Angeles City

[X Man]

This is probably good advice for someone on a once in a blue moon trip. Another strategy is to pop into the bar and make a complaint. But do so with a smile and without any unnecessary confrontation.

SNIP….

Despite all of this you might have a runner, girl who goes after one pop making various reasons despite agreeing to all you have asked her before paying the barfine. Don't waste your time over it. Has happened to most of us. Just move on and enjoy the rest of the trip.

[Shining Wit]

Dear guys,

I am planning to have 3 days business in Manila plus evening P*s*y venture along LAC, Robinsson Malls, G-Point and Burgos club. This will be Wednesday to Friday.

MD.

All I would suggest is that you stay somewhere convenient for your business meetings. Traffic can be horrendous in Manila at any time, but especially in peak times. Friday starts early (Poets day. Push off early tomorrow's Saturday). Makate and Ermita are 45 minutes by taxi on a good day, so bear in mind that girls might not be too keen to travel and then spend time returning. G Point and LAC are freelancer bars, and I suspect LAC draws 'weekend warriors' who spend their entire time there unless they get taken out, so might not want to spend time / money returning from Makati.

[SaltyPete]

Try to find the hotel's own website. Sometimes they are cheaper. Some websites. Though not Expedia as far as I know. Will raise the price to make you panic buy if you visit with the same / similar search in a short space of time.

LA Cafe, Robinsons freelancers would be your cheapest probably, 1500-3000.

EDSA EC is somewhere in the range of 2500-4000 including bar fine I think.

FL168 something like 2500-3000 for the use of the room and one girl.

Burgos / Makati freelancer 3000.

Burgos / Makati bargirl including barfine 5000-8000 (add more for drinks).

I may be horribly wrong on the latter prices and I would appreciate some corrections. As ever, most things are negotiable and depend on age, beauty, and bargaining skills.

Angeles 2000-3000 including barfine and girl. Perimeter cheaper than Fields.

Given the choice, money, and stamina I'd stay longer in Angeles. Some of those bars have wall to wall ladies in bikinis, often in a good mood. I've also been taken to the mega strip clubs in Quezon City and was bored witless.

This is a great list, Simmer! I'd like to correct the prices at EDSA, though. Php1950 is paid to the bar and the girl charges 2000-2500ST, 3500-4000 LT. So yeah, it is not the cheapest option. But for me, it is the best.

[IllusionHeart]

Now, may be a little part that I need to be updated here, the present Bar fine in AC Bar girls are between 1200 to 2000 pesos or higher? How this work? Pay upfront before taking out the girl or pay after the deeds next morning when she going to leave? I also read here that some one start their pick at noon time? I think those will be for ST? as it is impossible for the girls to be with you that long period?

Thanks!

MD.

MD, bar fines on perimeter bar range from 1200 to 1800, I have usually paid around 1500 p. It is paid upfront at the bar. The normal stay time for the girls will range between 9 pm to 12 pm when they leave. This is something to be discussed upfront with the girl before you decide to pay the BF. If you establish a good connection with the girl then she might stay till next day morning / afternoon. Do discuss this and all your requirements in advance with the mamasan / girl.

Barfine for girls from Fields Avenue will be approx 3000 p. This is also to be paid upfront unless you have some magical charm and girl decides to take it later from you. Never happened with me, always have paid upfront. I have had girls stay till next day afternoon and some who woke me up at 8 am asking for tip as they wanted to leave. You do need to discuss your requirements in advance.

Despite all of this you might have a runner, girl who goes after one pop making various reasons despite agreeing to all you have asked her before paying the barfine. Don't waste your time over it. Has happened to most of us. Just move on and enjoy the rest of the trip.

[BaboyDave]

Dear guys,

Those have been a very informative for me, specially I am in the middle of planning my forthcoming visit to the Filipina P**sy world.

I am planning to have 3 days business in Manila plus evening P*s*y venture along LAC, Robinsson Malls, G-Point and Burgos club. This will be Wednesday to Friday.

On Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday will be my venture in AC, questions, is Saturday a peak time with lot of customers that may lessen our chance for a great pick? How about Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, will those be the period of mostly resting day of those girls (due to less customers)? Huh, I wonder if that will be the case and which means I have to avoid going AC during those days of the week?.

MD,

Your excitement is quite charming however you really need to start reading this thread and maybe run some google searches, they will take you a long way.

In a nutshell, however, Angeles has action every day of the week, obviously weekends are a bit busier, but it is still packed with ladies all around.

Barfines are fines paid to the bar, so you pay the bar for the privilege of taking the girl with you before leaving, in Angeles girls do not expect extra tipping, but if the service is good giving something extra is at your discretion.

Prices will go as low as 1,500 in afternoon bars on perimeter, most girls at night in walking street will go for 2,500 to 3,000.

Enjoy,

D

[Macho Dik]

Dear guys,

Those have been a very informative for me, specially I am in the middle of planning my forthcoming visit to the Filipina P**sy world.

I am planning to have 3 days business in Manila plus evening P*s*y venture along LAC, Robinsson Malls, G-Point and Burgos club. This will be Wednesday to Friday.

On Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday will be my venture in AC, questions, is Saturday a peak time with lot of customers that may lessen our chance for a great pick? How about Sunday, Monday and Tuesday, will those be the period of mostly resting day of those girls (due to less customers)? Huh, I wonder if that will be the case and which means I have to avoid going AC during those days of the week?

Now, may be a little part that I need to be updated here, the present Bar fine in AC Bar girls are between 1200 to 2000 pesos or higher? How this work? Pay upfront before taking out the girl or pay after the deeds next morning when she going to leave? I also read here that some one start their pick at noon time? I think those will be for ST? as it is impossible for the girls to be with you that long period?

Thanks!

MD.

[Shining Wit]

Another option I've tried on 2 occasions is the Southern Cross bus. I've taken it in both directions, most recently from the Wild Orchid in Barrio Barretto (Subic Bay / Olongapo) to Manila. The big advantage over Victory Liner is convenience; from Manila, it departs from the Southern Cross hotel in Ermita and is express to AC, where it arrives at the Orchid Inn. The same bus leaves the following morning for BB, where it arrives at the Wild Orchid.

This is a much more convenient solution from BB to Manila than Victory since it eliminates the need for an additional trike / taxi to Olongapo city, which is where Victory Liner service begins. The bus goes between Manila, AC & BB with no additional scheduled stops, though it may drop or pick up a few passengers along the way.

The only issue with Southern Cross is scheduling; only one bus daily between Ermita and AC, departing at 3:30 pm, and from AC to Ermita, at 3:45 pm.

Agree that Southern Cross would be more convenient to / from AC, as it avoids connecting between hotels and bus terminals, possibly at both ends. Personally, I would find departure times means a lot of hanging about doing nothing waiting. Also the AC to Manila run looks like it arrives after 5 pm, which is hardly ideal in Manila. Obviously, different strokes for different folks.

I don't follow your convenience argument about BB, though. As you say, SC requires an overnight in AC, against the possible advantage of delivery to your hotel on Baloy Beach. VL to Iba and / or Santa Cruz pass through Olongapo and the National Highway through BB. Depending how busy / on the ball the conductor is, they will stop virtually opposite your hotel on NH. Advertised frequency from Sampaloc on my last trip in April was at 10 am, noon and 2 pm (the times that interested me, they increase to hourly later in the afternoon), although reality can be different. The return can be more problematic, as identifying the bus as VL, reading the destination board and flagging it down is not the easiest. A trike or jeepney to Olongapo is not going to break the bank.

[Erasmus B Dragin]

Another option I've tried on 2 occasions is the Southern Cross bus. I've taken it in both directions, most recently from the Wild Orchid in Barrio Barretto (Subic Bay / Olongapo) to Manila. The big advantage over Victory Liner is convenience; from Manila, it departs from the Southern Cross hotel in Ermita and is express to AC, where it arrives at the Orchid Inn. The same bus leaves the following morning for BB, where it arrives at the Wild Orchid.

This is a much more convenient solution from BB to Manila than Victory since it eliminates the need for an additional trike / taxi to Olongapo city, which is where Victory Liner service begins. The bus goes between Manila, AC & BB with no additional scheduled stops, though it may drop or pick up a few passengers along the way.

The only issue with Southern Cross is scheduling; only one bus daily between Ermita and AC, departing at 3:30 pm, and from AC to Ermita, at 3:45 pm.

Sorry, Mr E, but the standard advice on using Victory Liner from Pasay is not necessarily the best. I use Victory Liner to Subic from my hotel in Ermita. I generally use Sampaloc (Earnshaw) terminal, although Caloocan may be a better bet with greater frequency to Dau (Angeles). Pasay is south of Ermita, with the other two to the north, so going there will mean covering the same ground twice. Something to remember is that the ticket office (where I have found that you do pay) writes the bus fleet number in the ticket, so that is what to look out for. So MD doesn't get too hopeful, I get the impression that they allocate seats to single travellers so the same sex sit next to each other. 3 hours at lunchtime should be reasonable to get to Dau from the hotel.

I find it a fun way of travel, although whether you get the 'in flight' movie may be a matter of luck.

Happy hunting.

[Sammon]

Thanks Shinning Wit.

This is another informative advise, will consider on the terminal to take for Dau.

As I have few days business to look after in Manila and I think after my business there been done, then I can spent the rest of my time in Angeles city, do you think this is an intelligent way? Not sure what I can get in Angeles as compare to Manila, never been there, so with mix feeling. Base on what I read here, Many Korean around there that is the first choice of the girls there, I don't. Why? The money they pay? The look? Or the size of their "C**K"? I hope to avoid those bars that only cather to K, as I don't. Want to waste of my mongering time there. Finding gems in AC? I wonder if I will be fortunate enough. Still planning this trip as I am excited to meet and taste Filipina Pus*why soon.

More info and advises will certainly a big help. Thanks!

Cheers,

MD.

If you are staying in Ermita best way to go to Angeles City is by Swagman fly the bus. Cost 600 pesos. You can do a search online for the timings. I usually take 11.30 AM and arrive at my hotel in Angeles by 2 pm or earlier. Going by public buses may save you couple of hundred pesos but not really worth it. Swagman bus is safe, secure and they drop you off at your hotel along with your luggage.

As to advice regarding best bars, girls etc there is no hard and fast rules. Your experience may vary from others. Read through all the posts to get a general idea.

Generally with hundreds of girls to choose from you will have no problem finding one to your liking irrespective of competition from any other ethnic group or their spending habits. Always money talks with bar girls.

[Macho Dik]

Sorry, Mr E, but the standard advice on using Victory Liner from Pasay is not necessarily the best. I use Victory Liner to Subic from my hotel in Ermita. I generally use Sampaloc (Earnshaw) terminal, although Caloocan may be a better bet with greater frequency to Dau (Angeles). Pasay is south of Ermita, with the other two to the north, so going there will mean covering the same ground twice. Something to remember is that the ticket office (where I have found that you do pay) writes the bus fleet number in the ticket, so that is what to look out for. So MD doesn't get too hopeful, I get the impression that they allocate seats to single travellers so the same sex sit next to each other. 3 hours at lunchtime should be reasonable to get to Dau from the hotel.

I find it a fun way of travel, although whether you get the 'in flight' movie may be a matter of luck.

Happy hunting.

Thanks Shinning Wit.

This is another informative advise, will consider on the terminal to take for Dau.

As I have few days business to look after in Manila and I think after my business there been done, then I can spent the rest of my time in Angeles city, do you think this is an intelligent way? Not sure what I can get in Angeles as compare to Manila, never been there, so with mix feeling. Base on what I read here, Many Korean around there that is the first choice of the girls there, I don't. Why? The money they pay? The look? Or the size of their "C**K"? I hope to avoid those bars that only cather to K, as I don't. Want to waste of my mongering time there. Finding gems in AC? I wonder if I will be fortunate enough. Still planning this trip as I am excited to meet and taste Filipina Pus*why soon.

More info and advises will certainly a big help. Thanks!

Cheers,

MD.

[Shining Wit]

There are more bars on Fields, but that is not a worry. You can either walk or take a trike to the Perimeter bars.

As far as bus companies, I prefer Victory Liner. It is located in the Pasay (pronounced pa-sai) area of Manila. Just hop in a taxi in front of your hotel and say Victory Liner Pasay. The taxi should not be more than 150 pesos. Then when you get to the bus station go to the window and tell them you want the bus to Dau (pronounced the-oo). More than likely they will point to the bus that is going and you will pay for your ticket after you are in the bus. I think it is 140 pesos. Then when you get to the Dau station you take a trike to your Angeles City hotel 5 minutes away for 80 pesos.

Sorry, Mr E, but the standard advice on using Victory Liner from Pasay is not necessarily the best. I use Victory Liner to Subic from my hotel in Ermita. I generally use Sampaloc (Earnshaw) terminal, although Caloocan may be a better bet with greater frequency to Dau (Angeles). Pasay is south of Ermita, with the other two to the north, so going there will mean covering the same ground twice. Something to remember is that the ticket office (where I have found that you do pay) writes the bus fleet number in the ticket, so that is what to look out for. So MD doesn't get too hopeful, I get the impression that they allocate seats to single travellers so the same sex sit next to each other. 3 hours at lunchtime should be reasonable to get to Dau from the hotel.

I find it a fun way of travel, although whether you get the 'in flight' movie may be a matter of luck.

Happy hunting.

[Macho Dik]

There are more bars on Fields, but that is not a worry. You can either walk or take a trike to the Perimeter bars.

As far as bus companies, I prefer Victory Liner. It is located in the Pasay (pronounced pa-sai) area of Manila. Just hop in a taxi in front of your hotel and say Victory Liner Pasay. The taxi should not be more than 150 pesos. Then when you get to the bus station go to the window and tell them you want the bus to Dau (pronounced the-oo). More than likely they will point to the bus that is going and you will pay for your ticket after you are in the bus. I think it is 140 pesos. Then when you get to the Dau station you take a trike to your Angeles City hotel 5 minutes away for 80 pesos.

This is indeed a very big help. Never thought that the bus station is quite near to my hotel in ermita.

I will save more money by taking the bus rather than by a private car. Hope the way to Dau is not long and traffic. My plan is checking out my ermita hotel before noon time or right after lunch so that by the time I reached AC may be it is about time to start my search. Hope to avoid any K bar. By the way I have seen bar fine ranges from 1200-2000? Is this to paid directly to the bar I guess? Will it be since it is prepaid, the talent then may try to provide bad service or change from LT to ST later blah blah blah? I am a bit worried as unlike in Bangkok, I only pay bar fine to bring the girl out and pay the girl the next day after the deeds. May be avoid some I reputable bar with bad customers comment?

Cheers,

MD.

[Mr Enternational]

Lewis grand hotel seems to be nice in their webpage. I wonder, there is more bars around perimeter road or on the other end (field avenue)?

I Remeber there is a bus company by the name of Philipines Rabbit that serve between Manila and Angeles? Or is there any much better transports to drive me from my hotel in ermita to Angeles city?

There are more bars on Fields, but that is not a worry. You can either walk or take a trike to the Perimeter bars.

As far as bus companies, I prefer Victory Liner. It is located in the Pasay (pronounced pa-sai) area of Manila. Just hop in a taxi in front of your hotel and say Victory Liner Pasay. The taxi should not be more than 150 pesos. Then when you get to the bus station go to the window and tell them you want the bus to Dau (pronounced the-oo). More than likely they will point to the bus that is going and you will pay for your ticket after you are in the bus. I think it is 140 pesos. Then when you get to the Dau station you take a trike to your Angeles City hotel 5 minutes away for 80 pesos.

[Member #4698]

I am planning my forthcoming trip to the Philippines, and I am getting some confusion as to how I am going to make use of my limited time there. At first I want to stay 3 nights in Manila hitting Ermita / Malate and then Burgos area, likely staying at new world manila bay hotel, plan to visit for sure LA cafe and get freelance in Robison's mall, then have another 1 or 2 nights searching for talent at one of the Burgos bar.

On the other hand, I also wanting to visit AC, plan to stay 2 nights there, may be staying in Lewis grand Hotel. I initially want to choose ABC but the price is way too high for my limited budget but I think ABC is located right at the heart of the mongering site while Lewis is on the far end, right? I am also confuse between Field avenue and Perimeter road, been reading all the posting here but the more I read the more confusion I got. I wonder which part I have to avoided for those bar only cathering for K clientele only? try to avoid hit and miss due to my limited stay there.

Anyone wish to give me an advise, will Manila be worth to spend 3 nights and AC for 2 nights? Or should I do the other way around. I understand Manila specially Burgos is more pricely than compare to AC, in the portion of BF etc? but I don't. know which is more fan between Manila and AC?

Md.

MD, who can say which area you will like more? Some like Makati, some like Malate, while others like AC better. Eventually you should check out all 3 areas and decide for yourself. My advice for you this trip is don't try to do everything because you can't. 5 nights is not a lot of time. You should concentrate on one area or at the most two. Makati would be my 1st choice followed by AC for a well rounded trip, but your budget is a very deciding important factor. Burgos Bars are expensive yes, but on the other hand, the girls are great and there is very little BS. They all want you to barfine them and service and attitude is usually very good. Period. MBC in Ermita / Malate is cheap, but quality is sparse although the girls are friendly. The Havana Cafe pickup scene in Greenbelt Mall (Makati) and Burgos Street massage girls are roughly of the same or slightly better quality as MBC FL's and are available with similar pricing.

AC is altogether another story. There are a ton of bars, large and small with girls of varying quality. Prices start better than Burgos, but the popular (better looking?) girls in certain bars do not come cheap. Top top price is 4500p. You can easily spend a week here with a different girl each night. The Lewis Grand is 2 blocks further down the road from ABC. It is walkable to Fields, but they also provide a Hotel Limo for free transport (so does ABC) to anywhere on Fields / Perimeter Road and SM mall. Tuk Tuks back to your hotel when in the company of your girl (s) is the preferred mode of transport although some of my girls enjoy walking back, stopping off for food or a drink along the the way. Aside from the price advantage over ABC, the Lewis has a real pleasant swimming pool which is a nice place to cool off during the hot afternoons and a great place to recreate with your girls later at night. It never closes.

So whatever you decide, I think you will have a great time spending A) 5 nights in Makati or B) flip a coin and do 2 or 3 nights in Makati and the corresponding balance of time in AC, or C) 5 nights in AC. I know that once you have sampled Filipinas you will be back for a 2nd, 3rd, .. 200th trip, Ha Ha, so don't over think it. Select a course of action, don't look back, and the rest will take care of itself.

[Simmer]

I need to booked my hotel earlier in Expedia as I have seen some hotel like ABC has price highier than last week checking.

Try to find the hotel's own website. Sometimes they are cheaper. Some websites. Though not Expedia as far as I know. Will raise the price to make you panic buy if you visit with the same / similar search in a short space of time.

Anyone wish to give me an advise, will Manila be worth to spend 3 nights and AC for 2 nights? Or should I do the other way around. I understand Manila specially Burgos is more pricely than compare to AC, in the portion of BF etc? but I don't. know which is more fan between Manila and AC?

LA Cafe, Robinsons freelancers would be your cheapest probably, 1500-3000.

EDSA EC is somewhere in the range of 2500-4000 including bar fine I think.

FL168 something like 2500-3000 for the use of the room and one girl.

Burgos / Makati freelancer 3000.

Burgos / Makati bargirl including barfine 5000-8000 (add more for drinks).

I may be horribly wrong on the latter prices and I would appreciate some corrections. As ever, most things are negotiable and depend on age, beauty, and bargaining skills.

Angeles 2000-3000 including barfine and girl. Perimeter cheaper than Fields.

Given the choice, money, and stamina I'd stay longer in Angeles. Some of those bars have wall to wall ladies in bikinis, often in a good mood. I've also been taken to the mega strip clubs in Quezon City and was bored witless.