SubCmdr's UTR's, Non-Pros (NP), and Sugar Babies (SB)

[Frannie]

Low tech is high tech when you have no tech. And it's always the thought behind the gift that counts much more than the gift!

I don't know if you still can, but as recently as a few months ago you could buy the Lumia 640 Windows phone in Best Buy for $29.99 and that is a phone with 5-inch display, 4 G LTE connectivity and an 8-megapixel camera and a micro SD card slot.

[Frannie]

The more hard core girls are will insist on the Samsung and I phones. In truth DR chicas are very geared toward brand names. As in the US the poorest people want the most expensive things. The status of having one of items can not ne appreciated by us first world mongers.

That is why you want to avoid the ones who are asking for an iPhone 7 or similar.

Yes, Dominicans are geared towards brand names, but in many cases it is just because those are the only products they have heard of, which is why they will tend to buy heavily advertised brands like Carnation condensed milk, Colgate toothpaste, Kelloggs cornflakes, and Pampers [CodeWord131] even though there are equivalent cheaper local brands available for half the price. Actually you could also say the same about Americans.

[OldKool]

The more hard core girls are will insist on the Samsung and I phones. In truth DR chicas are very geared toward brand names. As in the US the poorest people want the most expensive things. The status of having one of items can not ne appreciated by us first world mongers.

Low tech is high tech when you have no tech. And it's always the thought behind the gift that counts much more than the gift!

[SubCmdr]

Low tech is high tech when you have no tech. And it's always the thought behind the gift that counts much more than the gift!

If a chica is asking for a newest model iPhone or Galaxy from the get-go, I would take that as a warning sign, because more than likely she would be looking to sell the device on or pawn it. If she just wants a smart phone to use for Whatsapp and Facebook, a much later model phone would do the job. For example you could get an unlocked Apple 5 C phone on Ebay for less than $150 that would meet her needs perfectly well, but if she demurred and insisted she wanted the latest model, I would pass her by to avoid future problems. (You could also get her a perfectly good smart phone of various brands for as little as $30.).

[Frannie]

Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?

It would be unwise to pay out thousands of dollars for her to go to university unless you wanted to make a long term commitment to a relationship with her. After all it is not uncommon even in the US for one spouse to work to pay for the other to go to law school or medical school or something in the hope that the investment will pay off in the long term.

If a chica is asking for a newest model iPhone or Galaxy from the get-go, I would take that as a warning sign, because more than likely she would be looking to sell the device on or pawn it. If she just wants a smart phone to use for Whatsapp and Facebook, a much later model phone would do the job. For example you could get an unlocked Apple 5 C phone on Ebay for less than $150 that would meet her needs perfectly well, but if she demurred and insisted she wanted the latest model, I would pass her by to avoid future problems. (You could also get her a perfectly good smart phone of various brands for as little as $30.).

There are an almost infinite number of different levels of engagement from occasional weekends for recreational sex without commitments to parenting children together, so there are different levels of financial commitment. If you want the former, it is probably best to just be honest with her about what you want and you might be surprised how well it works out, but of course you will not get exclusivity.

If you have not yet met the woman and started a sexual relationship with her, but she seemed promising, you might send a small token down payment or present one time ahead of meeting her, but I would not go overboard on it--kind of like bringing a bunch of flowers to a first date to show sincerity, but cash rather than flowers.

As far as phones and stuff goes, there is a kind of opportunity cost factor in that in major countries like US and Canada you may be able to buy certain items that are very expensive in the DR for much less money in your country, so that the gift has a higher value for her than the cost to you, especially if she does not have a credit or debit card to make overseas purchases (which is the case for most chicas.) Something like a cheap smart phone combined with a Bluetooth speaker to play music would cost a lot more in the DR than what you would pay for it, or you might want to give her your old phone and speaker and get a new one for yourself.

[SubCmdr]

I agree-its sounds like Brazil on a smaller scale.

Many good=hearted non-pros to be had-in Br its Cupid etc. No one has ever asked me for money.

DR seems even more empoverished or maybe somewhere like Cupid in DR is an obvious place to try and connect with better off men in an easy environment.

Even the good-hearted girls need help if they come from nothing so its just a choice whether to get involved knee-deep or just help when it really matters to a degree.

To me theres a difference between wanting school books or an Iphone 7. I don't even have an Iphone 7!loool.

Damn straight Mr. MedDog!

The guys on this board that can't tell or don't know the difference between a hard working young lady with a real job and those that are out there slanging pussy on the streets, bars and "restaurants" every night need to stay out of this part of the game and in their own lane. They need to stop getting twisted up. This part of the game requires judgement and independent thought. If they can't figure that out then they need to stay in the slow lane.

There is a difference between a chica wanting school books or money for their kids birthday party and a iPhone 7 request. A chica who asked me for a iPhone 7 gets cut, immediately! If I run into a situation that has me pondering, then I run it past my "cabinet of wise men" a group of other mongers who's advice experience and judgement I respect.

You have to know what things cost where and how that chica lives. If a chica is telling you they need 200 pesos for her taxi home and then you watch her get on her phone after she leaves and she gets on a moto, you may have reason to expect that her reputation for veracity is incomplete.

I have found that once you help a chica out, if you tell them no on another request it does not cause a problem. They know that if you helped them out before, you may help them out again later. Also you don't need to every provide assistance for more than they can expect from a Dominican male from their own station in life. Of course all of this takes knowledge developed from experience, time and language skills.

Men in the arena are a triple threat. Knock the bottom of it my man!

[Tempoecorto]

Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?

Clearly the answer will depend on how badly you want her, and if you are only meeting people that want Iphone, most likely you are in the wrong neck of the woods. I have bought a iPhone but you want to separate the wheat from the chaff and then use your judgment based on how deep your pocket is and how desirable the object is (and most importantly if your objective is short or long term; Especially if you want to get into rent or medical bills). I have been at this for awhile but I know that I am not a white knight BUT no matter what, one can always treat the person with respect even when the answer is "no", that is where the BFE begins.

[FuckAfMedDig]

Mr. FuckAfMedDig,

The non-pros in the Dominican Republic are lovely and plentiful. There are plenty of beautiful, young, hardworking women here that are not on the streets, or in the bars and "restaurants" slinging pussy for a living every night. This is the blog where we talk about them. You will not have a problem when it comes to age difference my man. The average age difference of my harem is 22.5 years younger than I am.

BFE gets you GFE. If it's true that the Sosua venue is in decline then bringing some language skill to the table and a bit of game will indeed have you cleaning up as I have been for almost the last two years of living here.

Join me. It pays to be a man in the arena!

I agree-its sounds like Brazil on a smaller scale.

Many good=hearted non-pros to be had-in Br its Cupid etc. No one has ever asked me for money.

DR seems even more empoverished or maybe somewhere like Cupid in DR is an obvious place to try and connect with better off men in an easy environment.

Even the good-hearted girls need help if they come from nothing so its just a choice whether to get involved knee-deep or just help when it really matters to a degree.

To me theres a difference between wanting school books or an Iphone 7. I don't even have an Iphone 7!loool.

[FuckAfMedDig]

Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?

Its true but you have to think what she would have done if she hadn't met you?- exactly. Carried on surviving or maybe tried to meet a new guy with "stability".

My one just asked reluctantly for some new shoes and dress for her cousin's graduation.

I haven't met her yet but will in October.

I said "love that's not my responsibility".

If I get down there and all is great and I dig her, I might help her with a few school books-in other words I would go with her to buy them.

Once you start indiscriminately shelling out, it won't stop because she needs and you're the nearest ATM. Even if she likes you.

Same with poor hot girls from Rio and rest of Brazil but in Rio theyre very forward with requests for help.

[Bliadun]

Chica wants / needs newest Iphone or Galaxy? What if she's out of money to pay a rent? Or maybe she needs a few thousand dollars to pay for University? Or what if her mother has a cancer and needs thousands or even dozens of thousands for medical bills?

This is prudent advice. Just also remind your reader that by not "getting involved in her problem solving" E. G. , without giving the BFE, no chance of getting a GFE, as simple as that quid pro quo. Of course, it is fine for many.

[SubCmdr]

The advice to not get involved in their problems is prudent if your desire is simple to get your dick off. Which I might add is a perfectly reasonable goal. As a sexual tourist to the Dominican Republic you will find a plethora of young women here that provide that service at a reasonable price.

But if you are interested in something different, check out the posts by Mr. Oakie and I. We provide plenty of examples of how you can pursue a different type of experience. Men in the arena do not pay attention the the advice or suggestions of critics.

[Frannie]

This is prudent advice. Just also remind your reader that by not "getting involved in her problem solving" E. G. , without giving the BFE, no chance of getting a GFE, as simple as that quid pro quo. Of course, it is fine for many.

Exactly. It is a miracle that older men can fairly easily get the opportunity in the DR to have something that approximates pretty closely to lovemaking with a lithe young under-25. But if that is not your bag, then go for whatever turns you on.

[SubCmdr]

Great report!

I'm very experienced in Rio but new to DR. Have had alot of success off The Cupids. Latinamerican, brasil--in Brazil.

How are the non-pros in DR? Am speaking to a student who also works in a bank.

Are they keen to link with gringos? im pretty Young looking-about 30. Good looking. Speaks portuguese but understands spanish. She's 21 and im youthful 45. Thanks.Is it the norm there like brasil-with age discreptancy male-female and vice versa? best

Mr. FuckAfMedDig,

The non-pros in the Dominican Republic are lovely and plentiful. There are plenty of beautiful, young, hardworking women here that are not on the streets, or in the bars and "restaurants" slinging pussy for a living every night. This is the blog where we talk about them. You will not have a problem when it comes to age difference my man. The average age difference of my harem is 22.5 years younger than I am.

BFE gets you GFE. If it's true that the Sosua venue is in decline then bringing some language skill to the table and a bit of game will indeed have you cleaning up as I have been for almost the last two years of living here.

Join me. It pays to be a man in the arena!

[Tempoecorto]

... and don't get involved in her problem solving.

This is prudent advice. Just also remind your reader that by not "getting involved in her problem solving" E. G. , without giving the BFE, no chance of getting a GFE, as simple as that quid pro quo. Of course, it is fine for many.

[Nordico]

This obviously could be a useful, almost plausible scam line.

If You don't see her you'll never know. Most students even in the first world countries are short of money and a job in a banca de loteria is as good (or bad) as any other job. There are 60000 of them in DR and they are totally legal. Just stay away from WU and don't get involved in her problem solving. As you know, all the Latin women have a long list of problems.