Angeles City

[Dg8787]

Reminder for some.

Today is August 27,2016.

The past has no bearings on today.

Last night I BF on 2 separate ST occasions 7's. Both had excellent firm bodies and performed well. Both had one child each and you could not tell by their bodies. They were both pleasant and not in any rush other than the last one wanted to be home by 11 pm. I assumed for her kid but asked her why anyway. Her reply kind of surprised me but not really as I had heard it before. She said where she lived it was not safe to be outside after 11 pm. There are many neighborhoods just a few blocks away from Fields where it is not safe living after dark.

AC still provides. I was in Mischief and Fire Pit bars. About 2 out of 10 BG were what poster refer to as "fatties", these fatties were about 10-15 pounds heavier than the others. About 3 out of 10 were slim 7. 5 - 8's. These girls could go up a notch if they had better make up, face waxing, hair styling and clothes. Most stunners are 8's just made up and dressed better with nicer packaging.

To me AC still provides.

[NapaSlapper]

Thanks for the reply, yes you are one of the lucky ones and now obsessed w / how bad things are now. The way you describe it in the above post is agreeable to all. That's my issue as well (being agreeable) as what you think is acceptable in quality and others think.

Guys rate this one and that one w / out pics which makes their opinions worthless imo. A periodic photo of what's available in AC, Makati, Cebu, or BKK and Patts and the rating by the monger than we get a clear picture of what you're saying. But just throwing out numbers is almost meaningless and that's what many here do. Back up your rating and / or opinion w / a censored photo. Then I can agree or not w / you.

You mentioned earlier that AC is not worth going to any longer and that the 5's, 6's and 7's would have to pay you to fuck them. In my book a 7 is pretty nice so numbers mean shit w / no pic...

Thanks for your comments soccer, agree fully with you on many points of this post.

You are correct in the numbers we attach to girls are subjective to what one likes so of not much use in reality.

As for commenting on your girly photos, it does not matter what I or others think, you obviously liked her and enjoyed her company, that's what counts, not what others think.

As far as me posting photos, I simply do not take photos of girls, especially naked ones, never saw the attraction but again each to his own, I also feel that even if I did enjoy taking photos of naked girls I would not post them online, maybe call me old fashioned, but I like to keep my memories in my head and to myself, as already said others opinions of my girls mean little to me.

Thanks and happy mongering.

[Socker]

Socker,

With respect I will disagree with a lot of your comments, here's why.

As you have stated you have only been going to angeles a short while and then only a few trips, all of your time has been through the devastating bar raid period, so basically you have no idea what angeles was before the worst period of its history.

Many guys here including me have been visiting angeles for two decades with trips every few weeks to angeles, Let me tell you straight your claims of angeles has never had stunners is just not true, going back angeles bars were full of stunners, stunners that were naked in the bars, stunners that would dish out blow jobs for the price of a very cheap drink, sometimes even for free, body shot games, lesbian shows in bar, hell if you had been in angeles when it was possible to hold private parties in the bars where 5/6 guys were outnumbered by 50 girls then you could claim a good time could be had in angeles..

Thanks for the reply, yes you are one of the lucky ones and now obsessed w / how bad things are now. The way you describe it in the above post is agreeable to all. That's my issue as well (being agreeable) as what you think is acceptable in quality and others think.

Guys rate this one and that one w / out pics which makes their opinions worthless imo. A periodic photo of what's available in AC, Makati, Cebu, or BKK and Patts and the rating by the monger than we get a clear picture of what you're saying. But just throwing out numbers is almost meaningless and that's what many here do. Back up your rating and / or opinion w / a censored photo. Then I can agree or not w / you.

You mentioned earlier that AC is not worth going to any longer and that the 5's, 6's and 7's would have to pay you to fuck them. In my book a 7 is pretty nice so numbers mean shit w / no pic.

The long gone pizzazz of Fields, today not half of what it was on my first trip. It's too bad too but I'm sure it's the cost as you say. I guess it's okay. It's what's on the inside that counts.

On my first trip there were no raids in sight. The neon was flying bright and there were a few stunners around. A lot of UA too in the big bars, probably everywhere. A couple years later the raids started and lasted a year and a half or so. But the authorities know they're not rescuing anyone but incarcerating hard working bar girls. I think that has helped put a stop to them, plus the bars are more careful about who they employ. Did they increase the bar girl age to 20 from 18. I am pretty sure they did in Thailand.

Unfortunately on my first trip I was easy prey for the "over the hill" bar girls and my choices were amateurish. I did choose well 30% of the time but nothing like how I operate now.

Also something is happening to me and it is affecting my monger enjoyment. I'm aging and the gap is getting wider between me and my potential GF for the day. This issue has had a bad affect on my Thai visits the last year or two. The hot ones don't want to be seen w / you if your old. Not so much in the PI though fortunately. When this shit starts happening you have no choice but to lower your aim. It will happen to everyone here if they're lucky but it is a difficult process to accept. Another thing about Thailand is it's a sellers market, the BGs choose you, tell you what you can have, how long you can have it. They are the bosses and not the monger. I can do w / out Thailand like forever. AND, as another poster just stated the DDG beauties are everywhere in mostly the good gogos. Thailand really has the competition beat out easily but there are also tons and tons of mongers brown nosing them so good luck. I like a relaxing bar fine and not be on the BGs clock. That isn't available Thai hookers from the gogos, they want to get business done so they can make more money w / the next guy. That's why I'm an AC guy, none of that crap there.

Lastly, these days w / the internet exposing your paradise to all has changed the playing Field so timing, looks, charm, not to mention money is all part of the game now. Now if you happen to be an elderly Japanese man than this does not apply, same w / a young K. They have the inside track for whatever reason, they do.

My rating system is pretty high (strict) w / no such thing as a 10. The pic several post below, how would you rate her?

Thanks again, sorry I was a bit harsh in some of my past comments. All the best.

[Blanquiceleste]

Funny how attractive. Slim non bargirls are more than happy to share mine and most mongers bed mostly for much cheaper prices and many times for free but I and these same guys are not attractive enough to fuck bargirls for payment going by your wild claims.

And with all the countless posts not a shred of evidence to support these tall claims of being God's gift to the pinays.

Get real, find someone else to fool.

[Dg8787]

Had a wood fired oven Hawaiian pizza at Clarkton Hotel's restaurant for P385. It was big enough to feed two of us. The pizza was one of the best thin crust I have had.

Also I looked at the dinner buffet for P499 and it was of excellent quality.

There is good food in AC at a fair price.

[Uncle Volodya]

I am back in Patts now and the difference in quality of girls is night and day. I am rubber necking everywhere I go.

AC wasn't a total loss for me. I was able to find 2 cute girls in 3 nights which isn't all bad. Socker is right, in that you need to devote a bit more time to the place and go with the ebb and flow. 3 nights is a very short time. But anymore time spent here is less time I can spend in places where I like the girls and town better.

I guess I am just way more attracted to Thai ladies and Thailand in general. And I am lucky that I really groove with Thai girls and seem to connect with them 9/10 times. Language has never really been a barrier.

This of course is just MHO. Others will see things differently and more power to them.

I still like Pinays and will make a trip to Makati / Manila in the future to try the top shelf ladies. My first trip to PI I also had some good luck with Baddoo, but did not have the time to put into it before this trip.

[NapaSlapper]

Socker,

With respect I will disagree with a lot of your comments, here's why.

As you have stated you have only been going to angeles a short while and then only a few trips, all of your time has been through the devastating bar raid period, so basically you have no idea what angeles was before the worst period of its history.

Many guys here including me have been visiting angeles for two decades with trips every few weeks to angeles, Let me tell you straight your claims of angeles has never had stunners is just not true, going back angeles bars were full of stunners, stunners that were naked in the bars, stunners that would dish out blow jobs for the price of a very cheap drink, sometimes even for free, body shot games, lesbian shows in bar, hell if you had been in angeles when it was possible to hold private parties in the bars where 5/6 guys were outnumbered by 50 girls then you could claim a good time could be had in angeles.

Most Guys want access to plenty of the type of girls they are seeking (normally the top girls) with little to no bullshit to go with getting sex from said girls, guys do not want to have to get the timing right, troll countless bars to even see a girl they like and then have to mainly take rejection because the girls main focus is not to barfine but to earn her money other ways, that's just fact, does not matter how we try to sugar coat it it remains what it is.

Your claims of guys are not having a good time because they are not willing to spend or want bargain basement goods is simply not true, many here have claimed to have spent up to $85 us on a short time girl, I myself have paid $100 per hour for russian top girls in Moscow and left very happy indeed, so money is no excuse, most will pay handsomely for what they want but want what they want not some low grade substitute.

As for neon lights on the strip, its all still there its just that most bar owners cannot afford the electric bill to turn it on because apart from the few Koreans in town westerers have voted with their feet for other easier ways of fucking pinays or just gone to another easier destination.

[Socker]

I am in AC now and will write up a more detailed report soon.

All in all it has been a bit disappointing and the place hasin, at least in my opinion, deteriorated from the last time I was here about a year and a half ago.

Even the. It was difficult for me to find girls I was attracted to. I only find about roughly 5%. Now you have to compete with hem with swarms of Koreans. They were here before but it seems like their number has increased 10 fold.

And it is my impression that they have had a negative effect on the bar culture as well. Girls seem less accommodating and more into hustling and caging for drinks. At least the top lookers I am trying to get.

In any case this is just MHO. Take it or leave it.

I don't think I will be coming back. I am still interested in PI girls but I think Manila / Makati and the internet scene are better options for me than AC.

This assessment is straight forward and to the point w / out the whining and phony claims. AC and the days you spend there, the bars you go to all have to do w / timing. On my last few trips during the first day or two I'm thinking, oh man the quality is down, they all look undoable. And then I walk into a bar the next hour or day and boom, I'm finding decent looking dancers to enjoy. The next several days it's all going great. So for me it is timing and persistence but I would not be surprised one day to find the town void of anything cute. But it hasn't come close to that and I'm sure that I will enjoy the town in a couple of weeks. If not I'll leave early but my money says there will be some nice action. I'll do a small TR W / PICS!

On my first trip in 2009 Fields was full of great looking bars from the street. The neon lights everywhere and the energy was different. Now it is more run down looking because the bar owners know the mongers don't give a shit about the neon and glitz it once had. Everything is subject to change and it has for the worst in this regard, much less pizzazz.

As for stunners AC has never had stunners there. A pretty dancer does not make a stunner in my book. The stunners have always been in the big cities and most of them don't work as dancers in the public bars. The real stunners are w / the high rollers, but Makati has extremely pretty items available at times.

During my 10 trips to AC I've only seen pretty dancers and zero stunners. Early on most of the top dancers were bar finable and now they're not especially to westerners. That isn't breaking news, it's been that way for years now. It is what it is and I have found a way to have fun there. The cost and the innocence of some of the dancers makes it a very desirable town to visit. Period.

This board is for the sharing of info on our pursuit of punanny. Never made it to PI and was hoping to find some useful intel here. Took wading through nearly 30 pages of whining, bickering and general BS to find any relevant intel.

Sad to say that this mostly made my mind up. At least for now ill be sticking with Colombia Nd its dangers.

Please don't take it wrong, but lets try to keep this on topic. , a little debate is good, but 30 pages on how it aint the same as it used to be serves no purpose. Cause no place stays the same! Cheers, and safe adventures!

D,

I agree w / you that this forum is 70% crap so maybe go back 3 or 4 years and quick read. Copy the good info and put somewhere you can access it. That's what I do. I have several countries in my documents and the info comes from these boards. Where to stay, to eat, to hunt, the cost, the dangers, and if you're lucky a couple of photos. This info does not happen here on a daily basis so you need to go back.

Also take note in the posters attitude. Guys here who focus on saving money over quality purchases tend to paint the whole scene as they see it. These guys think anyone who patronizes a bar is a sucker. These guys go for the low hanging fruit (and get lucky 1 out of 10 times) and call it quality, talk is real cheap. They try and educate the rest of us at how stupid we are for barfing a nice dancer. Etc etc. That's what I was bitching about a few post down. Just because one guy hates the place doesn't mean it's horrible for everyone but they paint that picture out of their own frustration. You can't be overly picky in AC and these pro mongers should have known that years ago but they like to *****.

Anyway, Colombia is on my rotation (December) as is El Salvador (October) and I'm in Tijuana right now so I know the Latino experience. If I were forced to choose one place it would be AC. It being the most magical and satisfying. Where you help yourself and the bar worker too, a win win, these dancers are special.

So I think you should join some other boards pertaining to the PI or Thailand and get more info. There is good info here as well you just got to dig for it.

Good Luck.

[X Man]

Oh, you are a very observant chap. AC is the bollocks. Now off with you.

This board is for the sharing of info on our pursuit of punanny. Never made it to PI and was hoping to find some useful intel here. Took wading through nearly 30 pages of whining, bickering and general BS to find any relevant intel.

Sad to say that this mostly made my mind up. At least for now ill be sticking with Colombia Nd its dangers.

Please don't take it wrong, but lets try to keep this on topic. , a little debate is good, but 30 pages on how it aint the same as it used to be serves no purpose. Cause no place stays the same! Cheers, and safe adventures!

[NapaSlapper]

This board is for the sharing of info on our pursuit of punanny. Never made it to PI and was hoping to find some useful intel here. Took wading through nearly 30 pages of whining, bickering and general BS to find any relevant intel.

Sad to say that this mostly made my mind up. At least for now ill be sticking with Colombia Nd its dangers.

Please don't take it wrong, but lets try to keep this on topic. , a little debate is good, but 30 pages on how it aint the same as it used to be serves no purpose. Cause no place stays the same! Cheers, and safe adventures!

Have to totally disagree with you on relevant information to be found in the Phills forums.

Even right here on the angeles forum only going back a few pages there are many trip report, even 1 post earlier from yours there is an excellent trip report from UV giving great information on current trends.

Many members have explained everything from drinks prices. Girl prices, angeles scams, where to be careful, where to stay, where to eat, how to get to angeles, which airlines fly where, the list is so long I can't possibly mention all here.

Probably all the relevant info is contained in maybe 1 hour of reading through this board, how you can claim that you could not find relevant info and have given up on a whole country because of this is just mind blowing.

Most, if not all members here are open to answering sensible questions by private pm should one want specific answers to unusual topics / requests.

[Dtaylor1972]

This board is for the sharing of info on our pursuit of punanny. Never made it to PI and was hoping to find some useful intel here. Took wading through nearly 30 pages of whining, bickering and general BS to find any relevant intel.

Sad to say that this mostly made my mind up. At least for now ill be sticking with Colombia Nd its dangers.

Please don't take it wrong, but lets try to keep this on topic. , a little debate is good, but 30 pages on how it aint the same as it used to be serves no purpose. Cause no place stays the same! Cheers, and safe adventures!

[NapaSlapper]

I am in AC now and will write up a more detailed report soon.

All in all it has been a bit disappointing and the place hasin, at least in my opinion, deteriorated from the last time I was here about a year and a half ago.

Even the. It was difficult for me to find girls I was attracted to. I only find about roughly 5%. Now you have to compete with hem with swarms of Koreans. They were here before but it seems like their number has increased 10 fold.

And it is my impression that they have had a negative effect on the bar culture as well. Girls seem less accomodating and more into hustling and caging for drinks. At least the top lookers I am trying to get.

In any case this is just MHO. Take it or leave it.

I don't think I will be coming back. I am still interested in PI girls but I think Manila / Makati and the internet scene are better options for me than AC.

Thanks for having the courage to be honest in your reporting, I hope you have got your flame proof suit on uncle Volodya awaiting the barrage of baseless accusations, abuse from the same few members LOL.

I see that you are finding exactly what I and many have been experiencing and reporting regarding what is happening on the ground in angeles city as of now.

Going back over the last few pages it seems that most everyone who has visited recently has been reporting exactly the same things, with some members like yourself saying they will not be back to angeles due to massive drop in lookers that are available for take out.

Have to further fully agree that the Manila / Makati scene has good looking girls willing to barfine and that the Phills online scene is where the majority of punters are also heading to find what they are looking for, a wise move in my book and one I took few years back, happy mongering where ever direction you decide to head too.

[Member #4558]

I am in AC now and will write up a more detailed report soon.

All in all it has been a bit disappointing and the place hasin, at least in my opinion, deteriorated from the last time I was here about a year and a half ago.

Even the. It was difficult for me to find girls I was attracted to. I only find about roughly 5%. Now you have to compete with hem with swarms of Koreans. They were here before but it seems like their number has increased 10 fold.

And it is my impression that they have had a negative effect on the bar culture as well. Girls seem less accomodating and more into hustling and caging for drinks. At least the top lookers I am trying to get.

In any case this is just MHO. Take it or leave it.

I don't think I will be coming back. I am still interested in PI girls but I think Manila / Makati and the internet scene are better options for me than AC.

Not directed at you but in general and as an observation / possible explanation you didn't had a blast, if you were a stunner, wouldn't you try avoid being fucked when you know you can easily make same money or more without spreading legs? I am sure most of the beauties crowd in AC and in other similar places have a few suckers Wing them moneys anyways already. Doing sidekicks (before / after shift) without involving the bar seems to be more and more popular and they can keep it all to themselves (the money and the fact they meet people outside the bar). For the stunners I would also assume they are in control these days and not the mamas or the bar owners as trafficking laws are harsh if it comes to the wrong peoples attention?? The top stunners will more or less act like some sort of promotion girls giving the bar a good rep at first sight. I think also these girls can shift bars and even some are being head hunted from bar to nar with better offers. With me and my zero experience in AC and bars and BG's in general, its only common sense me thinks. And maybe they jump on a K every know and then for an easy and swift fix (not to much work for a prostitute, at least so I hear). Another reason the top stunners are rare these days I would also think are due to dating-sites, apps and / or they want to work on their own (they are in total control). We also have some thunderstruck people willing to pick them and K1 them to the states fast and furious without any prenup (small head does all the thinking). I think we all can agree that most of the girls, given the chance, even if they actually enjoy sex, would like to have it with someone they actually like and not someone they have to pretend to like. No pun intended.

[Uncle Volodya]

I am in AC now and will write up a more detailed report soon.

All in all it has been a bit disappointing and the place hasin, at least in my opinion, deteriorated from the last time I was here about a year and a half ago.

Even the. It was difficult for me to find girls I was attracted to. I only find about roughly 5%. Now you have to compete with hem with swarms of Koreans. They were here before but it seems like their number has increased 10 fold.

And it is my impression that they have had a negative effect on the bar culture as well. Girls seem less accomodating and more into hustling and caging for drinks. At least the top lookers I am trying to get.

In any case this is just MHO. Take it or leave it.

I don't think I will be coming back. I am still interested in PI girls but I think Manila / Makati and the internet scene are better options for me than AC.

[Dg8787]

I don't like to make it personal, but, I find a certain contributor here incessantly anoying. Every time I see his posts all I can do is sigh. This person seems to have almost an obsession in trying to get his views and points across, even though they are always the same. He is becoming like a nagging wife. For a guy who claims to be widely travelled and resides in Thailand he has only a handful of posts dealing with that wonderful country. The rest is solely Angeles City. What is the deal with that. Explain yourself. Why don't you share some of your wisdom and knowledge on other threads. You are way too generous here.

Have to agree with you. Negative Shit has nothing to do with AC reality for me.