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  1. #332
    Quote Originally Posted by SoapySmith  [View Original Post]
    If you take the time to read Shining Wit's post from September 9, you will see why the posts from Hutsori and Freezone are relevant here. Or perhaps you think finding p4p pussy is a context-free sport.
    I am fine with the P4 P pussy price mechanism.

    The price for RP P4 P is less than the cost of a taxi from home to the airport. I don't control it and don't spend my waking hours thinking about it.

    So, I now know that I will need to be prepared for engaging with the P4 P girls in Subic with economics and intelligence instead of just peso.

  2. #331
    Quote Originally Posted by BrainDrain  [View Original Post]
    Is this the CBS Business Channel? Or the mungers' thread for find sexy filipina in Olongopo?
    Both.

    As pointed out by others, they are interrelated. The health of a major business / industry in the immediate areas of Olongapo or Subic makes an impact on the overall health of the local areas. Many locals are employed there. This effect trickles down as spending by locals and foreign workers will be less. This creates a downturn (big or small) for everyone eventually. --meaning it could potentially affect the bars and some of the bars are not doing too well to begin with. On my last visit, many bars had only 1-2 customers on any given visit.

    Also, with more unemployment, the crime factor will usually increase so the safe walk you enjoy may no longer be.

    Cheers.

  3. #330
    Quote Originally Posted by BrainDrain  [View Original Post]
    Is this the CBS Business Channel? Or the mungers' thread for find sexy filipina in Olongopo?
    If you take the time to read Shining Wit's post from September 9, you will see why the posts from Hutsori and Freezone are relevant here. Or perhaps you think finding p4p pussy is a context-free sport.

  4. #329
    Is this the CBS Business Channel? Or the mungers' thread for find sexy filipina in Olongopo?

  5. #328
    Quote Originally Posted by Freezone  [View Original Post]
    I'm no expert, but from what I've read in another article, the Subic division is totally independant so their finances are (suppose to be) separate as they are run like a totally different company. But only time will tell if this will be totally true. But for now, they are safe from the chopping block.
    I will point out that Korean Airlines (KAL), which is part of the Hanjin Group, bought a 15.4% stake in Hanjin Shipping in 2013 and another 17.8% stake in 2014; both these purchases occurred at a time when the shipping arm was losing money, which started in 2008. KAL has been posting losses for the past two years, meanwhile its pilots have been demanding higher wages, and they expect them because Chinese airlines pay much more due to shortage in a fast growing market. If you were employed by a struggling company that's linked financially to a failed company, and you think you're underpaid, it would be tempting to move to another airline for better job security and higher wages. If KAL can't retain pilots it has to reduce flights, and the outcome of that it has assets, either owned or leased, not generating any revenue but which still have costs. Hanjin Shipping sold its 21 percent stake in the Tan Cang Cai Mep International Terminal in Vietnam for 23 billion won to Hanjin Transportation, a parcel delivery company under Hanjin Group.

    Though the shipbuilding arm, Hanjin Heavy Industries (HHIC), may be totally independent, it may be owed money by the shipping affiliate, and it certainly isn't independent of the world's oversupply of container ships, which also happen to have a relatively low age. And HHIC itself in is financial trouble, http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...27_203973.html .

  6. #327
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiningWit  [View Original Post]
    There are periodic discussions on these boards as to the effect of world or local events on the demand for mongering in the PI, e g the Davao bombing scaring off potential visitors.

    On a totally unconnected forum, I have come across a discussion about an event that may have an effect on the supply, particularly in the Subic area.

    Hanjin Shipping, one of the major Korean container shipping companies, has fallen into receivership as their bankers are no longer prepared to support them over doubts on the viability of their US $ 5 bn debt. Although it is a separate company within the Hanjin Group, the large shipyard on Subic Bay is owned and operated by Hanjin. I find it highly unlikely that the Shipyard division is not owed money by Shipping, and that, being optimistic, will place pressure on cash flow. Being pessimistic, it won't all be paid.

    In consequence, it is not unrealistic to expect cutbacks in staff at Hanjin Subic, with knock on effects on the local economy, where it appears to be a major employer.

    Do those members with more knowledge than me believe that this may cause a transfer of girls from locally focused bars to Western, due to a fall off in demand, together with in increase in supply of local girls due to there no longer being a family rice-winner?
    I'm no expert, but from what I've read in another article, the Subic division is totally independant so their finances are (suppose to be) separate as they are run like a totally different company. But only time will tell if this will be totally true. But for now, they are safe from the chopping block.

  7. #326
    It's always unclear how certain economic changes could affect us. Thanks for the post.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShiningWit  [View Original Post]
    There are periodic discussions on these boards as to the effect of world or local events on the demand for mongering in the PI, e g the Davao bombing scaring off potential visitors.

    On a totally unconnected forum, I have come across a discussion about an event that may have an effect on the supply, particularly in the Subic area.

    Hanjin Shipping, one of the major Korean container shipping companies, has fallen into receivership as their bankers are no longer prepared to support them over doubts on the viability of their US $ 5 bn debt. Although it is a separate company within the Hanjin Group, the large shipyard on Subic Bay is owned and operated by Hanjin. I find it highly unlikely that the Shipyard division is not owed money by Shipping, and that, being optimistic, will place pressure on cash flow. Being pessimistic, it won't all be paid.

    In consequence, it is not unrealistic to expect cutbacks in staff at Hanjin Subic, with knock on effects on the local economy, where it appears to be a major employer.

    Do those members with more knowledge than me believe that this may cause a transfer of girls from locally focused bars to Western, due to a fall off in demand, together with in increase in supply of local girls due to there no longer being a family rice-winner?

  8. #325
    Are you speaking about yourself? I would hope so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Amavida  [View Original Post]
    Ok some folks are unclear: SNIP SNIP

  9. #324
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggusdickus  [View Original Post]
    Would you mind to give some more details about where to find those places? I've only been to one bar on brill street, where the blue jeepneys arrive, and to some places on Magsaysay drive. But Rizal? Probably Rizal avenue extension, not Rizal avenue or even Rizal highway? Would be grateful for some more info!

    Thanks!
    Ok some folks are unclear:

    The fun happens on Magsaysay Drive. At the big round about on Rizals extension Rd go down Magsaysay. This takes you to the Magsaysay bridge. Just before the bridge there is a large SM City Mall (and jeep terminal). Across the road is Goldilocks. Walking back up Magsaysay (the direction you came from) on the Goldilocks side a couple of blocks are (were?) a couple of shop front bars. Easily missed in the day time, from sunset lights are on and girls sit on plastic chairs touting for you to come in. Westerners are not out of place. These are not go-go bars, just simple shop fronts where you drink and chat prior to EWR. If you require a place to shag there are one or two Filipino style hotels just across on the other side of the street that rent by the hour or overnight. Clean and simple. If you feel adventurous there are quite busy Filipino karaoke bars on Gordon Ave (runs beside SM City). These look grubby and risky.

    Cheaper than AC prices.

  10. #323
    Quote Originally Posted by Biggusdickus  [View Original Post]
    Would you mind to give some more details about where to find those places? I've only been to one bar on brill street, where the blue jeepneys arrive, and to some places on Magsaysay drive. But Rizal? Probably Rizal avenue extension, not Rizal avenue or even Rizal highway? Would be grateful for some more info!

    Thanks!
    On the Goldilocks (Hospital) side of the street a bit further back up the road away from the mall and bridge.

  11. #322
    Quote Originally Posted by ShiningWit  [View Original Post]
    There are periodic discussions on these boards as to the effect of world or local events on the demand for mongering in the PI, e g the Davao bombing scaring off potential visitors.

    On a totally unconnected forum, I have come across a discussion about an event that may have an effect on the supply, particularly in the Subic area.

    Hanjin Shipping, one of the major Korean container shipping companies, has fallen into receivership as their bankers are no longer prepared to support them over doubts on the viability of their US $ 5 bn debt. Although it is a separate company within the Hanjin Group, the large shipyard on Subic Bay is owned and operated by Hanjin. I find it highly unlikely that the Shipyard division is not owed money by Shipping, and that, being optimistic, will place pressure on cash flow. Being pessimistic, it won't all be paid.

    In consequence, it is not unrealistic to expect cutbacks in staff at Hanjin Subic, with knock on effects on the local economy, where it appears to be a major employer.

    Do those members with more knowledge than me believe that this may cause a transfer of girls from locally focused bars to Western, due to a fall off in demand, together with in increase in supply of local girls due to there no longer being a family rice-winner?
    You may have out witted yourself this time. Of course this will take an intense survey and study to figure this out. Possibly if we place GPS ankle bracelets on the girls in question we can get real time answers.

    Will this create an over abundant supply and crater the prices? Am I willing to buy short on the Phil Poon Exchange? Will the BF drop below 1 k?

    I doubt any of the above will happen. Besides it is only pesos!

  12. #321

    Supply and demand

    There are periodic discussions on these boards as to the effect of world or local events on the demand for mongering in the PI, e g the Davao bombing scaring off potential visitors.

    On a totally unconnected forum, I have come across a discussion about an event that may have an effect on the supply, particularly in the Subic area.

    Hanjin Shipping, one of the major Korean container shipping companies, has fallen into receivership as their bankers are no longer prepared to support them over doubts on the viability of their US $ 5 bn debt. Although it is a separate company within the Hanjin Group, the large shipyard on Subic Bay is owned and operated by Hanjin. I find it highly unlikely that the Shipyard division is not owed money by Shipping, and that, being optimistic, will place pressure on cash flow. Being pessimistic, it won't all be paid.

    In consequence, it is not unrealistic to expect cutbacks in staff at Hanjin Subic, with knock on effects on the local economy, where it appears to be a major employer.

    Do those members with more knowledge than me believe that this may cause a transfer of girls from locally focused bars to Western, due to a fall off in demand, together with in increase in supply of local girls due to there no longer being a family rice-winner?

  13. #320
    Quote Originally Posted by Noruego  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys,

    Score bar still take 1500 for LT, if you want only ST 1000 should not be a problem.

    Can I ask you guys how much you will give in tip to the girl, ST or LT?

    I think tip is already included but you know.
    In the Subic bay area I usually tip between 200 and 500 in addition to a barfine of 1500. When I give 200 then I feel a little bit shabby. With 300 both the girl and me are perfectly fine. And 500 are given for exceptional LT service.

  14. #319
    Hi guys,

    Score bar still take 1500 for LT, if you want only ST 1000 should not be a problem.

    Can I ask you guys how much you will give in tip to the girl, ST or LT?

    I think tip is already included but you know.

  15. #318
    Quote Originally Posted by Amavida  [View Original Post]
    From a mongering point of view the Barrio & Olongapo Bars are distinct. Olongapo bars are like Olongapo itself mainly for the locals. Thats not to say they are repulsive. There's a couple of places on Rizal where you can find a very cute & obliging GF for the night. (...)

    AV.
    Would you mind to give some more details about where to find those places? I've only been to one bar on brill street, where the blue jeepneys arrive, and to some places on Magsaysay drive. But Rizal? Probably Rizal avenue extension, not Rizal avenue or even Rizal highway? Would be grateful for some more info!

    Thanks!

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