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07-11-16 15:32 #20184
Posts: 1205Originally Posted by TomSf [View Original Post]
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07-11-16 15:22 #20183
Posts: 3163Originally Posted by BionicMan [View Original Post]
Those are all reason you yourself gave, But I was asking the original poster, I'm looking at the bill and do not see where it would indicate that this bill belongs to a Asian group. I've seen Non-Asians throwing ping pongs, I've seen Non-Asians buy drinks in groups and split bills, I've seen Non-Asians pay Bar-Fine and service upfront, I've seen Non-Asian pay under and above the market. Where on the bill indicates this is a Asian group? And finally where in my question suggest I might be against a person " spending money if they have it? " .
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07-11-16 07:15 #20182
Posts: 2502Originally Posted by BionicMan [View Original Post]
I will stay on my "one drink for me and one ladydrink for her" regime before I take her to my room and have fun with her while the bar-sponsors are racking up their bills.
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07-11-16 04:57 #20181
Posts: 6092Originally Posted by LittleBigMan [View Original Post]
1/ japanese and koreans, by "culture", tend to spend a lot in The evening Entertainment, especially on drinks.
They do this a lot At home. They Can easily do this on vacation in LOS where drinks are cheaper and they are there to have fun.
2/ Japanese and Korean tend to go out in groups, easily 3-5, one pays or all goes under one tab, hence a large bill.
Split that bill in 3-5 and it gets down to a more "reasonable" spending capacity of each individual.
There have been nights when I spent 2/2500 baht in two people in a bar, and I am not a drinker.
What's wrong in spending money if you have it and want to spend it?
It is thanks to the spenders that lots of bars do exist and are around.
For the benefits of the non-spenders too as they can have them available.
I can't see a bar making a living based on 5-10 customers buying 3-4 drinks a night.
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07-11-16 04:19 #20180
Posts: 1087The sucker system
The average guy whether he's been to Pattaya once or ten times is manipulated by the whole system of opening up wallets. The top bars (aggressive drink pushers) are geared to get your money, and not provide you w / quality service. Probably half the bars I went into are aggressively pushing alcohol on me, every 4 minutes, another drink sir? The bargirls are a big part of this money grabbing system, so are the waitresses.
So when a nice guy who enjoys a few drinks walks into aggressive bars he is really up against a big machine geared to fleece him. After a few bars you're drunk and throwing money around you love everybody and that's the intention of the bars. They all work together, they all benefit from each other.
That's why the local expats don't toy w / these bars, it's a no win. They hang in the low end beer bars, day time gentlemen clubs etc, and once in a while hit WS w / visiting friends.
If you like to drink the bar will try and take control of how much you consume to get more out of your wallet and make you stupid. As you can see their system works very well.
Bangkok, Pattaya, it's not a friendly poker there unless you stay away from the aggressive gogos. The last few times in Patts I enjoyed the lower pressure at LK Metro bars. Not as many stunners (no where near) but plenty of nice women and little drink hustle.
It's the system that's the enemy, not the savvy bar girl, she's just doing what management tells her she must do.
That's my take anyway. Thailand was a letdown for me. I'll give it another go soon.
Funny side story, I was visiting a buddy in Udon Thani and we were at the Day and Night complex (20 bars in a big barn like structure). At the end of one side there was this lively sexy MILF bar girl wearing a cute hat. She got us to sit and have a drink. She was nice and of course I offered and she excepted a LD. The drinks come and I take a sip of my beer and she has her drink in hand. I turn to say something to my buddy and this liquid hits my right shoulder and face. I thought WTF was that? I turn towards her and she wiping liquid off her arm. I asked, did you just throw that drink away? She was shocked that she got caught. Yes you did, as I turned my attention she chucked the drink w / her left hand accidentally hitting me w / it. We left and did not pay for the LD. What a little snake she was. Apparently she had a bad reputation up there, my buddy read about her before that night in the local expat news.
Anyway, in Thailand if your expectations are low then you will be on easy street. OTOH if you're into high end gogos, Sensations, Happy Agogo, Bacarra etc, I forget the others because I don't patronize them, you'll get played and spend more than intended. Most stunners will not go w / you unless you're K or J.
I liked Electric Blue a hustle bar too but less so. Bikini Agogo (more user friendly) etc. In LK Metro Sugar Sugar, Champagne Agogo etc I liked those.
The sharp younger mongers might do quite well along w / the older more disciplined guys in the rip off top bars where the hottest pussy dance.
I'm unhappy in these places more times than not. I'm in awe of the beautiful Thai women (I can't have), just unbelievable. I'll figure it out someday or continue to be manipulated.
And disappointed. I don't play Soi 6, probably much easier going there. Lots of guys love it there. I like the farm fresh dancers in the gogos, I'll continue to hunt in the gogos.
Best.
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07-11-16 04:12 #20179
Posts: 6409Daytime fun?
During the day I mainly hit Soi 6, Kinnaree, and look for cute girls in MP's. Are their other options I am missing during the day to find cute girls?
Night agenda is easy to fill for me with soi 6, gogo clubs, and regular dance clubs. I also check out soapies but have yet to go with anyone since the value isn't there (ie. for 2500 I'd rather take out a gogo girl ST than pay 2500-4000 for a soapie). FYI, the only decent girls at Honey 2 now are in the 4k group.
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07-10-16 23:53 #20178
Posts: 3163Originally Posted by Haven123 [View Original Post]
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07-10-16 23:43 #20177
Posts: 16078Originally Posted by Haven123 [View Original Post]
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07-10-16 23:42 #20176
Posts: 3478Originally Posted by TomSf [View Original Post]
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07-10-16 21:48 #20175
Posts: 549Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
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07-10-16 21:07 #20174
Posts: 1582Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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07-10-16 20:25 #20173
Posts: 1087Beautiful lIFE
Originally Posted by Daddy07 [View Original Post]
On my last trip I learned halfway through to tell them I'm Korean, it always gets a big laugh which is one way to a pretty women's heart. I'm glad to read your mo and will follow in your footsteps.
As a tourist your world is not really available (for me / others) but if you have a couple of months or live there some charm / baht will make your dreams come true.
Thanks for the post. I still have hope.
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07-10-16 18:28 #20172
Posts: 364Originally Posted by Bkkdog [View Original Post]
Many guys go to Thailand themselves. They never see the girl interacting with other customers. If they did they would no be on her bragging about paying an extra 500 Baht. They would realize wow I am being treated differently than other customers. This girl is taken advantage of me and just walk away right there if she does not charge me what everyone else pays. But, because this is mostly done on a one on one discussion. Guys don't see what's going on even if other guys are telling him.
If we are talking about Pattaya with the exception of go go girls. The cost is 500-1000 baht. 1000 is the maximum. If she is charging you more it is because she either does not respect you, things you are a sucker or is repulsed by you and is demanding more money to bribe her to spend time with you. In any case be a man and stand up for yourself and walk away.
P.S, this post is on the topic of price and is not directed to Bkkdog. It is to everyone on price in general.
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07-10-16 18:21 #20171
Posts: 6409Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
Since I'm not in tourist mode I find I am very cheap with my LD's now. Even for the girls I want I am limiting them. No complaints at all from any of the girls.
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07-10-16 16:13 #20170
Posts: 3478Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]