly . Those are so corrupting. And you don't deserve anything anyway. But, strangely and contradictory, you mentioned in your rant a connection between service and gratuity.

And FYI, I do not tip automatically, but if I felt that the girl had done a good job, I would like to show that I noticed and appreciated it. You can do whatever you want. I do not call your attitude that of a cheap skate, so do not label a simple token of appreciation as corruption of a culture.

Uh, actually, I'm with Parasitius on this one. It doesn't matter what you think. You're in China. Try to leave a 20 on the table of most mom and pop noodle shops, and watch them chase you down the street to give it back.

Tips are widely, not accepted in China, and if the shop people say you shouldn't give them tips, then don't give them tips.

It's not your right to say what is and isn't acceptable in a country that isn't yours.

They refused, so you should respect the way they do business, and leave it at that.

Vote with your money and feet and go back if it's so special to you.

[NorthSouth]

Parasitius, I guess you must have a firm position your boss should never give you a raise or a year end bonus for a job well done. Perhaps those offers had never been extended to you. If they did, you definitely should refuse firmly . Those are so corrupting. And you don't deserve anything anyway. But, strangely and contradictory, you mentioned in your rant a connection between service and gratuity.

And FYI, I do not tip automatically, but if I felt that the girl had done a good job, I would like to show that I noticed and appreciated it. You can do whatever you want. I do not call your attitude that of a cheap skate, so do not label a simple token of appreciation as corruption of a culture.

[BionicMan]

Hello,

I am looking for some good massage parlors (which provides extra services) around the Pudong area. If you know any, please let me know.

Yes, we all know. All written here. That is why and how we know.

[Parasitius]

2. I had GFE and a great time, I wanted to tip the girls, but disallowed. The last time, I went back to the locker to get some money and asked if I could have the girl came out so I can give her the extra money that she well deserved. The manager refused. Today I took the money in my hand (I had to do the naked walk), but was told I could not bring cash (or any valuables) into the play area. I was directed back to the locker to leave te money there. I really felt bad that I could not show my appreciation after such a great session. The girls were really short-changed by such practice.

Why the fuq can't people respect the culture of the country they are residing in? It is a Chinese business for pete's sakes, if it was specially accommodating foreigners that'd be one thing and you could go right ahead and corrupt it for the rest of it like so many before (Angeles City, Philippines + way too many Americans, for example? They say 'tip tip' but don't actually understand the concept has any connection to service).

Not trying to start an argument so I'm probably not going to write more but. Gosh. There is no such thing as a "well deserved x" when x don't exist. That's all.

It's very heartening to know Sacrosa is still around, haven't been since 2009 and doubted it could possibly exist in this day and age still. In that regard, thanks for helping me have high hopes I can go back to SH for a nice visit one day!

[NorthSouth]

This afternoon was the third time I visited Sacrosa. All three times I had great times with the visits.

1. The place is very easy to get to by subway, so you can avoid taxi rip off. Around the block if you get off at Shangcheng Road station of Line 9.

2. All three times I had great GFE. Today I chose 516, from Harbin. Look wise maybe 6-7, She was a real MILF though. And service was outstanding, attentive and unhurried. Recommended.

3. I had a busy morning and afternoon. I did not have time for lunch. I left work early and go monger. I was a little hungry. I was offered snacks, gratis. Some of the choices were dumplings or noodles. I had a hearty bowl of noodles with pork chop.

4. The place was in a high rent commercial area and the decor and fixings were decent and clean.

I had the great GFE, and the snack, all for 600 rmb. Must be one of the top value play in Shanghai. Granted the girls are not as pretty as those in Bodi or Kang Ding.

There two things I do not like:

1.ComMon. Shower area before you can change in the sauna uniform and a long naked walk with a bunch of guys.

2. I had GFE and a great time, I wanted to tip the girls, but disallowed. The last time, I went back to the locker to get some money and asked if I could have the girl came out so I can give her the extra money that she well deserved. The manager refused. Today I took the money in my hand (I had to do the naked walk), but was told I could not bring cash (or any valuables) into the play area. I was directed back to the locker to leave te money there. I really felt bad that I could not show my appreciation after such a great session. The girls were really short-changed by such practice.

[MongerBro]

Hello,

I am looking for some good massage parlors (which provides extra services) around the Pudong area. If you know any, please let me know.

[Rain Shanghai]

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[FarFarEast89]

Hey all,

Another thing, did anyone actually check around the Jiashan. Zhejiang area (it is 1.30 hrs from Shanghai by car).

I stayed in World Expo Hotel over there and they had a sauna there called Maya (Like the ancients). And when I went to the reception to ask, the reception offered FS B2B for 798, didn't actually try them out, but feel like I might this time?

Did anyone actually stayed around there and checked out scene?

[FarFarEast89]

Thanks for the info man!

Actually I am accessing ISG from mainland China for some, I thought it was blocked no?

I was bombarded by Wechat requests when used the nearby me option, but I was highly skeptical as the girls were too beautiful going for prices of 1000 RMB per HR. Might be true, might be not, but the upselling issue was always reported in previous posts.

Actually, might try one of the out-call options you mentioned, or might not and just go to new sauna place.

The link you posted on with shy. Org had great sauna locations, and was able to figure out the texts using translate.

Tang Dynasty and Red House were there as well, plus there we some additional places in Yangpu district and Rhyme Hotel or something (haha). Also I have been seeing the Bodi and Siyuan posts recently, are they any decent?

Which sauna had the best track record recently?

Great report!

For outcall you have 3 english speaking options.

SNG, raininshanghai.com, helenandfriends.com.

Most chinese / craiglist / wechat alternatives have a lower starting price but will most often end up with upselling requests and a poor experience.

[NorthSouth]

Carage posted about the new tier pricing system in SiYuan I thought I read somewhere SiYuan and Bodi are owed by the same boss. Would that mean Bodi will have the same tier system (a thinly disguised price increase) ?

[Sinofaguo]

Great report!

For outcall you have 3 english speaking options.

SNG, raininshanghai.com, helenandfriends.com.

Most chinese / craiglist / wechat alternatives have a lower starting price but will most often end up with upselling requests and a poor experience.

It was a small Sauna place on the cross-intersection of Zhoujin Rd. And S. Henan Rd. Right next to Merchant's Bank, but you have to contact them actually enter, of course. Actually, I was directed there from SNG website (which I stumbled upon on google), where I used one of the free sauna information (didn't feel like signing up), the sauna place had the name of Dongguan Model club or something. They have like average of 15 girls at max at 1 rotation, I believe you can ask them for more. The manager guy actually had good English, to understand and discuss. It is not a spanking new place so don't expect high luxury place.

They had tiered system with girls ranging from be to models.

Entered the changing area, changed into funny looking shorts and shirts, then ushered into the selection area. Here is the tricky part and you are there with 20-30 pairs of eyes looking at you, which at first felt bit uncomfortable.

I had S class girl and paid around 1198 yuans for the service. Full 80 minutes + nuru and all the full package. Be-s were starting from 698 I think, but not up to my taste. Had the S61 girl. Solid 7 with slender build great racks but chest area not so big. Be+ at the most. And she was a great performer, able to go twice with OK massage and general relaxed non-rushed service. Of course, it is a sauna place so don't expect any GFE (its more mechanical).

Never tried the out-call in Shanghai and kindly asking anyone care to give some recommendations.

[FarFarEast89]

Thanks for the heads up, I guess I got bit lazy and wanted to be spoon fed.

Regarding my visit:

It was a small Sauna place on the cross-intersection of Zhoujin Rd. And S. Henan Rd. Right next to Merchant's Bank, but you have to contact them actually enter, of course. Actually, I was directed there from SNG website (which I stumbled upon on google), where I used one of the free sauna information (didn't feel like signing up), the sauna place had the name of Dongguan Model club or something. They have like average of 15 girls at max at 1 rotation, I believe you can ask them for more. The manager guy actually had good English, to understand and discuss. It is not a spanking new place so don't expect high luxury place.

They had tiered system with girls ranging from be to models.

Entered the changing area, changed into funny looking shorts and shirts, then ushered into the selection area. Here is the tricky part and you are there with 20-30 pairs of eyes looking at you, which at first felt bit uncomfortable.

I had S class girl and paid around 1198 yuans for the service. Full 80 minutes + nuru and all the full package. Be-s were starting from 698 I think, but not up to my taste. Had the S61 girl. Solid 7 with slender build great racks but chest area not so big. Be+ at the most. And she was a great performer, able to go twice with OK massage and general relaxed non-rushed service. Of course, it is a sauna place so don't expect any GFE (its more mechanical).

Never tried the out-call in Shanghai and kindly asking anyone care to give some recommendations.

Hope this helps.

1/ Why asking for tips when they are already available for read on this thread, some of them just a few posts below yours.

2/ What use will other posters make from your post when all there is to read is that you went to yuyuan for 1200 rmb? How about a decent report (type of the place / name / address / experience there, etc.