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[Combo]

I have watched 3 minutes and am amazed at just how well these reporters got a handle on the issues.

Wish some of the mainline media did as well.

Brazilians sure know how to fuck (themselves) but wonder in this case if they also might have had a little help from their Northern neighbor who was pissed that Olympics was not being held in their equality crime-ridden central USA city.

I'm from Chicago and I was relieved and happy that we didn't get the Olympics. And every one I know here felt the same way.

Exactly how has Brasil been helped (fucking themselves) by the US?

[Rio6160]

Maybe good for mongers now! But that will depend on how the airlines react.

Airline prices go any higher, that will kill what left of the monger scene. Right now next year showing about $1,500 out of Atlanta. Needs to be in the $900 range. Goes up to over $2,000 then its not worth it.

[Exec Talent]

At least it's still a good time to monger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhP9ZCTsUM

I have watched 3 minutes and am amazed at just how well these reporters got a handle on the issues.

Wish some of the mainline media did as well.

Brazilians sure know how to fuck (themselves) but wonder in this case if they also might have had a little help from their Northern neighbor who was pissed that Olympics was not being held in their equality crime-ridden central USA city.

[Safado69]

At least it's still a good time to monger.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhP9ZCTsUM

[Rodeo9112]

To start a new thread, do you have to be a paid member or can only Admin do it? How do you contact Admin if their inbox is always full?

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[Safado69]

I think someone reported before that they used their card in 4 X4 and later there was fraud on it.

I received a fraud alert from AMEX last week. Evidently the transactions originated from Brazil. The people attempted to spend $700+ with a SA airline and also book a hotel in Peru for $400. I was last in Brazil in April and only used the card at 4 x4 and Monte Carlo. It was really strange that they waited 2 months after the vacation to take advantage of the card. The AMEX representative was extremely helpful and said not to let his spoil my weekend and everything will be taken care of. I "suspect" it is one of the smiling faces at Monte Carlo and I plan to tell Ivan the manager when I see him next week as this has happened to me before. 4 x4 at least the owners are usually around the reception / cashier so that may be a deterrent. Sorry for not posting about this experience before the question and hope this helps others.

[Mr Enternational]

I think you will be fine using a credit card at the termas in terms of fraud. BUT they do often have a 10% surcharge or worse if using a credit card.

I think someone reported before that they used their card in 4 X4 and later there was fraud on it.

[Junior]

Is the use of credit cards at termas or clinicas significantly more risky than most other businesses? Does it vary widely from one terma or clinica to another? If so, are there any you would recommend against?

Also, are there any reasons beyond the danger of fraud and the protection of privacy against using cards there?

I think you will be fine using a credit card at the termas in terms of fraud. BUT they do often have a 10% surcharge or worse if using a credit card.

[BackDoorD]

Is the use of credit cards at termas or clinicas significantly more risky than most other businesses? Does it vary widely from one terma or clinica to another? If so, are there any you would recommend against?

Also, are there any reasons beyond the danger of fraud and the protection of privacy against using cards there?

Termas and clinicas are all safe to use your credit card. Ensure you've got a chip in your credit card. If you don't have a chip, you will get your card cloned at some point, most likely at a restaurant. At restaurants always make sure the waiter brings the credit card machine to you, and don't let him take your card.

Most CC cloning happens at the generic bank machines (they're called "24 horas") in supermarkets, malls, etc. The banks are all very safe. In the event your card is used without your permission at house if ill repute, when you complain, the house risks its use of that credit card going forward, so it's not worth it for them.

Even some independents take cards now. A company called PagoSeguro has a small handheld device that allows anyone to accept cards, and cost about are $700 so they are quite affordable. These are also very safe.

[AllTooHorny]

Is the use of credit cards at termas or clinicas significantly more risky than most other businesses? Does it vary widely from one terma or clinica to another? If so, are there any you would recommend against?

Also, are there any reasons beyond the danger of fraud and the protection of privacy against using cards there?

[Jan 156]

Well, I'm visiting both countries shortly. I'm just entertaining the idea of speaking to girls in terms of their needs instead of just dollars / pesos. I think this would especially be effective with semi / non pros. If I'm small talking with a non pro at a bar and she keeps emphasizing that she needs to buy groceries for her mom, I'd like to know what a cart of groceries costs so I don't offer 150 mil COP, when 40 mil would do the trick. Or, for her to tell me groceries cost 150 mil, and I agree not knowing the scale. Just trying to increase my understanding of costs and needs. Nothing more cosmic than that!

Fair enough. But not sure it wil work quite like that in the modern Brazilian cities. Common stories for needing money are medical bills for a mother (imposible to estimate). I would maybe take a non-pro shopping at the supermarket if we were going back to her place. I think you would have to be incredibly smooth just to give a non-pro money for groceries without it sounding patronisingly rude. Getting cash from foreigners is programa, usually in exchange for sex or in exchange for sfa, so the only interest is the actual amount. Brazilians in the main cities are not exactly dumb. They can think fast and manipulate emotions as easy as falling off a log. You could maybe use the 'shopping money' ruse if both of you really know it is a euphemism for something else. If you are talking with most non-pros and you are neither a great dancer or have great Portuguese, it is likely hat they are highly educated enough to speak English and have a lot more hot prospects than a foreigner popping in for a short time. Supermarket prices are fairly stable, only slightly cheaper in poor areas. Home produce is understandably cheaper whereas posh French cheese is obviously very expensive. Go down a supermarket to buy some beers to have a look (beers are very cheap compared to what you pay in any tourist bar! There's always the BigMac index of course.

Medellin Colombia is a bit different depending where you go. I don't think the shopping basket idea will help much, but good luck. Very little English spoken outside of Poblado, Medellin that I've come across. In Rio, a little English spoken in Copacabana and sex places frequented by tourists and not that much elsewhere. In SP often a casa manager will speak a bit of English and may recommend a girl that speaks English if they have one for instance. Given the high level of sophistication in much of SP they would possibly find your idea of 'helping out' a little amusing and then move on. It's not exactly the Philippines!

[Rodeo9112]

It's a strange request Rodeo, and one you've just posted in the Colombia board as well. Why?

Are you planning to sugar-daddy a chica and choosing a country to hit on?

Well, I'm visiting both countries shortly. I'm just entertaining the idea of speaking to girls in terms of their needs instead of just dollars / pesos. I think this would especially be effective with semi / non pros. If I'm small talking with a non pro at a bar and she keeps emphasizing that she needs to buy groceries for her mom, I'd like to know what a cart of groceries costs so I don't offer 150 mil COP, when 40 mil would do the trick. Or, for her to tell me groceries cost 150 mil, and I agree not knowing the scale. Just trying to increase my understanding of costs and needs. Nothing more cosmic than that!

[Sperto]

It's a strange request Rodeo, and one you've just posted in the Colombia board as well. Why?
Are you planning to sugar-daddy a chica and choosing a country to hit on?

I miss your quality reports in the Brazil forum.

[Jan 156]

It's a strange request Rodeo, and one you've just posted in the Colombia board as well. Why?

Are you planning to sugar-daddy a chica and choosing a country to hit on?

[Rodeo9112]

Just wondering if anyone with insight knows what a working girl's true needs are. Specifically, can we get costs on the following bills from the barrios (in BRL)?

-Electricity.

-Water.

-Gas.

-Groceries (family of 5).

-Childcare.

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-Milk (baby formula).

-Airline ticket (say, Roundtrip Rio-Salvador).

-Clinic checkup (OBGYN).

-Low cost hotel for visiting working girls.

-Hair salon appointment.

I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?

Please feel free to add anything I missed!

Rodeo