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09-26-16 10:15 #5242
Posts: 2844Facing reality?
Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
Thank you for the detailed and prompt response.
Of course London isn't the place if you want a Mega Brothel with a line up to choose from for s the same rates as in Germany or Spain. If you want that kind of mongering then its Spain or Germany if you don't mind the Lack of diversity which is available in London. Different tastes, different budgets, different preferences, it happens. That's life.
Now you and Myrrh are speaking with the same voice, LOL merged? Do you monger in the same venues in Germany?
As for you being a Londoner?? Not that it makes any difference but in some of your posts.
You said "I am not from London or Manchester, I visit London almost every 2 weeks ".
And here [quote=PayForIt;1939731 You've obviously had successes. But it's just too hit and miss for me though I take your point on being able to converse on UKP to attempt to get some corroborative evidence before you make the choice.
All fine if you live in London or have time to plan a visit. For me, I might only find out on the morning of a visit I'm going. Pretty difficult to then start messaging other members to find out what I want to know[/quote]Londoner or Visitor to London stick to what's available in London and enjoy it whilst it lasts.
Cheers and happy mongering wherever you are.
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09-26-16 09:35 #5241
Posts: 1856Locations / Bangkok in London / brothels.
Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
I'm not really sure if the rickshaws info was meant to suggest that in place of your previous advice that I ask a policeman where brothels are I should now get a pedicab and ask him or her?
Finally thanks for the very lengthy explanation of the definition of central London. I note you have used the tube map and defined central as anywhere within the Circle Line. I'm afraid that's not my assessment of central London but as you say, one size doesn't fit all. Your size (on what is central London) is a lot bigger than mine!
Myrrh got it right in his post. Those of us who like choosing from a LU are spoilt by options in other countries, and in other cities in the UK. Manchester and Milton Keynes to name two. LEA enforcement policies in London just clearly have killed the old fashioned bordello in the very heart of the city. Fair enough. I could of course resort to ringing multiple phone box cards to ask if they have more than one girl. But they will say no to ensure they are legally compliant (I could be a policeman calling!) so it would mean turning up to many such places and refusing to continue if there is no LU.
The snipe about two way street is interesting and I note you've been assessing the history of my posts.....which is fine. You will see the very significant amount of detail I've gone into in the Madrid / Costa del Sol / FKK Artemis / Oase / Sharks / Sakura /World/ Paradise / Mainhattan / Palace /Dresden/Prague/ Dubai / Bangkok threads for the benefit of other members. Identifying locations / directions / facilities and commenting on which girls do and don't give good service. So I give plenty when I can see I might receive some reciprocation. Some of those reports have been designated as Reports of Distinction in some of those threads. The constant references on here to "do your research / legwork" and your final "ask a policeman" speak volumes. You have posted details of some LUs in outer areas of London. Do you ever post information about which girls are good /gave good service/ and those who didn't? As Myrrh says. These appear not to exist in what most people consider to be central London.
I appreciate your efforts but I just have to face reality as Myrrh says. If I want to select a girl from a line up face to face having seen who is on offer, London is not the place. He has accepted it, I can accept it, and you should too. There is no other thread on the whole of ISG I've come across where members are SO defensive about a location. Get over it. London is good for agencies / adult work / LMP and AMPS. It's hopeless for selection from a LU. No problem. It's a shame that a capital city doesn't have this on offer but so be it. And just in case you are wondering.......I'm a Londoner!
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09-25-16 16:48 #5240
Posts: 2844What's on in Milton Keynes?
Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
Hope this saves some people the 30 minutes fast train journey to MK.
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09-25-16 14:17 #5239
Posts: 2844How to find Brothels in Central London.
Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...-a3352091.html
"London rickshaw drivers' links to the sex trade were exposed today, as hundreds of businesses called for an urgent crackdown on their "wild west" actions.
A new investigation has revealed that drivers of pedicabs. Also known as rickshaws. Are being paid tips by prostitutes for taking passengers to brothels for sex. "
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09-25-16 13:07 #5238
Posts: 2844More info on brothels and in Central London
Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
Its the Economy mongers.
That said, of course not everyone is into Brothels with a Line as its more risky and a venture into the less known and would also be a bland experience for me and many other mongers. Is this very difficult for some to appreciate?
One size doesn't all even in mongering.
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09-25-16 12:47 #5237
Posts: 1000Wishing for something that is illegal, the paradox
PFI and others, including myself, would really like line ups so we can see what the woman really looks like and choose someone who is okay. Photo shopped photos online are not good enough and visits to see sole sex workers too risky in terms of potentially wasted time.
I think maybe we are completely spoilt by experiences of working girl friendly countries like Germany, Thailand, Spain and so on and find anything less than what we can get there unacceptable.
Maybe a reality check is in order. The UK is a working girl unfriendly kingdom and that is not going to change in our lifetimes, sadly.
Wishing for line ups, and therefore brothels, is wishing for something which is expressly against the law.
Yes, there are a few massage parlors in Greater London which secretly offer full sex on top of the massage, but they are completely breaking the law. They survive because they operate on the outskirts of London where local councils and police enforcement of the law is patchy. These are dodgy, dingy places which could be closed down immediately at any time and the owners thrown into jail for up to two years or more should the authorities wish to do so.
There are no such places in Central London, at least not operating openly and on a permanent basis. One such place Steam and Sun 'Health club' was closed down 3 years ago and the owner put in jail for 2 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D6_d1BWJBg
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eptionist.html
The paradox is that we need to find out if there are any places like Steam and Sun, where we can choose between a dozen or more girls, however discussing them publicly could lead to them being closed down.
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09-25-16 11:58 #5236
Posts: 2844Re Brothels
Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
I see you're back to the same subject you first started in late August 2012.
(1) Where is Central London on your map??
Here are the links showing Central London https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_London.
The London Plan defines the "Central Activities Zone" policy area, which comprises the City of London, most of Westminster and the inner parts of Camden, Islington, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Southwark, Lambeth and Kensington and Chelsea.
And on Trip Advisor https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTo...n_England.html.
" central London is roughly bounded by the Circle line of the Underground; see the link below.
Tfl. Gov. Uk / assets /.standard-tube-map. Pdf.
"I find Bloomsbury quite central, with excellent bus connections, which I prefer to the Underground although others' views will vary. Plenty of visitors like to book hotels near Victoria station, and there are a great many near Paddington, clustered on and around Sussex Gardens.
But I also like bits of Kensington, the area around Gloucester Road and even drifting towards Earl's Court, ".
Edgware road, Paddington, Kensington and Chelsea where Brothels with a Line Up are to be found are well within Central London.
(2) How to find them? Cards in Phone Boxes in those areas (Same info posted on other UK Sites) ,Or if someone is willing to pass on Info of the locations or Phone numbers as Brothels in these areas don't advertise openly. As to why no one here or on the UK sites is willing to give exact locations? Maybe no one wants to get involved in a set up less tolerated by the police than other places just in case of a Police Raid and questions asked during arrests. There are 3 or 4 threads on Brothels on the other site and there's even one on 24 hours brothels in London. .
I know of about 4 or 5 Brothels in Kensington and Chelsea with a Line up, But I won't pass on any info nor recommend such places to Visitors to London.
You want to find out about them, then you need to do what everyone did before, ie Cards in Phone boxes is the way ti find them.
(3) Venues that advertise openly online and with a Line Up, posted on them before in reply to your question.
http://www.cleopatrassauna.com/ Located here 140 Willesden High Road NW10 2 PJ 0208 8302008.
Aqua Sauna 42 Hornsey Rd, London N7 7 BP.
Libby's Sauna in Stratford. Its such an open secret http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...lympic-stadium.
The 3 venues above with a Line Up are only a matter of about 15 minutes max on the Underground.
Yes you've hit the nail on its head " So Yes. I am getting there. Realising that there is really little point viewing this thread as often as I have previously, or even posting (as I have previously) as it's not a two way street on here[.
With just one post on your massage experience at White Lilly, the one and only report in 4 years and one month, this would hardly make this thread a 2 way street.
Cheers.
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09-25-16 01:00 #5235
Posts: 1856Getting there and its meaning.
Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
I am not the remotest interested in attending an LMP event and sharing ladies with a group of guys at the same time. To each there own. But not for me. So that's no good.
Last time I checked Milton Keynes was not in central London. So that's no good.
As for "you've never had it so good with your request for info on this thread" - that really did give me a giggle. I've posted 20 times that I challenge ANY member of this thread to post details of ONE brothel with a line up in Central London instead of the school headmistress comments telling me to do "research" and now "legwork". I've had not ONE single response of any use whatsoever pointing me to such an establishment. Other of course than you telling me to ask a policeman as they know where they are. Great. If that equates in your book to "never had it so good", I'm afraid our respective assessments of the usefulness of this thread are very different. At least in so far as the sharing of information is concerned, this thread deserves another title I've used to describe mongering in London: hopeless! And others have come on and shared that view.
So Yes. I am getting there. Realising that there is really little point viewing this thread as often as I have previously, or even posting (as I have previously) as it's not a two way street on here.
In the words of the song "Let me take you by the hand and take you to the streets of London". Well. Yes - you did mention doing a LOT of legwork to discover good mongering in London. And that would be true as finding it on ISG is a thankless task. I've leave you merry Londoners to your LMPs, and pouring over websites as you appear very content doing just that rather than having ladies to select from in a good venue.
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09-21-16 22:02 #5234
Posts: 2844You're nearly there.
Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]
If You think you are having a hard time finding a Brothel with a Line Up in London?? Well let me tell you my experience. When I first started using one well known UK site back in 2008. Everyone there was talking about girls from the other site whenever they meant (adultwork.com) and when I asked, what other site? As I was a newbie, they replied "The site that can't speak its name ".
Then I posted a request for info for Sexy Polish girls in London at £70 for 1/2 hour. You'd think that should bring in a flood of info. Again no response whatsoever although prior to that I posted a lot of info there about mongering in Houston, Vegas, NYC, Poland, Japan and other overseas destinations.
My break came when I joined ISG and started reading about LMP Parties. Went there and had great times with some lovely girls. One or 2 EE Girls I met there tipped me about where to look for them in West London. At the same time I first heard about Milton Keynes as most of the LMP girls at the time were working there.
Since then I learned to use different sources to do my research and use a combo of them (horses&courses) as no one was going to hand over the best mongering tips over to me on a plate.
Most important of all is to be flexible in mongering and be prepared to do the Leg Work as well as the usual research. And believe it or not, you've never had it so good with with your request for info on this thread.
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09-21-16 21:26 #5233
Posts: 1856Options / Optificks and law and Order
Originally Posted by Krazydude [View Original Post]
You've obviously had successes. But it's just too hit and miss for me though I take your point on being able to converse on UKP to attempt to get some corroborative evidence before you make the choice. All fine if you live in London or have time to plan a visit. For me, I might only find out on the morning of a visit I'm going. Pretty difficult to then start messaging other members to find out what I want to know. So I am pretty much limited to selection from what I see online. And my success rate on agencies / independents is really quite low.
Just on success rates. I agree with you this leisure activity is far from guaranteed. Yes I love the optificks, indeed I really enjoy the whole pastime of going to a club in Spain, or Germany, or Dubai and being able to select a companion from maybe 50+ girls. I don't just choose based on looks. You can "interview" the girls and build a rapport (or not) about what you are looking for. It would be wrong of me to suggest even this is failsafe. It's not. I've had some poor sessions still. But firstly I'd say they are rare if I've already conducted a proper discussion with the lady, and secondly, even if the chemistry isn't there despite our best efforts, having sex with someone who looks really attractive (because in part of course you only initiate discussions with the ones who hit the spot for you) is still no real chore. AND - you know that you can take a short session knowing full well that you can end it, and go back out to the club to select someone else. In that way you are seriously limiting the risk of an unsuccessful outing. The same applies in the brothels in Manchester, Leeds, Milton Keynes and even in Scotland. If you have a bad session with one girl but saw someone outside who is also sexy, you can move on to another session. Still no guarantee but it helps with the odds! None of that is possible with using independents unless you are willing to say "no thanks on her doorstep" return to your car/cab/tube and start looking, and travelling all over again. What a nightmare!! So whilst it's great if you meet an indie who ticks your boxes, so you are assured of many good sessions, you really are chancing it a bit if you select one on the day, online.
The law in London is no different to that in Manchester. It is how strictly, or not, it is enforced and I get the impression, for whatever reason, that it must be far more strictly enforced in London for the likes of LMP and HoD to be needing to shelter behind the guise of independents. In Manchester for example, the various venues (I think from recent posts we got to 8 of the better known ones) openly advertise in the local press as well as online!! I have NEVER seen a raid at one. I had a moment last year in a brothel in Manchester where the girl jumped off the bed with at towel, told me to wait, and whispered 'police'. Never has my heart raced so much. On went my clothes, quickly, but not as quickly as I lost my rock on boner (!!) which reacted to the word 'police' in the same way as if someone had taken a large mallet to it! Whilst I was thinking of my lines "I thought this was just a massage place" etc. The girl returned, quite relaxed, and then removed here towel to continue the fun. She told me to do likewise. I asked if she'd got it wrong about the police. "No" she said. "They are here but don't worry they are fine....having a beer and might see one of the girls." I didn't believe her completely and told her I needed the bathroom. Whilst sneaking to the toilet I managed to get a look in the lounge and sure enough, two officers were sat with the receptionist having a chat, one with beer in hand. Several customers were sat around and three of the girls (who they hadn't selected). Still in my clothes I asked the receptionist for another beer. One of the officers said Hi and asked if I was having a nice time. I said I was. With some recognition of the danger involved, I asked why they were here. I was told that the police are well aware of the establishments in Manchester and provided they are satisfied that there is no trafficking, no drugs on the premises, a proper liquor licence, no violence, they are happy to allow things to remain as they are. There is one parlour in Manchester where a bouncer kicked a troublesome guy down the stairs and he broke his back. Even after that, it's still open (not the best place!).
So maybe it's just the difference between local police policies but it looks like in London at least, the same line up offerings are not there unless you pick a card from a phone box and hope to get a choice when you arrive. Or head to the area in Jojo's latest post armed with your best knuckle-duster so that whilst trying to build a rapport with a SW you can be ready to engage with the Mike Tyson of Edgeware Road!!
I think it boils down to. Looking for line ups. Head to Manchester Germany or Spain but not London. Looking for indies head to UKP. That doesn't make London "hopeless" for everyone. It makes it pretty poor for me and anyone used to selecting girls from a line up. So be it. I'd have expected that in so little town in mid-Wales, or the Lakes, but certainly not in our wonderful capital city.
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09-21-16 20:38 #5232
Posts: 1856We've gone from asking a policeman to visiting a war zone!
Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
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09-21-16 16:22 #5231
Posts: 2844Police don't scare me.
Originally Posted by Myrrh [View Original Post]Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
Its not the Police that scare the shit out of me, But the activities that goes on in some of the Brothels with a line up such as the ones in the link above, unprotected sex, trafficked and controlled girls, pimps on the premises.
Here's what I meant when I gave the advice about asking a Policeman for directions to Local Brothels. Maybe its much quicker just to drop in and ask the question at the local Police station.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...sex-30-7919660
News UK News Prostitution.
Watch as prostitutes sell sex for £30 at seedy hotel just yards from police station.
21:13, 7 May 2016 updated 21:13, 7 May 2016.
By Nick Dorman.
Foreign escorts provide round-the-clock service at Hartley Hotel across the street from the Met's Forest Gate nick in east London.
Prostitutes are selling sex for as little as £30 at a seedy *hotel opposite a police station.
Foreign escorts provide a round-the-clock service just 20 paces from the front door of the Met 's Forest Gate nick in east London.
Prostitution at the one star Hartley Hotel is so notorious that it is *mentioned by reviewers on the TripAdvisor site – where it is rated as among the capital's worst hotels.
Outside the *hotel a uniformed constable could be seen standing in front of the police *station. A man at reception waved our reporter through when *given the girl's room number."
And there's a lot to be said for mongering very close to a Police station " Another pointed out an advantage of it being near a police *station. He said: "The Hartley Hotel is directly opposite Forest Gate nick! If I run away from a pimp with a machete, I'm only 10 yards from the Old Bill."
All the best and good luck wherever you monger and in some places you, the really need it.
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09-21-16 15:30 #5230
Posts: 2844Line up?
Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
30 Southwick Street, London W2 1 JQ, you. Now you know where to find them Lined up. http://www.londontown.com/LondonStre...reet_a51.html/.
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09-21-16 15:10 #5229
Posts: 2844Originally Posted by Jojosun [View Original Post]
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09-21-16 11:44 #5228
Posts: 2844No need to ask a Policeman
Originally Posted by PayForIt [View Original Post]